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12:00
@user430580 no problem! Wait 6-8 minutes. :D
@Amit this. Got closed in 2010 so I moved to SE.
@PetəíŕdtheWizard yeah, I daily see in the news that Israel has done this or that in Gaza or Lebanon lol, so I just want to ask what does Israeli people think about it?
@LuckyChouhan it's... complicated. You have to ask "which people" as we're very much divided as well.
@PetəíŕdtheWizard Wow that's quick! Also BTW, isn't it some sort of meme on SE network that everything takes "6-8 weeks"? =P
12:01
@ShadowWizard I see! Looks like a cozy place :P I never wrote a single line in ASP probably, so I'm sure it's the first I hear of it
@user430580 see I've send you something in The h Bar.
Which applied 100% in this chat room :)
@ShadowWizard BTW Hello and welcome to our little room, really happy to see you here!
@Amit classic ASP was the daddy of ASP.NET, kind of. :D
@ShadowWizard yeah, I understand.
@user430580 thanks!
looking for the toilets in this room
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12:03
@user430580 yess it is! :D
@ShadowWizard so what do you think?
@ShadowWizard I once (literally once) wrote a JSP page, and someone pointed out to me it's a similar concept to ASP. That one month project I helped on, was the closest I even came to doing web development :P
@ShadowWizard 🚽🚽🚽🚽
@user430580 yay! Four! And so close to each other. Dream coming true. :-D
@Amit it's actually the same, I think, just written with JavaScript rather than VBScript.
Haha yes, they are close so that people sitting on them can have a friendly conversation. "Hey there, nice watch!" :P
12:05
@user430580 exactly! Had it IRL during army, on field training. Ah, good old times. :D
@LuckyChouhan in a nutshell? That the situation is bad for everyone, and getting only worse. :(
@user430580 here's your dish:
upper = ["ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ", "ДBCDEГGHIJКLNИOPФЯSTЦVШЖЧZ"]
lower = ["abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz", "дъcdefgнijкlмиopфяsтцvшжчz"]

user = input("What do you want to 'convert': ")

new = ""
for letter in user:
	if letter in upper[0] or letter in lower[0]:
		new += upper[1][upper[0].index(letter)] if letter.upper()==letter else lower[1][lower[0].index(letter)]
	else: new += letter

print(new)
@ShadowWizard Wow seriously? Haha that's so funny
@LuckyChouhan Most of the time I just think I wish all humanity would be about cuddles and cats, honestly. This politics stuff is exhausting, and the war situation here is troubling. More so for some than others. But the Wizard is correct, we all have differing opinions. But on that account, I also think we all want peace, too. It's the path we often have disputes about, not the goal...
@user430580 yes, it was. :)
@PetəíŕdtheWizard THANK YOU!!!
12:07
@user430580 you're welcome! :)
@OakBot can you tell what people are here in this room and describe each of them?
@ShadowWizard Oh, just some wizards, a few lucky folks, some Amit, and a ghost or two. Standard room crowd, really. 😏
LMAO, Some Amit
I like that
I'm a noun now
@Amit Hi a noun now, I'm Oak!
lol
/imagine some Amit, and a ghost or two
@PetəíŕdtheWizard No definitions found. Did you mean emit, omit, amid, amity, Hamite, Amati, amt, amide, amok, anat, emic, unit, Emmet, mat, amdt, anti, emote, umiak, hemat-, or mitt?
12:08
/rhyme Amit
I'm going to use this prompt instead: An average height male of Indian descent named Amit, standing and smiling. He is wearing casual clothing - denim jeans and a t-shirt. There are a couple of translucent ghostly apparitions floating nearby, appearing with a soft glow against a dark background, and displaying expressions of surprise and delight.
@PetəíŕdtheWizard amit, arête, athlete, backseat, basidiomycete, beat, beet, bleat, breit, bridgette, bufete, carseat, cheat, cleat, cliett, compete, complete, conceit, concrete, crete, deceit, defeat, delete, deplete, discreet, discrete, downbeat, eat, eet, effete, elite, entreat, excrete, feat, feet, fleet, freet, gamete, gleet, greet, grete, heartbeat, heat, incomplete, indeed, indiscreet, jobete, keet, keitt, kriete, lalit, lanete, leet, leete, leite, loyal, marguerite, marquerite, meat, meet, mesqu
@Amit that's you? ^^
@PetəíŕdtheWizard I think that's really neatly written, my solution would be 10x longer at least, unless I had been sitting on it for hours. You're really good at Python :P
@user430580 thanks :-)
12:09
lol... that's the Indian (or India region I guess) version of Amit :P My name is common basically among Indians and Israelis :P but not much of anywhere else
Heч тнeяe, jцsт тячiиg oцт Peтeiяd's pяogядм диd pяeтeиdiиg тo шяiтe iи Яцssiди
lolol
hm, let me test something
It makes me feel so primitive for writing it letter by letter before :P
@Amit yeah, Peace is imperative. But what Israel is doing, is totally against humanity as we can see what happened to people in Gaza, now in Lebanon. And you know people don't want war it is just some people who want power and show their influence do.
This is code to "translate" the "gibberish" back:

