The Sand Trap

1:18 AM

Would you like to spar with me? Because I want to sweep you off your feet

Better

Take notes, people. I know all of y'all are awkward nerds but if you follow my advice, you will be guaranteed to get a significant other before Valentine's Day

Then you can introduce them to Vyxal as a Valentine's Day present

Ginger

~~cool~~

user

You make me feel like a hard drive, 'cause I want you to mount me

Ginger

ಠ_ಠ

user

Your eyes are so unique, which is why they are not a bad way to do biometric identification. I suggest a PIN, though, in case you get blinded

hyper-neutrino

@user .-.

user

1:26 AM

Hey girl, are you an async function? Because I'll always be awaiting you

Ginger

one more pickup line and I will come to your house and force-cancel your task

user

I think I'll continue with the pickup lines in OTTNB

Ginger

good call

user

← 13 messages moved from Vyxal

Are you any? Because you'd be anyone's type

Ginger

*Any

user

1:30 AM

TS uses any iirc

Feel free to replace with whatever language you like

You make me feel like a hitman because I want to take you out

Hey girl, are you ten pounds of sugar? Because you're sweet and contributing to my rapidly decaying health

Okay I think I lost that creative juice already

Hey girl, how much do you weigh? Because if it's over 5 pounds, I probably can't pick you up

Are you Jabba the Hutt? Because you are out of this world

Rydwolf Programs

2:24 AM

Are you an optical nerve? Because I can't take my eyes off you

Are you an airplane crashed on a desert island? Because you make me want to take long walks on a beach

Unrelated String

8:54 AM

@user ~~just don't do this on a haskell programmer if they're a top~~

lyxal

9:23 AM

Dang girl, are you a robber? Because I don't know who tf you are and how tf you got into my home. Gtfo before I call the police.

mathcat

12:48 PM

LETS GOO

Finally

opencv works!

parz

‘Lo.

mathcat

h.

parz

Hello, frenz, and [[WELCOME]] to the [[PIPIS]] show!

mathcat

don't forget to subscribz.

parz

Todeh, frenz, we will be selling a [[PROGRAMMER SOUL]]

Freshly ground from [[WRITING CODE]] on a [[NOELLE HOLIDAY]]

lyxal

12:55 PM

That's a real [[BIG SHOT]] move, kid

parz

And to make sure it’s [[GROUND TO A PASTE]], they were [[USING C]]

lyxal

@parz how much [kromer] do you [r3equire]?

parz

@lyxal enough to make a [[MILLIONAIRE]] cry, at the low low prince of [[¥1000]]!!!1!1!

lyxal

hmm. I might [yes deal] then

parz

Just give me all your [[MONEIS INFROMASHUN]] then, and we have a [[yes deal]]!

lyxal

1:01 PM

I have a [ring of thorns]

does that count?

parz

[[IF YOU CAN BID IT]] [[YOU CAN BUY IT]]

I vote to call this place “The Nth Byte”

Ginger

1:26 PM

ohohoho

YOU WANNA BE A [Big Shot], HUH KID?

Ginger

2:29 PM

@RydwolfPrograms could you help me with something?

Rydwolf Programs

Sure

Ginger

@hyper-neutrino has agreed to transfer ~~his [[Savings]]~~ ownership of the Vyxal Bot account to me, but he needs an email to use

so would you mind if I used an amidst.dev one?

Rydwolf Programs

Sure, go ahead

Ginger

FINALLY!!! I KNEW YOU WOULD [[Request Accepted]]

@hyper-neutrino HERE I GO!!! BEGIN THE [[Transfer]]

hyper-neutrino

._.

Ginger

2:32 PM

~~clearly you're not a [Big Shot]~~

anyway, just set the email to vyxalbot@amidst.dev

brb

Rydwolf Programs

@mathcat :D

mathcat

2:46 PM

yup, setting up poetry rn

Ginger

@mathcat :D

mathcat

I probably won't be able to do much today (cause personal stuff), but I will write some boilerplate code

Ginger

@RydwolfPrograms when will your server be ready? I just had to wait around 30s for Vyxal Bot 2 to start on my current droplet :p

Rydwolf Programs

rto.community?

