@Steffan Iterative tricks

Lynn has 16

And since the golf that got me from 16 to 15 was fairly obvious, I think we have mostly different things

I'm looking for a single-byte command that'll turn 12 into [12] and also [12] into [12]. is that a thing?

Not that I know of...

I suspect you have a similar thing to me :P

oh huh, well you try replacing the whole thing with Ė :)

okay wait what

I see, ⌈⌊ṫ and Ė combined with wf (to do that thing I need) comes out to the same length

so I am missing a byte somewhere else

Do you start at 0?

not sure what that means

I start at [] [a] and do something to it n times

annoyingly, on ATO I don't have to tuck the [] and I can save 2 bytes, maybe because I'm putting the input only on STDIN there, whereas weekgolf also supplies it as a command line argument or something?

ok I got a 15 using slightly better stack manipulation

Ok are yall using OEIS formulas or just the normal way

From y'alls spoilers, I got 19

(replacing ⌈⌊÷ with Ė)

@Lynn it's much easier to use the vyxal.pythonanywhere.com, it has a keyboard and stuff

I guess I need to try something else. I'm using binomial coefficient formulas

I'm just summing lists

Same

I suspect we have the same thing

@Lynn nvm, I start at 0 [a]

I kind of have an idea what you have

Having each row as its own on the stack, using for loops

Correct

Then using Ȯ for the c-1, r-2 case, and duplicate for the other two

You can just consume the row on that case

Surely ȮȮ: can be shorter. I got 18 now

Got 16

Nice

It feels like the first 5 bytes can be shorter, but can't find it

If we had a one-byte prepend zero builtin, I could

Have you got a 15 yet?

@Seggan because it happened in the week.golf discord server