@BillDubuque If we were focused only on the content we didn't need to call users.

@BillDubuque I'll never understand why many people here on MSE seems worried to help people to get better with math. This is the only think really important the site should focus on.

@user As you must surely know by now, many highly experienced and knowledgeable users don't think that posting massive numbers of duplicate answers to trivial FAQ's is something to be "proud" of. Rather, they think it is very damaging to the site.

@user I aso wanted to suggest you to change your username. it indeed leads to lot of confusion.

If you don't know which name to pick I can suggest lol

@BillDubuque @Isabella Thanks for the discussion, I need to go now. Bye

@user Yes, I agree. I was just pondering why you don't realize how your actions are perceived by your peers and I think one reason may be that it seems you rarely participate on meta. Had you done so you might better appreciate some of said concerns about ethics, site organization, etc.

@user Are the deleted questions that you requested to be undeleted PSQ?

even if that were the case, if they were upvoted or old, they should be higly considered to keep

@ellisaba I submitt questions which in my opinion don't deserve deletion and any users here can freely make a judgement on that. You can try with the link given here to see some examples of deleted/undeleted questions, not only the ones I've submitted but also all the others.

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:52797360 Sorry but, since you are going on with that, I need again to correct your completely false affirmations.

I haven’t advanced any “self-targeted undeletion requests”. As anyone can verify by themselves, I’ve submitted here questions in order to evaluate whether or not they deserve undeletion. Lately, after your request, I’ve also added a disclaimer (unnecessary for me) in order to let know that these questions contained also answer given by me.

As you know, after you have raised that point, I’ve formulated a specific question to the mods’ office room in order to have an avice about your claim on the alleged violation of rules. Up to now I didn’t received any indication from them.

Your claim about “the beginnings of an undeletion voting ring” is reall not accetable in my opinion, I’m forced to flag that to moderators to make delete it. It is slandering for my person and also for all users which partecipate to the room. The same as for your subsuquent slandering affirmations on “this biased room”, “room that condones unethical behavior”, etc.

Your one is really an unethical behavior, as also that from some users active on CRUDE which promote targeting punitive deletion as a way to adfirm prepotentelly his own point of view on the way the community should work and on the questions which aswer to. Maybe you should spend your time there to give instructions about the CoC of our community "that is rooted in kindness, collaboration, and mutual respect“.

@BillDubuque (I ping you here since the previous one went wrong).

@user Your use of the CoC as a baton to beat your dissenters about the head and shoulders with is not in the spirit of "kindness, collaboration, and mutual respect".

Constantly flagging the posts of others---including those that are trying to help you!---is unkind.

Working against the best practices of the site, as discussed and agreed to in meta, is against the spirit of collaboration.

Accusing others of slander and defamation is against the spirit of mutual respect.

Your baseline assumption appears to be that @BillDubuque is attacking your or slandering you.

This is incorrect.

He is trying to point out that your behaviour gives the appearance of impropriety, and is very similar to the behavour which leads to the establishment of a voting ring. He trying to help you to avoid the consequences which may follow from that behaviour.

@XanderHenderson Claim that there is "the beginnings of an undeletion voting ring" is really slanderous. I respect the different ideas but I can't accept that they are formulated in this way.

@user No, it is not "really slanderous".

@XanderHenderson I've flagged only the last one, after 2 or 3 days of repeted false accusations.

@user No one has accused you of anything.

@XanderHenderson Precisely: massive self-targeted undeletion requests, beginnings of an undeletion voting ring, unethical behavior! Aren't this accisations? I understand that we have differnt starting point but you should recognize which the limit should be. There are many ways to express ides, it is not necessary raise these accusations.

@XanderHenderson Indeed I've taken in great considerations the observations received form Bill, putting a disclaimer in the recent submissions and asking to the mods for an advice.

@XanderHenderson The point raised from Bill is reasonable but the ways and the false accusations are really not necessary for the purpose.

@user "Slander" is a legal term; it refers to the crime of making false verbal statements which are mean to cause harm to another's reputation.

Bill Dubuque made a statement of fact (that you have provided many links to deleted questions which you have answered and requested that they be undeleted), then noted that such an action could be perceived as unethical, as such actions are how voting rings often get started.

He made no false statements, and the statements were not made in an effort to harm your reputation.

This is not slander (nor is it libel, which is really the word that you want, as the comments are written, not verbal).

@XanderHenderson I've submitted some deleted questions to other users in order to take into consideration whether or not they deserve deletion. I have not requested undeletion, I've submitted them to evaluate for undeletion. Those are not details.

@XanderHenderson You are softening a lot the way Bill expressed his thoughts. Please read again the way Bill has raised that.

@XanderHenderson The way he has formulated his thoughts harm my own reputation and the reputation of this room.

@XanderHenderson Thanks for the advice on the proper use of the terms.

@XanderHenderson Anyway I realy would like to de-escalate from this discussion with Bill. I think we have expressed in all the ways our different ideas about that.