Ginger

yup

Rydwolf Programs

2:54 PM

Or the old one I was gonna let you use if MediaWiki ended up being too slow

Ginger

wait

@RydwolfPrograms that one

I've got about 1500ms ping for the droplet rn :p

oh wait, it's 2000ms now

Ginger

3:10 PM

@RydwolfPrograms the Python language server crashed and now performance is great :/

Rydwolf Programs

You're probably running low on RAM yeah

Ginger

I very much am

Rydwolf Programs

Should be two to four days before I get the server online. I'll need to Gingerproof it (i.e. remove all the backups of my personal information I store on it :p), but you should be good once I finish that

Ginger

@RydwolfPrograms I had to shut down most of the services for the wiki to even have enough RAM for a stable VSCode connection :b

Vyxal Bot

@Ginger please confirm the login in your email

Ginger

3:13 PM

@RydwolfPrograms forward it to wilford.izavier@moabuild.com

(it's a temp email)

Vyxal Bot

I think you need to send me the link so I can open it in my browser; you can DM me on Discord if you have it @ HyperNeutrino#1759 and if not you can just flag a post of yours and put the link there I guess lol

Rydwolf Programs

Sure it is, Wilford :p

Ginger

*cough*

Rydwolf Programs

Got the link, lemme try to get Discord open

Forwarded it too

@Ginger Since it'll only be a few days before you can move over to my self-hosted server, I'm upgrading you to a better droplet (since it's hourly, and three days won't cost much)

How much RAM do you think you'll need?

Ginger

hmmmmmmmmmmmmm

hyper-neutrino

3:18 PM

okay how do I give you the password ginger

Ginger

@hyper-neutrino you can send it to that temp email ig

I'll change it

hyper-neutrino

oh right

wilford?

Ginger

@RydwolfPrograms maybe double the current amount?

@hyper-neutrino randomly generated, idk

hyper-neutrino

no i mean like, you want me to send it to wilford right

Ginger

yes

also, wow sechat v2 is fast

it's like 3x faster starting up than the older version

Rydwolf Programs

3:20 PM

Ginger

> Gi|\|ger

Rydwolf Programs

@Ginger Your droplet's gonna have to be shut down for a few minutes, is that fine?

Ginger

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

one second

ok, do it

@RydwolfPrograms I will say, this Wilford guy has an excellent mustache

Rydwolf Programs

You now have 2 vCPUs and 4 GB of RAM

Have fun :p

Ginger

cool!

...are you sure it's fully working?

vscode says the tunnel isn't online

oop nvm

yeah this is much better

~~it's almost half the performance of my Raspberry Pi!~~

hyper-neutrino

3:27 PM

sent the email

Ginger

nice

dammit captcha

Rydwolf Programs

I am going to train a markov chain on names

I will generate names people have never had before

Ginger

@RydwolfPrograms well keep in mind most people don't name their child "yOroeop refwpeRInG"

Rydwolf Programs

No no no these will be sensible names we just haven't discovered yet

parz

I’m back.

Ginger

3:40 PM

no, you're parz

lmao gottem

parz

@RydwolfPrograms is “Lamo” (pron. lah-MOH) viable?

Do you want me to draw @lyxal

Rydwolf Programs

Well, the first random name I got is:

"Za Brais"

Ginger

._.

Rydwolf Programs

"Polaneellemileren Kan Ro"

hi guys my name is "Kar"

Ginger

you should set up a temporary email service and use these names as the addresses

Rydwolf Programs

3:46 PM

"Kranon Tonnz" actually sounds like a real name

As does "Malia Garaydonn Yererich"

parz

Let me try

Ginger

how'd you make the chain so fast?

parz

I’m using a premade chain (lol im trash at programming)

Rydwolf Programs

I just built a map from tokens to lists of all following tokens, transformed that to the counts, then used a weighted random

Ginger

wow

parz

3:49 PM

daaaaaaaaaang

Nguuqsuustuu Taarkki?

