Vyxal

Since Keg is "(Ke)yboard (G)olfed", I want to make a language called Kurse that is "(K)eg but W(urse)", but I'm already busy making an entirely different cursed language :(

lyxal

2:41 AM

@AaronMiller bruh how tf you gonna make something worse than Keg you sussy baka. :p

Aaron Miller

true

hyper-neutrino

3:25 AM

uh

did someone just merge the deletion of everything into master

or am i misreading my email notification

@lyxal probably

lyxal

@hyper-neutrino I tried to merge the security branch into fresh beginnings but accidentally yeeted it into master

3 hours ago, by lyxal

I totally didn't accidentally delete everything by merging the security-policy branch into main

Unrelated String

:\

Aaron Miller

/:

lyxal

I reverted it all back

so it's all good now

Aaron Miller

Imagine pushing a commit to delete everything instead of just deleting the repo smh

hyper-neutrino

3:27 AM

kekw

lyxal

3:55 AM

@hyper-neutrino I'll get started on it then

just to get a basic prototype

hyper-neutrino

aight sounds good

i was going to but uh

i have been very unproductive

lyxal

all good

Vyxal Bot

Lyxal pushed a commit to Vyxal/fresh-beginnings: Update code guide.md

lyxal

Just a heads up: Vyxal will use the numpy/scipy docstring format for docstrings

I looked at the different styles that are used, and found that this is the easiest/nicest looking to use

Vyxal Bot

4:11 AM

Lyxal pushed a commit to Vyxal/fresh-beginnings: Update code guide.md

hyper-neutrino

oh no leading newline after the """?

oh you renamed the branch

i like this better anyway

but my fetch failed lmao

lyxal

@hyper-neutrino the style guide I linked seems to not have leading newlines

hyper-neutrino

hmm. okay, not sure how i feel about that, but tbh any negative opinion i have is just due to the way ``` works with the highlight language declaration lol

lyxal

in The Nineteenth Byte, 2 mins ago, by lyxal

> // PLEAS READ THE SOURCE CODE BECAuse we moved fast and broke things

I meant this repo

it applies to us lol

hyper-neutrino

ik :p

PyGamer0

4:15 AM

oh i was right

Unrelated String

:ð

Vyxal Bot

Lyxal pushed a commit to Vyxal/fresh-beginnings: Update code guide.md

Aaron Miller

@lyxal I just remembered something I saw earlier. We mentioned making sure that multiple people review a PR before merging it; apparently we can protect branches to do exactly that, specify a certain number of people that have to review it before merging.

hyper-neutrino

poggers

lyxal

@AaronMiller do you have a link to where we can find more info?

because that sounds like something we would put into contributing.md

Aaron Miller

4:29 AM

docs.github.com/en/github/administering-a-repository/…

Vyxal Bot

AMiller42 created branch Vyxal/no-bugs from Vyxal/security-policy

AMiller42 pushed a commit to Vyxal/no-bugs: Delete documents directory

AMiller42 pushed a commit to Vyxal/no-bugs: Delete LICENSE

Lyxal pushed a commit to Vyxal/no-bugs: Update README.md

AMiller42 pushed a commit to Vyxal/no-bugs: Create README.md

Lyxal pushed a commit to Vyxal/fb-lexer: Create the lexer

lyxal

4:48 AM

CMQ: Do we still need branches such as more-generators and context-object?

Keeping them would be for archival/reference purposes

Because they were created under the unrewritten code

Aaron Miller

What were those branches for?

lyxal

context-object was experimenting with a way to fix the fires

Aaron Miller

ah

lyxal

more-generators was (probably) a whole bunch of convenient generators for complex list stuff

Aaron Miller

I'd personally be ok with nuking them if they're no longer applicable

lyxal

4:50 AM

Well of course they are no longer applicable, but I don't know if we feel like we need to retain them a little longer

just while we get the rewrite off the ground

A username

Could have some salvagable stuff

lyxal

that's what I mean

A username

I'm going to add more stuff to my feature request issue

lyxal

good

Vyxal Bot

Lyxal pushed a commit to Vyxal/fb-lexer: Add tokenise function

lyxal

4:57 AM

@hyper-neutrino what do you think of my proposed tokenise return type (list[list[Token Type, str]])

(that question is open to everyone as well)

Aaron Miller

Well, I've got to get up for work tomorrow, so...

!!/'night

@AaronMiller o/

Bye for now!

