Root Access

Jared Tritsch

07:00

Storage spaces is way cool, but it was kept so much under wraps through beta that not much is known about the nuts and bolts of it

Journeyman Geek

@JaredTritsch: Oh, I worked out out eventually. Its just wierd

Jared Tritsch

Yeah. It's different from classic raid configurations so its weird at first.

Journeyman Geek

more like, why it dosen't like my drives ;p

Jared Tritsch

Lol yup. And it HATES Linux. It just has no clue how to deal with ext4

My solution is that I moved all my Linux partitions onto its own physical drive. Then I could maximize my storage space potential.

Journeyman Geek

OH

frigging

Bob

07:02

How does it react to loss of a drive?

Journeyman Geek

depends on the setting

Jared Tritsch

Flags it as "failed" and the array goes into a degraded state.

Bob

so partial data loss?

Jared Tritsch

If you have it redundant, no.

Bob

if you have it redundant, then it's basically RAID

Jared Tritsch

07:03

You can have up to 2-drive redundancy.

Journeyman Geek

actually 3

with 5 drives

Bob

JBOD is not redundant by nature

JBOD + RAID, on the other hand... :P

Jared Tritsch

It's not JBOD unless you set it to be

@journeyman if you have it in 3-way mirror that covers you for up to two failures.

Journeyman Geek

yup, and there's raid mode

Bob

you two are confus-

oh, that explains a lot -_-

Journeyman Geek

07:05

@JaredTritsch: I'm posting another answer BTW

Jared Tritsch

Storage spaces has 4 options.

Journeyman Geek

you'll still have the 'selected' answer, but I'm NOT wasting these screenshots

Jared Tritsch

Hehe you can edit them into mine if you want.

Journeyman Geek

lol

it would be a VERY drastic edit

believe me

Jared Tritsch

Anyway. SS has 4 options, JBOD, raid 1, raid 5, and 3 way mirror

Journeyman Geek

07:06

I was thinking of that, but it was implausible without shredding the hell out of your answer

Jared Tritsch

Idc.

Whatever makes a clearer answer for other people.

I'm just here to help ;-) and show off a bit.

Journeyman Geek

lol

You get the tick and the upvote. I get less work cause I typed out most of this already ;p

Jared Tritsch

No worries :-P let's see what you got.

Anyone have any thoughts on my question?

0

Q: Can a single volume be assigned multiple drive letters?

I am working on migrating data across many disparate drives onto one massive Windows 8 Storage Space. Problem I have is that many of my programs reference various drive letters to acces their libraries, files, music, movies, etc. Is there any way I can, for example, have any reference of drives...

Journeyman Geek

actually, i think its doable

though I'd think folder mapping might be neater

Jared Tritsch

I've never even heard of it being done before, but I REALLY don't want to sift through and repath hundreds of directors...

Journeyman Geek

07:12

actually its just a matter of... adding another drive letter to the volume

Jared Tritsch

? You write up an answer and its and easy 35 points to you.

Journeyman Geek

lol

Once I'm done with this, and tested it

Jared Tritsch

Cause just reconfiguring utorrent alone is like 5 hours work...

Journeyman Geek

@JaredTritsch windows 7 or 8?

Jared Tritsch

>.< man getting 15 up votes is like seeing a unicorn... My only answer that got close was closed on me :-(

Windows 8

Bob

07:16

@JaredTritsch answered :P

Journeyman Geek

OOH

I forgot about that approach

Bob

@JourneymanGeek Folder mapping is a NTFS feature, done through Disk Management

It's not possible to use that for an extra letter

Disk Management doesn't like adding extra letters, either

Journeyman Geek

not what I was gonna do

Bob

lol

Journeyman Geek

wierd, I remember doign that

Bob

07:17

DM that was my first thought, but it failed

Journeyman Geek

ugh, I need to stop hiding my taskbar

I can't hit windows to bring it up any more

Jared Tritsch

I'm curious what JG is going for... SUBST works in win 8?

