good luck q:

Why is this on Philosophy?

> I doubt mathematicians can answer this question.

Gonna have to disagree there

99.999% OF MATHEMATICIANS CAN'T ANSWER THIS QUESTION!!! [CLICK HERE TO FIND OUT MORE!]

It even links to this question on Math.SE

Okay moving from the cloud to not-the-cloud is not as easy as it would seem

I mighta bricked the Debian install

My guess is something in sbin

@Ginger How easy would it be to redo everything from the start?

Trying to weigh up the best way to do this

nontrivial

getting that install working took a lot of time

Okay. I guess I can do a second install, make a list of every package on the droplet, install those on the new one, then copy over home and srv

Only issue is var and etc

Operating systems should really be designed in a way that makes backups/moving to new systems easier

> funny numbers

me when when the numbers are humourous

@PyGamer0 impossible to tell, really

you'd need to have the full audio, because this could be Fallen Down (number 4 in the OST) or Fallen Down (reprise) (number 85 in the OST)

and the difference only occurs after about a minute or so :p

Fan account but still funny lol

@lyxal lol

Once an article told me to run sudo rm -rf /<space>var/log/apt.

yeah, sure.

lol

(btw do not try that out lmao)

ha

ಠ-ಠ

@mathcat me on my way way to run this command

help.

I laugh in the face of rm rf as it sits powerless in my powershell

It has no power here

It is weak

Puny command as it cries in errors

*wasted*

Well did y'all hear, YT has a new CEO

The same guy responsible for removing dislikes, and who is apparently big on the idea of NFTs and blockchain

ಠ_ಠ

oh no

Time to start on my YT successor platform again...

(it was actually pretty cool, it had a modular homepage where you could set up the layout just how you liked it)

oh no

Also I like how every time someone sticks a number after "web" it's a dumber and more meaningless term than last time

web420.69

I wonder what incredibly obscure nerdy topic is gonna suddenly popsci itself into being called "web4" while everyone who knows what they're talking about silently cringes

Maybe quantum cryptography

Y'know it would be surprisingly easy to reinventernet

oh no

Just create an alternative to HTTP, then insert some fancy alternative to HTML+CSS+JS on top

In fact, you wouldn't even need to create an alternative to HTTP, tho it's a mess

You could just create an extension that handles the new filetype for some time, until it gains enough support that browsers officially start supporting it

HTML+CSS+JS has been created in such a patchwork, disordered way that it's full of horrible inefficiencies and an immense pain to work with

And years of adding features without having a plan in place from the start to protect privacy has led to where we are today with tracking and stuff

@RydwolfPrograms but susan

why did you do this to me?

Like, HTML was never meant to create things that look anything close to modern websites

By some miracle browsers have managed to optimize HTML/CSS/JS to the point where they feel as fast as native apps (to the point where nowadays native apps typically are browsers), but imagine how much better things'd be if we'd started out with something more optimal

This is probably an opinion that would be very controversial, but I think the internet should have some sort of built-in "YouTube Premium"

A way for website creators to receive money from people viewing their content

In place of advertising

And maybe some sort of advertisement system built in to the HTML equivalent as well

Here's how I imagine that working

When you install the browser, you'd input your interests, voluntarily. That'd be used to give you more accurate advertisements, and there'd be little to no privacy concerns in giving accurate information for reasons I'll get to

Companies could create ads, which would follow standardized formats, all of which would consist purely of static data (like images, or animated images, or videos for video ads, URLs for when you click it, etc.).

> We believe new technologies like blockchain and NFTs can allow creators to build deeper relationships with their fans.

Something about this just feels wrong.

There would be some sort of distributed ad marketplace within the reinventernet itself

When your browser goes to a page containing an <advertisement> or whatever, it asks the distributed marketplace for a CDN link to the static files for the ad, and if it receives and displays them, it instructs the marketplace to count it and pay the site showing the ad

That way there could be no tracking going on; all the advertiser knows is that their ad is going to be shown to somebody with a certain demographic and set of interests. All the CDNs know is that a certain person requested a specific ad (and they have no incentive to do any sort of tracking).