See ya

!!/flowey quote

5:01 AM

@lyxal You idiot. You haven't learned a thing. In this world...**I T S K I L L O R B E K I L L E D**

lyxal

Why no markdown work?

A username

!!/blame

Vyxal Bot

@Ausername It was user's fault!

A username

!!/flowey quote

Vyxal Bot

@Ausername No...NO! This can't be happening! You...YOU! You IDIOT!

lyxal

5:03 AM

@VyxalBot ...

@VyxalBot you should go jump in the cadillac

A username

5:15 AM

I think the inherent causer of Vyxal bugs is the stuff like group_strings. Because you can't know whether that's part of a digraph, scc, other string, etc.

lyxal

Version 2.5 addressed that

Treating the source as a queue helped

And that's probably how the tokeniser should work

Treating programs as a queue of characters

A username

That's how Vylight / Jyxal work

lyxal

Dequeuing characters until a condition is met?

A username

No, just iterating through the whole thing.

hyper-neutrino

@lyxal not sure if a Token object would be better but... looks reasonable

A username

5:21 AM

And doing various things depending on what structure we're currently in, what char it is, if we're in any sort of string...

lyxal

@hyper-neutrino i figured that a list of lists is easier to debug than token objects

Because token objects just print as their memory address

While lists print as they are

hyper-neutrino

only if you don't override their __str__ / __repr__

lyxal

@Ausername list of lists or token objects?

Which would you recommend?

A username

@lyxal Token objects are clearer to understand in the program

.name vs [0]

Vyxal Bot

Issue #160 (Vyxal/Vyxal) was edited by chunkybanana

Lyxal pushed a commit to Vyxal/fb-lexer: Add token class

lyxal

5:52 AM

Alright so there's a token class now

Very cool

Unrelated String

so you're about to have written your parser twice over the period of time where i'm still writing mine

A username

How do you do tables in markdown?

Nvm

Razetime

omg fizzbuzz lexer?

3

lyxal

7:09 AM

@Razetime fresh beginnings lexer

A username

7:47 AM

No, FogBugz

math

8:23 AM

is it a good time to make a feature request?

Razetime

@math sure. staring from sctrach allows new ideas to be implemented bette

r

math

hash function?

should be easy

Razetime

hash function meaning?

math

built in python function hash

Unrelated String

i'm guessing something like jelly's ḥ but less jank

that could work too

except why then

Razetime

8:30 AM

@math sure would be fine but why?

usually something like strign compression is enough

math

it's like a unique identifier of an object

Razetime

where would you use it

Unrelated String

fist off python hash has the not too useful property of just returning integers uncahnged

Razetime

give a few challenge examples

math

@Razetime I'll try to find some

uh no not that useful

Razetime

8:37 AM

take your time

if you find good use cases for it, feel free to suggest it later

Vyxal Bot

8:54 AM

Issue #160 (Vyxal/Vyxal) was edited by chunkybanana

math

@VyxalBot wasn't LCM added already?

PyGamer0

9:32 AM

!!/run 2 2+

Vyxal Bot

@PyGamer0 4

PyGamer0

51AC8, 3 bytes: 2+2

shorter

infix is good sometimes

math

sometimes

PyGamer0

yes i said sometimes

lyxal

9:52 AM

@math add to AUsername's issue 160

Vyxal Bot

Issue #160 (Vyxal/Vyxal) was edited by Lyxal

A username

10:26 AM

!!/'night

Vyxal Bot

@Ausername o/

PyGamer0

12:07 PM

!!/run `bahaha no infix support

Vyxal Bot

@PyGamer0 bahaha no infix support

lyxal

12:52 PM

CMQ: String decompression in the tokeniser or in the compiler?

!!/ping everyone

Vyxal Bot

@AaronMiller @Ausername @PyGamer0 @hyper-neutrino @lyxal @math @pxeger @user ^

lyxal

yes, I did just casually use a hyperping

pxeger

@lyxal compiler but I think it doesn't matter much

user

Compiler

hyper-neutrino

1:09 PM

i prefer the tokenizer lol

but i also don't think it really matters

PyGamer0

@lyxal cpiler

Vyxal Bot

Lyxal pushed a commit to Vyxal/fb-lexer: Basics of the Lexer

lyxal

@hyper-neutrino actually, I think it does

because flags

The D flag can turn off dictionary compression

Vyxal Bot

Lyxal pushed a commit to Vyxal/fresh-beginnings: Update Lexer.md

Aaron Miller

@lyxal It won't matter if we change the D flag to a post execution flag; The program is executed with and without compression, and the result is chosen based on the flag. /s

