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Q: Fock space contains all polynomials

user640718For any $f\in H(\mathbb{C})$, we say $f$ belongs to the Fock space $F_{\alpha}^{p}$ if $$\int_{\mathbb{C}}|f(z)|^{p}e^{-\frac{p\alpha}{2}|z|^{2}}dA(z)<\infty$$ Most papers and books I read trivially state that every complex polynomial is contained in $F_{\alpha}^{p}$. Can anybody show me why this...

 
what the fock?
 
Math puzzle Christmas calendar. No idea if it will get hard at some point mscroggs.co.uk
 
that's what I tell my girlfriend, but I can tell she's disappointed anyway
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idk how appropriate that was
 
ssshhhh if you dont talk about it, there's no problem
it was all in relation to a calendar until you talked about appropriateness
 
"Ahhhh I'm just tiiiiired, had a lot to eat, the math problems will get hard eventually just give it time"
 
7:10 PM
exactly
 
@TobiasKildetoft I did the first one carefully by hand and then realized it's much more straightforward than what I did
 
uh-oh, the words tilt and untilt have entered the vocabulary of the p-adic Hodge theory course
 
@MikeMiller I did the same, except for the realization part :)
 
Compare the sum you get for 325 to the sum you get for your answer
Take the ratio between terms to see the point
 
not sure what you mean by ratio between terms
 
7:13 PM
surely you get a sum of 5 terms to get 325 and then a sum of 5 terms to get your answer
 
@Leaky you were right, perfectoid fields are on the syllabus
 
@EdwardEvans brilliant
 
the ratio of each term in the second sum to the corresponding term in the first sum is constant
 
It's a good thing I barely understand what's going on even before they enter the game
 
7:15 PM
I actually did realize that from the start, but somehow I mixed up some numbers and got a non-integer answer so I assumed I was mistaken
I somehow replaced a 5 by a 3 and everything fell apart
 
That'll do ya
Anyway, once you realize this thing about ratios, there is an immediate combinatorial answer that doesn't involve summing...
 
@EdwardEvans why did you pick p-adic Hodge theory over AG?
 
cuz I'm scared of Böckle
and need to take a course with Venjakob
and I kinda wanna learn about (phi, Gamma)-modules
Rustam explains stuff well though, so his tutorials help more than the lectures lol
 
there's no need to be scared of Böckle
 
yeah he seems really nice but the category theory in Alg2 scared me off
unfortunately lol
I'm gonna extend my master for like a year though, so I'll still get the chance to take AG
 
7:24 PM
i find it annoying that abstract nonsense is relatively straightforward yet completely opaque to me.
 
@copper.hat Exactly.
 
abstract nonsense begins to make sense when you look at enough examples
without that, it's just formalities
 
I'm getting a feel for what I want to study for my master thesis outside of iWaSaWa ThEoRy and p-adic representations seem interesting
 
@LukasHeger it takes a mind set that i do not have.
 
and it seems like p-adic Langlands is a fairly hot topic
 
7:29 PM
if your into p-adic Langlands you should do the seminar by Milan, he does local Langlands for GL(2)
but probably too late to join now
 
Yeah I'm in that seminar too, I'll be talking about the L-function and epsilon-factor of cuspidal representations
That reminds me @Lukas, do you know why the Hecke algebra is the "right" analogue of the group ring for smooth reps?
 
oh right, I forgot
 
I meant to ask the question in the last seminar but I forgot lmao
@LukasHeger there are still quite a few talks open. So far we've mainly had talks by the doctoral students because few people signed up
 
well, you can show that admissable representations of a locally profinite group $G$ correspond to admissable modules over the Hecke algebra $\mathcal{H}(G)$. That's pretty strong evidence that it's the right analogue
 
lol I see
 
7:33 PM
and if your group is finite $\mathcal{H}(G)$ is just the group algebra
actually, that holds if you just assume that $G$ is discrete
 
Nice
I'm also gonna do weak Mordell-Weil by Galois cohomology
for the elliptic curves course
 
nice
 
but I've barely started to think about that yet
 
you probably also defined the relative Hecke algebra for a compact open subgroup $K\subset G$, right? One thing that's surprising is that some relative Hecke algebras have a reasonable explicit description. For example $\mathcal{H}(\operatorname{GL}_2(K),\operatorname{GL}_2(\mathcal{O}_K)) \cong \Bbb C[x,y,y^{-1}]$
that's the so-called Satake isomorphism (well, a special case at least)
 
we didn't define it at all, the book just mentions that the group algebra doesn't hack it for smooth reps of locally profinite groups and that the Hecke algebra is "righter" than the group algebra in this setting
but I wanted to know why it's "righter"
 
7:39 PM
representations of $\mathrm{GL}_2(K)$ on which $\mathrm{GL}_2(\mathcal O_K)$ acts trivially are called unramified
 
@LukasHeger What definition of the Hecke algebra do you use?
 
