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4:00 PM
is it possible to remove a flag?
 
@msPeachy nope
 
Wait a second
Why is @jokerdino going on autoignore?
 
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Yeah you are
It's very funny and confusing to read the transcript when your ignored
 
@jokerdino thank you. Gotta hit the bed. Good night guys...:P
 
4:11 PM
@msPeachy Good Night
Good Night @jokerdino
 
@jokerdino Close-voted. 1 more vote needed on each now (this and this and this).
2 more close votes needed to dupe this to this. (As @AnwarShah said, OP has confirmed the solution there worked.)
This question...
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Q: How do I make GRUB appear at startup without holding shift?

DakotaI have a dual boot Windows 7 and Ubuntu. Whenever I start my computer it will go straight into linux unless I hold shift to go into GRUB. I am constantly having to change between operating systems and my keyboad configuration doesn't allow for my to press shift at startup. Is there a way I can...

...should probably be duped and have answers merged to this question (first step is to close as duplicate):
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Q: How to change the time for OS selection menu in GRUB?

Shirshendu BhowmickI have Windows 7 and Ubuntu 12.04 in my system and i saw that the default time for os selection menu is only 10 sec, as i am new to Linux can anyone tell me how to increase this time?

This community-wiki answer providing details about what the OP said solved the problem needs a couple upvotes so the apparently abandoned question no longer appears open:
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A: machine froze during upgrade to 12.04

Eliah KaganThe original poster here, SplashHit, indicated in a comment that this question on SuperUser answered the question. In that question, the OP followed this "guide" posted on Launchpad (which is actually the original version of this bug report by TJ). rumtscho, the OP of that SuperUser question, h...

 
4:30 PM
@EliahKagan Voted before
BBT
Good Night
 
Bounty offered: How to easily delete snippets using Kdenlive? http://askubuntu.com/questions/162696/how-to-easily-delete-snippets-using-kdenlive?atw=1 #videoeditor
 
@TheInterrupter. Thanks, You are doing your job nicely. good.
A rewardless obidient worker. I'll give you +200 bounty if you can create an account
and prove that, you exist in this world.
and you know, what are your doing exactly.
and answer one of my unsolved questions.
and tell me, how you choose questions
If I become a mod, I'll give you a good name.
@TheInterrupter please interrupt more frequently.
bye
 
5:09 PM
Interesting question, I can see how some people would find this quite useful:
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Q: How do I create deb package for Oracle JDK?

tachyonsHow do I create a deb package for Oracle JDK for personal use?

 
yes, that's interesting.
But the normal package with .sh is much convenient with a script to update java component. I thought
 
@AnwarShah If Oracle provided a deb download on their website, then pretty much everyone in Debian, Ubuntu, and other Debian-based systems would download that instead of the the executable installer. So if you're installing Java on a large number of your own systems, it would be handy to be able to make that yourself. Also, a properly constructed deb would use the Debian alternatives system and would automatically run update-alternatives on installation and removal.
I do agree that this is not something most users would want, though--if you're installing it on a single computer, then it's just more work. And you'd have to make a new package for every version that comes out.
 
Yes, That's why i commented that. otherwise, I prefer deb. He wanted for personal use.
@EliahKagan BTW I have a question
If i want to create an iso with restricted codecs and flash and java, and distribute it with sourceforge, will be be illegal?
Or i should simply add a notice?
 
@luisalvarado - congrats on passing the 20K+ mark - well done sir!
 
@AnwarShah Well, I think he said "personal use" to clarify that is is not for distribution. One of the reasons to clarify that is that distributing recent Oracle Java JVM's would be against their license (but packaging it for yourself, and probably even for your whole company to use in-house, would probably be fine ...but I am not a lawyer and it's been some time since I've read that license).
@AnwarShah It depends on exactly how they are "restricted." Oracle Java's license agreement for quite some time (I think since jdk6u17 or something, but that may not be right) has prohibited redistribution. So that would violate the license.
 
