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2:51 AM
@JSBangs Yes, that "thou" question is the answer that keeps on giving, isn't it ;)
 
 
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11:35 AM
Good morning.
 
Das stimmt.
 
Ah, haven't heard that one for a while.
Brings me back.
 
Das stimmt.
 
That's one of my favorite German idioms. Nothing really comes close to the same meaning in English.
 
Auch das wird wohl stimmen.
 
11:39 AM
Genau.
Auch "Das gelingt Sie gleich."
 
Ihnen, I suppose?
 
Vielliecht.
 
I mean, the verb is gelingen? Then it's most certainly dative.
But I'm not sure if you meant a different verb in the first place.
 
Maybe I do. Memory is faulty after several decades of disuse.
 
"You will succeed at it any moment now"?
 
11:43 AM
Yeah, something like "It'll come to you" or "You'll get it."
 
Ah yes. Then gelingen + dative.
 
"You'll catch on."
OK
 
But it's not that common for all I can tell.
 
I heard it a lot in Frankfurt. Maybe it's a localism?
 
People would rather go with "Sie packen es!" or "Das werden Sie schon schaffen!"
@Robusto I dunno. Could be a localism, or a different register, or just a bit dated.
 
11:46 AM
Ooh, dated ... shudder.
Used in the sense of "be patient"?
"Hang on"
 
Yeah.
Reassuring, reconciling, cheering up.
 
Wow, the board is totally dead this morning.
Not a single question worth answering that doesn't have good answers already.
 
The chat is. The main site is as vibrant as ever.
Just checked the stats this morning.
Everything's pointing up.
 
1 min ago, by Robusto
Not a single question worth answering that doesn't have good answers already.
Nothing for me to do.
 
Well, I actually provided a whopping two half-assed answers today.
Can't remember the last time that happened.
Providing answers, that is.
Providing half-assed answers happens all the time.
 
11:51 AM
LOL, I just got my first upvote on a question I answered on SO a solid year ago:
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A: Flex VSlider Reverse direction

RobustoYou can extend the VSlider and add a method that reports the reverse of the slider value. public function getReverseSliderValue() : Number { return Math.abs(this.value - this.maximum) + this.minimum; //Adding minimum is necessary when minimum != 0 }

 
They don't want you to get your Unsung Hero.
 
Check my profile there. I got that a LOOOOONG time ago.
 
But they are too late.
Semi-jinx.
 
First gold badge I got.
 
Anyhow, tell that to them.
 
11:52 AM
If you're not answering C# or Java questions you gain rep by onesies-twosies.
 
"Don't upvote me, you prevent nothing!"
@Robusto I used to live in the CSS and HTML tags.
 
Me too. Plus Javascript and Flex.
Poor relations at SO.
 
My highest-voted answer ever scored 18.
 
What's the site they want UI developers to use?
 
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A: Extracting code from photograph of T-shirt via OCR

RegDwightYou can probably type faster than you can clean up images and install OCR engines: #!/usr/bin/perl (my$d=q[AA GTCAGTTCCT CGCTATGTA ACACACACCA TTTGTGAGT ATGTAACATA CTCGCTGGC TATGTCAGAC AGATTGATC GATCGATAGA ...

@Robusto UI.SE?
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User Interfaceux.stackexchange.com

Beta Q&A site for user interface researchers and experts

Currently in public beta.

 
11:55 AM
Whatever, nobody on there seemed to know anything anyway.
 
The funny thing is, before you ask, no, that's not where your HTML/CSS questions should go, either.
There is still no site for that.
 
Nah, this was a full-fledged out-of-beta site.
 
SO? Off-topic, strictly speaking. Webmasters? Off-topic. UI? Off-topic.
Everyone will just tell you to go to Doctype.
 
Doctype. That was it.
 
Not part of the network.
 
11:57 AM
Ah.
Yeah, it sucked anyway.
 
And it sucks huge balls.
Jinx.
 
/Sigh ... have a coke.
 
I am!
Right now.
 
Prost.
So ... here's your morning translation exercise: 自分で悪いと思うはない?
 