Elearbed Shram?

Rydwolf Programs

Since I have such a big dataset, I might be able to make something smarter than a markov chain

parz

Maybe

[send-me-teh-codez]

mathcat

oof

Opencv is working globally, but not in the poetry venv

Ginger

ooh, I bet I know what it is

parz

@mathcat oof

mathcat

3:59 PM

@Ginger ?

Ginger

@mathcat run poetry config --local virtualenvs.options.system-site-packages true and try again

parz

Word of the Day (WotD): whyo: a gang or band member

mathcat

@Ginger nope, that's the problem, I couldn't install opencv as a site package, so I had to manually build it

... wait

parz

language

mathcat

oops nvm I'm dumb

Ginger

4:03 PM

lmao

parz

languageeeeee

Ginger

also fwiw if you have a wheel for opencv Poetry should be able to install it directly

also also IIRC there are premade wheels for OpenCV on Piwheels

mathcat

wait what that

Oh right

19 hours ago, by mathcat

apt install python3-opencv works, but smh python throws a module not found error.

Ginger

have you tried adding piwheels as a poetry source yet

mathcat

no, how do you do that?

Ginger

4:08 PM

poetry source add piwheels https://piwheels.org/simple

do note that Poetry might not look there for the OpenCV wheels first

if it doesn't lmk

Rydwolf Programs

"Tren Borge Nguis"

"Jami Patoebarr"

parz

If you ever want to get beaten up by a bunch of graphic designers, try removing the serifs from Times New Roman and adding them to Comic Sans.

Rydwolf Programs

"Gaberenca"

Not sure these are any better :p

I should train this on some English text

parz

CV to the rescue!

Or linguistics!

Or anything!

Rydwolf Programs

> But unks anint tand thaturfuses whaves the bonessid the ing

Yeah it's as bad as I expected :p

parz

4:16 PM

It’s readable.

You can read the words.

But drop the -ing at the end.

Most verbs or whatever you’re trying to do should just stay unconjugated for now.

Try making Latin names, that seems much easier.

mathcat

> × pip subprocess to install build dependencies did not run successfully.

Rydwolf Programs

Wow this is readable:

> “I somethers mesailling took the

parz

“mesailling”

That’s actually incredible though.

I wonder if we could train it in l33tsp34k

mathcat

4:31 PM

This is really weird - python knows where cv2 is located, but whereis opencv-python or pip show opencv-python doesn't return anything.

Ginger

@mathcat are you running it inside your Poetry venv? try poetry shell

mathcat

yeah, but poetry-python can't even import cv2

I'm just trying to find out where my build is located

you know what? I'm going to ditch poetry too.

At least a version of opencv works, that is sufficient.

Although then my project will look super unprofessional.

Seggan

@Ginger ~~if you want it even faster switch to a static compiled/jit language~~

Ginger

[VyxalBot2] ERROR: An error occured while processing event c9217d90-abbc-11ed-80ea-9c94aad89189!
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/home/ginger/VyxalBot2/vyxalbot2/__init__.py", line 97, in onHookRequest
    await self.ghRouter.dispatch(event, self.gh)
  File "/home/ginger/.cache/pypoetry/virtualenvs/vyxalbot2-24NFkHEU-py3.9/lib/python3.9/site-packages/gidgethub/routing.py", line 89, in dispatch
    await callback(event, *args, **kwargs)
  File "/home/ginger/VyxalBot2/vyxalbot2/__init__.py", line 162, in onReleaseCreated

> sechat.errors.OperationFailedError

> True

something ain't right here

Seggan

4:50 PM

mm yes

mathcat

There is one thing I haven't tried yet, opencv-python-headless

smh those binaries don't seem to be debian compatible

Ginger

5:05 PM

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Rydwolf Programs

7:41 PM

As if school lunch couldn't get any worse I just stood in line for 20m only for them to run out right when I got to the front

So I had to go get in another 10m long line to get...