5:21 PM
I wanted ubuntu-restricted-extras, openjdk, adobeflash etc.
all are in ubuntu repository
 
My understanding is that Adobe Flash is distributed under similar terms--you cannot redistribute the actual Flash runtime, without violating the license. Permission is not granted to do so for Flash or Java, so it would probably be against copyright law to do it. (That would be a tort rather than a crime, though some countries including the US have limited cases where copyright infringement is a crime too. At that level of detail, you would need to consult a lawyer.)
 
@EliahKagan that question sounds like either a)a challenge, b)a packaging request, or c) a rep gold-mine
 
The OpenJDK is not restricted at all.
 
@EliahKagan I wanted to create an AptOnCD volume/iso with all those. I think it is ok
 
5:23 PM
The packages in multiverse that provide Adobe Flash don't actually contain Flash. They contain scripts that automatically download and install it from authorized sources. That's why it's called flashplugin-installer.
@AnwarShah Adobe actually does distribute Flash as adobe-flashplugin through the partner repository. But unauthorized redistribution of those .deb files would, I believe, violate the license.
 
but there is a package adobe-flashplugin
 
that raises an interesting question...if software center escalates to root, does it set display :0 or not so much?
 
@EliahKagan thanks, your message just appeared after my pressed enter
 
Yes, I figured. :-)
@AnwarShah But some "restricted" packages are restricted by things other than the copyright and licenses covering the software they contain.
 
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Q: Linking Encouragement

SeperoThis isn't really a question, but I'm not exactly sure where to put it. I would like to request stack exchange linking rewards. Everyday many of the same questions are asked. Users that are experienced will link to a Post where the question has already been answered. If the link is put in as a c...

 
5:25 PM
the main question is about restricted-extras. I thinks it is ok
@AskUbuntuMeta, your name too should be changed
 
For example, there are packages that provide codecs that implement algorithms covered by software patents in some places and not others (and even where they are covered, there are generally exceptions for research and other purposes, plus you might actually have a patent license).
@AnwarShah If you're providing packages provided publicly through main, restricted, universe, or multiverse, I think that's fine. Some packages install software over the Internet by fetching files that are not authorized for distribution (like flashplugin-installer and ttf-mscorefonts-installer). If you were to include those files, then distribution the iso might be a problem. But you can still include those packages.
 
@EliahKagan Thanks. Get the point now
 
just an fyi, nobody has pressed charges on linux mint yet that i'm aware of...
 
so, I can't distribute msttfcorefonts, flash-plugins...etc.
since flash-plugin is in partners repository.
 
@aking1012 Why would anyone? Does Mint actually contain files like recent Oracle JVM's, the Flash plugin itself (rather than a downloader), and font files themselves that are not authorized for third-party redistribution?
 
5:30 PM
I believe they include at the very least flash (not java) and some of the more sketchy multimedia codecs
 
@AnwarShah You can redistribute the packages in multiverse that provide them, but it would not be covered under the license, and thus would probably be copyright infringement, to redistribute the copyrighted content itself.
I am not a lawyer.
 
nvr mind. I am questioning this to be clear.
You have 40 votes on licence tag
:-)
 
@Eliah was absolutely right. I was just dumping out there something that puzzles me
 
@AnwarShah I understand. I certainly welcome such questions, and I am pleased to help. I'm saying I'm not a lawyer not to discourage you ...but instead because it is very important to me that you know I am not a lawyer and that what I say mustn't be taken like advice from a lawyer. :-)
 
@aking1012 I too puzzled with this one "If mint can do this, why can't ubuntu do that?"
 
5:33 PM
Ubuntu/Canonical have more to lose. Mint doesn't
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Q: How can I rename a folder using the terminal?

MagpieI need to rename it in the terminal because it is in the root directory

boo --^
 
@EliahKagan Thanks. I consider this as a discussion.
@aking1012 why? easy rep. give an answer.
 
one does not simply mv /
read the content of the question
 
I mean a folder in /, such as /folder
 
oh. well that could be different. you're still talking about moving things that might be mount-points though
 
yes, may be some one created a folder, and he now wants to rename it
 
5:37 PM
i doubt that, but i could be mistaken
 
people usually prefer to put things in root folder
 
It's actually in /var/www (see recent comment).
It seems that perhaps I answered too soon. ;-)
 
@aking1012. see ^^. we are talking about the question and Eliah writing an answer :-)
 
@aking1012 In my opinion, questions by novices that ask how to do something that is a really bad idea (from a technical perspective) should be mercilessly upvoted, since we really want people to ask about that stuff here first where we can explain why that it's bad, instead of just rushing ahead and doing it. (Of course, the question should still be a good question, to get upvotes. It should be clear, for instance. I am not asserting that we should all feel obligated to upvote this.)
 