Bob

@JaredTritsch IIRC, you can open the config file and do a find/replace to change all the paths

Journeyman Geek

oh, my bad.

My approach didn't work

Bob

@JourneymanGeek Win+T

@JourneymanGeek What was it? :P

Journeyman Geek

07:18

disk management ;p

folder mapping was just a random idea I tossed out

symlinks might work here too

Bob

nah

Jared Tritsch

@bob is subst tested?

Journeyman Geek

but I'm not familiar enough to actually answer with em

Bob

@JaredTritsch yes

symlinks need to create an actual file

Journeyman Geek

@JaredTritsch: its an old trick, so ya, would work

Jared Tritsch

07:19

Cool. 35 points headed your way.

Bob

so it must sit on a drive

@JaredTritsch thanks :P

Jared Tritsch

Also symlinks can't be pointed to a root drive.

Bob

Windows 8 hasn't really removed anything on the command line side

@JaredTritsch o.O never knew that

Journeyman Geek

@JaredTritsch: I think I have ONE question with 15 rep in the contest

oh, I figured you'd map folder to folder

Jared Tritsch

I know. Lucky bastard. I want that surface!

:-P

Journeyman Geek

07:21

lol

I still only have a 2/3 chance of it ;p

for now

Jared Tritsch

Who hit tier 4? It was only two people last I checked...

Journeyman Geek

Graham Wagner was the third

Jared Tritsch

Ahhh nice. We got him to tier 3 last night. Bugger was busy today.

Journeyman Geek

lol

I took advantage of the early wave

Bob

@JaredTritsch The target can be a root (just tested)

Journeyman Geek

07:23

I'm not actually sure why I'm still answering windows 8 questions ;p

Jared Tritsch

Yeah. You were tier 4, what? Three days into the contest?

Bob

@JourneymanGeek Preventing others :P

Jared Tritsch

You're still answering questions cause you have 40k rep and still want more.

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: er, me getting votes dosen't stop others from

@JaredTritsch: Well, actually, I hardly ever worry about rep at this point

the next guy is about 10K ahead

/me likes documenting tho ;p

Bob

@JourneymanGeek if you answer quickly, others can't post the exact same answer :P

Journeyman Geek

07:26

@Bob: I don't always answer quickly. ;p

Bob

I successfully created a link from C:\d to D:\ — cable729 3 mins ago

:\

it's not the same thing

Jared Tritsch

@bob that's not JG's style. He prefers taking someone else's answer, then blowing them into oblivion with a barrage of screenshots.

Bob

lol

Journeyman Geek

@JaredTritsch: actually, while its not true in your case, Its actually what I do ;p

your answer was ok. Bad answers annoy me

Jared Tritsch

youve done that to me not one, but TWICE! lol

Journeyman Geek

07:28

twice?

Jared Tritsch

It's not intentional on your part of course.

Journeyman Geek

naw, I do that whenever I think there's a benefit ;p

Jared Tritsch

Yeah there was one question a couple days ago where I was the only answer for like 3 hours, then you come along and give the same answer but pretty with shiny screenshots.

I'm not mad, but it was a face palm moment.

Journeyman Geek

lol

which one?

Bob

xD

Jared Tritsch

07:30

I'll have to look I don't remember

Bob

has anyone here used django? :S

Journeyman Geek

I really don't actually notice. I skim through the answers, see that I can post something neat... and poof

@Bob: coded on, or used ?

Bob

@JourneymanGeek uhm, set it up

Journeyman Geek

I had a OSQA install for a while, which ran on it

Bob

lol

startproject worked, but missing the manage.py script

this is giving me a headache

Journeyman Geek

07:32

oh, that level of set up

no clue :/

Bob

maybe I should actually install it properly :P

Jared Tritsch

4

A: What gets synced across computers using the same Microsoft Account?