@Tobias for a totally disconnected locally compact Hausdorff group $G$, the Hecke algebra $\mathcal{H}(G)$ is the space of locally constant and compactly supported functions to a fixed coefficient field $k$, which becomes a non-unital non-commutative ring under convolution wrt a Haar measure
 
Ahh, I see
I only really know about the Iwahori-Hecke algebra associated to a Coxeter group
Which also coincides with the group algebra, but mainly due to abstract non-sense about obstructions to deformations
 
@Tobias I think these might actually be related to one another. For a compact open subgroup $K$ of $G$, there's the relative Hecke algebra $\mathcal{H}(G,K)=e_K * \mathcal{H}(G) * e_K$, where $e_K$ is the indicator function of $K$, which is an idempotent in the Hecke algebra. Now if $G$ is a reductive group over a local field, then $G$ has subgroups called Iwahori subgroups (basically generalizations of Borel subgroups I think).
For such a Iwahori subgroup $B$, one can show that $G$ has a Tits system $(B,N)$ where $N$ is an affine Coxeter group (that's a generalization of the Bruhat decompo
 
That does sound likely
I mainly know two definitions. One using generators and relations and the other as the endormorphism algebra of an induced module for a finite group of Lie type
 
7:53 PM
again
can anybody enlighten me about that microstate stuff in thermodynamics. Why do assumptions such as this are reasonable? "In particular, if each microstate x had a total energy H(x), and one had a law of conservation of energy which meant that microstates could only transition to other microstates with the same energy"?
 
Most of the work I did with these was as motivating examples using that they have some very nice properties when considered as positively based algebras in the KL basis
 
I can understand that the whole system doesn't lose energy, but individual microstates? Is it because in our intuition, only one particle can fit into any microstate, and transitioning between microstates means that the energy moves with it?
 
@Edward unramified representations of $\mathrm{GL}_2$ as I defined them above correspond to unramified representations of the Galois group, i.e. those on which the inertia group $I$ acts trivially. Now a nice thing is that if you have a global automorphic representation of $\mathrm{GL}_2$, the corresponding local representations are all unramified for all the primes except for the finitely many ones which devide the level
 
Fckn physics
 
you mean the inertia group?
 
7:56 PM
oops yeah
 
that's cool though
 
@user2103480 Physics didn't do anything wrong
Just physicists.
 
fair enough
 
because we can understand the unramified representations of $\mathrm{GL}_2$ fairly well (they're just modules over $\Bbb C[x,y,y^{-1}]$ after all), one can actually check fairly easily that if we consider Deligne's construction of a Galois representation associated to a modular form as a form of global Langlands for $\mathrm{GL}_2$, then there's local-global compatibility at all primes not dividing the level
 
I honestly have trouble understanding any MINT-community's notions if they involve math
 
8:00 PM
there's actually local-global compatibility for all primes, but for those dividing the level, it's much harder because you can't use that unramified reps are really nice
 
that's the reason why p-adic reps are harder to study than $\ell$-adic reps right? lmao noob questions
tbh I'm still trying to figure out what I'm really interested in hahaha. I find the classical Iwasawa theory really interesting (though I still haven't read it in detail) and would like to work on something along those lines (which is why I want to work with Venjakob obviously) and study p-adic L-functions and stuff, but at the same time I'm pretty interested in the p-adic representation junk and I know that's a hotter topic than Iwasawa theory of p-adic Lie extensions
pls advise
 
no, those reps I am taking about are all $\ell$-adic (well except for one prime $\ell$, but we can always take some $\ell$ distinct from $p$ if we want to look at the $p$-local component)
it's just that for primes dividing the level, the local $\ell$-adic rep of the $p$-adic field is not unramified
 
nothing's as bad as computational linguistics
they're so distant from math that they invented a name for literally just linearly interpolating measures
 
There's no reason computational linguists should know better
Physicists should, they just refuse to
 
@MikeMiller I would call this patronizing if their math knowledge wasn't exactly as superficial as one thinks
 
8:08 PM
@AlessandroCodenotti sort of
 
Tbf the professor was a physicist for the lecture I took, so he probably knows more than enough math, but it also explains the horrendous level of vagueness in the "notes"
 
@TobiasKildetoft You can be sure that these questions will be posted on main :-(
 
@robjohn Probably, yeah
 
My rather quick searches have found no instances yet.
 