"people" should never put things in root. ~/, /opt, and /tmp are the only places non-root should touch.

and yes, i just try not to answer things that will lead to broken. someone cited me by name on a launchpad bug for "telling them to remove the nvidia driver". obviously i meant through jockey, but they apt-get removed nvidia-*
 
5:43 PM
> should be mercilessly upvoted,
means downvoted?
 
No, I mean upvoted. And I explain why. We want people to ask those questions, so we can "set them straight."
 
i take your point
 
@aking1012 Well, I think we should answer by telling not to do it and why. And then those cautionary answers should be super-duper upvoted. (But I am not saying you should upvote my answer in this case ...since there is now more information that renders it obsolete. I may either delete it or edit it, soon.)
 
@EliahKagan. why? I don't see any reason to delete it.
 
@AnwarShah I mean, if other answers provide the same cautionary information and also answer the question about /var/www. I don't mean I'm about to delete my answer just now.
 
5:46 PM
IMHO, it should not be deleted. because a novice user may require it.
 
So I seem to recall that we have an earlier question about how to modify /var/www. Given the OP's comment, if we can find that, this should perhaps just be duped to that. Does anyone know if I'm remembering rightly?
@AnwarShah Don't worry. I won't rush to delete.
 
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Q: How do I paste the contents of a folder into the www root folder?

MagpieI want to take the contents of home/magpie/xoops-2.5.5/htdocs/ and put it into var/www using the terminal. I don't want to go downloading anything I don't need.

 
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Q: Whats the simplest way to edit and add files to "/var/www"?

k_grahamHaving installed the web server is there a simple way to set a user able to use the graphic interface to copy files and directories to the local web server /var/www I gave myself administrative privileges in Ubuntu but it still doesn't allow copies.

 
@aking1012 Yes, I think that's good as a canonical question.
 
his question was too basic.
just wanted to copy content from a folder to /var/www folder.
 
5:51 PM
@aking1012 I've commented and close-voted as a duplicate of that.
 
same and did a vote reversal since there was an edit and the question was clarified
 
Can we add a phrase in the master question to move files from home folder to /var/www. Is it necessary?
 
if the user was added to the group, they could do it in nautilus...thus eliminating the need for the terminal entirely
 
I have a question about edit.
I saw, re-tagging also allow me to reverse my vote.
I find this somewhat unnecessary, since the content of the question was not changed.
 
that's a meta.so question not an au question i think
 
6:03 PM
@aking1012 It could be asked in Meta.AU though.
 
Should I ask?
 
@AnwarShah I would encourage you to. But I should disclose that I have an answer in mind already. "It seems to me that re-tagging may clarify the meaning of a question, which could cause someone to change their mind about a vote (either up or down)."
 
It could. And what's the worst that can happen? It gets closed... But I agree with @Eliah on the answer
 
OK. I am asking
 
Hello again. How do you prevent Ubuntu from trying to start X when it boots? I want to force it to stay in console mode.
Also, when you log in over SSH as a user who is logged in on the remote machine when you connect, do commands like startx affect the logged-in user?
 
6:15 PM
you used to be able to edit inittab and set default runlevel to not 5, but things have changed. i don't really know how to do that any more since single-user, single-user networking, multi-user, gui runlevels got nuked
 
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Q: Should re-tagging really be considered as edit?

Anwar ShahI have seen recently that, When I re-tag a question, It is considered as edit. Then I can even reverse my vote on that question. I have a feeling that, It should not be considered as edit since, The actual meaning of the question is not changed. Also I think, very few of the answerer get informat...

I need to go. good night.
 