Quite a lot actually - app settings(probably just for modern apps), browser settings, mouse and file explorer settings. You can see what you can turn off and on at the settings page. Everything there but passwords seem on by default (passwords need you to verify a e mail sent to your e mail add...

This wasn't it, but here's one.

Journeyman Geek

OH

I forgot to comment why link only answers are bad :/

Jared Tritsch

I was like, COME ON! My link has the whole list!

Journeyman Geek

your link can go down

rendering your answer useless

Jared Tritsch

07:34

Ah, true.

Journeyman Geek

Part of the reason I actually 'do' screenshots is SU really is a self contained place.

We don't have to rely on windows supersite keeping the same layout, for example

Jared Tritsch

Yeah, but its hard to get an answer up quick when there are questions like that that can easily be answered by a link to the list...

Journeyman Geek

lol

Jared Tritsch

But I see the point.

Journeyman Geek

I don't see if there's other answers

Jared Tritsch

07:36

Maybe one day I'll go back and write a blog post with the exhaustive list.

Journeyman Geek

I see if there's answers I can improve easily (with screenshots!) or answers I can answer in detail

Jared Tritsch

Are you really in Singapore? Or is that alias?

Bob

@JourneymanGeek You just love answering answers, don't you? :P

Journeyman Geek

Really in singapore

@Bob: yes!

and they give me a direction to poke around computers

Jared Tritsch

@bob he just likes showing off his snip-fu.

Journeyman Geek

07:38

@JaredTritsch: I admit, its a lot easier lately

notes the snipping tool makes it easier. On windows 8 there's that awesome win-prntscn button

Jared Tritsch

Hm, I totally would have pegged you for "basement it office beneath a New York high rise" type.

Journeyman Geek

lol

Sadly, still in school at my age

got a job or two lined up though

Jared Tritsch

Nice. You add your super user banner to your resume?

Journeyman Geek

kinda

Last time I was job hunting, I wasn't very active on SU

Bob

lol

Journeyman Geek

07:40

actually, It might not have even started

Jared Tritsch

4 years ago?

Journeyman Geek

then I went back to school (again, flunked twice :/)

Bob

all you need is a little SO

Journeyman Geek

ya, around there

Not really a coder ;p

SF style stuff interests me more

Jared Tritsch

<-- definitely not a coder. But I'm famous in scifi.SE

Journeyman Geek

07:42

I'm the sorta guy who goes OOH AAAH over server-rooms rather than code.

Jared Tritsch

@journeymangeek +1! Me too!

Journeyman Geek

@JaredTritsch: I'm sorta mythical here ;p

(by which people occationally wonder about the nature of my existance)

Jared Tritsch

dons voice of scooter from borderlands you're like a unicorrrrnn!!!

Journeyman Geek

lol

See my profile ;p

First time I got 200 rep in a day, I was sick, high as a kite, and posted, what seemed a rather loopy answer ;p

Jared Tritsch

Boo hiss clacking keyboards. Chiclet keys FTW!

I've only been here three weeks and I've hit the cap three times...

Journeyman Geek

07:44

lol

Bob

@JaredTritsch I have no idea how people do that :(

Journeyman Geek

@JaredTritsch: prolly cause of the windows 8 contest. Hitting 200 is USUALLY a big thing

Bob

I've only hit it once in the better part of a year

Journeyman Geek

@JaredTritsch: I'm not very comfy with chicklet keys

I LOVE my mechanical

Jared Tritsch

Nah. I just answer everything I can. Almost all my answers have 1-3 votes each.

Journeyman Geek

07:45

though If i worked for someone else, I'd go for somethign quieter

Jared Tritsch

Office to yourself?

Journeyman Geek

lol

Jared Tritsch

Or noisy cube farm?

Journeyman Geek

working for my dad

Jared Tritsch

Ah even better.

Ivo Flipse

07:46

@agent86 I think your answer must have helped, that or putting it in hibernation instead of sleep

Journeyman Geek

pay's crap, benefits are usually good

though this week, i'm basically on my own, which is horrid

Jared Tritsch

Me I'm in a noisy open desk area managing a data center. No one cares about keyboard noise but mu wrists want to slash themselves if I have to use a mech keyboard.

