Math Meta Chat - 2020-04-18

@RithikKapoor Is there a reason why when I press on your icon and then click on "user profile on math.stackexchange.com" I get Page not found?

Rithik Kapoor

@Zacky not sure

@RithikKapoor but you do have a MSE account?

Rithik Kapoor

yes

but I have not posted anything yet

Magic_Isa

12:17 AM

Indeed says Page no found but if one clicks on user profile displays 602 points on math.stack

strange :)

I believe this would be your account and somehow it didn't update yet in chatroom.. Anyway welcome to MSE :)

Rithik Kapoor

12:33 AM

@Zacky yeah that is my account

That is weird so long for it to update

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amWhy

2:26 AM

@RithikKapoor Deleted account, it seems.

6 hours later…

Q: Upcoming Feature: New Question Close Experience

8:30 AM

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CLARIFYING UPDATE Thanks everyone for the thoughtful feedback. I’ve read through much of it and there are a few things that stand out to me. First, I want to clarify since this didn't quite come across, none of this, except for what we felt were least risky which is outlined as phase 1, has be...

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Q: Goodbye "off-topic", hello "community-specific reasons"?

This is what I now see when I vote for closing: i.e. the "off-topic" reason has been replaced with "A community-specific reason". Is this permanent (and somehow I missed the announcement), or is it an experiment (for which I also missed the announcement)? Doesn't seem to relate to the New Que...

discussion close-reasons user-experience

A: Goodbye "off-topic", hello "community-specific reasons"?

The comments are... mostly correct. This was a change I pushed for so let me take you through my thinking. Years ago, I answered this question on MSE: Categories other than "off-topic" should allow custom close reasons - It was a problem I ran into on several of the sites I participated on and i...

Q: Please reinstate the words "off-topic" into the closing dialog

Recently, the button for "off-topic" in the closing dialog was changed to "A community-specific reason". To be clear, I don't disagree with the gist of the change, since "off-topic" was rather confusing and on many sites, the definition used by SE isn't really the same as the literal definition o...

feature-request close-reasons off-topic close-dialog

Q: change in voting to close

I noticed today that the pop-up screens for voting to close a question have acquired a new layer. Clicking "close" used to produce a pop-up with checkboxes indicating various reasons for closing. Now it produces a pop-up with only some of those reasons plus a new "community-specific" option. Clic...

discussion close-reasons vote-to-close

To be fair, people have complained in the past about some stuff which was listed under off-topic: A feature requested for the purpose of avoiding unintentional newbie-biting.

OTOH, the closing dialog hav been changed quite a bit since then, I am not really sure whether those changes were for the better: New recommended close reason for questions that are “missing context”.

3 hours later…

11:16 AM

It seems to me that the banner still says off-topic though.

But I did not check carefully.

@Zacky End of February 2019 as mentioned in another room: chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/17403/2020/4/18

@MartinSleziak but is this even true? One had to chose "off-topic" and then something specific. Nothing really changed.

And the reason where arguably not all of the form that "off-topic" captures them well.

I mean the "tree" of selections stayed the same, just one intermediate node changed name.

@quid As far as I can tell, this was the change now.

Of course, there was also the previous change. (Mentioned in the post by Mathematics mods.)

11:32 AM

Maybe we are talking at crossed purposes what I meant to say is that "the pop-up screens for voting to close a question have acquired a new layer" is not true for our site. Maybe it is true for MO though.

As "Now it produces a pop-up with only some of those reasons plus [..]" was true since a long time.

Looking at a screenshot on an older post on meta.MO, I would say that changes over there were the same as here. From December 2019: List of close reasons has changed?

If we ignore changing "off-topic" to "community-specific", it seems to be the same as the screenshot in the recent post.

Thanks. That what I assumed. I assume one could argue that "off-topic" was the reason, and one could specify it more later, and this changed. But in practice the number of clicks needed to the end seems more crucial to me.

Which stayed the same.

@MartinSleziak Yes, and this is the first one from MSE who had that message I think.

Do you happen to be aware of a query that shows the most viewed questions that were not in HNQ? (since 28 February 2019)

11:54 AM

@Zacky I might have made some mistakes, but I tried to create a query you asked for: Most viewed questions that were not in the HNQ.

@MartinSleziak thank you!

BTW there is a separate room for the HNQ filter: Discussion about the HNQ block-list voting for math.se.

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Xander Henderson

8:41 PM

This is a very strange edit... I wonder if the edit was made just so that I won't appear as the most recent editor...? Weird...

9:03 PM

@XanderHenderson perhaps you overthink a little.. who even cares about appearing as the most recent editor? Also it's easier to read having a new paragraph for the other idea of "what others noted" there so it's not really an insignificant edit.

Arnaud D.

Maybe the author came back to the answer to see the edit and thought upon seeing it that it would be better with the break...

Xander Henderson

9:25 PM

@Zacky I certainly don't. I just find the edit to be very odd.

9:42 PM

@XanderHenderson I saw edits explicitly explained as being made to "reclaim ownership" thus that's possible.

@XanderHenderson why? Is adding a new paragraph inappropriate there?

Xander Henderson

10:34 PM

@Zacky I never said that the edit was inappropriate. It just seemed so very minor, and it occurred so directly after I commented, that it seemed weird. That's all. Honestly, I probably shouldn't even have brought it up---it is just a silly observation I made.