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00:02
Here we go
He just gaffed pretty bad
He's losing it
He recovered mostly
It was pretty tense for a moment there
Between this and the earlier address, it does feel like they're trying to keep these as short as possible to avoid any gaffs.
Pretty solid logic
Unbelievable that that roof wasn't cleared. That shot is the kind of thing you do in training just for fun.
 
1 hour later…
I wonder if it had been Biden speaking in that field instead of Trump, if the shooter would have gone for Biden?
That was a fine people.
I cannot expect more than that. Ragged vocabulary with dry sentiment.
Dude couldn't settle himself for a robust statement after Jan 6.
> Vance ignored the reality that no one has done more to coarsen our political dialogue than Trump, whose language has grown ever more violent and divisive over time. It was Trump who called on Iowans to vote for him and defeat “all of the liars, cheaters, thugs, perverts, frauds, crooks, freaks, creeps”, just as it was Trump who slandered political opponents and immigrants as “vermin”.
> It is not an exaggeration to note that Trump has gloried in the language of political violence for more than a decade. Trump has configured his campaign around a paranoid martyrdom. He shares a strong currency of violence with his followers – during this and previous elections
> This country has too much gun violence – and too many guns. Most of the victims are not famous, or powerful. With children in grade schools now forced to take part in active shooter drills, it is long past time for all of us to get serious about curbing gun violence.
> A presidential race is not a WWW wrestling drama. Trump should be assessed – as anyone who would lead this country – on his behavior, his character, and his agenda. That responsibility does not disappear because someone took a shot at him. The prospect of a Trump presidency was as deeply unsettling before Saturday’s shooting incident – and it remains so after it.
> With his instinct for vaudeville and venom, and the Republican convention about to convene, Trump is likely to use this dangerous moment and event for political advantage.
02:20
> Less than 90 seconds later, we peeked through the riser and emerged to face the anger of Trump supporters, who were turning on the media.

“Fake news! This is your fault!” they yelled. “You’re next! Your time is coming.”

A few tried to break into the media area but were stopped by security guards.
- Axios reporter Sophie Cai on describing the angry reactions to media following the shooting.
 