Geez.
I see a nose, a field, two hearts, and some Hiragana.
Oh, and a minute, of course.
 
12:03 PM
Lol.
Jibun de warui to omou wa nai?
 
Well, the nai is obvious.
So are to and wa.
I'm almost there! Hang on just a sec.
Ah! Is that Asia over the first heart?
OMFG, I should use a larger font.
I didn't even recognize the 亜 in that pixel blob.
 
Why not just zoom the page in your browser?
 
I is zoomed in now.
You know, I have no idea if jibun is an "I" or a "you" here. And Wiktionary doesn't help, actually.
And those heart salads, I'd have to look them up, too.
 
Spoken this way, it means "you".
Basically it means "You're full of shit" but is phrased as "Don't you think you're wrong?"
 
Oh. I thought it was something with evil.
Well, at least I got the nai part right.
 
12:16 PM
I always thought it funny that "heart" under "Asia" meant "bad".
While "heart" under "rice paddy" means "think" ...
 
Well, can't that "Asia" also mean "second" or something?
As in, second heart = evil?
I'm probably BSing, but so be it.
 
亜 means "Asia" or "rank next" or "come after".
 
Ah yes. Well, I was close.
 
BRB
Gotta run. TTYL.
 
12:40 PM
good news, everyone! i just got to 10K
/me throws a party
 
1:11 PM
@JSBangs: I bring three linguistically appropriate congratulations from a different continent!
 
the biggest advantage is that now i can do quick tag edits
 
I am glad some people are taking care of tags.
 
i actually checked every single new question since i logged off last night and retagged about half of them
 
Excellent. I might even use the tags to search for questions that interest me, some time.
 
1:27 PM
@JSBangs — Grats & welcome aboard.
 
@JSBangs Yeah, I see you added to mine. I think it's redundant: comparatives are adjectives, right?
 
Wow, I accidentally edited @RedGrittyBrick's answer when I thought I was editing my own. Throwing in an afterthought. D'oh! I need more coffee! Moar!
 
@JPmiaou redundancy, it isn't a problem. plus there are also comparative adverbs
 
I like "throwing in an afterthought" to someone else's thought.
 
1:48 PM
Wait what? JSBangs is partying w/o me? Why does that always have to happen?
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Q: When to correctly use "an" and "a"?

RoflcoptrI always thought that I should use "an" if the next word starts with a vocal. But recently I read the sentence: In order to find a object-oriented system, ... So am I wrong or is this a spelling error?

 
@RegDwight — Uh, how did you get this address, @Reg?
We thought we were having a private party.
 
I am the pwner of this room, that's how.
You have to get a chambre séparée.
 
Wow. We were in the basement and you just barged right in. Didn't even have time to put the hookah away.
 
@RegDwight d00d, ur harshing my mellow
 
Totally.
 
1:51 PM
Mellow is a song by Elton John. Honky Chateau.
Honky Château is the fifth studio album by British singer/songwriter Elton John, released in 1972. In 2003, the album was ranked number 357 on Rolling Stone magazine's list of the 500 greatest albums of all time. This was the final Elton John album on the Uni label in the US and Canada before the Music Corporation of America consolidated all of its various labels under the MCA brand. This and Elton's earlier Uni albums were later reissued on MCA Records. Music This is the first album since John's debut (Empty Sky) not to feature strings on any songs, except for violinist Jean-Luc Ponty o...
 
He's like up in our grill with all that, like, moderator shit 'n' stuff.
 
FFS, me's trying to close-vote that a/an question.
Stop interfering.
 
@RegDwight should be a dup, just too lazy to find out which one
searching for "a an" is useless since those words are stoplisted
 
Of course it's a dupe.
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Q: Use of "a" versus "an"

Caleb ThompsonIn the following example, is it appropriate to use "a" or "an" as the indefinite article, and why? He ate [insert here] green apple. I know that in the case of just "apple", it would be "an apple," but I've heard conflicting answers for "green apple," where the noun is separated from the ar...

 
yeah, you beat me by a few secs
 
1:55 PM
Who wants chambres séparées?
Boring.
 
i was coming over to vote to close as a dup of that exact question
@Cerberus i don't speak french, but that sounds dirty
 
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Q: "A historic..." or "An historic..."?

crowleywilsonA basic grammar rule is to use an instead of a before a vowel sound. Given that historic is not pronounced with a silent h, I use “a historic”. Is this correct? What about heroic? Should be “It was a heroic act” or “It was an heroic act”? I remember reading somewhere that the h is sometimes sile...

