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8:22 AM
moderators anyone? would you mind checking the suspicious pattern in a series of 3 downvotes I got 2013-03-18 - 02:34:10, 02:24:23, 02:15:22. Over 24 hours passed, there was no reversal from a script: MSO post suggests going to chat in cases like this
 
8:36 AM
@gnat Nothing suspicious logged. Either the votes are too far apart to be considered an abusive pattern or they are from different people.
@gnat Pinged a community manager. If the downvotes are indeed from the same account, they'll go away, if not, they won't.
 
8:53 AM
@gnat Downvotes seem legit. Embrace and enjoy them ;)
 
@YannisRizos Thanks! I'll take a look at the DVed posts. Down-votes, "...the community's way of telling peers that their content can be improved." :)
 
 
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1:45 PM
Good morning Folks
 
user55340
1:56 PM
'ello.
 
Irony a. def: @gnat complaining about his posts being down voted. ;P
 
user55340
systematic downvoting is an issue. If one person targets gnat for downvotes, then its bad. gnat doesn't exactly target his downvotes to a person.
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I know, still funny
 
I could see a person viewing his profile and clicking on a few interesting answers, then disagreeing with them and giving them downvotes. Looks malicious at first, but it's just his profile page working against him.
 
2:35 PM
@YannisRizos you have to have made these first two up: "1 Search for Wilhelm Fucks, Norman Alcock and Ray Cline (for example)" and if you didn't, someone else did and you bought it
 
@JimmyHoffa I didn't complain, merely checked whether these are worthy of studying DVed posts (most of non-serial DVs I've got so far were pretty useful)
 
user55340
I'm wondering if Vance would appricate a modern html update to his Advanced SCM branching page. I glanced at the html and it was indeed 1998 MS Frontpage generated... fairly clean for MS, but none the less a 15 year old html file.
 
3:30 PM
yeesh frontpage '98, 15 years now... my first job was in frontpage
@YannisRizos I don't know how you can stand politics.SE, just looking around there, at least the united-states tag is a total shit show of biased punditry on both sides. Do you just ignore the united-states tag as it's creepy and pay closer attention to the euro tags?
 
4:03 PM
@JimmyHoffa This. I have no idea about us politics, so half of the time I'm not sure what the questions or answers are about anyway (which is probably a good thing). The two other mods are Americans so they do most of the heavy lifting on us specific questions, I mostly purge long comment threads.
 
Trust me you don't want to know... it's basically a bunch of people yelling at and threatening eachother
 
There was an... interesting comment couple of days ago that suggested wind power causes global warming.
 
@YannisRizos it's totally common for busy intersections in the US to have people standing on the corners holding 6' posterboard prints of dead infants trying to turn people's stomachs to get them to vote anti-abortion. Regardless of one's political stance that's an example of how we approach politics in this country
 
user55340
4:35 PM
@YannisRizos wind power reduces local wind speeds which reduce temperature distributions and can cause local warming. I am not sure how much of an effect this has. The buildings in a city have a much larger effect than a wind farm.
 
user55340
Wherever one harnesses some energy gradient, there are effects to the local environment (be it top of ocean / bottom of ocean temperature, or waves, or tides, or wind, or solar...)
 
@MichaelT but have you seen a solar farm up close? They are just an awesome site :D how can anyone argue with a fan that makes you feel like a liliputian
and the hoover dam, I mean come on. Say it with me: Worlds best sledding destination.
 
user55340
There, cleaned up that query and made it a bit more useful...
 
4:53 PM
@MichaelT perfect, I used your parameters to find highly scored garbage by tuning the scores to find high scores. Though it gave me a result in SO, is it not pointed at P.SE?
 
"Switch sites" at the bottom, to... switch sites.
 
ah Got it
 
Stack Overflow never ceases to amuse. 3 people approved an edit that introduced "Fuck you" to the post.
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Just to be clear, the user doing the edit isn't at fault here, the profanity was in the original version of the post, and there's some concurrent edit awesomeness going on (it was removed and re-introduced, by edits seconds apart, probably unintentionally). Still, the reviewers approved the edit as it appears, which... doesn't make sense.
 
@YannisRizos even human concurrency is error prone, somebody should have put the editors in a monad, then the race condition wouldn't have happened, rather reality would have branched at that point leaving the original state pure.
 
user55340
5:09 PM
@JimmyHoffa I intended it to be customizable for that. I use it with min 0, max 5, length 250 to find marginal ones that should be downvoted to make them deletable. I think some 10k users have poked it with min -5, max -1, length 250 to find deletable ones.
 
user55340
There's also a non-link filtering version. data.stackexchange.com/programmers/query/102768/…
 
@MichaelT I'm finding high voted short answers to just be pictures which are surprisingly verbose and correct answers. Dang.
 
user55340
5:26 PM
I'm trying to think through a "find open questions with more than threshold questions where the median answer length is less than threshold and the median score is less than threshold" - those questions waiting for some person to come along and think they are adding something to it.
 
user55340
I understand the desire - its the same as the one "there is wrong or missing information on a wikipedia page - I need to fix it." However, an old question that looks like a wikipedia page with missing information is likely a bad question to ask in the first place. Not always, but its something that should be found before people make the mistake of trying to add to it.
 