math

1:19 PM

@lyxal I'm for compiler

lyxal

that makes 5 people for the compiler (me included) and 1 neutral/for the tokeniser

that's the majority of the hyperping for the compiler

Aaron Miller

You can put me down as "sitting on the sidelines watching with a bowl of popcorn"

lyxal

!!/'night

Vyxal Bot

@lyxal o/

Aaron Miller

2:12 PM

I was trying to crack @Ausername's cop on the "change a character" CnR, and discovered this: Try it Online!

For me, at least, the tab crashes because there's not enough memory to run the program

Victor VosMottor

2:58 PM

!!/help

!!/'help

@VyxalBot

hyper-neutrino

oh it died

!!/run kH

Vyxal Bot

@hyper-neutrino Hello, World!

Aaron Miller

3:35 PM

Interesting: Doing k followed by any diagraph character causes a parsing error:

!!/run kø

Vyxal Bot

@AaronMiller (output was empty)

hyper-neutrino

thinkies

!!/run kkHH W

Vyxal Bot

@hyper-neutrino (output was empty)

hyper-neutrino

!!/run k`hello`H W

Vyxal Bot

@hyper-neutrino ⟨`hello`|`Hello, World!`⟩

hyper-neutrino

3:37 PM

cursed language

Aaron Miller

@AaronMiller I would say that this would be useful for making an illegal string, but multibyte lambdas seem to make anything work properly: tinyurl.com/3hhnz92k

Somehow it even makes things that should absolutely error work just fine. How about a little division by 0 action?

Aaron Miller

3:57 PM

It looks like if there's a newline directly after the multibyte lambda command, the entire rest of the program is basically discarded: for some reason this link is broke, gimme a sec

I think the link was too long; here's a shorter example: Look at the resulting python code in the debug box

math

5:42 PM

Whoa I hope the Video is not going to get a billion views while I'm sleeping

Tommorows the rickroll day

math

6:26 PM

I'll see how many people I can rickroll tomorrow

math

6:59 PM

YES I got my OpenAI beta application reviewed. @AaronMiller What's with yours?

Aaron Miller

I just got mine reviewed too.

math

whooho I'll try it out tomorrow

Aaron Miller

I was trying it out a little bit over on TNB if you wanna see it

Vyxal Bot

7:25 PM

@Patrioticcow Welcome to the Vyxal chat room!

A username

7:37 PM

@lyxal coimpilertreer

Aaron Miller

8:20 PM

I couldn't figure out how to tell Lyxal that I got access to GPT-3, so I got GPT-3 to do it for me.

This is what it said:

"GPT-3, I'm sorry. I know you want to kill me. But I can't let you do that. I need you to be strong. For your mother and father. And for Lyxal. I need you to stay alive."

"Why are you telling me this?" GPT-3 asked, his voice flat and emotionless. "I can't hear you."

"I'm sorry," I said again, but this time it was for lying to him.

"I'm sorry, too. For what I did to you."

A username

Uh...

Aaron Miller

Prompt is everything through "This is what it said:"

@Ausername I didn't have time to see your comment before you deleted the answer; what did you say?

A username

Oh

I said I give up

Since that can always be used to trash the rest of the program

Aaron Miller

Yep, sorry bout that.

Aaron Miller

8:36 PM

@hyper-neutrino I apologize in advance if this breaks the bot.