@Wackidev you can run more than one x instance, but there might be some weird issue with a ~/.something/something.lock
 
@aking1012 it gives me an error when I try over SSH
Yeah; that's what I get
 
so kill the process?
 
If I do that will it go back to console mode? hopeful
 
6:19 PM
it would just kill the process.
 
Awww. Is there a way I could start the console again?
 
you could use jockey to switch back to noveau, then you'ld be back where you were yesterday
 
confused :) What's jockey?
 
no wait...you compiled the binary nvidia driver didn't you
 
Yeah.
 
6:20 PM
bad idea. hard to support
 
Well, it got farther than it did before. It now fails while trying to launch X instead of not trying.
But it's sort of negative progress since I now can't access the console.
Well, I'm kind of stuck. My guess is that I need to get access to some kind of log so that I can find out where it goes awry. Any suggestions for how to do that?
 
logs are generally in /var/log
x is Xorg.*.log
 
xorg.0.log?
 
sure
might want to check dmesg too to see if the driver is bailing
so if you don't mind my asking, why is it you "need" 8.04
 
OK. Do I open these with vim or is there some easy way to copy them here for further browsing from the safety of TextEdit?
 
6:26 PM
scp
it looks a lot like an ssh command, but has a file url on the back
 
type scp NameOfFile?
Never mind
Wikipedia to the rescue
 
scp copies files between hosts on a network. It uses ssh(1) for data transfer, and uses the same authentication and provides the same security as ssh(1). Unlike rcp(1), scp will ask for passwords or passphrases if they are needed for authentication. Any file name may contain a host and user specification to indicate that the file is to be copied to/from that host. Copies between two remote hosts are permitted. The options are as follows: -1 Forces scp to use protocol 1. -2 Forces scp to use protocol 2. -4 Forces scp to use IPv4 addresses only. -6 Forces scp to use IPv6 addresses only. -B Selects batch mode (prevents asking for passwords or passphrases). -C Compression enable. Passes the -C flag to ssh(1) to enable compression. -c cipher Selects the cipher to use for encrypting the data transfer. This option is directly
 
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Q: Should re-tagging really be considered as edit?

Anwar ShahI have seen recently that, When I re-tag a question, It is considered as edit. Then I can even reverse my vote on that question. I have a feeling that, It should not be considered as edit since, The actual meaning of the question is not changed. Also I think, very few of the answerer get informat...

 
use man pages or ubuntu community documentation. wikipedia is nice, but "linux" answers aren't always "ubuntu" answers
just my 2 cents
 
OK. Thanks. I was just going off Google.
scp: /var/log: not a regular file
 
6:30 PM
needs a file not a directory
 
Oh. Thought it could copy a dir after what I read. Just proved you quite right. :)
 
You can use scp -r. But you probably don't want to. (Unless you want to copy the entire /var/log directory with all its contents.)
 
@Wackidev that --^
 
this I wrote the other day on scp: askubuntu.com/a/162706/3940
 
That's what I was trying to do, actually. Thanks @EliahKagan
Yay it worked! :)
 
6:33 PM
@Wackidev Cool. Just keep in mind, though, that with scp -r, the default behavior is to follow symbolic links. Probably not a problem in this particular situation, but it's a good thing to keep in mind, because it's not necessarily intuitive that copying a directory to a remote location could write more data to the remote location than the total size of the directory locally.
 
@EliahKagan thanks for the tip.
 
@Wackidev: because sometimes permissions are not exactly cloned by scp you may consider putting the file to copy in a tarball first, or use rsync (with its 10000000 options)
 
@Takkat thanks. I'll keep that in mind.
 
rsync is so nicely configurable you don't want anything else
 
Well, @aking1012, the only thing that seemed to go wrong in the Xorg log was that ACPI failed to initialize. Would that affect my display?
 
6:40 PM
i wouldn't think so, but i've never had that happen
 
To check out dmesg, would I read dmesg, dmesg.0, one of the tarballs or all of them?
 
just dmesg for the latest i believe
if you're dead set on getting this thing working without an upgrade to something supported you could always edit your x config to use vesa for the time being...just to get you in the gui
 
OK. Is it difficult?
 
it's a simple-ish flat text file
 
[ 0.000000] Kernel command line: root=/dev/sdb3 ro vesa video=vesafb
that's from dmesg. Am I already using it?
 