"pasta"

Our school food is literally nutrient paste rearranged into things that look like food

It's all performative

The bread is not bread, the pasta is not pasta, and the meat is definitely not meat

user

@UnrelatedString sorry, i don’t get the joke

mathcat

Aaaaah

user

I thought haskell didn’t have a single base type

mathcat

HELP

Rydwolf Programs

When you combine incredibly poorly thought through (lack-of-)nutrition requirements with whoever-bids-the-least government contracting bullshit you get modelling clay with amino acids stirred in

user

7:43 PM

@RydwolfPrograms even the bread is fake? How

How is that even legal lol

Even in Texas

mathcat

Rydwolf Programs

The bread might be bread but it's never the right kind

mathcat

what is this??

Rydwolf Programs

The rolls are like, this oily 90% air stuff

parz

i like bread

yummy

user

7:44 PM

@mathcat Display manager not working?

What did you do last time?

Rydwolf Programs

The hamburger buns are the same but spongier and slightly more dense, but they taste burnt

mathcat

I have no idea what happened to my rpi

Rydwolf Programs

Despite being literally cold and wet

user

Can you go out and buy your own lunc?

mathcat

@user Install a module, I was at 1GB storage space so should be fine

Wait

Rydwolf Programs

7:45 PM

@mathcat What's wrong with it? The cursor being on the wrong line?

mathcat

I uninstalled libgl1

Rydwolf Programs

Oh wait do you usually have a GUI

user

@RydwolfPrograms i assume instead of a terminal they get a gui usually

mathcat

Yeah

user

Yeah

Rydwolf Programs

7:45 PM

@user No, closed campus

user

@RydwolfPrograms my hs had a closed campus and plenty of people would get star bucks all the time

mathcat

@mathcat did I mess up?

Rydwolf Programs

Thanks to Uvalde

user

You can probably sneak out and get something that won’t kill you

Rydwolf Programs

How would I get back in

user

7:47 PM

Unless the punishment for sneaking out is harsh

@RydwolfPrograms knock hard on the doors until someone lets you in

Or get food for other people and have them open the door

Rydwolf Programs

There are no exterior facing doors, except the very front ones where you go through a security airlock thingy

user

You know what, nvm, i shouldn’t be encouraging kids to break rules

Rydwolf Programs

All the other ones go into a secure courtyard

user

@RydwolfPrograms tf

Are You in a prison or school

Rydwolf Programs

Welcome to America

Both

They're even funded the same way

Our school was built with tons of open areas inside for collaboration and stuff

And we can't use any of them now

Our classroom doors have to remain shut and locked

All of the classrooms have big glass panels that can slide out of the way instead of walls, so you can see out into the "flex space" and open the wall to be a part of it. They've been closed and covered with blinds the whole time I've been here

The team of architects came to my elementary school and showed us the renders, talking about how once we got to high school we'd be in this cool new environment that would totally catch on and change school forever

(it hadn't been built yet)

They apparently didn't realize they were designing a prison

In fact, the trend currently is adopting techniques from prisons in elementary schools more directly, like limited lines of sight, and elevated areas with high visibility across the entire campus

Schools should not be prisons and they should not be designed around violence

Games, Schools, and Worlds Designed for Violence

►

hyper-neutrino

7:58 PM

well, the alternative would be fixing the society to not be designed around violence, and that'd obviously be too much to ask

damn so they decided the school-prison pipeline wasn't enough and just made school prisons too?

user

@hyper-neutrino Well duh, it'd be so hard to stop letting people buy guns, much easier to redesign schools and let a handful of kids die here and there

Rydwolf Programs

Well there's also the question of whether architectural choices like those actually prevent much violence, and whether the small amount it may contribute is worth the psychological harm of people living with constant visible reminders of the danger they face just by going to school