8:26 PM
@user2103480 this is a standard complaint about engineers, physicists, etc. different disciplines have different foci.
 
Hm, $T$ be a linear self-isomorphism of an inner product space. $\langle v, w \rangle = 0$ implies $\langle Tv, Tw \rangle = 0$. This implies $T$ is actually orthogonal, I think.
 
@robjohn Thinking about it, the mean square, ala The masked grinch who stole Christmas who be a good match for you. Consider green instead of orange!
 
Yeah, it clearly sends a orthobasis to an orthobasis, but different scaling on each vector in the basis will screw things up: If $v, w$ are unit vectors, $v + w$ and $v - w$ are orthogonal, hence so are $T(v) + T(w)$ and $T(v) - T(w)$ but that means $T(v)$ and $T(w)$ have equal norms.
 
Very good @Balarka.
 
I had not noticed this before! I just realized I can start by explaining a conformal map $U \to V$ as something which sends a fine square-grid on $U$ to an orthogonal curvilinear grid on $V$
Because of this, of course.
 
8:34 PM
Composition of rotation and dilatation?
 
Yeah I will get to that, this will be my first picture in the talk
 
I never have known why "dilation" doesn't suffice.
Oh, you're talking?
 
Yeah
 
Whereupon?
 
The plan is to give some proofs of the Riemann mapping theorem
Trying to tell a coherent story
 
8:35 PM
Ah.
 
Is there a way to show that $\int_{0}^{\infty} x^{np+1} e^{qx^2}dx$ is finite, where $n \in \Bbb{N}$, $p >0$, and $q < 0$?
 
8:51 PM
lmao if you join telegram from germany you get an automated message to join the official governments coronavirus channel
too many conspiracy tards on telegram I guess
 
same here
there's a whatsapp WHO channel as well
 
I don't think I got such a message
 
@copper.hat I actually have a good amount of tolerance for that, but if they're handling expressions that could be well-defined with just, two lines more, that's extremely annoying
 
@Astyx started watching Twin Peaks yet?
 
and when you then ask what's meant exactly, and all the assistents don't understand your questions, it just gets frustrating
 
8:54 PM
No I haven't had the time :/
Will do soon!
 
@Astyx mistake
 
@user2103480 i agree & understand completely.
 
The first episode is ready on my desktop though
 
if y'all know some mindfuck thing to watch just let me know
i started watching documentaries by adam curtis lately
Hypernormalization is a complete reality bender
back from when BBC was actually good
 
8:56 PM
@BalarkaSen I tend to not like "mindfuck" things. They're too often braincel christopher nolan stuff
but surreal is great
 
nolan sucks
i dont mean him
but i know what you mean by the typical mindfuck stuff
 
I think twin peaks fits well into the surreal corner
 
yeah i dont know how to describe it
without using too many pretentious words
stuff that changes your perception of reality maybe
 
@BalarkaSen which tend to obfuscate the matter even more, like describing music as "spherical" lmao
 
haha yeah
 
8:58 PM
that sounds more like you're searching for a psychedelics trip in film form lol
 
kinda? i have never actually taken psychedelics so i shouldnt say that explicitly maybe
there are 100% things (lit/film/music) that i think are like psych trips tho
 
I'm trying to prove that there is an exact sequence of C-modules $\Omega^1_{B/A}\otimes_B C\to \Omega^1_{C/A}\to \Omega^1_{C/B}\to 0$, where $\Omega^1_{B/A}$ is the module of relative differentials of B on A (or whatever the correct terminology is in english). So far I've proven that there's an exact sequence in the opposite direction for the corresponding modules of derivations onto a module M $Der_B(A, M)\equiv Hom(\Omega^1_{B/A}, M)$
So in some sense I want to get rid of Hom(-, M) and preserve exact sequences
 
@user193319 substitute $x=\frac{1}{\sqrt{|q|}}y$ so that we may assume $q=-1$. If we can show $\int_0^\infty x^{2m} e^{-x^2} \mathrm{d}x$ is finite for all $m \in \Bbb N$, that would solve the problem because $x^{2m}e^{-x^2}$ dominates $x^{np+1}e^{-x^2}$ for $2m\geq np+1$
Introduce a new parameter $a>0$ we start from $\int_0^\infty e^{-ax^2}\mathrm{d}x$, do a substitution $y=\frac{1}{\sqrt{a}} x$ to obtain
$$\int_0^\infty e^{-ax^2}\mathrm{d}x=\frac{1}{\sqrt{a}} \int_0^\infty e^{-x^2}\mathrm{d}x=\sqrt{\frac{\pi}{a}}$$
 