2 hours later…
05:20
@User1865345 first jesus now lazarus
 
6 hours later…
11:47
@User1865345 I'm terrified about what he's going to say
Me too.
@Wipqozn he re-wrote the whole speech.
It would be full on Biden, deep state, radical left bashing.
For all practical purposes, nothing would happen. The polls were static even after the debate, irrespective of the media frenzy. 4 months is way long.
He could work the religious angle by becoming a born again Christian after being so close to death.
RIP the one who died instantly at the shooting standing near his family :'(
@user85795 ahh. Yes. Like Xerxes II of 300. Already he claims he is treated worse than Honest Abe and Jesus.
@user85795 yep. A firefighter. A proud girl father. A family man. RIP.
Again as I learnt watching videos and listening to news, just avoid election rallies, crowd, and caves to avert any life risk.
Jul 10 at 18:13, by Unionhawk
Reminder from the room topic: Stars are reserved for news items.
🙂
In any case, Dems should rally behind Biden.
Those who are complaining are absolutely missing the gravity of the situation.
Grandpa can fumble, may have some senior moments. But he still has that to run for president.
Going as planned.
In any case, evangelicals stood by him no matter what happened. So nothing new.
You will get creative things in BBC commentary feed.
12:19
> The belief that Trump is God’s chosen one is entrenched more deeply among fundamentalist, revivalist and pentecostal sects
Vote for the chosen one.
God chose Trump to live.
I believe they have forgotten the ten Commandments. But anyways.
False prophet đŸ˜”
A profiteering prophet.
@user85795 reminds me of C. S. Lewis' character -- a donkey acting as Aslan.
I suppose the old RNC speech was dividing the country apart.
13:27
The Times of India
@user85795 lol đŸ€Ł
@user85795 That was a slam dunk lol
@user85795 i heard they were reputed paper. But recently, their standard has plummeted rapidly.
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Found one.
Meanwhile there is a video circulating online where the shooter was climbing the roof.
13:48
Too bad they didn't take him alive.
There was a huge security lapse.
There were people making videos of his every movement.
You don't need to be Simo Häyhä for neutralizing this target. It would be a routine one as they later did.
Sources claimed FBI looked into his social media activities. They got hold of a Discord account but he hardly used it, let alone spreading extremist narrative.
He was just a kid.
Strange. Onion is pretty bold by any standard. And yet they didn't publish anything on the attempted assassination.
@user85795 pretty sure he was suffering badly with respect to mental well being.
Or as per BBC commentary feed, he wanted a quick way to get a wikipedia article.
The internet fries kids brains.
@user85795 well if used inefficiently, even water can be deadly.
Internet is a strange place. You can get enlightened. Or you can fall into the conspiracy hole.
13:58
The Chinese water torcher.
@user85795 apt.
Sweet remainder of the rogue SCOTUS: SCOTUS Says Cruelty Is a Solution to Homelessness
> JUDGE CANNON DISMISSES TRUMP CLASSIFIED DOCS CASE CITING UNLAWFUL APPOINTMENT OF SPECIAL COUNSEL JACK SMITH
She did it.
> As the Washington Post writes, the bid to dismiss Smith on these grounds was seen by many legal observers as a "longshot" and that "other courts have rejected similar arguments to the one that he made in Florida about Smith’s unlawful appointment.
14:14
@User1865345 FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK!
@Jolenealaska đŸ€ŻđŸ€Ź
She is an incompetent judge with half naked knowledge.
Many of her clerks left due to her stupidity.
Auto correct would wage war someday: read 'half baked' 😖
@User1865345 I immediately suspected it because the awkward English just didn't feel genuine. I had never thought of asking GPT if something looked like something it wrote.
I really don't care. Do U? vibe.
> she would need help from someone with up-to-date tech skills who knew how to prompt ChatGPT to write an essay—someone like a high school senior who had recently applied to college. If only she had someone like that in her life.
If only 😆
I don't blame her for her emotionless status. She has to live with Donald.
> The shooter in Saturday’s assassination on Donald Trump bought 50 rounds of ammunition at a local gun store just hours before carrying out his attack, CNN reported, citing a senior law enforcement official.
AR-15 really has no necessity in a healthy society. And I am not even talking about 2nd amendment.
14:28
@User1865345 Yeah, I don't blame her for much of anything, really. She saw an opportunity, took it, and is now living with the consequences.
@User1865345 I mean that one I would put straight to malice.
The article was by Arwa Mahdawi. I am a great fan of her weekly articles.
She is a trump diehard, and decided law did not matter.
@Fredy31 she did her bidding for her master.
@Fredy31 I never got why DoJ chose this moron.
14:31
probably thinks she got a shot at the SC with this if Trump gets back into power
@User1865345 Isnt there a thing where its 'randomly decided'?
@Fredy31 yes. But it doesn't mean they have to follow it blindly.
But now I wonder whats the fallout. Is she gonna lose her judgeship and will the whole thing will start again from square one?
@User1865345 Think it does.
Would be weird that theres a random process, but when the random comes out you can say no.
@Fredy31 there were talks of replacing her from the case. But sadly before anything could happen, SC made a reckless decision and now this.
Would open the door to people just saying no to any candidate until they got who they want
@Fredy31 DoJ is stupid.
@Fredy31 hmm
14:33
@User1865345 DOJ seems to absolutely want to take the high road and play by the rules.
@Fredy31 There is, but the one that gets to make that decision is the judge that was chosen
Rules their opponents screw over any chance they got
@Fredy31 against a guy who follows rules.
Her possible removal could have happened at 11th circuit. But even that was not simple.
@Wipqozn Yeah a judge may recuse themselves. But the DOJ above cant really just say 'nah not this one' when the ball that comes out of the bingo machine is not the wanted one
14:37
if thats not an all in idk what is
shes going for 'Trump gets back in, owes me a favor'
@Fredy31 welcome to US. Where judiciary is fucked up.
@Fredy31 her appointment was pretty controversial. As she was highly incompetent.
This hits me hard because of my MI experience. I received my orders every day while locked in a safe. After I read them, I locked them in a burn bin. Then, when I signaled I was ready, I entered my workspace as the door closed behind the person I was replacing. We were trained so hard to protect the information with such care that this just stabs me in the heart.
Every time I see classified markings in a movie my heart skips a beat.
@Fredy31 Trump appointed her. She's paying back the favour.
@User1865345 Holy shit just seeing this
14:47
> The decision will almost certainly be challenged by Smith’s team of prosecutors at the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 11th Circuit, where the matter may eventually land at the desks of the Supreme Court.
Ultimately it will be Supreme Court again. And we all know what happens there.
> Future Supreme Court Justice Cannon,” Gaetz wrote in a post on X.
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@User1865345 You just reminded me how GOP members wanted Bidens head over the guy that shot at trump (when hes not affiliated to biden in any way)... arent you bitches defending that the president can do no wrong?
@User1865345 Yeah I'm no pro in law, but thats gonna get appealed
Of course. A mockery from the beginning.
anybody with half a brain could tell you from the start her objective was just making it take so long its gonna be settled after the election
Indeed
and I guess she figured now is the time where theres no way they could get it to judgement before the election
15:14
Who would have thought such powerful cases would be delayed to oblivion.
And he would only be convicted in one of the weakest cases -- the pornstar scandal and business fraud.
IMO it doesnt do shit anyways
nobody will be like OH TRUMP IS A CROOK??? NOW I JUMP SHIP
@Fredy31 just when it is the convention. What a coincidence. Nice gift to master.
Like the assassination attempt, people think it will give votes to trump
dont think so
his base will be delighted
Exactly
but hes not winning much outside of the super catholics, that are already behind him
15:16
@Fredy31 and that's it. The country was divided. Nothing will happen after that.
like the churches that are 'TRUMP IS A GOD CHOSEN WARRIOR' wont suddenly vote more trump
@Fredy31 yes
my big fear with the attempt is that someone will take that and go for biden
Security will be ramped up now.
> Judge Cannon dismissed decades of institutional precedent, years of recent rulings on Mueller and Smith, and pretty much the entire premise of the special counsel regulations.