6:45 PM
seems you're trying to
 
Nothing problematic in dmesg as far as I can tell.
 
@HorstJENS - I just popped over to check your profile on SO and saw your pygame answer. You might enjoy taking a look at Panda3D. I'm enjoying it, and it has some interesting sample programs and such.
 
@aking1012 how is speed in Panda? I switched to Unity from Pygame 'cause Python was too slow to run anything complex. :)
Also, what line do I need to change to enable vesa?
 
Well Panda just recently got a speed boost from letting python run in one core and graphics etc in another or three
@Wackidev looks like it "should" be enabled. i'ld use jockey to install the nvidia driver package then remove it to blow out your compiled driver and get you back to at least a kind of working terminal
 
Jockey link please? :)
 
6:58 PM
idk if 8.x had jockey or not though...in recent distributions it's co-named "Additional Hardware" or some such.
 
This question is a duplicate...
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Q: How to upgrade/downgrade from 12.04 to 11.10

OscarTExact Duplicate: How to roll back ubuntu to a previous version Now this might sound stupid, but coming from 12.04 I would like to upgrade/downgrade to 11.10. I can't do a fresh install because that would get rid of roughly 3GB of data I would have to download again. The upgrade option on the li...

...of this question:
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Q: How to roll back Ubuntu to a previous version?

iUngiI just installed a new version of Ubuntu and I want to roll it back to the previous version. How can I do that? Is that even possible?

 
it's in here

http://askubuntu.com/questions/6521/how-can-i-reconfigure-the-nvidia-proprietary-drivers-from-the-command-line-ssh
@EliahKagan done
 
@aking1012 thanks.
 
@Wackidev you still haven't told me what doesn't work on 10.04 or what known bug you're avoiding
 
@aking1012 Thx. 3 more close votes needed.
 
7:04 PM
jockey-text: command not found
 
it may not have existed yet when 8.04 was released
@psusi any ideas on blackscreen on 8.04 :P
 
sudo apt-get install jockey-common?
 
if it exists, then yes. it has been default for a while now
 
"Couldn't find package jockey"
 
exactly. and we keep going back to why you need 8.04
 
7:11 PM
Oops it accepted jockey-common
Now what?
 
it's in the link i already gave you...and i'm done trying to help until i've got a reason you can't move to a supported LTS e.g. 10.04
 
OK. Many thanks for your help.
 
7:28 PM
@aking1012 o/
 
o/ @lazy
 
@jrg If you're around, I have some ruby questions to bounce off of you, specifically dealing with unicorn and SSL certificates
Hows things man?
 
mots. i've got a pyc disassembler, crypter, rewriter all without actually loading the pyc working. throwing a gui on it
 
Nice, Congrats on getting the Lense Toggler in Webupd8
I saw that cross my feed a while back and smiled :)
 
i had no idea it was coming...it just happened. i was notified post-facto. it did sort of make my day though
 
7:38 PM
So, are you teaching now?
 
nope. my situation is the same as it was last time
my linkedin views are spiking in relation to defcon i think, but nothing including follow-up...just views
 
Have you dumped your CV on headhunters?
 
a couple
 
my job offers have slowed down finaly, which is nice. Too many people looking for .net devs - and its ultimately not what i want to continue doing. AMUSING NOTE! had a meeting 2 weeks ago and the business types asked me "Why aren't we using this PHP thing? We get resume's from PHP developers all he time, lets capitalize on this" so they made the executive decision with zero tech input to roll over the entire network to PHP applications -- i get to re-code the entire setup :|
 
mostly headhunters don't know what they're looking at on an HR req sheet vs resume. it's like playing find-a-word/word-search without knowing english..and they get a commission for it
 
7:43 PM
fair statement, i see this happen. I request developers and get designer resumes.
last i checked, knowing HTML5 and dreamweaver did not make you a web developer. It made you an interface designer.
 