Bob

Hm.. considering MUI Snap has a fixed width (320px), there needs to be some standard user agent element for MUI Snapped apps so sites can display the mobile view

...or just use a common mobile user agent :P

Journeyman Geek

lol

I just switch the site to mobile mode

Ivo Flipse

hmmm @JourneymanGeek your answer about syncing finally made me read the fine print, it indeed mentions backgrounds

Journeyman Geek

07:48

@JaredTritsch: from my very unscientific tests, the noise levels off my BW arn't much worse than any other desktop keyboard

granted I tried a logitech and a 'mercury'

Jared Tritsch

yeah, because BWs are cushioned.

Journeyman Geek

Oh, and heavy as hell

Jared Tritsch

Try the older ones that had springs... Oy!

Journeyman Geek

I wanted one!

But my brother ordered it, and the order got cancelled for some reason

Jared Tritsch

Me I use a Logitech illuminated. <3

Journeyman Geek

07:50

blackwidow ultimate at the moment

Jared Tritsch

That and my Razer mamba 2012 and I'm in heaven. Funny I like thin keyboard, but heavy nice.

Journeyman Geek

got my eyes on a razer taipan, but thats once I get the rest of my system.

Ivo Flipse

@JourneymanGeek I think I have that one too, the loud one :P

Journeyman Geek

my current mouse is a g300, great mouse, but a pain in the rear to find

Ivo Flipse

Now I need a nice mouse to go with it

Jared Tritsch

07:51

Yeah. System $$ always takes precedence over perifs. Alas my next thousand USD will be buying 6 more 3tb hDDS

Journeyman Geek

lol

Ivo Flipse

Journeyman Geek

@JaredTritsch: If I worked in a place that allowed it, I'd just lug my older hardware over

Ivo Flipse

Doesn't that one have a little too many buttons?

Journeyman Geek

@IvoFlipse: actually, no

Jared Tritsch

07:52

That's to offset the 6tbs I already filled up >.<

Journeyman Geek

I DON'T really like the four side buttons

Ivo Flipse

I have buttons like that on my mouse (the left ones), I never use them

Journeyman Geek

I use the ones under the scrollwheel for scrolling

Bob

@IvoFlipse need more buttons! :P

Journeyman Geek

if those side buttons were off to thumbable positions though...

Bob

07:53

@JourneymanGeek why not?

ah

Ivo Flipse

The new top of the line mouse from Logitech has one button below the thumb, which might be nice

Jared Tritsch

Yummy

Ivo Flipse

That scroll wheel looks pleasant to use

Journeyman Geek

razerzone.com/gaming-mice/razer-taipan this looks perfect

Ivo Flipse

I think I tried to hold one of those

that one keeps is simple enough @JourneymanGeek

Journeyman Geek

07:54

other than size (not sure on that) and cost (almost 3x my g300 :/)

same number of buttons

Jared Tritsch

The scroll wheel is a dream. Plus it's 7200 dpi, both a red and blue laser for different surfaces, wired/wireless modes, and its heavy!

Ivo Flipse

I wonder if that Logitech touchpad would be any good, to use in addition to a mouse that is

Jared Tritsch

I used the taipans before. I like the orochi better for a small mouse.

Ivo Flipse

@JaredTritsch what's the model name?

Journeyman Geek

hm, the small mouse thing.. might be an issue, I prefer chunky mice ;p

Jared Tritsch

07:56

@IvoFlipse which one? Mine?