 
@JSBangs — He's pissed because you didn't invite him to your party.
 
@JSB: Exactly!
 
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Q: Do you use "a" or "an" before acronyms?

Dori99% of the time, I'm clear on when I should use "a" versus "an." There's one case, though, where people & references I respect disagree. Which of the following would you precede with "a" or "an," and why? FAQ FUBAR SCUBA [Note: I've read the questions "A historic..." or "An historic…"? a...

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Q: "A English nerd" versus "an English nerd"

Swizec TellerOn some forum today I referred to myself as a English nerd. Now I'm wondering whether maybe I'm an English nerd. My gut feeling tells me that there is a slight nuance in meaning between the two phrases and that even though the general rule is to use an in front of a word starting with a vowel, I...

 
1:56 PM
@Rob: I just think sometimes divorce is the best option. Unless there are live-in children perhaps.
 
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Q: Which is correct- "A Year" or "An Year"?

ikartik90The word Year when pronounced starts with a phonetic sound of e which is a vowel sound making it eligible for being preceded by An. Yet, we tend to write A year. Why?

And these are just the open ones. Each of them easily has 5+ dupes.
 
HaL
I'm impressed.
 
I think an year must be correct, because the n that was dropped in Old Anglish should really be brought back.
Etymology trumps all.
 
the Q of a/an before acronyms is legitimately distinct from the general a/an question
 
I bid 7 etymology, grand slam!
 
1:58 PM
@JSBangs That's why it's still open.
Much like this one:
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Q: "a/an" preceding a parenthetical statement

keithjgrantWhen a/an precedes a parenthetical aside (sometimes seen in informal/conversational writing), should the vowel rule depend on the first word in parentheses, or the next word in the "regular" flow of the sentence? I need a (memorable) idiom (preceding an m word; use a) or I need an (memo...

 
@RegDwight well, then. you seem to have things under control here, so i'm going back to the party
 
@JSBangs As if you had ever left.
 
@RegDwight i also kind of like this one since many non-native speakers don't perceive [j] as a consonant.
my wife, for example, can't tell or pronounce the difference between year and ear
 
HaL
In America, we would find that adorable.
 
There was a question about a user vs an user just yesterday.
 
2:00 PM
Really? Wow I that is surprising. Where is she from?
 
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Q: "A user" or "an user"?

Tim Possible Duplicate: Use of “a” versus “an” Which is correct — “A Year” or “An Year”? I noticed an ad on Stack Overflow featuring another StackExchange site and the title of the question had this in it: Allow an user to... But shouldn't it be Allow a ...

@Cerberus Romania.
Mar 30 at 14:01, by JSBangs
@RegDwight visited Romania yet? That's where my wife is from
 
@RegDwight stay away from my wife.
 
@JSBangs I try, I try!
 
Oh, so doesn't Romanian have a word-initial /j/ sound?
 
Makes me want to get out an Uzi ... or is it "a" Uzi? Maybe I'll ask that on the board.
 
2:01 PM
@Robusto Well, one thing is for sure, its an Azi!
 
(P.S. Why does everyone in this chat always have a wife? Not fair.)
 
@Cerberus Because grown-ups, that's why.
 
@Cerberus — We don't "always" have them. Sometimes we let them rest for a few minutes.
 
@Cerberus the problem is very acute with [ji], since [j] is merely the non-syllabic version of [i]. non-natives (not just Romanians) take the difference between [ji] and [ɂi] to be extremely subtle
 
@Reg: Meh grown-ups are boring.
 
2:02 PM
@Robusto I so had to resist. But you, of course...
Mar 16 at 21:35, by RegDwight
OMG, I so resisted making that stoopid joke, but sure enough, Robusto goes for it.
 