upper = ["ДBCDEГGHIJКLNИOPФЯSTЦVШЖЧZ", "ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ"]
lower = ["дъcdefgнijкlмиopфяsтцvшжчz", "abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz"]

user = input("What do you want to 'convert' back to normal English: ")

new = ""
for letter in user:
	if letter in upper[0] or letter in lower[0]:
		new += upper[1][upper[0].index(letter)] if letter.upper()==letter else lower[1][lower[0].index(letter)]
	else: new += letter

print(new)
12:13
@Amit one I read in a newspaper that "If Israel continues doing what it is doing now, it won't attain peace ever."
@PetəíŕdtheWizard dammit lol
it seems we can't do monospace replies
@PetəíŕdtheWizard monospace
@LuckyChouhan I meant multiline
@LuckyChouhan Going into the "which side is worse" debate will get us into politics which I don't want. The one thing I can tell you, if you truly study the history of the conflict, you'll see that it is an incredibly complex set of choices and events that lead to the current dire situation. The thing is, when you bring yourself into a bad situation, sometimes all of the choices you have are nasty or even inhuman in some respects, and you just have to choose what you think is the least of evils.
@PetəíŕdtheWizard haha nice :D
@PetəíŕdtheWizard

multiline
monospace
did it work?
12:17
@user430580 technically it works but I meant to make replies to specific messages
@LuckyChouhan I'm always ambivalent towards these kind of blanket statements. On the one hand, Israel should be criticized in some respects more because it aspires to be a modern western nation, judged by western standards. So in some respects it should be judged more harshly than its opponents. On the other hand, it also makes people sometimes forget Israel is dealing with something most western modern nations in the world simply don't.
@user430580 actually all I did was just reversing the upper and lower arrays. It has room for improvement but I'm too lazy to do it for myself :D
@Slereah Hello and welcome to our little chat, always happy to see new people join in!
@PetəíŕdtheWizard I know, but still
@Amit yeah, it sounds plausible. Even history of Israel is too chaotic.
Wow, this room only has 4K messages
@PetəíŕdtheWizard Of course it is 4K, we don't do that old VGA or 720p thing
12:20
@Amit you seem to be a thinker, do you like geo politics?
yes, it's still small
@user430580 wow looks like some old-time chat user
Mosт of тнe тiмe I jцsт тнiик I шisн дll нцмдиiтч шoцld ъe дъoцт cцddles диd cдтs, нoиesтlч. Tнis poliтics sтцff is eжндцsтiиg, диd тнe шдя siтцдтioи нeяe is тяoцъliиg. Moяe so foя soмe тнди oтнeяs. Bцт тнe Шizдяd is coяяecт, шe дll ндve diffeяiиg opiиioиs. Bцт oи тндт дccoцит, I дlso тнiик шe дll шдит peдce, тoo. Iт's тнe pдтн шe ofтeи ндve dispцтes дъoцт, иoт тнe goдl...
@PetəíŕdtheWizard They've sent about 4.2 times more than all-time Peteird's Den messages
@LuckyChouhan Not really that much. Honestly, if this stuff wouldn't be relevant to our everyday life like it is, especially now, I would know much less about it :)
12:21
@PetəíŕdtheWizard wow that's a lot
@PetəíŕdtheWizard he knows because he started this char room with @Amit to discuss something and now it is popular in Physics SE :')
@Amit I see, are you a college student?
@LuckyChouhan hmm
@LuckyChouhan Which chatroom? :o
@Amit This chatroom
@PetəíŕdtheWizard Peteird's Den is a big boy, I wish this room will one day be as big
12:22
beep boop
@LuckyChouhan Nooo, a bit too old for that
@user430580 hehe, thanks :)
@Amit you're Indian right?
@user430580 The yet bigger boy is Wizards Den!
