This is cool: datetimes are considered to be rows in a table, so column access works on them even if they're in a list:

l2021.01.15 3GB (c)shakti 2.0
 a:.z.d+0 1
 a.m
2021.01. 2021.01.

.[;;:;]//[;;] what have I wrought -_-

@chrispsn I think k4 has that (just with a.mm instead returning just the month (i.e. 1 1i)), although apparently it doesn't work in functions

hmm I think it works in functions now (at least on 3.6)

@coltim does it work for a list of date times?

@chrispsn yep! at least on the a:.z.d+0 1 example

@coltim ah - so it does

@coltim i wonder if deep where could be used in your answer here codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/111991/…

<+&~^ could be a handy way to get a number for each element in the matrix, instead of !*/ shape m

would be nice to have k9-style cut

maybe an issue with deep where is that it's hard to apply in a dmend?

@ktye i don't know i'm not much of a designer. there's this blinking thing, so i've never had problems identifying where focus is. and isn't the modern way to show focus a blue outline?

that way, there is always a border and the text does not move by 1px when clicking inside

there used to be a time when :focus worked only for links..

@ktye is the text hard to read? how about making it always #fff?

i think it's a bit more intuitive. aren't your xterms the same (darkening when unfocused)?

@ktye only the title bars

gnome-terminals, btw, because i can't live without zoom in/out

@ngn you seem to have a lot of screen to waste! title-bars.

habits. my desktop still looks like windows nt :)

if xfce had that option, i'd make it look exactly like windows nt

@ngn what's wrong with fvwm95 then?

@ktye haha, that's close :)

@ngn gnome? no problem: github.com/B00merang-Project/Windows-3.11

gnome used to have a redmond theme before they screwed up everything with gnome3

@ngn big fan of ubuntu-mate.org/about

@chrispsn i used that for a while, it used to come with linux mint where everything just worked well enough by default

i've tried lxde too

for many years i used evilwm. tiling window mangers haven't been invented yet. it was all i needed.

@ktye f11 and all distractions disappear :)

@user7788347 hi! for write access in this chat, please see chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/49641017#49641017 and i'll ask the moderators to grant it

chat mini-poll: do you think focus needs to be indicated with anything other than a blinking cursor? if yes, would you prefer text darkening/brightening or a coloured border (blue, green, ..) or both?

text darkening, but i have one more request you won't like.

@ktye go ahead :)

btw, i'm undecided on this one, not really against it

chat mini-poll[1] ^

@chrispsn yeh, I was thinking the same thing. I couldn't quite figure out how to use a .[m;i;:;v] when m was a matrix and i was a list of cell coordinates (e.g. (0 0;0 1;0 2)) with v being a list of values to replace with

(the latter coming from m ./: {{cell coordinates}})

@ngn maybe like that: button{position:absolute;bottom:0px;right:50%;background:#000;color:#aaa;font-family:monospace}

@ngn is there a way to select all the indices in a @ or .? e.g. something equivalent to this

@coltim this?

(or y[;]:3 3#!9)

@coltim added to my todo

hmm I may have been overthinking things. I think that example would just be y:3 3#!9... I guess there's still e.g. .[y;(::;0);:;!3]

@chrispsn I think this can be done somewhat succinctly with ./[y;i;:;<i:+&~^y] (dropping the < to have the "full" cell coordinates rather than the flattened indices)

(without calculating/storing the shape of the input, you'd have to preserve the structure of the input somehow)

@chrispsn @coltim -2: {s#(,/x){x[i]:x@,/|0 1_i:?,/*'3(|+:)\y;x}/-1_(4(1_|+:)/)\s#!*/s:2##'*:\x}/

even shorter: {(,()){(,y),+|x}/|,/{(-1_+\0,#'x)_,/|0 1_,/x}'0N 4#-1_*'(|+1_)\x}/

{(,()){(,y),+|x}/|,/{-1_(1+\0,#'x)_,/x,x}'0N 4#-1_*'(|+1_)\x}/