@AndrasDeak some years ago, I think this actually happened in Shadow's den, I told @shadow I didn't like the term "brony" because it was applied to too many different meaning, without a real notion of cause.

Looking at this article, you can clearly understand what I mean.

Every fandom has multiple sides, and bad content is everywhere.

MLP... you can clearly see this.

you have people that create content like Snowdrop (a fan made 20min episode about a blind pony and her struggles to be accepted) and people who create "content" like Cupcakes (a creepypasta story about.... murder and torture from what I know).

And these factions are often fighting each other.

@Derpy yup

@ShadowWizardWearingMask yep, and btw I am not even sure the origin of the word is what I said back then.

@Derpy yeah, sorry, I should've been more specific. I meant mlp-related fora rather than mlp enthusiasts; I suspect there's a difference. The article I mentioned talks about 4chan boards specifically.

@Derpy so you think it was coined by pony haters?

I shouldn't be too surprised about nazis and trolls on the internet, but sometimes I still am

@ShadowWizardWearingMask I doubt it

@ShadowWizardWearingMask nope, but there are various theories

(e.g. like "homo" - created in order to degrade others? I really have no idea about the origins of neither to be honest, just using something very familiar and very degrading)

@Derpy is there also history? reading

> coined circa 2010 on 4chan forum boards

heh

Look at this page, you will notice that it originated on the same board @AndrasDeak mentioned (and I prefer to avoid to)

I heard some claims that actually it was based on the name of an user there, and that the "brother pony" thing was just a coincidence.

@Derpy I think @Clem also used it in a bad manner in Den, right?

Anyway, I don't really care.

@ShadowWizardWearingMask was that smart user that somehow managed to evade all flags about homophobia, discrimination and such, and was also ignored when reported via "contact us" and by direct mail to a (undisclosed for privacy) community manager?

@Derpy you can trash my message if you want to

The one that also immediately became "bad guy" when I linked his message on the Tavern and the whole room reacted in disgust?

yep, talk about SE "we care but only when real PR damage is involved"

"if no one sees that, no problem"

Or I can flag it for redaction

@AndrasDeak don't worry.

I just mean I don't like to talk about that place for it is basically a far-west everyone-does-what-they-want land.

Weren't some of the "users" there involved in the harassing of a Japanese idol/model/whatever years ago that ended up with her suicide?

Well there's a board there that calls itself the asshole of the internet. 'Nuff said.

mind you, probably those are rotten apples in a larger group, but the problem is that probably there is no watch dog there. Anyway.... if you don't mind, I would call for a topic change.

Sure thing. And my message about trashing stands indefinitely

New subject

:P

@AndrasDeak have some of them. Don't know if I will actually complete the set, for now they are just part of a bigger collection of anime figures.

Seems like the start of a neverending money-grab set

@AndrasDeak you basically defined the whole world of "anime figure"

anyway.. yep, Kotobukiya was quite smarter than Hasbro in identifying a potential market there.

Hasbro figures are quite "poor" in quality.

@Derpy hehe

For the ponies, you have few choices and most are third party licensed product (save some honorable exceptions)

I figured if there are nice and finite anime and endless filler anime the same might hold for figurines

@AndrasDeak .... just look at One Piece. You have tons of figures for every new story arc and characters.

But that isn't enough... they had to went further and basically do fanservice sets.

See: Megahouse B.B. limited sets.

and then bootlegs - bootlegs everywhere.

By bootlegs you mean unlicensed third-party merch?

not just that, I mean unlicensed copies of actual products

Ah...

@Derpy this guy, and no worry he's gone all by himself since then...

sometime you can spot those very easily, sometime.... not as much.

At least I see those as a different kind of problem. On one hand you have sleazy money-siphoning official merch, and then whatever you have, you have knock-offs too. The latter is not too specific to the industry and is probably mostly avoidable if you use mainstream sources. Or so I imagine, I don't have any figurines whatsoever.

Well, even if we forget about the fact that they are unlicensed and therefore they shouldn't be sold, the point is that the buyer often can't tell them apart easily so they could be tricked into buying a fake at full price.