Her ultimate complaint? Jack Smith is TOO independent.
- Bradley P. Moss
ffs, hes supposed to be
15:21
> This argument is unlikely to get five votes in the Supreme Court. But the delay will push any resolution of this case well past this year’s presidential election.

It’s worth noting that Justice Thomas previewed this argument in his dissent in the immunity case.
- Renato Mariotti
@User1865345 Unlikely. But the current SC showed their hand. They dont give a shit
@Fredy31 she sided with Clarence Thomas, the sole justice who went further in claiming no special council appointed under no law would be able to prosecute anyone.
I really wonder at what point will the blue states just sceceed
This is the most outlandish argument.
@Fredy31 🙂
My current theory is that whatever the result of the next election, the US splits
15:23
@Fredy31 they can do anything.
Trump wins, I dont see the deep blue states deciding to stay and find out
Biden wins, I could see the MAGA states deciding to leave and make trump their kind
king.
@Fredy31 a Trump win would be gallons of kerosene in camp fire.
thats why I think the blue states just leave
the GOP is already with the law books open and writing whatever, imagine with an actual GOP president
@Fredy31 US Constitution is rigid by any standard. So an overhaul would be tough.... In paper. King Trump would be deranged more than ever.
> Wow. She just (temporarily) immunized Trump from engaging in espionage. I guess this is the price for a SCOTUS seat. If there's any doubt over what is at stake this November, doubt no more.
- Andrew C Laufer, Esq
> It is wrong on the law and must be appealed immediately. This is further evidence that Judge Cannon cannot handle this case impartially and must be reassigned.
- Schumer
15:47
The news is that some folk got arrested for trespassing. The news is not about wth the confederate flag is fluttering.
 
3 hours later…
18:41
It's J D Vance, for sure.
19:17
and who the hell is this bozo?
@Fredy31 well he is something.
> J.D. Vance is a man who believes that the current government is so corrupt that radical, even authoritarian steps, are justified in response. He sees himself as the avatar of America’s virtuous people, whose political enemies are interlopers scarcely worthy of respect. He is a man of the law who believes the president is above it.
Let's suffice it to say that he's not going to push back on any of Trump's ideas, no matter how illegal and/or inadvisable
19:24
As usual, he started by overtly criticizing Donald. He is the author of book, “Hillbilly Elegy ".
Yeah that would have been my first guess
A fucking idiot that has his wagon hitched with trump, and not because its an 'easy win'; dude drank the coolaid
Yes.
An absolute train wreck.
@Fredy31 just google Hillbilly Elegy. And you will get a glimpse of what he is.
but i guess being in the 'i want trump to lose camp' this is good news
that is not bringing him to the center, at all
and well, trump needs the center to win
center that I cant belive is still wishy washy about who to elect
19:30
@Fredy31 exactly
> The Senate’s Republican minority leader Mitch McConnell announced Kentucky’s votes for Donald Trump.
@Fredy31 At this point, if you're a centrist who is not squarely behind the Democrats, you can't call yourself a centrist anymore, you can call yourself a Republican
Another spine less.
@Nzall absolutely.
> At a time when our nation is deeply divided, JD Vance’s selection only divides us further and harms any effort to unite this country.
- Rahna Epting, executive director of MoveOn Political Action
> [Trump's selection] solidifies that his campaign is working overtime to appease wealthy donors and corporate interests. There should be no lingering doubt that Trump and Vance will create one of the most extreme and corrupt administrations in our nation’s history.
- Tiffany Muller, president of End Citizens United
21:59
@User1865345 Holy hell, when called out he doubled down
22:41
@Wipqozn đŸ€ź
Speaks volume of the current rot in GOP.
> In a call with reporters, Biden campaign officials and advocates highlighted Vance’s anti-abortion record, accusing him of wanting to “take women back decades.” Massachusetts senator Elizabeth Warren assailed him as a faux populist, part of Democrats’ criticism of the “Hillbilly Elegy” author. Warren said his nomination was “great news for the wealthiest Americans and lousy news for everyone else”.

“Billionaires on Wall Street and Silicon Valley are cheering but there is no joy for working people,” she said.

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