7:01 PM
ankit, Delhi
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^^^ Dont mind if find any stupid Question from me . :)
 
Wow, strings!
 
@JimmyHoffa Right. He's facing "a lot" of problems with string parsing.
 
that's a bummer, darn rascally strings... on the bright side he's parsing so there's a simple monadic solution!
 
@JimmyHoffa He should probably just download a 3rd party parser and call it a day.
 
user55340
 
user55340
7:06 PM
Titled "Bonding" - alt text "I'm trying to build character but Eclipse is really confusing"
 
haha
what is the story with the xkcd dude? he has all kinds of software development comics, but then a bunch of science stuff and at the end of the day he creates a bunch of comics... What does he actually do?
Oh, he's a nasa roboticist. Obviously.
 
 
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psr
8:44 PM
@YannisRizos Inspired me to "pull a Gnat"
 
user55340
@gnat you've been verbed.
 
user55340
@psr which form of gnat have you pulled?
 
psr
@MichaelT - Used up my downvotes for the day.
 
user55340
@psr Have you seen my DE queries to find marginal short answers?
 
@MichaelT didn't you just hear him? He doesn't need your query
 
psr
8:50 PM
@MichaelT - I think might have originally been your query.
 
user55340
I'm still working on the "lots of questions, open, low median answer size, low median rep." query
 
psr
@MichaelT - "Lots of questions"?
 
user55340
Lots of answers...
 
user55340
Trying to find those old subjective questions that attract new users who don't know they are not good questions to answer... and serve as examples to new users of "but this question is still open."
 
psr
Thought so, but lots of questions didn't really fit that idea.
 
user55340
9:02 PM
@psr True. The median tests in there are trying to find where there are many short, low voted answers. These are the ones that are most likely lists of resources. People with a helpful wiki mentality feel the need to make the materials in the answers complete (its a good thing on other web 2.0 sites). On a Q&A site, that is not as helpful.
 
user55340
9:29 PM
Differently disappointing than serial downvoting...
-90 Sep 7 '12 reversal Serial upvoting reversed
 
@WorldEngineer @Dynamic Part III is ready for review!
 
@Morons excellent
many thanks for doing this
 
the Blog chat room has been frozen!
 
again?
kk
 
can you un-freeze it Mr Moderator!
 
9:33 PM
@Morons fixed
 
great! thanks, Mr Moderator!
 
user55340
10:07 PM
DataExplorer knowledgeable people - data.stackexchange.com/programmers/query/102768/… - at the bottom of that result set is a link to "Small C Projects" and my query says its "Open" (or rather, not closed). Yet going to programmers.stackexchange.com/q/62502/40980 shows it is closed. What did I get wrong in the query?
 
@MichaelT have to admit, I have nothing against being verbed that way!
 
@MichaelT did you filter closed to verify that there's no later opened history item? I did a query previously on closed that worked fine; I just checked the question body for closed (or rather someone else did and I horked it) and it worked fine
 
user55340
  CASE WHEN q.closedDate is null
    THEN 'Closed'
    ELSE ''
  END as Closed,
 
user55340
I'm not filtering, I'm just indicating...
 
@MichaelT I was banging my head against a CASE last night
 
10:57 PM
@WorldEngineer at least it wasn't strings
 
@JimmyHoffa I'm currently torturing myself with Joins
 
MSSQL?
 
@JimmyHoffa it's SQL Zoo so it's default to MySQL but I can change the engine
 
Left join: everything from the table in your FROM and only predicate matches from the table in your JOIN clause. Right join: everything from the table in your JOIN clause and only predicate matches from the table in your FROM clause. Inner join: only predicate matches from both
 
and outer is a "not" of inner?
 
psr
11:26 PM
@WorldEngineer - No. Outer join means all the rows of one of the tables are always returned.
 
@psr so left and right are both types of outer
 
Sam
Hi guys. codeproject.com/Articles/33052/… print it out and stick it above your screen.
 
psr
@WorldEngineer - Actually, I spaced that. Left join returns all rows from one table, left outer includes rows from left table that don't match right table. Don't need print out by do need to beware of multitasking.
 
Inner Join = Intersection
Left Join = A union (A intersection B)
Right Join = B union (A intersection B)
Outer Join = A Union B
Left Excluding = A - (A intersection B)
Right Excluding = B - (A intersection B)
Outer Excluding = A Union B - (A intersection B)
 

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