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12:35 AM
@TedShifrin Got a question for you about determinants as volumes when you have a moment. I'm trying to see how the linearity of the determinant w/r/t each of its columns goes through. (the scalar multiplication bit is obvious, but I'm not grokking the additivity bit)
(maybe I should just dwell in contemplation of a parallelogram for a bit)
 
It's Cavalieri's principle.
No, that's the right answer if you do $v+cw$.
It's a tricky picture which I have in my books. Let's see if I can copy it here.
No, I can't, cuz it's .eps.
There we go.
 
12:51 AM
Hmm
Gonna have to stare at that a while
 
The white triangle at the top is a copy of the bottom triangle, of course.
 
@TedShifrin for some reason I was thinking Pappus. Not sure why I was associating that name
 
No, that's for thingies of revolution.
 
So the purple is showing $D(x,z) + D(y,z)$. And the bold parallelogram is showing $D(x+y,z)$. Right?
 
1:01 AM
Not familiar with the D notation. Is it just the wedge product?
 
sorry, I just mean determinant.
You can do it with wedge, of course.
 
Then I don’t quite follow. x,y,z are 3-vectors, so (x,y) would seem to be a rectangular matrix
 
No, no, this is all in the plane.
 
We're doing areas, not volumes. The 3D pictures get too crazy.
 
1:04 AM
Then yeah, I see it
 
Hint: Note the $xy$-axes.
 
Lol, yeah
In my defense, that picture has x,y,z axes :P
 
Blah.
 
Yeah, I thought that was a 3D picture at first glance.
 
We're talking AREA and additivity.
 
1:06 AM
If this boils down to Cavalieri once you go to higher dimensions, though, I can live with that
 
Otherwise we'd need 3 vectors at once to talk about volume. So I dismiss you guys as incompetent.
No, Cavalieri is the comparison of $v$ and $v+cw$ versus $v$ and $w$, as I already said.
 
Well you're not wrong, Ted
 
Hey, I’m the one who introduced the volume context. You’re the one who insisted on areas
 
Shearing is fundamentally different from this.
I challenge you to draw an intelligible 3D picture.
I don't think I've ever tried to do that in class, but maybe I'm wrong.
 
Point taken
 
1:09 AM
Drawing 3D stuff does suck.
 
I'm better at it than the average bear, but nowhere near the best.
 
The picture I made for myself in geogebra 3D for what I was interested in was like this (using words):
 
There are some real artists in that Calc 3 course I'm grading, though. Like, they drew a nearly perfect representation of a hemisphere extending from the xy plane into the negative z, with shading and everything. It looked like a bowl.
 
I had a student years ago at MIT who'd been an architect. He was the official note-taker for the class of 350 students. His pictures — done in India Ink in pen — were stunning.
I actually posted one of his extra credit problem solution on the web many years ago: A picture of the intersection of three orthogonal cylinders. He did a blow-up diagram like you'd get to assemble something from Sears (if anyone remembers them).
 
I suppose an architect needs to be able to accurately represent what sort of structures they are envisioning. Makes me think about Escher, though, and how he managed to capture mathematical concepts in art form without really knowing the math.
 
1:15 AM
Oh, he knew a hell of a lot more math than he admitted.
I taught a freshman seminar on his math/art.
 
I'd like to get a print of Escher's Metamorphosis at some point, actually.
Oh yeah, for sure, he knew it intuitively.
Even if he didn't study it.
 
He actually wrote some lectures that were supposed to be given in Canada, but he fell ill and didn't give them. They were published, nevertheless, and this was the beginning of my seminar.
 
Really?
 
Take a parallelipiped of three vectors u,v,w. Let P be the plane through the origin perpendicular to u. Project the parallelepiped onto P to get a parallelogram
 
I bought the book at the Smithsonian in DC, I think. I no longer have it, though.
 
1:16 AM
I did not know that. I suppose my information is faulty.
 
@Semiclassic: Seeing that you get volume in 3D is based on Cavalieri, yes. But that's not going to do additivity as we were discussing, I don't think.
 
