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there is something off with ubiquity. I have groovy in virtualbox. and it was complaining because of missing efi filesystem even I verify it was started in bios mode.

technastic_tc

12:41 PM

Hey moderators! @jokerdino @Mitch @ThomasWard @Zanna

Dan

1:23 PM

Do mods have the ability to hide a specific tag from showing on the homepage?
The ones under the "Explore our Questions" title: https://i.stack.imgur.com/LZ6aS.png

jokerdino

@technastic_tc what's up?

@Dan doubt so, what's the cause of concern here?

Dan

no concern, I just wanted to see if it's worth posting a meta question about hiding version tags from the homepage

i guess no point doing that since it's not possible anyway lol

technastic_tc

Do you guys have any idea why Stefano Palazzo is no long a moderator?

terdon

@technastic_tc ~~Stefano stepped down years ago~~. Everyone is free to choose to step down. Some people write a post on meta saying goodbye and giving reasons, but others don't.

jokerdino

@technastic_tc can't tell the details but he was inactive for too long

technastic_tc

1:36 PM

@terdon He was moderator even in October.

jokerdino

@terdon he stepped down??

terdon

There doesn't need to be a "Reason", sometimes people just move on and don't want to spend much time here any more.

@jokerdino No, sorry. My bad, I was thinking of the other mod with an Italian name.

Who'd stepped down just before Tomas and I were elected.

jokerdino

@terdon Luis? Bruno?

terdon

Bruno

And that's a Portuguese name, but that's my memory for you.

@technastic_tc SE recently updated the moderator agreement. Some mods may have chosen not to sign it and were de-modded by SE a few weeks ago.

@skullpatrol Faded giant was never a mod here.

yes, I know. But not here

jokerdino

I didn't know anything about him so yeah

terdon

1:40 PM

@jokerdino You might know them as Loooong

Quite a few mods across the network were de-modded because they didn't sign the agreement. I know of at least one, who just let his modship lapse. Not because he objected to the agreement, but because it was a good opportunity to step down silently and simply.

skullpatrol

Will meta make those stats available?

Should I ask?

technastic_tc

@jokerdino So you mean you know the details and are you under an NDA?

@terdon hmm..

jokerdino

can't tell when I don't know the details lol

He did not sign the new mod agreement, that much I am sure of

terdon

@skullpatrol You could, but I don't personally see any point in it. I mean, what would you learn if you got a list of mods who didn't sign the agreement?

technastic_tc

@terdon Will there be a notice period?

terdon

1:45 PM

@technastic_tc NDA!? Good grief! Let's not blow things out of proportion.

@technastic_tc ???

technastic_tc

@terdon ok.. Sorry.

jokerdino

NDA = No data available

Zanna

the question does not arise XD

skullpatrol

@terdon The proportion of dissatisfaction

terdon

SE announced the new mod agreement what, 6 months agoi? A year ago? All mods were given a long time to sign it. A few months at least. We were all warned that not signing it would mean that we couldn't continue being moderatos (being a mod requires the agreement).

After the waiting period ended (some time a couple of weeks ago?) SE demodded those mods who hadn't signed the new agreement.

jokerdino

1:46 PM

@terdon better purpose is to know if all the sites are adequately modded

technastic_tc

@terdon Before SE de-modding mods, they should be informing the mods and expecting a reply within a certain notice period right? Or will they de-mod immediately if they don't sign the agreement?

terdon

@jokerdino That is up to the individual sites. Many aren't, of course, but asking how many mods didn't sign the new agreement won't help you know how many sites need more mods.

@technastic_tc They did, that's what I said above. They gave us several months.

technastic_tc

@terdon ok..

Zanna

@technastic_tc they gave us like 3 months. They reached out to those who had issues with it personally, and tried hard to resolve them

technastic_tc

what was the difference between the old and new agreement?

@Zanna oh..

@jokerdino lol..