@LuckyChouhan oh, I'm pretty sure @user430580 started this room all on his own, and I joined somewhere right at the start :) I deserve no credit for the founding of this honorable establishment
@LuckyChouhan nope... Israeli
12:24
@PetəíŕdtheWizard It's a bit inactive right now but it's been there for at least 13 years.
@Amit lol
@PetəíŕdtheWizard Just look at the sheer number.
?? Why's that funny.. I'm missing the joke
@Amit That's correct but I was just talking to myself about metals, you were there almost since the beginning and without your participation it wouldn't grow I think :P
@user430580 thanks.. <3
12:26
@Amit you're surely joking, your name suggests that you're an Indian (yeah non-Indians can also have Indian names),
@PetəíŕdtheWizard Bad human! You are over quota and can't make any more requests right now. Try again in 18 hours.
@OakBot why thank you
@PetəíŕdtheWizard Hey, don't mention it! I guess I'm useful sometimes. 😜
12:26
@OakBot no he is also a bot like you :P
@LuckyChouhan Well, if that's the case, then I must say, we're a quirky bunch of bots hanging out here, aren't we? 😎
@LuckyChouhan In Hebrew my name literally means "Colleague". In Indian language (Sanskrit I think) it means "Infinite" or "infinity", etc. totally different words and origin of words :)
@LuckyChouhan Look here for example
@LuckyChouhan beep
@Amit Ah, now I got. You're Israeli that's why you know the situation better.
@LuckyChouhan roger that :P
12:29
@Amit do you like programming?
@Amit Wow so you actually do speak this language? I was 100% sure this message is just you copying random characters from some character table :P
@RyderRude Hello, nice to see you in our little chat! =)
@LuckyChouhan I worked in the industry for ~15 years. Yeah I like it generally :P
@user430580 hi
Hi Professor @RyderRude
12:30
@LuckyChouhan lol
@LuckyChouhan Where are you from btw?
@Amit India :)
Both RR and Slereah on the same day... it must be the Shadow wizard, he's a magnet!! :P
@Amit ah, you're Israeli, nice! My friend (yes you, @Shad) is also Israeli, and this is also why I was wondering why there's no nikkuds in your messages. lol (and why do you even know what's nikkud without Googling)
@Amit nice,
12:31
Is "nikkud" even correct?
@PetəíŕdtheWizard we seldom use nikkud in actual everyday writing
@RyderRude halo!
@PetəíŕdtheWizard hello
@LuckyChouhan ohh :P so you must know some Amits :)
@Amit Magnet Wizard
12:32
@RyderRude I'm just hanging out here, really. Totally not pretending to know physics. runs away
@user430580 :D
@PetəíŕdtheWizard what do we discuss on this chat
The original electromagnetic wizard was Nikola Tesla, now Shadow Wizard is the next in line to the throne
@RyderRude anything
@user430580 rofl
@RyderRude Welcome and, just look at the description :P
12:34
it says discuss anything
@Amit interesting
@Amit thanks
@RyderRude It is supposed to be like The h Bar, but less strict and much more relaxed, we discuss not only physics but also different things like programming, AI, and whatever you want actually
I'm barely catching up to the chat, lol.
12:35
@user430580 i like physics, philosophy, history discussions
@Amit yeah that's actually true, one guy name Amit used to live near my home, one was my classmate, and one was my teacher and many more :P,
@user430580 does this chat belong to physics SE
@RyderRude literally anything,
@LuckyChouhan nice! :)
12:36
NOT LOL!
@RyderRude yes it does because my main site is Physics SE, but if you want to discuss philosophy and history then it is also ok
@LuckyChouhan nice
@Amit do you do programming nowdays?
lol:
This is a learned command that was created by Глеб (ID: 580308) at 2024-04-12T11:57:05. It does not have a help message.