Also, while I'm here:
 
Well, what I had in mind was to decl
Well, what I had in mind was to decompose v,w into components parallel/orthogonal components
 
Could someone clarify this hint for me? As it'd probably be useful, know that $U=\text{Span}(u_1,u_2,u_3)$ and $V=\text{Span}(v_1,v_2)$. Anyways:
(Hint: Form the matrix $M$ whose rows consists of the following vectors:
$$(u_1,0),\quad (u_2,0),\quad (u_3,0),\quad (v_1,v_1),\quad (v_2,v_2)$$
all with length $10$. Then reduce $M$ to a reduced row Echelon form where the row vectors have the form $(w_1,w_2)$ and $(0,w_3)$ where each $w_i$ has length $5$.
Explain why all the nonzero $w_1$ form a basis for $U+V$ and all the nonzero $w_3$ form a basis for $U\bigcap V$.)
 
And then argue based on linearity that I could remove the parallel components
 
1:20 AM
Of course, you need echelon form, @Rithaniel, not reduced.
I would suggest you reduce to the case where the $u_i$ are linearly independent and the $v_i$ are likewise.
Or else, put in $0$ instead of redundant ones.
 
At which point the parallelipipef is a right parallelepiped, so volume is area of parallelogram times length of u
 
Not reduced? So he made a mistake in the hint?
 
You don't need reduced. It's irrelephant.
 
Which is what I was after
 
Ah, okay, gotcha
 
1:23 AM
WLOG, consider the case where neither $v$ is in the span of the $u$'s. And then take one (or two) of the $v$'s to be a basis for the intersection.
 
(The fact that we’re both talking about vectors u,v makes this conversation rather inconvenient)
 
You can think about it in terms of linear equations, too. But then the vectors should all be columns, not rows.
 
(Sorry Semi)
 
Lol no worries
 
You're on your own, @Semiclassic.
Besides, I'm about to go cook dinner.
 
1:24 AM
Pfff fiiine
But Cavalieri is a good point of reference
 
One of these days I'll help you on a problem, Semi.
Well, if neither $v$ is in the span of the $u$s, then none of the $u$s are in the span of the $v$s, and so the intersection would be trivial, no?
 
I already reduced to the linearly independent case.
So, yes.
Otherwise, no.
Oh, well, maybe what you said is still right.
Anyhow, I'm gone.
 
Enjoy your dinner, Ted
Thank you for the pointers
 
 
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7:40 AM
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9:11 AM
Is there a standard function which maps singletons to their content
ie $f(\{ x \}) = x$
Kind of a projection function I suppose?
 
 
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10:47 AM
@MatheinBoulomenos so for each prime ideal in Z there is a category of fields with that characteristic
seems like some construction on Spec Z?
 
11:18 AM
@LeakyNun I don't think the topology of Spec Z or the structure sheaf play any role in this
not that you can replace "field" by integral domain in the statement
and you can replace Z by any commutative ring A and then you can look at the categories of integral domains B which are A-algebras such that the kernel of A->B is some fixed prime ideal
or you can also do the same thing with categories of fields instead of integral domains
but I don't see why this is interesting
 
11:56 AM
How should Kuipers (as in Kuipers and Niederreiter) be pronounced?
I tried to check Wikipedia for people from Netherlands with surname Kuipers. The Wikipedia articles Nick Kuipers, André Kuipers and Björn Kuipers list this as pronunciation: [ˈkœypərs]. (One of them even has an audio.)
Lauwerens Kuipers is most likely from Netherlands, too: genealogy.math.ndsu.nodak.edu/id.php?id=95430
 
the ui sound is hard lol
an "öü" sound is accurate I guess
 
Just out of curiosity - I am not sure what kind of name ÍgjøgnumMeg could be. Possibly Scandinavian?
 
It's Faroese, though it's not a name, just some words
(Insular Scandinavian)
 
I have to admit that I do not know much about Faroe Islands.
 
It has a beaaautiful language
which is almost impossible to learn due to it being so small
 
12:47 PM
Hello. I have a quick functional analysis question. Let $A=\frac{1}{2}(T+T^\ast )$ be the self adjoint part of $T$. Is something like $\|A^2-A\|\leq \|T^2-T\|$ true?
 
1:26 PM
if X is uniform on [0,1] and Y is exponential with lambda = 1, what is the integral you need to compute to work out P(X+Y <=1) ?
 
 
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8:25 PM
Nobody here tonight?
 