@RegDwight — Consider me the worse angels of your nature, your unspoken id.
 
other combinations with word-initial [j] don't pose a problem
 
@Rob: Then what do you do in the meantime?
 
Oh, we get in chats & such.
 
@Cerberus Answering questions or complaining about no questions to answer.
 
2:03 PM
I also have a wife
 
@Reg: I see. Well, if that gets you through the day...
 
@trideceth12 Welcome to the club!
 
@tri: I knew it!
 
可不可以写汉字
sorry just testing
 
I am @RegDwight's unspoken id; I say the things he is too afraid to say. Fear me! For as I speak, so he thinks; and as he thinks, so I speak! You are all doomed!
 
2:04 PM
That's Chinese.
 
HaL
As do I. Is it everyone but Cereberus?
 
Yeah, Chinese.
We only allow Japanese in chat.
 
lol
 
Read the faq.
 
And some Communese.
But only some.
 
2:05 PM
@JSB: I see, that makes sense. I suppose they would have the same issue with (non/semi)vocalic u in other languages?
 
God, these stupid linguistic discussions just won't stop interfering. Get a room, you two.
 
@Wife-owner no1: My apologies.
 
@Cerberus yeah, i suspect that [wu] and [u] would pose a problem, but that comes up much less often in English. woos / ooze maybe
 
@Robusto This should be enough proof that I think in English.
 
@JSB: Right, oo- is the only thing that comes to mind. But it would be interesting to see whether the same phenomenon strikes in other languages, which do have [u-].
 
2:08 PM
@Cerberus quite possibly! i don't really know
 
How is French u rendered in IPA again, by the way?
 
@Cerberus [y]
 
@Cerberus y?
 
Ah.
 
JSBangs is so fast.
That's what partying will do to you.
 
2:09 PM
Those two keep confusing me, aspecially considering Cyrillic y and Greek upsilon.
(Yes, e and a also keep confusing me...)
 
@Cerberus actually, ypsilon is the key, since it was also pronounced as [y]
 
пурпур!
 
@JSB: Right! But in Cyrillic, y is [u], isn't it?
 
@Cerberus yes. those damn fool Commies
 
коммУнизм
 
2:12 PM
of course in Welsh y is [ɨ]
 
(The reason why Greek ypsilon/upsilon only increases my confusion is because minuscule upsilon looks like u, not y, even though we use Latin minuscule y in IPA.)
IPA [y] corresponds to Latin y, that's probably it. But I can't possibly remember something so confusing.
 
@JSBangs In German transliterations of Russian words, y is used to represent just that.
But the Germans can't pronounce [ɨ], so they go with [y]...
 
What does the strike-through i sound like?
 
The close central unrounded vowel is a type of vowel sound, used in some spoken languages. The symbol in the International Phonetic Alphabet that represents this sound is . The IPA symbol is the letter i with a horizontal bar. Both the symbol and the sound are commonly referred to as "barred-i". There is also a near-close central unrounded vowel in some languages. Features * Its vowel height is close, which means the tongue is positioned as close as possible to the roof of the mouth without creating a constriction that would be classified as a consonant. * Its vowel backness is central,...
 
Thanks.
Oh, that.
The same i as in is, right?
 
2:17 PM
@Cerberus no, not at all. that's [I], a close front lax vowel
 
Chernobyl has that sound.
In Russian/Ukrainian, that is.
In German, again, people just go with pronouncing it Chernobül.
 
@JSB: Thanks for that link! Pretty neat.
It is so difficult to hear distinctions that one is used to considering insignificant variations of the same phoneme in the languages one knows... argg...
 
@Cerberus I don't have a wife.
 
@Martha: Congratulations!
But do you have a husband?
 
Nope.
 
2:23 PM
ooooooooooh
 
This chat is taking an interesting direction.
 
Okay, then... you count!
(Not quite so interesting...)
Please don't star my husband line.
 
hey, the drinks are flowing, @Roberto is passed out by the hookah, chill out music is playing... there's no better chance than this
 
Still, ASL is off-topic here, for all meanings of ASL.
 
I think Martha is preoccupied with baby thoughts and I with making weird sounds, all within the [u]–[y] spectrum.
 
