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@porridgemathematics no
I know ideals: prime, maximal and principal
some different types of rings.
14:11
ok, so your ring is isomorphic to $\mathbb{Z}[X] / (X^2 + 1, 2X+2)$?, and $\mathbb{Z}[X]/(2X+2)$ is isomorphic to $\mathbb{Z}/(2) [X] \oplus \mathbb{Z}[X]/(X+1)$, the right summand is isomorphic to $\mathbb{Z}$, and now quotienting by $X^2+1$ gives us makes the left summand $\{ai + b : (a,b) \in \{0,1 \} \}$ with multiplication mod $2$, so four elements, and on the right you get $\mathbb{Z}_{2}$
so overall your thing should have $8$ elements
technically i dont think this solution requires any knowledge about stuff you haven't come across
besides that quotienting by $(a,b)$ means you can do so 'consecutively'
so for the first isomorphism, the reason its iso to your ring is $\mathbb{Z}[i]$ is the same as $\mathbb{Z}[X] / (X^2+1)$ which you can basically see by long division, and then by quotienting out $2X+2$ its akin to quotienting $\mathbb{Z}[i]$ by $2i+2$
and for the direct sum decomposition, its just the chinese remainder theorem
but idk if you have learned that
oh crap, this is probably wrong again, i dont think I can use the CRT here
ok, so we cant use CRT, then maybe we can check $\mathbb{Z}[X]/(2X+2) \rightarrow \mathbb{Z}/(2)[X] \oplus \mathbb{Z}[X]/(X+1)$ is anyway an isomorphism, this boils down to showing if an integer polynomial is divisible by both $2$ and $X+1$, that it is divisible by $2X+2$, i think that holds because if $P = (X+1)Q$, then mod $2$, $P mod 2 = (X+1)(Q mod 2) = 0$ in $\mathbb{Z}/(2) [X]$ which is an integral domain, so $Q mod 2 = 0$
sorry - ignore what im saying, im clearly way too rusty lol, the CRT map is always injective...
14:38
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@porridgemathematics: I posted my answer to the question just now. Please take a look.
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A: If $I=\langle 2+2i\rangle$, then how many elements are there in $Z[i]/I$?

KoroSince $4$ is in $I$, it follows that $4+I=0+I$. Dividing $a$ and $b$ by $4$ by Euclid's lemma, one gets the remainders $0\le a'<4$ and $0\le b'\lt 4$ and $a',b'$ can't be both zero because $a+ib$ is not in $I$. So the following holds: $a+ib+I=a'+ib'+I$ Possible values for $(a',b')$ are $15$. Now,...