Razer mamba 2012

Ivo Flipse

@JaredTritsch Yeah, that one

I'm not sure if I want wireless, the battery always dies on me at the wrong moment

I do keep spares around and a charger, but still

Journeyman Geek

lol

Ivo Flipse

they always died during SC2 matches :P

Journeyman Geek

@IvoFlipse: my spare's a M310

battery goes on and on and on

Jared Tritsch

razerzone.com/gaming-mice/razer-mamba @ivoflipse

Ivo Flipse

07:57

Journeyman Geek

(and only has 2 buttons)

Ivo Flipse

I've spend weeks drawing circles around frigging dog paws

Journeyman Geek

paw!

Ivo Flipse

That stuff kills your battery

Journeyman Geek

lol

thats something I suspect a tablet would be easier for

Ivo Flipse

07:58

@JaredTritsch And a price tag to match! :P

Jared Tritsch

@ivoflipse the mamba is both wired and wireless so if your battery goes you can just plug In a wire and keep going.

Ivo Flipse

@JaredTritsch Now that's something I'd dig

Jared Tritsch

If you want it's little brother check out orochi. Same features but a notebook version. Half the cost too.

Ivo Flipse

Else I'd probably go for this one

Jared Tritsch

That one is nice. I like the weight of that series

Ivo Flipse

07:59

it has a little button on the left, which you could use like alt+tab

Jared Tritsch

I need my mice to feel like I'm holding a stone. If its too light I find them hard to control.

Ivo Flipse

@JaredTritsch Naah, its expensive, but I need it professionally, not just to frag the shit out of stuff :P

Journeyman Geek

is that the one with the cool scrollwheel?

Jared Tritsch

@ivoflipse I use this at work. I own two. It is amazing for both applications, because of the dpi and ergonomic design.

@journeymangeek yes.

And you can even change the LED color! I have it pulsing through the rainbow.

@ivoflipse pssh, just write it off as a business expense.

Journeyman Geek

I meant the logitechs, some models have a metal scrollwheel that free rotates ;p

Ivo Flipse

08:02

@JaredTritsch That requires income to write it off from :P

Jared Tritsch

Ew.... Free rotate? Yuk

I need my click stops.

Journeyman Geek

free rotation, no idea. Metal scrollwheel? HECK YES

Jared Tritsch

Meh. The Razer mice all use neoprene on the wheels (wetsuit material). Sticky enough to grab skin, but comfy enough to be wondrous. Metal would be.... Slippery.

Sweat+brushed aluminum=slip and slide for the palm and fingers.

You want your mouse to be an extension of your hand, not flying across the desk when you need it most. It's like that one last heart in Zelda. It's just not there when you need it.

Ivo Flipse

Hmm that Mamba is getting some mixed reviews, but might be also for older models

Jared Tritsch

Yeah the original version had bugs, but the 2012 version is now one of their flagship models.

If you want a cheaper version look at the DeathAdder. It's only 60, and its just a bit less dpi and no wireless, but its the same shape and weight.

Ivo Flipse

08:14

Man I wish I could try them out somewhere :\

Jared Tritsch

Best buy stocks the DeathAdder. Idk where you live but if you have a Fry's then you can see the mamba there.

Netherlands?? Pssh can't help you there >.<

Ivo Flipse

@JaredTritsch Hehe, yeah can't blame you

We have plenty of stores here, but they don't all stock the expensive mice and you can't test them everywhere

Jared Tritsch

Anyway... I'm off to bed. It's 2:20 am here...

Ivo Flipse

Sleep well :)

Jared Tritsch

Night

Ivo Flipse

08:18

Damn chat is broken in IE10

Can't change the notification sound or click on users

avirk

09:12

@Tom & @Sathya here is the bug in script I was talking about.

Journeyman Geek

ahh, Free Geek Vancouver freegeekvancouver.blogspot.com/2012/10/phonetendo.html

Its amazing how much power there is in simple, modern devices

Paul

@TomWijsman I got the email on 11th Oct saying it was coming, and it arrived on the 23rd Oct I think. This is from the UK to AU.

avirk

@JourneymanGeek I tried to install the dotnet framework in Windows 8 but it asked every time to download the files over the internet while I have standalone setup ~200mb

Journeyman Geek

@avirk: You shouldn't need to unless an application asks for it

avirk

@JourneymanGeek But there is no way to install it and I need it for an application :)

Journeyman Geek

09:21

hmm

I'd guess the standalone setup dosen't work any more?

avirk

@JourneymanGeek i downloaded it just today. but wait its not sp1 just only 3.5

@JourneymanGeek link me if you can?