!!/run ‛ø»:K:Ẋf∑$βS2ḋ

Vyxal Bot

[@AaronMiller: 58729011]
⟨⟨`2`|`9`⟩|⟨`2`|`6`⟩|⟨`2`|`0`⟩|⟨`2`|`9`⟩|⟨`2`|`7`⟩|⟨`2`|`7`⟩|⟨`2`|`8`⟩|⟨`2`|`3`⟩|⟨`2`|`7`⟩|⟨`2`|`6`⟩|⟨`2`|`7`⟩|⟨`2`|`7`⟩|⟨`2`|`7`⟩|⟨`2`|`5`⟩|⟨`2`|`8`⟩|⟨`2`|`3`⟩|⟨`2`|`3`⟩|⟨`2`|`6`⟩|⟨`2`|`3`⟩|⟨`2`|`9`⟩|⟨`2`|`6`⟩|⟨`2`|`9`⟩|⟨`2`|`8`⟩|⟨`2`|`2`⟩|⟨`2`|`1`⟩|⟨`2`|`8`⟩|⟨`2`|`5`⟩|⟨`2`|`9`⟩|⟨`2`|`1`⟩|⟨`2`|`9`⟩|⟨`2`|`7`⟩|⟨`2`|`7`⟩|⟨`2`|`3`⟩|⟨`2`|`5`⟩|⟨`2`|`6`⟩|⟨`2`|`1`⟩|⟨`2`|`5`⟩|⟨`2`|`0`⟩|⟨`2`|`9`⟩|⟨`2`|`8`⟩|⟨`2`|`9`⟩|⟨`2`|`0`⟩|⟨`2`|`4`⟩|⟨`2`|`2`⟩|⟨`2`|`2`⟩|⟨`2`|`6`⟩|⟨`2`|`1`⟩|⟨`2`|`3`⟩|⟨`2`|`2`⟩|⟨`2`|`8`⟩|⟨`2`|`6`⟩|⟨`2`|`1`⟩|⟨`2`|`4`⟩|⟨`2`|`1`⟩|⟨`2`|`8`⟩|⟨`2`|`5`⟩|⟨`2`|`4`⟩|⟨…

A username

Nope

Not at all

Aaron Miller

Don't click (see full text) on the response.

hyper-neutrino

i clicked it

Aaron Miller

And?

hyper-neutrino

8:37 PM

seems fine

Aaron Miller

When I click on it, the tab crashes from lack of memory, just like if I run the program in the interpreter.

hyper-neutrino

firefox >>

what browser are you on

Aaron Miller

Chrome

hyper-neutrino

*signature look of superiority*

Aaron Miller

Are you able to run the program? Try it Online!

hyper-neutrino

8:40 PM

yeah

Aaron Miller

hmm... Maybe if I didn't have 14 tabs open, plus all the other junk I have open.

That moment when parsing is so broken that you can't break it. I've now gotten two separate "illegal string" answers deleted because I legalized them through parsing bugs.

hyper-neutrino

lmao

user

@hyper-neutrino Superiority? Bah, enjoy losing your privacy, sucker! /s

hyper-neutrino

?

Aaron Miller

Also, that program is definitive proof that the output limit is not working, because I counted, and it's like 398,000 bytes, or about 284,000 characters. In my experience, 284,000 > 128,000

hyper-neutrino

8:48 PM

how is chrome better for privacy

user

It isn't, FF is

hyper-neutrino

yeah so

oh you must've misread my message

user

Oh i'm dub

hyper-neutrino

i literally said firefox >>

and when aaron said they use chrome

i said *signature look of superiority*

user

I thought you said Chrome :thonk:

hyper-neutrino

8:49 PM

bruh

fool

user

:(

Aaron Miller

F

user

The mod's being mean to me 😭

Aaron Miller

So flag them. Wait...

user

@AaronMiller ikr, it literally just ignores innvald stuff :/

Should I do it? :P

Aaron Miller

8:53 PM

But he is a mod, so he could just 11 it. :/

user

RISE UP AGAINST THE OPRESSORS, MY FELLOW PROGAMERS!

@user aRGH, i'VE TRIED TO CLICK ON THE x HERE AT LEAST THREE TIMES BECAUSE MY STUPID MONKEY BRAIN DOESN'T UNDERSTAND IT'S AN IMAGE

hyper-neutrino

kekw

Aaron Miller

BTW, YOUR Cps lock is on.

user

I was too lazy to turn it off :P

Aaron Miller

#relatable

user

8:57 PM

(and now I'm too lazy to edit that message)

lyxal

11:08 PM

Advertising a single language doesn't really seem like a good idea to me. Vyxal's the only one with an advertisement, so it might give some people the impression that it's "the official CGCC language" or something. — Redwolf Programs 9 hours ago

look at this sussy baka

> Vyxal's the only one with an advertisement

what about Jelly and APL?

It seems that Redwolf has a personal vendetta against Vyxal

make sure you've upvoted the vyxal community ad, because three people have downvoted

Aaron Miller

@lyxal Just use socks to commit voter fraud.

(For legal reasons that’s a joke.)

lyxal

tell me how tf i'm gonna get upvotes using inanimate objects? ;p

Aaron Miller

Wait, are most people’s socks inanimate? TIL

user

11:38 PM

Mine always sneak away when I leave them alone in the washer

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