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3:50 AM
WHY ISN'T THE PRINTER WORKING
ok i turned it off and back on and now it works
 
@NoHaxJustRadvylf looks like your sister won :p
 
4:50 AM
macarons are fucking hard
she could easily have done even worse
 
5:01 AM
^
 
The :P means it was a joke
Y'all nerds humourn't
 
6:01 AM
 
Lol
 
 
10 hours later…
4:15 PM
hi
this is ginger
I have a... tiny bit of a problem
I may or may not have fucked up doing a RPi update and locked myself out of my system, possibly reformatting my SD card
I'm typing this from the browser built into NOOBS
on this account because this browser doesn't work with Google Auth for some reason
send help
 
sounds like a reflash / install of your OS is needed :P
 
wait, you're from DBA.SE right?
 
me? nope.
 
hm, I remember you from that time radvylf dumped a bunch of messages into the DBA.SE main room tho
regardless
 
well i am a diamond moderator, when people start throwing flags, diamond mods get summoned
 
4:19 PM
ah
 
that applies on chat.stackexchange.com - any diamond moderator from any site can respond to chat flag
home site is askubuntu.com but i lurk in multiple places
TNB has nice people so :)
 
well thx
I still have hope bc NOOBS tells me I have 12GB of space on my card - the same amount I had before this debacle
so my data is there, I just need to make NOOBS realize I have an OS installed
how do I do this? fuck knows
 
(might want to tone down the swearing though, just saying)
 
if you thought you had lost your data forever you'd swear too
but sorry
 
points at backups
 
4:21 PM
will do
 
i'm in IT, rule #1 is keep backups
 
this is where I'd put my backups... if I had any
 
points at the 10s of hard drives that hold all the backups of his critica linfrastructure
 
points at the single 128GB MicroSD card holding their life's work
so, my plan is simple. I think this issue is due to me forgetting to put a file called installed_os.json in the boot parition during the update
I just need to figure out how to get it in there
I have an idea. It is stupid and will likely fail. I will do it anyway.
 
I would suggest removing the SD card, copying its contents, then trying stupid stuff
 
4:26 PM
If I could do so I would have done so by now
but I can't
 
36 messages moved from The Nineteenth Byte
 
so my plan is basically use this clunky ass browser to download the file into the boot partition and restart
 
What are you booted into right now?
 
NOOBS
 
Is it on the same SD card, like, another partition?
 
4:28 PM
yes
ok plan wouldn't work
 
NOOBS is like an easy to start with RPi boot environment
 
Seems like you could mount the other partition, and copy all of the important data into google drive or some similar thing
 
you can set up a new OS
 
for some unknowable reason NOOBS mounted the main partition
 
or you can boot to it for recovery
but it's almost like chainloading an OS
 
4:29 PM
but I need boot partition to be mounted
and I do not have access to a commandline from NOOBS
 
can't install new OS bc only have 12GB of space on card
also since NOOBS thinks I don't have an OS it would likely overwrite my data
 
What OS is NOOBS based off of? I'd assume it's some sort of Linux, in which case you could surely access a command line somehow
 
hm
in case you want to know why I did this to myself: got new Pi4 8GB and needed to upgrade NOOBS to make it work
 
Yeah I would really recommend finding another computer, even if you have to go to a public library or something, and making a backup of that SD card
 
4:35 PM
right
will see what can do
but it's not a day with Ginger without some horrendous bodge that threatens your data and your sanity!
oh, this is very interesting! this browser has an option to "use an external downlaod program"
so maybe I can paste a command to mount /boot into there!
more research needed
aw fuc read-only filesystem
okay guess I get to do the boring solution and find another computer
I'll let yall know if it works
signing off
 
5:18 PM
@ThomasWard (especially in the shadows) [ • •]
@GingerBot hope you manage to restore your data!
 
 
3 hours later…
8:21 PM
Just read the most underwhelming news article in history
 
"Hoover Dam explodes" sounds like it'd be really bad but it's just a transformer on fire lol
 
Hi
I have not in fact fixed it
Do any of you kind humans have a raspberry pi with NOOBS installed?
Running Raspbian?
@RadvylfPrograms you have a pi right?
 
Yeah, no NOOBS though
 
8:30 PM
I need the help of someone who satisfies the above conditions
Sad
My plan is to copy the NOOBS settings from a functional Pi into my broken one
 
You can probably google the default ones, right?
 
You're not going to believe me when I say this: I didn't think to try that
nothing
The issue is that the settings are a folder and not just one file
Please spread the word of my plight
Meanwhile I will try another solution
OOH
I can actually get to a shell from NOOBS!
Okay I have logged in as root
...now what
 
8:46 PM
Well first, I'd back it up to google drive or some other online service
Then you could probably just reinstall the OS and partially restore from backup if it overwrites any data
 
I don't think drive can hold 100gb of data
Also that would take a long time
 
Oh, hm. You have 100gb of un-backed-up data?
 
It's not quite that much but yea
That's why I want to not have to reinstall
And all my data is there!!! I just need to fix NOOBS and we're good
But the fixing is the problem
So, I have come up with an idea
Install raspbian using NOOBS on spare SD card and copy the settings over
But that would also be slow
So if anyone has a pi that satisfies the above criteria please tell me!
@JoKing hi do you have pi
 
yeah, i have a spare one lying around
 
Does it have NOOBS
As summarized above I need to restore the /settings from a functional pi
 
8:53 PM
dunno, been saving it for a project
 
If you turn it on and it says "press shift to enter recovery" it has NOOBS
 
Why don't you just download a second .img of NOOBS?
 
Can't
 
It's not on the site anymore
 
8:54 PM
I'm sure there's a copy of it somewhere
 
NOOBS is ostensibly deprecated
Maybe I can find a copy
 
No img just zip
 
maybe the real NOOBS were the friends we made along the way
 
No, but the settings folder doesn't magically appear. It's in the repo somewhere.
 
8:57 PM
It does magically appear, actually
NOOBS generates a per-os settings folder upon install
and when I foofed up earlier it deleted it as part of its setup process
 
Do you need NOOBS?
 
Oh wait a sec
 
It seems like it'd save you a lot of trouble to just install Raspbian directly
 
AHA FOUND AN IMG
ok, flashing now
 
Wait
Flashing?
Make sure not to overwrite anything, I was gonna suggest mounting it as a loop
 
9:00 PM
...wat
I haven't started yet, fortunately
What is this "loop" of which you speak?
 
mount -o loop xyz.img /mnt
Mounts the .img so you can poke around and take what you need
 
well what I really need is to RUN NOOBS to generate the settings
Thanks for the help tho
nvm it wasn't the img
:/
 
9:34 PM
Okay, I have successfully created a new settings directory
Copying now
Update: turns out it wasn't correct, trying again
hey @GingerBot should've asked earlier but are you okay with me possessing your body?
@GingerBot yea no problem bro go ahead
Ok nice
Alright install complete, let's yoink these files
Here we go
Oh shid
It's stuck in a boot loop
 

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