fair statement
 
so, if you dont want to do pen testing and utilize your degree, i can probably pick you up as a developer in the coming months.
you'll be working in marketing, but its a jizzob :)
 
sorry for the slow typing. i was having trouble on laughing at the php thing
 
dude
i :O when i sat in on this meeting
i had a fit
the only bonus is now i'm running precise on my work lappy
and i'm going to juju deploy the network
far less scripting involved vs using chef. And i'm down for that - the less time i spend doing dev ops the more time i can focus on application logic.
 
good deal
 
7:46 PM
greetings, mortal earthlings.
 
o/ @LordofTime
 
i like building logic first then bridging the other stuff
@LordofTime earthlings
 
Can you answer this? Is there a way of automatically suspending processes that are running in unfoc... http://askubuntu.com/questions/88790/is-there-a-way-of-automatically-suspending-processes-that-are-running-in-unfocus?atw=1 #workspaces
 
@aking1012 better?
 
heh
i'm looking at packing up makehuman to put in repo and save people from the pita i had getting it on post 8.04 (seriously, it depends on python 2.6 if you try and install their deb and they refuse to build it on anything not ancient). up side? it's a one character fix to the makefile
 
7:48 PM
downside? you have to get it into Debian first
/me recommends that
 
i meant ppa
 
no desire to push for repo guy...if i abandon a ppa it's no big deal. and i am a bit flighty like that
 
who, Aking? Naw
 
7:50 PM
LOL
 
>.>
 
@aking1012 also working in my spare time at ditching octopress and rolling my own rails based markdown powered blog. I have the markdown processing done, just need to template it and finalize my git deploy hooks and its a finished project. Total time to live so far is about an hour.
not to be the latest ruby noob preaching the awesomeness to an already dead horse, but wow rails makes developing things crazy fast by consuming gems.
 
you've gone to the red side. i'm more a fan of the green side. (see light side, dark side starwars ruby python reference) <--joke
 
indeed
I'm still going to learn more python - but django is not my preferred language for the web.
I blame Gary Bernhardt for turning me to the dark side
 
that's fair. django is a bit painful
 
7:53 PM
prefers aligning himself to Time instead of any language :P
 
hey, i posted that once
 
CI-Joe based infographic
 
i know ruby is awesome, but python handles binary data parsing better
 
oh every language has its perks. I'm not a holy war anymore on anything but opening the flow of information exchange. I've consumed so many api's and written connectors over the last month it makes me sick to think about recoding them in PHP - i should have done it in a FOSS solution in the first place so i could just consume them. I may cheat and use a mono middle man
 
7:56 PM
i think you were looking for this:
 
NaNNaNNaNNaNNaNNaNNaNNaNNaNNaNNaNNaN WATMAN!
 
it was more a reference to "this is how awesome ruby is"
 
indeed
 
i like the idea of every language having a built-in webserver and json so there's always an easy api/bridge
 
unless you're consuming the early 2000's SOAP api's and have to translate soap wrappers
and with the EDU sphere, theres tons of that to go around.
we picked up 12 clients in the last 2 months, and all of them are using SOAP endpoints
one is still running a smalltalk instance O.O
 
7:59 PM
haven't had to consume soap recently (i've watched my mouth in front of the parents) <--sarcasm
 
obligatory rage statement
 
they're running Novel groupwise here, but with AD. And they're failing epically at the migration to pure AD
 
but AD is crazy simple to setup, its just time consuming to write the rules.
unless their topography is more complicated than i give it credit for.
 
it's not
 
TBH OpenLDAP was harder to setup than AD
 
8:02 PM
agreed
the issue is that someone somewhere is braindead to the point that they can't handle the migration tool that exports all the groupwise credentials and content
 
+1
 
well the simple tool migrates to 2003...and we have to run 2008 only... hold on while i go install it in a personal vm to bounce it off of then. you'll never have 2003 on corp assets
 
angry bold edits, i like it.
 
well i meant for it to be a bit more "different voice" than rageface, but it works either way
on the developer for marketing job opportunity just pop me an email when something comes open. i'll send the resume i sent before plus some modifications to more fit the job description
 
Ok, i dont think it will be in the next month or so but closer to october/november at our present expansion rate
 