Idk about y'all but my main issue with ads isn't the tracking, it's the lag

Like ads and trackers slow things down so much

hmm

Well, that would prevent big companies from capitalising on personalised ads.

@RydwolfPrograms is the server move complete? people have been complaining about the distinct lack of Vyxal Bot

No need, user is a great bot.

@mathcat (つ ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)つ

!!/die

aw c'mon

!!/run `sus

(as user) mathcat executed !!/die, dumbnuts

The bot leaves when you do that

@Ginger Did you forget to enclose your code in backticks? Here's a tutorial on how to properly format chat messages, idiot

@user ...and then rejoins, because I have it set to automatically restart in systemd

do not cite the deep magic to me, user; I was there when it was written

I don't use systemd, I use OpenRC

Your systemctl incantations have no effect on me

sudo reboot now go brr

Ah'll be bahk

GOOD MORNING, MOTHERF***ERS

(is that better?)

close enough

@user (I should add a one in 100 chance for it to say that instead of "Well, here we are again" when it joins q:)

!!/run `sus

@Ginger ooh yes

and make it choose one of MORNING|AFTERNOON|EVENING depending on the time

and "CHEERS C***!"

"ADIOS YOU LITTLE S**TS"

Spamton quotes would actually be kinda cool

After all, he's EV3RY BUDDY 'S FAVORITE [[Number 1 Rated Salesman1997]]

@mathcat Mission accomplished :p

I spent pretty much all of yesterday trying to get it to work, and I don't know if I have the time to do that again any time soon

I'm already stretched thin enough as it is given nine college-level classes, a job, CGCC stuff, and having to do stupid chores for hours and hours because my parents are financially irresponsible little fuckers who have no clue how much house they need

I'm also considering just not using that server anymore. It uses a crazy amount of power and produces a ton of noise. If I can get it running in a MicroVM on the RTO server, that'd be a lot more optimal I think (alternatively, I could just leave you on that droplet and pay the $24/mo, or maybe even downgrade to $12/mo if you don't need the full 4 GB of RAM)

I'm using 50W idle with RTOwolf running, plus my WiFi/networking equipment and several other things. With lil' rust wolf idle, it's 160W

@RydwolfPrograms f

yes.

hey @RydwolfPrograms

since it seems copying the droplet over isn't working, do ya think you could just do a plain Debian install and let me handle the rest?

yo

I originally suggested coping bc I thought it was the fastest method for both of us, but apparently not for you

Are you sure you're fine with that? I can leave the droplet up for an indefinite period of time (IIRC it's working well since the memory increase, right?), and I might be able to get something working with a VM

hmm

really, I'm fine with whatever

if it's easier for me to stay on the droplet I can do that; the memory increase worked wonders :p

I think for now just start things back up on the droplet if you haven't already, and since I have the tars from yesterday, I can do some trial and error

got it!

Also, could you monitor the memory usage for the next few days and let me know how much you're needing

how?

If 2 GB would work, I could save a bit of money

@Ginger I think it's /proc/meminfo or something that shows the mem usage

there's probably some open-source tool for logging memory consumption

I'd just do a temporary cron job that logs it to a file once every few minutes

grep /proc/meminfo -e 'MemFree' >> /home/ginger/memuse

@RydwolfPrograms how often do you need these logs?

Doesn't matter much, and even per-minute would be like kilobytes of space at most. Maybe hourly, just whatever's easiest I guess

I'll do per-minute

Sounds good

Your CPU usage has been consistently pretty low (I get a graph of that), so I'm not too worried about the 2 -> 1 vCPUs being an issue

I'm thinking it may just be time to retire the old R610

It's worth less than the drives in it

(significantly less, actually, since I was dumb enough to buy them new)

TIL how to use Meson

it's pretty cool

@Ginger Any plans to use ginger.industries for anything?

Just a reminder it exists

(was scrolling through my domains and saw it :p)

I haven't forgor

I will use it, but not right now

just don't sell it or anything

Gonna have to buy a third round of domains now that I've changed my name again

Thinking about switching from com to xyz

lol

I'm also planning on buying rydwolf.wtf as a redirect to my blog :p