Zanna

1:48 PM

about 10 paragraphs hahaha

I mean the new one was quite a bit longer

terdon

43

Q: The new moderator agreement is now live for moderators to accept across the network

Today, we’re announcing that the new moderator agreement is live and the existing moderators are being asked to accept it. This has been a great collaboration to get from a draft in November 2019 to the final agreement in July 2020. It’s gone through several phases of review internally, including...

skullpatrol

10

A: Diamonds are not forever

There is no answer to this other than pure outrage.

@technastic_tc There are 5 points listed in the comments

technastic_tc

Is the mod agreement open for public to read?

terdon

Yes, of course.

skullpatrol

yup

jokerdino

1:55 PM

@technastic_tc yes

technastic_tc

Do share if possible.

terdon

askubuntu.com/legal/moderator-agreement

technastic_tc

@skullpatrol Read (past form) them.

terdon

Of course, it was right there in the meta post I linked to above.

Zanna

here's the old one for comparison

technastic_tc

1:57 PM

@Zanna Atleast it's smaller than privacy policy of companies.. lol..

jokerdino

Moderator agreement is different from privacy policy.

technastic_tc

@jokerdino yeah.. I know.. I'm referring to privacy policy, terms of use agreement which users agree for using any company's product (Not referring to SE in particular)

skullpatrol

@technastic_tc the mod also deleted his account

Zanna

@technastic_tc like where you scroll all the way to the bottom and click agree without reading anything?

license agreement haha

skullpatrol

TL;DR

technastic_tc

2:01 PM

@Zanna yeah.. that one..

@Zanna lol

The size of the previous agreement looks way too small in comparison to the new one

@terdon I didn't check.. my bad..

@terdon hmm..

skullpatrol

Loong leaving chemistry.se was a huge blow to the nuclear-chemistry tag, because that was his specialty

Zanna

I thought nuclear anything was physics territory :)

skullpatrol

It usually is, but he did work mostly in radiation chemistry also

technastic_tc

@terdon how many (typo)

Zanna

the ones having elections

technastic_tc

2:18 PM

@Zanna ?

Zanna

the sites that need more mods are the ones having elections

technastic_tc

@Zanna ok..

@Zanna the word elections reminded me of POTUS election..

Zanna

I don't know how many though... I mean I don't know how many mods each site has and needs. I think only Catija knows that

@technastic_tc haha you're not alone

Thomas Ward

2:35 PM

@technastic_tc I know why he's not a mod anymore. But I'm not allowed to give details.

and lets avoid politics here, okay?

technastic_tc

I don't feel that asking about a moderator quitting is politics in any way. But opinions do vary.

Thomas Ward

17 mins ago, by technastic_tc

@Zanna the word elections reminded me of POTUS election..

no but that reference pulls up 'politics' the moment you mention it

never said the mod quitting question was politics ;)

technastic_tc

oh.. okay..

Sorry.

@ThomasWard :)

@ThomasWard If you don't mind, what do you exactly mean by "not allowed"? Is it because of moral reasons or something else?

Thomas Ward

sips coffee and quietly chooses to vaguely reply

lets just say I know things that aren't public knowledge about the internal workings of moderatorship ;)

that's all i can say on it :)

terdon

@technastic_tc in general, whenever a mod knows something about a user that isn't public knowledge to everyone, then the mod will not share it. It's just basic decency and respect for privacy in most cases.

technastic_tc

2:43 PM

@terdon Fine. I'll shut my mouth.

terdon

lol, feel free to ask. Just bear in mind that often we won't be able to answer for the simple reason that some things are simply not ours to share.

Not because of any legal threat or anything, simply because if you tell me something in confidence, then it is not my place to share it with anyone else.

technastic_tc

@terdon got it!

Is the date of quitting public or private?

skullpatrol

makes sense

Thomas Ward

@technastic_tc it's safe to assume that if they didn't make a post about it publicly on Meta about quitting or such, it's private

(which answers your question outright)

... aaaand i'm out of coffee, time to brew more

technastic_tc

ok.

So if I look into stats, I can conclude that date of quitting must be somewhere between October 7 and November 6.