8:09 PM
we'll see how everything goes
 
i have a team of 5 in house, and 5 remote. we will be gaining more steam as we open up to the non edu market
which is coming, the student loan bubble troubles me
Oh! i graduated and finally got my degree :)
speaking of student loans :P
 
good job. i've had mine for a while, but evidently didn't know the right folks :/
that or the openings i see are for "so and so with 7 years peoplesoft experience with oracle backend and this custom plug-in we wrote in house"
i think the student loan bubble is just a deferral of the job market tank. it's not really getting any better out there, just 4 years of school looks like employment in statistical notes. by the same token it only creates debt if there's no consumer waiting when it's over
 
8:28 PM
Nice
I missed all of the (removed). ran downstairs to check the laundry
 
rages about ubuntu app showdown and repetitive quickly questions
 
allrecipes.com/recipe/ham-loaf-i << made this for dinner lastnight. Leftovers are going to be super delicious.
 
i do a huge glazed honey ham that chunks then put it in soup, rice, and beans or sandwiches
 
nom nom nom
 
you can also just eat it straight-away with applesauce as a dipping sauce (think better chicken nuggets)
leftovers...see jamie oliver
 
8:36 PM
hah, fair statement.
 
9:05 PM
@aking1012 neat - webrick style insta-php-server using lighttpd -- github.com/chuckbutler/dotfiles/commit/… && github.com/chuckbutler/dotfiles/commit/…
 
cool deal
 
 
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jrg
10:34 PM
@lazyPower oh dear, ssl and unicorn.
pukes
 
This is disappointing.
(That's a review for StackApplet in the Software Center.)
The application has been updated since then and isn't broken - the problem is that the version in the archives is old. Really old.
...but there's nothing I can do about that.
 
Can't the latest stable version be packaged for Quantal?
 
It can... I'm waiting on the maintainer to do that.
But since I'm neither a Debian or Ubuntu maintainer, I can do absolutely nothing about it.
 
Once that happens, perhaps it could enter older releases' -backports repositories.
 
That would be nice.
 
10:44 PM
Is there a Debian or Ubuntu bug requesting that the newer version be packaged in sid/quantal? If so, then people can subscribe and (in the case of an Ubuntu bug) use the Launchpad feature to silently indicate they are affected. That sometimes stimulates progress.
 
jrg
@GeorgeEdison call it a security update, say that everything will break next year.
Or bribe him. Pizza works nicely.
 
Well, it didn't help that the original replacement had a security flaw.
...and another version was released very shortly afterward :P
I am about to find out just what kind of support Fedora provides for DisplayLink monitors...
 
jrg
ugh. @jorge, we failed - we have multiple "how do I make a custom ubuntu" questions.
 
@jrg well, i decided to go with a NGINX proxy to unicorn so i'll let NGINX handle the ssl certs. it appears my issue is not the first of its kind.
 
jrg
@lazyPower First reasonable thing I've heard all day. ;P
 
10:55 PM
Can you answer this? How to show opened windows in the panel seperately on multiple monitors? http://askubuntu.com/questions/91875/how-to-show-opened-windows-in-the-panel-seperately-on-multiple-monitors?atw=1 #multiplemonitors
 
@jrg how did your first rails class go?
 
jrg
@lazyPower The demo went well, I'm doing it again here in about a month.
 
mr burns style excellent
All i have to say is, i owe it all to little chocolate donuts.
 
jrg
There was other detail that I can't talk about in public, but it made me grin and giggle. ;)
 
Given the output of lsusb, what is the corresponding device in /sys?
 
jrg
11:15 PM
If you find out, let me know.
 
11:40 PM
@GeorgeEdison /sys/bus/usb/devices/usbX and idProduct or idVendor to confirm
and sorry to hear about the software center review. sounds a little upsetting that an old version of your software is in center with a working version in ppa, but they're soliciting new apps to push in...
 
@aking1012 Thanks... next problem:
Failed to issue method call: Invalid argument
...when I run loginctl attach...
 
on that one no idea
 
It's a bit frustrating...
 
11:56 PM
i imagine it is
 

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