Journeyman Geek

@avirk: I have no idea, mine downloaded it off the internet ;p

avirk

@JourneymanGeek hmmmmm

So go for a question for it?

Journeyman Geek

I guess

Bob

... giving a complete answer = a fair bit slower than three other people :P

Ok, now that's just cheating with the screenshot sizes :\

At least you don't stretch them, @JourneymanGeek :P

jokerdino

09:29

:P

Journeyman Geek

no, I usually shrink em ;p

jokerdino

Why can't they crop it or something?

too many screenshots make me dizzy.

Bob

seriously, though, that's bad. it looks fugly :\

BLURRY! BAD!

so much for cleartype :P

yay, django finally installed

I think

Journeyman Geek

the screenshots arn't his I'd suspect

jokerdino

I am going out for dinner. Cya laters.

Bob

09:40

@JourneymanGeek well, whoever took them

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: well he copy pasted them from another site

Bob

I refuse to believe the possibility of Windows scaling that much :P

Journeyman Geek

lol

one moment

Bob

@JourneymanGeek ... please don't say ...

Journeyman Geek

I'm about 30% sure he copied it ;p

Bob

09:42

o.O

ok, I just discovered virtualenv does not play nice with Windows

Journeyman Geek

didn't even use imgur

What's that?

Bob

@JourneymanGeek creates an isolated Python environment

Journeyman Geek

ahh

Bob

when you run the activate script in the environment, it tweaks paths a bit

helps with package conflicts, etc

but on Windows it doesn't tweak .py associations

Journeyman Geek

ahh

prolly cause windows dosen't read the first line

Bob

09:45

had to manually add that bit... which involved base64 decoding, unzlibbing, changing, zlibbing, base64 decoding

@JourneymanGeek nothing to do with that

Journeyman Geek

also, they might have used the magnifier for the screenshot

Bob

it has an activate.bat and activate.sh

@JourneymanGeek good point, I forgot about that :P

there's a nice hack to get virtualenv working fully with Windows: stackoverflow.com/a/7275321/1030702

but it's rather tedious

Journeyman Geek

er actually no

c-sharpcorner.com/UploadFile/93126e/…

this guys screenshots just suck

Bob

...

what the hell happened there?!

Journeyman Geek

c-sharpcorner.com/UploadFile/6cde20/… bingo

Bob

09:51

If he can post screenshots like that without thinking something's wrong, I hope his job has nothing to do with graphical/interface design. Nothing.

Journeyman Geek

lol

school student

IIT, so he ought to know better

Bob

o.O

Journeyman Geek

Commented on the source of the screenshots.

Bob

0

A: Can I use the default pdf reader in desktop ui mode

No. The PDF reader is a Modern UI app; you cannot run Modern UI apps on the desktop. You could run it on a virtual machine instead.

Journeyman Geek

what? Its on his profile!

Bob

09:54

That answer makes sense until that last line.

Journeyman Geek

ahh ;p

wait...

superuser.com/questions/494558/changing-shortcut-keys thats the oddest hardware/software combination I can think of

Bob

Some days, though, running Adobe Reader does make me feel like I'm running a whole OS just to view PDFs. I mean, resource usage, not functionality.

Journeyman Geek

lol

Bob

@JourneymanGeek ...is that Win8 on a chromebook?

Journeyman Geek

I just run pdfxchange these days

@Bob: The original chomebook

which was given out for free to some lucky folk

Bob

09:57

is the resolution even high enough for MUI?

ah, 1280x800

so, MUI but no snapping

@JourneymanGeek What stats were you looking for again?

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