there is only one minor problem with the answer. That's fixable and doesn't affect much the solution. I'll do it some other time.
you mean 16 values right
No
the quotient ring will have 8 elements.
why would the possible values be 15 apriori?
yeah im referring to the sentence where you say the possible values for $(a',b')$ are 16
because of a',b'
14:46
and then eliminate $8$
the minor problem I was referring to earlier is because: a',b' were chosen in a certain way (that a'+b'i is not in I).
a',b' can be anything in {0,1,2,3} though, right?
wouldnt that give you 16 possibilities?
So I should have said: total number of possible values of (a',b') is 15-1=14.
but that's no problem as I took care of it in the final addition.
:)
14:48
yeah, it doesn't matter
that's why I said -minor.
looks fine to me, i guess you would need to show that you cant remove more duplicates
so far unless im mistaken you've shown there are at most 8 elements?
yes.
@porridgemathematics please note that it is trivial now to show that there are atleast 8 elements.
Hi
if $X\times Y$ is a topological manifolds
must $X$ and $Y$ be topological manifolds?
yeah, its just a computation
14:51
I mean we can take advantage of the fact that 2 is not in I.
to drastically reduce computations.
one question from an exam: K is a field and K[x]=R is a ring. Then find all maximal ideals of R/I where I=<(x-1)(x-2)>.
I don't yet know how to solve this question. I'll try this after some time.
@porridgemathematics: you could try this if you wish. This may be very easy to you. :)
15:11
so i think this is the same as asking you to find all maximal ideals of K[x] containing (x-1) and (x-2), which are only (x-1),(x-2) since K is a field? Then the corresponding maximal ideals of R/I should be these ideals images
15:22
@lulu For your comment on the meta post, I found the formula inside of Ramanujan's collected papers, it was the paper on Bernoulli numbers. He mentions the formula from Edwards Differential calculus.
I edited my answer fro the post
How prove that order of odd permutation is even?
@Ajay I think there is only about odd/even permutations. They don't talk about order of permutations
@porridgemathematics I have no idea. I have not tried it yet :(.
yeah then I got nothing. i'm studying for an exam rn so I don't have time anymore
In fact this may be the last time i'm on chat or MSE for the next 2 months
well see ya. i will say hello in 2 months :) hopefully...
15:38
@monoidaltransform no, see: mathoverflow.net/questions/302990/…
@unit1991 use the decomposition into disjoint cycles
Cycles of odd length are even, so there must be a cycle of even length in the decomposition into disjoint cycles. Can you conclude from here?
15:54
@LukasHeger I did this way. s(\pi \times \lambda) = s(\pi) s(\lambda) where s is sign of permutation. Because identity permutation is even. If we multiply odd number of permutations we will get odd sign so contradiction. Is this right?
@monoidaltransform no, Bing's dogbone space is the most famous counterexample
How do I prove that for $0<t<1$ and $\varepsilon > 0$ there is a homeomorphism $h_n$ of $[-1, 1]^n\times [-1, 1]$ such that $h\restriction [-1, 1]^n\times [-1, t]$ is the identity and $\text{diam}(h([-1, 1]^n\times \{1\})<\varepsilon$
For $n = 1$ I know such exists. How do I prove this by induction
@Jakobian You are graduate student?
Why are you asking me questions
ok sorry it was interesting to know in what years you are doing such problems
16:08
All years.
It's something left to the reader from a book.
Because it's geometrically obvious
I need this for the proof of Hilbert cube being homeomorphic to its own cone
I have a different question actually
suppose that I have a polynomials w(x, y) and v(x, y), and I know that w(x, y) = v(x, y) for x, y being natural numbers
can I say that w(x, y) = v(x, y)?
16:31
If I have a matrix $A = \begin{bmatrix} 0 & b\\ -b & 0 \end{bmatrix}$ can I not do a change of basis (reverse the basis vectors) so that I get $A = P^{-1} \begin{bmatrix} b & 0\\ 0 & -b \end{bmatrix} P$
Where $P$ is the change of basis matrix.
I guess I could do JCF instead to get it diagonal
But why can I not just reverse the basis vectors?
17:19
@Jakobian You should know the answer to this.
@Govind75 Um, no. What are the eigenvalues?
And try reversing the basis vectors. What do you get?
M17
M17
17:44
@Ajay ok
18:35
yeah I was being dumb
@Govind75 You should recognize that this is a stretched rotation matrix :)
A separate question though, when drawing the phase portrait for the system $x' = Ax$, why do we calculate the Jordan decomposition $J = T^{-1}AT$ and plot the phase portrait for $e^{Jt}$, does $e^{At}$ follow the same behaviour?
Since $Te^{Jt}\vec{x} = e^{At}T\vec{x}$ would it not be better to plot the phase portrait of $Te^{Jt}$
Sure. You should know that $e^{P^{-1}AP} = P^{-1}e^A P$.
You're just doing the same change of coordinates to the flow of the ODE.
So the phase portraits of $e^{At}$, $e^{Jt}$ and $Te^{Jt}$ will be the same
Depends on the meaning of "the same."
18:42
They can be classified under the same type of phase portrait e.g. saddle node
Yes, same qualitative behavior.
That's what change of coordinates means, right?
Yeah, I guess I'm trying to get my head around it, what if I had stability along the $x$-axis, but my change of coordinates is a swap of axes, do I still have stability along the $x$-axis?
Of course not.
18:45
So I would get stability along the $y$-axis then, so its still a saddle node but just swapped stability
That's why I said "same qualitative behavior."
Yeah I get you
did a lightbulb just go on somewhere?
my power dimmed a little bit. :)
You have power?
oh, yes.
18:57
Shocking.
@TedShifrin sure. Just thought it wouldn't work
But it works
As always, look at the roots of the difference.
 
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Q: Existing results around approximation of minimum 2-edge connected Steiner subgraph

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Hi everyone. I was reading an article on PlanetMath and I found a surprising theorem: https://planetmath.org/recursivelyaxiomatizabletheory

Basically, it says that all "recursively axiomatizable theories are decidable." Is this really true? I see how recursively axiomatizable theories are semidecidable because you can enumerate through all proofs, but I don't see why all recursively axiomatizable theories need to be decidable.
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