@user Well the redesigning is to limit violence

user

I didn't say otherwise

hyper-neutrino

have you seen the back-to-school ad about school shootings? i'll find it in a bit but i think it does a great job showing just how fucked up everything is where students bear the psychological load of america being unwilling to acknowledge that their problem is unique among developed nations and it's not something that "nobody can do anything about"

Rydwolf Programs

@user Oh misread

hyper-neutrino

8:01 PM

Back-To-School Essentials | Sandy Hook Promise

►

Rydwolf Programs

@user Well it's different people making those decisions

Trying to change schools to limit violence is more of a cry of helplessness than anything

A last-ditch attempt to protect people at whatever the cost in the face of a threat the people in charge do not care to fix

user

Right, yeah

Rydwolf Programs

(of course, there's probably right-wing school admins who see it more like that, but I'd assume they tend to be more left-leaning)

The solution is of course to keep giving school police departments grenade launchers and MRAPs

user

*teachers

Rydwolf Programs

cbsnews.com/news/…

They returned the grenade launchers apparently

@user Oh yeah, that brilliance

Just put more guns in school, that'll solve it

user

8:46 PM

@Steffan Could you give me a hint on how to take input in Scala on week.golf?

Iterator.continually(io.StdIn.readLine).takeWhile(_!=null) times out on both week.golf and ATO even though I found an answer on SO using exactly that approach

object?extends App{print(io.Source.stdin.getLines.flatMap(s=>1.to(365,s.toInt)).toSet.size)} works on my laptop but week.golf says it times out

(also times out on ATO)

Maybe my computer is secretly a Cray supercomputer and can do infinite loops in 2 seconds

Unrelated String

@user undefined

and the type of looping/error computations that can be treated like any normal type because it doesn't matter anyways is called "bottom" :P

DLosc

9:04 PM

@RydwolfPrograms Meat cube!

Rydwolf Programs

One of my favorite things is the advertising/interior design/decoration materials from the new contractor my school district hired for the food

It includes these big like, crossword-looking things with food-related words

But I have no clue who picked the words because they're hilarious

One of them is like, big nebulous things like "food", "yum", "italian", etc., but the biggest font is reserved for..."CILANTRO"

One has "FAST" in huge font. (Presumably they expect the school to distribute the food in an efficient manner). But it is a pretty accurate description of what the food makes me want to do.

> Sodexo is in the process of rolling out a new meal approach targeted specifically at high schools that utilizes lessons learned from extensive research into GenZ taste and retail dining preferences. Called Taste4, it incorporates GenZ’s school lunch preferences for fresh food, flavorful options and spending time with friends in a fun environment.

lol

They sure did a great job

Idk how that's supposed to work given that all they provide is the food and it's the same exact food the other contractors provided

Like indistinguishable

They use the same recipes

And the menu is unchanged

DLosc

@UnrelatedString I don't think the Toy Story trilogy needs another movie :P

@user I'm literally in Kansas right now ಠ_ಠ

user

Sorry, I don’t make the rules

—-but if i did you wouldn’t be on any map—-

@DLosc name one cool thing about kansas and you shall be spared

DLosc

9:19 PM

See, this is really just a mind-reading challenge, since I don't know what you'll consider cool

user

No, you’re just stalling, any deserving state would have several things that most Americans would consider cool

DLosc

Well, most Americans would consider theme parks cool, but I don't, so...

I like the system of walking/biking trails that extends for miles along a couple of creeks in the area.

user

Okay, earhart was from kansas

DLosc

Also Dorothy Gale

user

I thought the whole point of that was that kansas was the polar opposite of oz: plain, drab, boring

thefactfile.org/kansas-facts

I guess their definition of interesting doesn’t match up with mine

DLosc

9:25 PM

@user ~~Well I was going to mention that Dwight Eisenhower was from Kansas but that would just be redundant now~~ :P

user

Apparently kansas is flatter than a pancake but I don’t even know what that means

@DLosc sorry, i don’t know enough about history, what’s the joke?