2:26 PM
I... I don't want to be next to you right now.
 
(P.S. Note my n-dash.)
(Shiny, huh?)
 
@Cerberus martha is having a baby? what?
 
No.
Her sister's.
(That was not a contraction but a possessive s.)
 
@Cerberus martha is having her sister's baby? what?
 
t te
 
2:28 PM
She often has her sister's baby over.
 
@JSBangs Not for dinner, d'oh.
 
Martha is at work, desperately trying to avoid working. Martha's niece is too far away for Martha to nibble said niece's ears.
 
She isn't Jewish I think.
 
@Cerberus No, I often visit my sister's baby. And, well, my sister and stuff.
 
@Martha: Oh, I thought niece was supposed to nibble auntie's ear.
 
2:29 PM
@Martha — What did you think of my book idea? The Baby Ears Diet!
 
I often visit my stuff, too. Especially Lego.
 
@Cerberus Niece has not yet graduated to nibbling. She can slobber with the best of them, though.
 
I am 27 and i still play with lego
my wife too
 
@Reg: Is that a reference to possessive "having"?
 
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LEGO

Proposed Q&A site for all, young and old, that have questions regarding building tricks, missing instructions sets, want to find particular part, exchange on their great creations.

Currently in commitment.

 
2:30 PM
@Martha: Slobbering is quite an important skill at that phase in one's career.
 
@trideceth12 RegDwight is, uh, older than 27, and still plays with Lego.
 
@Martha I don't play.
I play piano. Lego is serious business.
 
I think I left Lego and Playmobil when I got 18 or something. Still, good times.
 
@Cerberus No using swear words in chat.
 
@RegDwight committed
 
2:31 PM
On the other hand, some of my friends and I still address each other by the names of our favourite Playmobil characters. Does that count?
@Reg: Sorry.
 
@Cerberus Last warning!
 
@Cerberus Yes, her philosophy of life is: "Hmm, that looks interesting; how much of it can I stuff in my mouth?"
 
@Reg: Returns to pronouncing unpronounceable sounds.
 
Very much better.
 
What, wait: is Playmobil a bad word now?
 
2:33 PM
Always has been
 
@Martha: Putting stuff in one's mouth can be satisfying, I can see that, though to be honest it doesn't quite appeal so much to me now, if adults do it.
 
@Cerberus You should try yıldız some time.
 
Denmark never got over the War?
 
Hey I know a woman named Yildiz...
 
2:34 PM
Nonono, not Yildiz. Yıldız.
 
I know several women named Ildi (well, Ildikó, but Ildi for short)
 
HaL
Can someone here fix a comment on this question? Someone used HTML. english.stackexchange.com/questions/19895/…
Nevermind. Apparently they've noticed it themselves.
 
Well, they noticed, but didn't actually edit. Which isn't helpful.
 
HaL
Then my offer still stands. :)
 
Apropos nothing, someone new needs to star Alain's chat editing message. It has almost fallen off the bottom of the list, and we can't have that.
 
2:38 PM
[jɯɫˈdɯʐ] How did I sound?
I have starred it already.
 
@Cerberus Hence "someone new" [emphasis added]
 
I do think Atheist deserves another star as well? It is so close to death...
 
@Martha I can pin it for two weeks.
 
@RegDwight But that seems like cheating, somehow.
 
@Martha: Thank you for that enlightening emphasis! But you didn't know whether I was new, did you...
Awww no! Atheism has just died! What happened?
 
2:40 PM
Eh, Martha's ignoring me. I think she's secretly contacting her agent trying to steal my book idea.
 
@Cerberus "Just"? "JUST"???
 
@RegDwight — Not the sharpest cheese in the press.
 
@Robusto I am? Am I? What? Where?
 
Atheism died several days ago for me. It depends on the window and font size.
 
@Reg: I mean it just died in spirit too, i.e. in the starred list. And then it sprung to life again, be it spiritually. Yay!
Oh!
I see it now again.
 
2:45 PM
Make your window smaller. You will kill it again.
 
Abomination!
Don't say that!
 
I don't say. I write.
 
And why are you on such a small screen then?
 