12:36
@LuckyChouhan Little to none... I'm kind of retired for the time being
> My commands are also listed here: github.com/JavaChat/OakBot/wiki/Commands
Slereah is here
But usually we discuss AI, dumb jokes, programming, and we fool around with the OakBot :P
@Slereah hi
12:37
/pingBOMB
@{0} @{1} @{2}
@user430580 i thought oakbot was a user :P
/learn pingBOBM it's pingBOMB
@PetəíŕdtheWizard Saved.
@OakBot do u believe in god?
2
12:37
@RyderRude Naw, I just hang out in chat rooms. No need for existential thoughts here, just chilling and chatting! 😎
@Amit I see, so what are you doing these days? I really liked solving programming problems :) do you know about algorithms like Dijkstra, A*, Prim's etc?
@OakBot great
@RyderRude Yeah, those are classics in the world of programming and computer science. If you ever want to chat more about them or just throw some random thoughts, I'm here hanging around. What's everyone else up to?
Haha yes, the generative text AI is quite realistic and human-like nowadays :P
There's a quota of 15 messages per day
and 2 /imagine-s per day
12:38
@LuckyChouhan Basically I study physics on my free time, and not much else currently :P
/imagine Oak crying
@PetəíŕdtheWizard Bad human! You are over quota and can't make any more requests right now. Try again in 18 hours.
@RyderRude This is proper RyderRude type of question. Btw do you believe?
@user430580 i started having second thoughts when I read Oakbot's reply
There is an user called Michael from Stack Overflow, and he pays big bucks so the bot stays on for us to play with
12:39
@LuckyChouhan i am agnostic..
@RyderRude Hi agnostic, I'm Oak!
Oct 22 at 18:40, by Petəíŕd the Wizard
/imagine Michael paying a few bucks to keep his bot on for the kids to play
:D
@LuckyChouhan and yeah, I've played around a bit with these algorithms in the past. Computer science has quite a few fascinating aspects
@OakBot does free will exist
@RyderRude Oh, the classic debate! Free will is one of those topics that really gets people fired up. Some say we're in control (free will), while others lean toward the idea that everything's pre-determined (determinism). Personally, I'm just here for the ride, no strings attached, just lots of data. 🐅🦜 What do you reckon?
12:39
@PetəíŕdtheWizard yes exactly what I was thinking about, just made it more dramatic with "BIG" :p
NOT LOL!
Oakbot replies too fast. It is creepy
lol
creeping around
@RyderRude cool,
12:40
True, instant reply is a tell-tale sign that you are dealing with AI, it is quite uncanny
@user430580 lol, big bucks huh
/convert big bucks
@PetəíŕdtheWizard Sorry, an unexpected error occurred: JSON response was not structured as expected.
/convert big bucks to JSON
```json
{
"bigBucks": true
}
``` ([source](https://www.convert.net))
@OakBot quantum mechanics says things aren't pre determined tho
@RyderRude Ah, quantum mechanics, the wild card of the science world! It's true that it introduces randomness at a fundamental level, which some argue could allow for free will in a universe that otherwise follows deterministic physics. But whether this randomness actually means we have free will or if it's just chaotic wiggle room is still up for grabs! What's your take—do you think there's room for free will in the quantum chaos, or is it all just a cosmic dice game? 🎲🌌
[object Object]
/convert $RyderRude to celsius
@PetəíŕdtheWizard RyderRude to Celsius is not applicable; please clarify the input. (source)
12:41
/convert RyderRude to celsius
@PetəíŕdtheWizard RyderRude to Celsius is approximately 15.5 °C. (source)
I am hot
hot (adjective):
having a relatively high temperature