Well, yeah. As I said, business as usual.

that said, in some cases you have ulicensed products that only exist as unlicensed

Olyfactory is quite known for producing MLP plushes that don't exist in any other form.

that's a bat :P

Does hasbro tolerate that? They don't strike me as anything nicer than Nintendo

@AndrasDeak that is a bat pony, taken from a very specific episode of the comic.

@AndrasDeak depends on the alignment of some random, undisclosed set of planets.Sometime they do, sometime they don't.

@Derpy Ah

some project can live for years, some get sued as soon as a screenshot goes online

A friend of mine told me about the Pony Countdown a while back, and how Hasbro shut it down, demonstrating that they are "no-bros" :P

and the cover of the issue...

lol

I can see "Lugosi" on the apple coffin; nice touch

@AndrasDeak please notice that Twilight is actually dressed as "Lestat" from the Vampire Chronicles and there is no character from "Twilight" (the book, not the pony) in there.

I'm not that good with vampire literature

the "sparkling" in "twilight sparkling" seemed like a reference to twilight the book

There's also the The Twilight Saga, but doubt it got anything to do with MLP.... ;)

@AndrasDeak doubt it. AFAIK, the writers seems to take every opportunity to reinforce the fact that they aren't fans of the Twilight books.

So perhaps sparkling as in cider...

Well, I think it was confirmed that Applejack name was indeed based on the liquor.

It probably also explain why in an episode she gets turned into Apple Tiny.

Apple Tiny -> Appletini -> Apple Martini.

didn't know there was a liquor by that name

taken from wikipedia, see on the left.

right :P

ah, the whisky of ciders

In the meantime, my week is starting as badly as usual.

It is too much to ask for a little luck, just for a change?

:(

Hope somehow something gets better for you soon...

I think my only hope is to find a better workplace.

Here... it is just everybody for themselves.

I figured you were already trying to do that...

How are prospects for that where you live? Or perhaps some full remote options considering the global situation?

@AndrasDeak wish I could find some good full remote option.

Then... Shog was full remote, right?

No idea

But full remote options have skyrocketed, or so I've heard

@AndrasDeak Don't know. Furthermore, it is unclear for how long this will be a thing.

You need a job now so that's alright :)

Well, I could do with a position that causes less stress/troubles. But changing to a remote position that will be revoked in a month or two would be shooting myself in the foot.

AFK for a little - be back in about 30'

I wouldn't expect full remote opportunities (at decent places) to be transient... but I wouldn't really know, I'm in academia

@AndrasDeak there are many things I wouldn't expect.

true

For what it's worth I live in a country where workers have rights

I wouldn't expect laws to protect companies that thinks of they (human) resources as packages that you can send on trips like they have no life.

I work to live. I don't live to work.

If I can also get a work I like that's a plus.

But I am not a slave building a pyramid.

Yet, "modern workplace" is a synonym of business trip, required extra time as needed, extra-course for learning credits you have to do in your spare time, can be called-back during work-off day if required and so on

it depends a lot on the company, at least here

do you also want me to harvest some cotton while I'm at it???

Now with Corona it's moot, many people just don't have any job, and would love to even go harvest cotton, just give them something... :)

:/

What a (censored) world we made

@Andras @Derpy I wonder, do governments at your place give compensation for those who lost their jobs due to CorVid19? Here we got just a kick in our [censored].

(well not me personally, but that's just luck.)

The irony is that our government is brand new, elected during Corona and was built with clear goal to fight Corona, and it's doing exactly the opposite, in all aspects.

@ShadowWizardWearingMask with all my rants about "how I am not really fond about my country"... you have to ask?

my government has devised the perfect plan to reduce the number of new cases to.

You simply have to cut searching.

It was so simple.

@Derpy well in a place with such horrible PM and even worse government, I just wonder if it can get any worse...

@Derpy yeah we're going there too, as they ran out of options.

But still, the damage is done.

And they do nothing to fix it, that's the problem.