I'm too much of a film/series noob to give good recommendations, I'm afraid
 
same tbh
i feel though that there's a lot more than film/series that i find is well within this genre i have in mind, which i haven't really defined, but stuff that kind of gives you this sense of walking through a portal into a totally different realm of stuff which only makes half-sense
 
9:05 PM
hopefully, but it's hard to do well without it being too cliché
 
@user193319 I should be more careful: $x^{2m}e^{-x}$ dominates $x^{np+1}e^{-x}$ on $[1,\infty)$, but that's enough since the integral over $[0,1]$ is trivially finite as the integrand is continuous
 
I mean, even twin peaks got it wrong after some time. Haven't seen the third season, which I've heard is great, but the second season was meh
 
oh thats because ABC or whatever forced Lynch to reveal the core of the show
you're never supposed to know Laura Palmer's killer
watch S3 its AWESOME
 
Also, many people do the mistake of trying to explain how the surreal or supernatural stuff works
 
its like S2 finale but throughout a whole season
 
9:07 PM
Oh that sounds great
 
@user2103480 a standard example of mine is this picture
@user2103480 yeah S3 is really the heart of the matter
 
@BalarkaSen nice
@BalarkaSen I'm glad that lynch got the opportunity to rectify all this
 
yeah; lynch left midway in S2 cuz corporate crap
 
so I asked a friend of mine and got the recommendations arrival, memento, and a lars von trier film
meh
my disappointment is immeasurable
 
aw yeah man sucks. arrival is ok but the same director has a movie I consider one of the greatest horror movies of the decade
its called the Enemy
lars von trier lol
btw a trippy movie is one of your old German silent classics, cabinet of dr caligari
 
9:12 PM
Memento is alright, but I prefer gone girl from Fincher
 
@Astyx $X' \to X\to X'' \to 0$ is exact iff for all $M$ the sequence $0 \to \mathrm{Hom}(X'',M) \to \mathrm{Hom}(X,M) \to \mathrm{Hom}(X',M)$ is exact. This means you're basically done
 
@BalarkaSen "the house that jack built"
 
lol
i hate lars von trier
 
@LukasHeger Why is that?
I saw a post on MSE about it, but they assumed the morphisms were given by some $f_*$ and $g_*$
Which might always be the case, but I don't see why it should
 
@BalarkaSen I don't like violent/gory films so I just ignore all his works
 
9:16 PM
Oh yes, what I said is only true if you assume that the arrows in $0 \to \mathrm{Hom}(X'',M) \to \mathrm{Hom}(X,M) \to \mathrm{Hom}(X',M)$ are induced by arrows $X' \to X \to X''$
 
I'm actually fine with violence if it isn't a celebration of depicting violence
 
So I still need to prove that
 
yeah
 
@user2103480 i think melancholia is violence/gore-free but im still not a fan
 
now anybody explain to me why "microstates could only transition to other microstates with the same energy"
 
9:19 PM
his horror movies, like antichrist, are complete garbage otoh
 
Like, I can understand why one says that the energy of the whole system doesn't decrease
 
In what context ?
 
Whatever "system" actually means
 
Statistical physics?
 
yup
terrytao.wordpress.com/2007/08/20/… still trying to get the physical intuition for what tao says in his statistical mechanics paragraphs
Is the "system" a collection of markov processes on the state space? And each microstate an element of the state space?
If yes I don't get why the global condition of energy-preservingness must hold locally
 
9:23 PM
@Astyx the reason, from a high-level point of view of why that works is that the $\mathbf{Ab}$-enriched contravariant Yoneda-embedding $\mathbf{C}^{op} \to [\mathbf{C},\mathbf{Ab}]$ that sends $X$ to $\mathrm{Hom}(X,-)$ is a left-exact fully faithful functor, so it reflects kernels
$X' \to X \to X'' \to 0$ being exact just says that $X''$ is the cokernel of $X' \to X$
 
locally = for each "moving particle" (markov chain) at every transition
 
which is the same as saying that $X''$ is the kernel of $X \leftarrow X'$ in $\mathbf{C}^{op}$
whereas $0 \to \mathrm{Hom}(X'',M) \to \mathrm{Hom}(X,M) \to \mathrm{Hom}(X',M)$ being exact for all $M$ says that $\mathrm{Hom}(X'',-)$ is the kernel of $\mathrm{Hom}(X,-) \to \mathrm{Hom}(X',-)$
 