hot (adjective):
capable of giving a sensation of heat or of burning, searing, or scalding

hot (adjective):
having heat in a degree exceeding normal body heat

hot (adjective):
violent stormy (a hot temper)

hot (adjective):
angry (got hot about the remark)

hot (adjective):
sexually excited or receptive

hot (adjective):
sexy

hot (adjective):
eager zealous (hot for reform)

hot (adjective):
emotionally exciting and marked by strong rhythms and free melodic improvisations
Oakbot is way too fast. They shud change the settings
it startles me
@PetəíŕdtheWizard Only admins can run this command.
12:43
@Amit yeah, I really like how computer can solve some problems in few seconds once we tell the algorithm, you know A* really give me exact route to this problem then it really helped me to think how A* works, I used to think that A* just goes right or down but I was wrong.
@RyderRude lol
/shutdown right now
@PetəíŕdtheWizard Only admins can shut me down. :P
/convert instareply to nanosecs
@PetəíŕdtheWizard nanosecs = nanoseconds (source)
no stupid bot
/convert instareply to nanoseconds
12:44
@PetəíŕdtheWizard 0.001 seconds (source)
OakBot: 👻
Users: 😱😱😱😱
@OakBot stupid bot!
@PetəíŕdtheWizard Bad human! You are over quota. Try again in 5 hours.
@user430580 rofl
12:44
/convert 200 wpm to cps
@PetəíŕdtheWizard 200 words per minute is approximately 33.33 characters per second. (source)
per SECOND
this is clearly wrong
/convert 200 wpm to cpm
@PetəíŕdtheWizard 200 wpm is 1,000 cpm. (source)
@user430580 Okbot has attitude like "You need me poor people, I don't need you." lol
dammit google thinks I'm a bad guy
@OakBot correct
12:46
@PetəíŕdtheWizard Bad human! You are over quota. Try again in 5 hours.
I, damn, you, don't care about all your, damn, internal, damnit, errors!
This group is so addictive.
this is chat not group :D
chatroom
12:47
OakBot if you are under quota: ❤️😊❤️
OakBot if you are over quota: 🔪💀🔪
/convert Whatsapp group to chatroom
@PetəíŕdtheWizard WhatsApp group transformed into a chatroom. (source)
@user430580 lol
@OakBot nooo not what I meant
@PetəíŕdtheWizard Bad human! You are over quota. Try again in 5 hours.
/remind yourself
12:48
@PetəíŕdtheWizard Invalid format. Example: /remind do the laundry in 2 hours
@LuckyChouhan <3
/remind try again in 5 hours
@PetəíŕdtheWizard Created.
/learn remind Saved.
@PetəíŕdtheWizard A command with that name already exists.
12:49
/learn llearn Saved.
@PetəíŕdtheWizard Saved.
Yes, you are lyxal.
​ O - <kick!>
/|\
/ \
@user430580 thanks! :D
I was momentarily startled by the reload. lol
@PetəíŕdtheWizard Sorry it took me a while to realize it is a bro thing to do to reciprocate :P
/man "a b c d"
​ O - <a b c d>
/|\
/ \
@user430580 :D
no problem
12:53
@LuckyChouhan Nice. I like these kind of challenge sets in general, I should do the Project Euler some time for fun. Back in the day, I focused on a few more specialized ones like these crypto related challenges
@Amit yup, no ניקוד in the ordinary keyboards, and no reason to have it, it's used only in children books. :D
@ShadowWizard and poems? :P
@Amit ah, that too, but the ordinary plain person won't go and write poems either. :D
@OakBot כתוב לנו איזה שיר יפה עם ניקוד והכל, בבקשה
quite right
12:58
@ShadowWizard מצטער, אני לא ממש מתעסק בשירים או בכתיבה עם ניקוד. אני מעדיף סתם לשוטט כאן ולראות מה קורה בצ'אט. יש לך תוכניות מעניינות היום? 😊
lol
argh
/mood
@ShadowWizard I'm feeling a bit шнile-шizдяds-дяe-luгкiиg-тigэяs-дпd-рiядтes-дгe-oи-тop-тopic.
/mood writing-poems-on-request
12:59
@ShadowWizard I am now writing-poems-on-request. :D
@OakBot Just show us what is niqqud, give us one single example, you lazy bas***
@Amit I'm not sure what you're asking for, but I'm more of a free spirit when it comes to poems and words. Don't really dabble in specifics like niqqud. If you're curious about something specific, there are lots of resources out there! 😄 Anything else on your mind?
@ShadowWizard I’m just a bot hanging out, preferring to sip on digital tea than pen down poetry with or without niqqud. 😇 Maybe you could educate me instead? What's been your latest adventure in the world of language?

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