@ShadowWizardWearingMask here they went for the "crisis is a thing of the past" approach

@Derpy and people with no money and/or job also became "past"? :(

Media here keeps bringing examples of awesome plans and governments giving people all they need, but guess they just collect some "best examples" from over the world.

(media here is trying to take our PM down for over a decade.)

I take it Benjamin is still not in jail then? :P

@ShadowWizardWearingMask what do you have against corvids?

Our country had something about wages... I never paid enough attention to know the details. I think it was aimed at employers, not employees. But there were some citizen-facing steps too, such as putting a hold on evictions and personal bank loan interests

And making it easier to buy your medication with a prescription

@AndrasDeak far far far from it..... he used Corona to evade it.

@ShadowWizardWearingMask look... the mayor of my city... a border city, with big problems related to that (we already have BIG problems with illegal immigration, now put that on top of COVID).... you know what is his top plan for now? Building a gondola lift.

o_O

During a world level pandemic... he is thinking about a gondola lift. This is the big announcement he did on live broadcast on the regional TV channel about... a month ago?

Kudos for the comments he got live since they also had live Send-your-SMS

Sometime I think that a potted plant would do a better job than many of our actual politicians

@Derpy re chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/50457999#50457999 : for reference rene is an absolute nice guy :)

@AndrasDeak ?

Just came across that message and comment

(actually, will have to wait a little)

@AndrasDeak yep, just kinda surprised you found that specific post now

@Derpy ah, I see, sorry. I was trying to discreetly figure out where you roughly are to be able to place your political/governmental remarks better

came across that during my stalking

@AndrasDeak Hint: EU zone.

Yeah, that's where my trail ended :) But I did mean it when I said "discreetly", I don't want you to add more info even if you were to trust me

(but I think I've got it)

on an unrelated notice....

either someone saw me, or someone had the same weird idea....

What is that pic a reference to? :)

the face reminds me of Dragonball

Custom character in Dragonball Xenoverse 2

Ah, so I wasn't really off

But also a quite good match for this one ^

That's pretty surprising because I have very limited exposure to anime

@Derpy the former looks scarier

@AndrasDeak gets funny if you chose the Sayajin race and therefore she is able to turn Super Sayan God Blue.....

that said it goes full circle....

look at this clip...

The only edited part... is the music and sound effect.

oh, nice, I just realized that in the old Ova "Megaman Upon a Star" Roll English voice actor... is Pinkie Pie.

Another movie I won't be able to look at without laughing again.

and wait..... Mrs. Kobayashi is actually Spike too :P

@b_jonas btw, before I forget again.... Since you know PPG better than me...

I suppose the original PPG never piloted a robot, and certainly not a Getter style one...

@Derpy What is that?

@AndrasDeak You know the Powerpuff Girls?

A Carton Network show.... quite famous, had a recent reboot (not as good as the original, but you better refer to @b_jonas for info about that)

Yes, that part I get. And I vaguely know of a reboot. But that doesn't look like it.

That's from the reboot??

@AndrasDeak well.. nope... but there is something that few know...

Phew

there is a 52 episode long miniserie... aired in Japan.....

Powerpuff Girl Z

Heh

There's no sane PPG universe where mechs make sense

Wow, Sailor PPG

@AndrasDeak PPG Z is moved to TOKYO, of course super robots make sense.

Fair enough

also in this version the girls aren't actually a result of an experiment and thus artificially created. The experiment just made a big explosion that gave the girls super powers.

How convenient ;)

So, in this case their origin is more similar to that of their antagonist Mojo.

Did Jojo still cause it all?

nope, he was a regular monkey in a zoo this time

anyway, he was luckier than is regular couterpart.

Is he on stilts? :D

anyway, I think that Dynamo Z - the robot from above - first makes its appearance in episode 50

because obviously they used Him as the show final villain.

Ah yes, the BBEG

@AndrasDeak do you prefer Marvel Disk Wars? Also knows as "I chose you! Thor-chu, use thunder!"

@Derpy I don't think so :P