Ha, ok
That's good to know
@user2103480 I think the microstates define the energy oof the whole system
 
$\mathbf{Ab}$-enriched contravariant Yoneda-embedding is a pretty fancy name I guess for what's happening here
 
@Astyx yeah yeah that's reasonably clear to me. He mentions, in disguised form, the hamiltonian and assigns an energy to each microstate
 
9:29 PM
I'm using $[\mathbf{C},\mathbf{Ab}]$ to denote the additive functors $\mathbf{C} \to \mathbf{Ab}$, that's the $\mathbf{Ab}$-enriched part
 
S if the system is isolated the energy of the microstates cannot change because the energy of the system doesn't
 
But for the energy of the whole system to remain constant, one could in theory have more configurations than equal energy at every state, or energy remaining equal at every transition
@Astyx energy of the microstates = energy of each individual microstate, or the sum of the energies?
 
Microstate is the global state, but with a very precise description from what I remember
If you have a system with N particles, the microstate describes the state of each of the N particles
 
see... those are the things that bug me
 
 
9:32 PM
Hello everyone. I would like some help to think of an example of a real function such that

$$\underline{\int_a^b}\left|f(x)\right|\,\mathrm{d}x < \left|\underline{\int_a^b}f(x)\,\mathrm{d}x\right|$$
 
@BalarkaSen that film is bullshit
in the sense that
it's creepy af
 
i love it
 
@LukasHeger What does Ab-enriched mean?
 
@Astyx that's not very enlightening to me, but I think I understand now. I thought a microstate refers to the configuration of one particle
 
@Balarka I think it's one of the first films to incorporate the "twist at the end" feature
 
9:33 PM
not the configuration of all particles. It's literally just vague coordinates smh
 
or smth idk
 
of a collection of particles
 
Yes, but the idea is that global parameters because statistical means over every possible microstate
You don't want to have to track every single particle
 
Fair, fair
 
@EdwardEvans something like this. i just think shooting the whole film in an impressionist set is just brilliant
 
9:36 PM
yeah it is great
Also the Matrix uses a similar thing
whereby
the scenes in the matrix are tinted green and those outside the matrix are tinted blue
 
In the context of abelian categories, the Hom-sets are actually abelian groups. In general a $\mathbf{Ab}$-enriched category is more general than an abelian category, we just have that all Hom-sets are abelian groups and composition is $\Bbb Z$-bilinear. For usual categories, the Yoneda embedding is a functor $\mathbf{C} \to [\mathbf{C}^{op},\mathrm{Set}]$. For an $\mathbf{Ab}$-enriched cartegory, the Yoneda embedding is from $\mathbf{C}$ to additive functors $\mathbf{C}^{op} \to \mathbf{Ab}$
 
@EdwardEvans yeah Matrix has a lot of original ideas
id recommend you eXistenZ if you like Matrix
came out the same year as Matrix
 
@Balarka well I mean, some of the scenes in Cabinet of dr Caligari are weird and distorted and some are fairly normal, and I think the same thing applies
I'll give that a look, ty
 
oh i see what you mean
yeah
 
@LukasHeger Ok, thank you!
 
10:02 PM
@Thorgott come play
 
10:27 PM
@amWhy I did do a green avatar for St PDay, so I guess I can do a Grinch
@TedShifrin: no dreidel avatar?
 
@robjohn Love it! The Mean Green Grinch!
 
The Mean Green Squaring Machine
Just give me a circle!
I see no problem squaring a circle... you get a torus!
 
10:44 PM
If two measures are absolutely continuous on a semiring, does that extend to the whole measure
(generating semiring)
 
@robjohn Weren't you the one who told me I already was? :)
 
11:10 PM
So you can't delete a question if someone answers it?
 
11:22 PM
O,o
 
11:52 PM
@TedShifrin I said it wouldn't take much of a change...
@JorgeFernández-Hidalgo It's not considered polite since someone spent time and energy to write the answer.
 
Yes, its very annoying to be in the process of answering and have the question disappear.
On the flip side (which is what I thought you were asking initially) I sometimes add an answer which I subsequently discover is incorrect, it gets accepted and then I cannot delete it, which is frustrating as I then need to scramble to solve properly :-)
 
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