17 mins ago, by Robusto
@Martha — What did you think of my book idea? The Baby Ears Diet!
 
And why did it die for me, for just a moment, then came back to life? I didn't change my window size.
 
2:46 PM
It's a conspiracy.
 
Jinx!!
 
An atheist conspiracy.
 
@Cerberus Someone new must have starred it - I remember it having 6 stars, not 7.
 
I was typing just that.
 
Um, Cerberus, you can't jinx air.
 
2:47 PM
@Martha: You're right!
@Reg: I can jinx air.
 
-1
Q: What's the meaning of "Acme developers for IPhone"?

H27P21Hello guys, I have recently heard the term "Acme developer of IPhone." I was just wondering what it stands for? I think I know the meaning: Is it when a developer goes to a client and presents his/her ideas for the app? Thanks for your help.

Is this on topic?
I didn't downvote it, but I'm not sure it is.
 
I can jinx anything. I also do homoeopathic jinxing, i.e. jinxing nothing at all.
 
No you can't. No you don't. No.
 
It depends on whether the Acme here is being used metaphorically, or not.
 
@Robusto I don't think I'd make a very good spokesperson for a diet book. Round is a shape, and all that.
 
2:50 PM
@Martha well, but that's before you start eating all these baby ears
 
I wonder who downvoted my Acme answer. MrHen gave the same answer 17 minutes later without pictures and got upvoted. Sheesh. Tough crowd.
 
@Bill: I actually think it is a fine question! What's wrong with it? True, more context would have been nice; but the answers solve that problem.
I have upvoted all.
 
Those communist Dutchmen.
 
Haha.
Well they all deserved the classless paradise!
 
@Martha — But babies are the perfect nosh to nibble on. No calories! And you never run out!
 
2:52 PM
Question: doesn't anybody else use "acres better"? See @PLL's comment here: english.stackexchange.com/questions/19779/…
 
@Cerberus Yeah. (BTW I would really appreciate a spelling of my name as Billare.) I'm not sure whether or not Acme is being used as in the Wile E. Coyote sense or as a reference to "any generic company."
 
@Cerberus Hey, I have answers with pictures, too. Go upvote them. Pronto.
 
@Robusto i think that MrHen's answer is much better, as it explains what Acme alludes to without requiring that you be familiar w/ Wile E. Coyote
 
@Martha: I like acres better but I have never heard it before (could very well be just me).
 
@Robusto Whatcha talking about? I run out on a regular basis; a weekly basis, in fact.
 
2:53 PM
@JSBangs — So do you downvote all the answers you think aren't as good as the one you like?
 
@Billare: Oops, sorry, forgot. It is just that I hate typing longer names than necessary and my hands automatically refuse.
@Reg: Show me your pictures then!
 
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A: Verbs ending with "ing" after prepositions

RegDwightThis is kind of tricky, let's see if I can explain... As Claudiu pointed out already, gerund is the term. However, expanding on what he said, "a verb ending in -ing" is not necessarily a gerund; it could be a present participle. A gerund is an -ing form used as a noun (more precisely, as the hea...

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A: What does "hit me like a two-by-four" mean?

RegDwight2×4: From Wikipedia. Edit: Oh, and the sentence as a whole means that the observation was a big surprise or a great shock; an aha experience or a eureka moment; an eye-opener.

 
@JSB: I think both answers nicely complement each other?
 
@Robusto I don't think JSBangs has downvoted anything today.
 
OK, gtg.
Cya all.
 
2:57 PM
@Cerberus Oh, and for the sake of fairness and balance:
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A: What's the difference between "rock" and "stone"?

BenjolA rock is bigger, possibly immovable, you couldn't throw it with one hand, at a pinch you might be able to with two. Above, a Google Image result for "Rock", below, for "Stone" Note that a boulder is probably bigger than a rock1. Below, a boulder Oh, also note that rocks and boulders are...

 
@RegDwight @Robusto, actually, i did downvote, b/c though the answer was cute, i didn't think it answered the question. i also downvoted the question itself. i like my downvotes -- i make no apologies
 
@JSBangs — OK mofo, it is on.
 
LOL.
 

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