Kansas’s flag seems a little overdone, but who am i to complain, i live in Maryland. Our flag is reason enough to sell off the whole state to someone else

DLosc

@user Eisenhower seems like a pretty plain/boring president. But maybe that's just because I don't know very much about him.

user

Ah, ok

DLosc

He was responsible for sending the 101st Airborne to protect the Little Rock Nine, so that's interesting.

user

Oh nice

Rydwolf Programs

9:30 PM

Eisenhower made the speech about the military-industrial complex and is responsible for our highway system

user

Was he the one that both parties wanted?

Rydwolf Programs

He's also on the half-dollar and was the WWII five star general

user

@RydwolfPrograms which speech is that?

Rydwolf Programs

Idk, I think he was one of the first to bring up the military-industrial complex as a thing tho

Like, worth the public's consideration/a threat in any way

Almost done with P4C4 of Nitro and it's gonna be a good one

I've actually had some fun with the drawing

DLosc

> Original Home of Pizza Hut
This is one of the most interesting facts about Kansas.

5

Uhh...

Rydwolf Programs

9:32 PM

lol

user

Yeah that’s not a very good list

Most of those are pretty boring facts

DLosc

I do like sunsets and sunflowers

user

9:46 PM

Right, and it's also nice that the people in Kansas are friendly (or at least perceived that way), but it's not super interesting

I wanna hear about Town Hall Crocodile Attack Incidents and UFO landings

@UnrelatedString I wouldn't say that's a top type, it's just polymorphic, right? Haskell may have a bottom but it doesn't seem to have a top

Unrelated String

10:48 PM

oh i see yeah no

my original quip is in the sense of "anyone's type" = bottom = opposite of top

user

Oh

Steffan

11:13 PM

@user io.Source.stdin.getLines gets all lines

> and ATO

ATO scala is broken, and Weekgolf has strange issues with random timeouts

Also it's scala 3 so you can do @main def f=...

Thanks for the solution lol, that's a lot shorter than what I had

You're not supposed to share your solutions until the week is over

Nvm that produces the wrong answer anyway

Looks like you misunderstood the question lol.
Also you can add solutions to the previous problems too

Rydwolf Programs

@user Hate when that happens

Keep accidentally getting crypto miner viruses and crashing the whole blockchain

The other day I accidentally sat on my computer's reload key and DDoSed the entirety of Google

user

11:43 PM

@Steffan Oh, I printed out the Scala version and it said 2.13.8

@Steffan lmao

> that's a lot shorter than what I had

Easy way to get shorter solution: "Solve" a different problem entirely :P

Still getting timeouts on week.golf even though it doesn't timeout on my own computer :(

DLosc

@user You're giving me flashbacks to a research project in college...

user

Oh no, did you spend a bunch of time researching the wrong thing?

week.golf times out even for @main def m=print(io.Source.stdin.getLines). I give up

Unrelated String

damn

user

@Steffan I know now we're not supposed to share solutions, but I literally have no idea how to get this to work, so here you go: @main def m=print(io.Source.stdin.getLines.map(s=>1.to(365,s.toInt).toSet).reduce(_&_).size) (no idea if this works either :P)

It's possible that it just takes a really long time to start up the Scala container and then compile stuff lol

DLosc

@user I thought I had found a polynomial-time graph-coloring algorithm that was producing pretty good results (not optimal, I didn't expect that because it's NP-hard, but pretty good). It took me a while to figure out that the results it was producing were not always valid colorings. :P

Unrelated String

11:58 PM

lmao nice

user

The week.golf developer is unnecessarily secretive - it took a long time to get them to upload their code to GitHub, and even now, the latest update is from like 3 months ago, even though new languages have been added since then. So I can't see if there's anything wrong with the Scala container's setup

rip

Did you find a way to recover from that?

DLosc

@user Sort of--I could convert the results to a valid coloring by adding more colors, but then the results weren't very good anymore.

user

:|

DLosc

It happens.

user

Hopefully you were on a team where you could ~~shift the blame onto someone else~~ spread the blame equally

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