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2:03 AM

anime.stackexchange.com/q/59300/32925 someone please help me over this

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Anonymous

10:29 AM

Please don't keep asking the same question over and over. It's not very considerate of the time people have already put in trying to help you and answer your question.

Daniel Rigg

10:57 AM

@snailplane its a scene from an anime that I can't comprehend and I need help with it please

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ajsmart

12:48 PM

馬耳東風

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Daniel Rigg

4:07 PM

@snailplane please help me!

1 hour later…

Daniel Rigg

5:27 PM

@Chocolate I'm still not clear over that damn! scene about Ojousama character please help me!!!

ajsmart

Demanding help from volunteers seems like a good way to leave a bad impression.

Daniel Rigg

I'm overthinking about a scene that I can't comprehend so I'm frantically finding help okay?

kuchitsu

5:50 PM

It would be okay if she was a real person and you were her potential husband. As it is, your fixation on this scene doesn't seem okay. :D

Daniel Rigg

@kuchitsu please keep explaining about it

I just want to wrap my head around it

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Daniel Rigg

7:00 PM

@brocooli I'm still overthinking about that scene please help!

ajsmart

7:50 PM

Let me rephrase my last chat message here. It's a little rude to demand help from volunteers repetitively. This is particularly true when it's clear that the help you do receive is not thoroughly read and understood.

I believe that Broccoli-facemaskcloth has done a fairly good job at answering the question, but you aren't helping them/us understand where your problem is. It's like going to the doctor because of an internal injury, but not explaining where the injury is located in your body. It's really hard to elaborate on an answer if you can't help us understand your problem understanding the sentence in question.

Just take a breath, relax, and then explain what part of the sentence doesn't make sense. If someone thinks they can help you out, they will reach out and help you. Be patient.

Oh, and also explain why it doesn't make sense. Include your attempts at translation/understanding, and why it doesn't fit in your mind.

Daniel Rigg

its just a question of whether the Ojousama character rejected him or not

based on the lines she said

thats what I'm trying to solve

@ajsmart please help me solve this scene that I can't comprehend

someone please help me over this: anime.stackexchange.com/questions/59300/…

ajsmart

8:56 PM

The answer to your question makes it pretty clear that she did NOT reject him.

Direct quote from Dimitri Mx's answer:

"To answer your question

"Did she just reject him?

"No, she did not just reject him. On the contrary, she became embarrassed after realizing she did not only just confess her love, but actually proposed, in the sense of a marriage proposal."

Daniel Rigg

but this is what gets me all confused when she said this line [あぁー私 (わたくし) ったら、もう何を言ってるんでしょうか？]

ajsmart

Its kindof a "I can't believe I just said that." moment

Daniel Rigg

isn't it ''I should not have said that'' in her case?

ajsmart

You could maybe take it that way, but she is in no way recanting.

again from Dimitri MX:

"A comparable gesture would be people hitting their own head after doing something considered stupid."

A better translation of もう何を言ってるんでしょうか？ would be, "What am I saying?"

but she is NOT walking the marriage proposal back

Daniel Rigg

shes an Ojousama character so this what the person said about when I discussed with him before

-broccoli- she only thinks her action (openly confessing to somebody) is not appropriate for an Ojosama

ajsmart

9:10 PM

hence: "what am I saying"

look, daniel. If you aren't satisfied with the translation, maybe its because you aren't satisfied with the conclusion of this scene.

Daniel Rigg

I am just confused with the scene thats all so I'm only trying to be clear over this scene

ajsmart

Dimitri Mx's answer pretty well satisfied that.

I think your problem lies well before this scene then, if that's the case. You probably misunderstood something from a previous scene.

Daniel Rigg

Aside from vocabulary, an analysis of the quote evokes a number of literary conventions, which find their source in traditional Japanese culture.

1.This seems to be a standard manga or dorama style declaration of the speaker's feelings for another person お慕い申しております (the sentiment) and 気持ちをお伝えしたくて (the confirmation of the speaker's desire to convey said sentiment)

2.Request -- if the other person would agree もしよかったら -- for "the person's hand in marriage", since official documents are traditionally exchanged, as in a contract or, at least, here, a formal vow, an "eternal promise", i.e. 永遠の契…

please explain what this all means

ajsmart

You just posted a previous answer, and asked for clarification. This is a LOT of material, and I don't even know what you are struggling to understand here.

Judging by the lack of responses related to this question, I'm getting the feeling that you should just let it drop.

Daniel Rigg

and have you seen the video? because I can show it to you and you give perfect explanation

ajsmart

9:19 PM

(see previous message)

Daniel Rigg

what?! you don't want to see the video?

ajsmart

I never said that I have/haven't seen it.

I said that the answers you've received have all been really good.

I have nothing to add that they haven't already said.

Daniel Rigg

yes but I still feel like I'm not clear over the scene yet

ajsmart

This will seem off topic, but let me tell you about another user a while back.

He fixated on a term that drove pretty much everyone crazy for over a month. Mention of the term (and sometimes the user) is pretty much a taboo topic now.

I see a lot of parallels between that user and his fascination with the (unspeakable) term, and your fixation on this scene.

Sometimes, it's okay to let things drop.

Daniel Rigg

I know but I had to because I was overthinking about that scene

please let show you the video and please explain

ajsmart

9:27 PM

at risk of sounding like a broken record... I have nothing to add that they haven't already said.

Daniel Rigg

you're saying you don't want me to show you the video?

ajsmart

And before you ask me to explain it, I feel obligated to let you know that I'm going to be leaving the chat for a while.