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@leslietownes Indeed, in Western Wisconsin, that rivalry as been huge. Sometimes overshadowing the Green Bay-Chicago rivalry because the Chicago Bears have not done too well for some time now!

Bears–Packers rivalry

The Bears–Packers rivalry is a National Football League (NFL) rivalry between the Chicago Bears and the Green Bay Packers. The two clubs have won a combined 22 NFL championships (13 for Green Bay and 9 for Chicago), including five Super Bowl championships (four for Green Bay and one for Chicago) and have 65 members in the Pro Football Hall of Fame (Chicago with 34 and Green Bay with 31). They are two of the oldest teams in the NFL. The Bears were founded as the Decatur Staleys, a works team of the A. E. Staley Manufacturing Company, in 1919; they turned professional in 1920 and joined the American...

Wikipedia needs to be petitioned to change the title of that page to Packers-Bears rivalry!! ;D

leslie townes

8:34 PM

i don't recall hearing much about the bears in iowa, maybe for that reason, or maybe because i think only one person in the department was from the chicago area and he didn't care about sports

the idea of the lions having a "rivalry" with anyone :D :D :D i remember that from living in michigan

amWhy

@leslietownes Indeed!

Wrt the Bears, it's mostly because they go back almost 100 years, being the two teams preceding the NFL.

leslie townes

oh wow

amWhy

But ever since Bret Favre and Aaron Rodgers, the Bears have not done well in the last two decades.

I don't get French. Why Brett's name is pronounced FARVE,when it's spelled FAVRE. My mom's Oncologist was Dr. LeMabre, pronounced "Dr. LeMarb"

leslie townes

that -re thing is funny. i guess it's a signal about how to pronounce what comes before it.

although i guess native english speakers have no leg to stand on when it comes to how words are spelled vs. pronounced :D

amWhy

@leslietownes That's what I figured. Kind of like Les Miserable being pronounced "Lay Miserob"

@leslietownes Very true

leslie townes

8:46 PM

my mom had an optometrist whose actual birth name was Tempus Fugit. his parents must have hated him

amWhy

@leslietownes Hah! I guess!

leslie townes

CASSINI

CASSETTE (remember those?)

amWhy

9:35 PM

@leslietownes Nice. Your word just above it reminds me of CASINO, and Don't dare name the failed Casino in Atlantic City by you know who!! ;D

leslie townes

9:46 PM

haha. SCAM, anyone?

amWhy

MASCOT

@leslietownes I'd respond with the biggest Scammer all time if we hand a U and a P!!

SCRAM

We have a nearby pizza place, MARCOS

leslie townes

MOTOWN

amWhy

10:08 PM

@leslietownes Wow! That originally referred to Detroit? (or the "motor town). In any case, I recognize!

leslie townes

yeah. people mainly know it as a record label, although even that moved to los angeles right after it hit its peak.

amWhy

Dang, with another A we'd have SARCASM, SARCASTIC. Or SARCOMA (Bad news, but not as bad as Melanoma.) MELON!!

NOEL

LIONESS

amWhy

10:32 PM

@leslie Sorry, did not mean to take your momentum off of G, and copper.hat's "that hits the spot"... just in a silly mood, in the Math chat.

:(

leslie townes

hahaha

amWhy

@leslietownes How's little Miss Munchkin doing? :-)

And Miss Olivia?

leslie townes

munchkin is napping after a morning of running around and talking a lot. she told us a story and sang a song before napping. this is part of her new bedtime routine.

livvy has been in one of her beds for the last 3 hours. i think she opened her eyes once.

amWhy

Sounds nice an peaceful!

leslie townes

my wife sometimes takes munchkin to the home and garden section of home depot as a way of getting out of the house without being indoors too much. they did that today and brought back a poinsettia that is now on our porch.

apparently they phoned my mother-in-law on the drive there, and munchkin talked so much (mostly free associating on what she was seeing during the car trip) that my wife could not talk to her mom. this is very funny to me.

amWhy

10:48 PM

@leslietownes ooh! Nice find. In my neck of the woods, there is no "garden" section this time of year!

@leslietownes Hahahaha!

leslie townes

for context, my mother in law basically never stops talking, despite having nothing whatsoever to say. normally, she's the one who gets to free associate while nobody else has the opportunity to say anything.

so there's an element of poetic justice here.

amWhy

@leslietownes Oh, I love it!!!

leslie townes

my dad always thought i was joking about this, or just doing some kind of stereotypical resentment of a mother in law. then he met her. the first time they met it was like a 90 minute brunch in which my dad said maybe 3 things.

and all of the information from the other side was mostly just whatever my mother in law had done that day, and free association based on that.

so, my daughter is my revenge :D

amWhy

@leslietownes I have an aunt like that.

leslie townes

it's really weird. it's almost something that should have a formal diagnosis.

amWhy

10:52 PM

@leslietownes Exactly! Cause Grandma knows better than to interrupt Helena, and if she tries, Helena will just keep talking!

leslie townes

she'll shout right over any phone call. it's hilarious. :)

amWhy

@leslietownes I agree. My aunt is also addicted to gossip, even about coworkers of hers that I"ve never met, never will meet.

leslie townes

for my mother in law, it's gossip about members of her extended family that i've met maybe once. she has four sisters fairly close in age and they have always lived near one another. she's gone her whole life without ever developing social skills outside of her siblings.

amWhy

@leslietownes Hah! ;D

leslie townes

some of her siblings are OK one-on-one, but when they all get together, there's no concept of conversation. it's just an endless stream of consciousness.

amWhy

10:56 PM

@leslietownes We need to have my aunt meet with your Mother-in-Law, and watch the results!

leslie townes

hahaha. only if helena can be the referee.

amWhy

One think that irked me, while my sister was dying, over the course of a week, her husband's siblings, five of them, filled the room; all reminiscing about their youth, long before her husband, Kevin, marrying Lisa. I came from out of town, that week, and with my brother, they dominated all conversation. Thankfully, we both had a chance to sit with her, alone, my brother and I, after Kevin suggested his family allow time for us, him, and my sisters daughter. As soon as my brother an I,

and my niece, her daughter, left, only Kevin remained, and Lisa died within 20 minutes after our departure. I grew angry, prior to that, because my sister had issues with here sisters in law, and a brother-in-law, and would not have wanted mother, father in law and siblings in law camping out in her hospital room.

Some people simply have no clue about such matters.

Sorry, this is not so much of a somber matter, as it is a revealing how clueless people can be about the presence and inclusion/exclusion of others.

leslie townes

11:11 PM

yeah. bigger families weirdly seem to be worse at this sometimes, because there's a kind of social support for behavior that wouldn't fly in a smaller group.

amWhy

@leslietownes Yes, I think you hit it on the nail.

leslie townes

of course, smaller or not close families have their own brands of crazy. i'm just more used to it and maybe don't notice it as much.

amWhy

Spot on, (what I should have said).

@leslietownes No doubt.

leslie townes

my wife was asking me the other day about my extended family because we'd learned that my aunt died. i have an uncle whom i assume to be alive only because nobody has told me otherwise, but if he died we'd probably not learn about it. i don't know where most of my cousins live, there are a few cousins whose names i don't know.

so that's the other extreme. i'd prefer it to a crowded hospital room any day, but it's weird to some.

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