I just got home
Heya Alessandro
 
8:43 PM
So, there is a result in our matrix analysis book, that if $\sum_{i=1}^p f_i=id_E$ where each $f_i:E\rightarrow E$ is a linear map (and there are $p$ of them), and $E$ is a vector space over $K$ then the following are equivalent:
$f_i^2=f_i$ for all $i$.
$f_i\circ f_i=0$ for all $i\neq j$.
However, in the case $E=\mathbb{Z}_2^3$ then the three matrices:
$f_1=\begin{pmatrix}1 & 0 & 0 \cr 0 & 1 & 0 \cr 0 & 0 & 0 \cr\end{pmatrix}$
$f_2=\begin{pmatrix}0 & 0 & 0 \cr 0 & 1 & 0 \cr 0 & 0 & 0 \cr\end{pmatrix}$
$f_3=\begin{pmatrix}0 & 0 & 0 \cr 0 & 1 & 0 \cr 0 & 0 & 1 \cr\end{pmatrix}$
are a counterexample to this, correct?
because $f_1\circ f_2=f_2$
 
@Rithaniel yeah I think this can only work in char 0
an even easier example is to consider any vector space over $\Bbb F_2$ and let $f_1=f_2=f_3=\mathrm{id}$
 
@Rithaniel should that be $f_i \circ f_j=0$ for all $i\neq j$?
 
and you can generalize this example to $\Bbb F_p$ for any $p$, just take the identity $p+1$ times
 
char 2 creates some annoying loopholes
 
any finite characteristic works here
 
8:57 PM
Oh yeah, that's a typo, Semi.
 
yeah, but the Z2 case is char 2
 
I love those linear algebra books in which they go "$K$ denotes an arbitrary field, $\Bbb R$ or $\Bbb C$"
 
I never saw that I would be triggered
 
That made me actually laugh.
 
8:59 PM
we had $\Bbb F_p$ and even $\Bbb F_4$ and stuff like $k(x)$ in examples in LA
 
"An arbitrary field, so long as it's one of these two."
 
in the end we classified finite fields cause why not?
 
though, as much as I'm inclined to roll my eyes at that
that kind of thinking is valuable even in an applied context, if only because of how often block matrices show up
 
So, what if you have that there are $n$ different $f_i$ and $n\not\equiv 1 (\text{mod Char }K)$
 
9:01 PM
@MatheinBoulomenos yes but that's because you study in a den of mad algebraists
 
also, that kind of decomposition of the identity into orthogonal projections is a Big Deal in quantum mechanics
 
Mathein is around mad algebraists? Maybe I should go where Mathein is.
 
example exercises in our LA courses: prove that $\Bbb Z[i]$ is an Euclidean domain
Show that a ring is Noetherian (ACC on ideals) iff every ideal is finitely generated etc.
we did the whole proof of STFGMPID
@Rithaniel take the example you have and add $0$ as a fourth map
 
Okay, fair enough
For a while I was doing well about remembering trivial cases
 
henlo
 
9:12 PM
Hi
 
Hi @ÍgjøgnumMeg
 
y0o0o0o
how are we all
 
@Semi i'm helping someone with diff geo in a physics class and the way this prof talks about things is absolutely inscrutable, y r y'all so unclear
 
Howdy, @ÍgjøgnumMeg, @Eric, demonic @Alessandro, @Mathein, @Rithaniel collapses in a heap
 
Yo @Ted
 
9:17 PM
Heya Ted
 
Oh, and @Semiclassic
 
Hi @Ted
 
Also, heya Meg
 
Hey @Rithaniel lol
 
9:17 PM
In fairness, @Eric, plenty of mathematicians are unclear, too.
 
yeah but this is like bonkers
 
What is the topic?
 
they ask to find a connection on the sphere satisfying $\nabla e_{\varphi} = 0$ and $\nabla g_{ij} = 0$, where $g$ is the standard metric on S^2
 
Is this physicists' $\varphi$?
 
this is all they said so idek but almost definitely
 
9:19 PM
Whoa. WTF ... how can there be an everywhere parallel metric?
 
im like positive it's bullshit
 
Hey @MatheinBoulomenos, do you feel like taking a look at a functional analysis question?
 
what's worse is that also they didnt tell the students what a connection was and this hw is due tmr
 
Well, definitely not the Levi-Civita connection. Interesting.
 
Apparently this has a short solution that is non-obvious: let $A$ be a subring of a ring $B$ and let $\beta \in B^\times$. Then every $\alpha \in A[\beta] \cap A[\beta^{-1}]$ is integral over $A$.
 
9:21 PM
yeah it's not
i think they're removing two antipodes tho
 
@Arrow I answered functional analysis questions in this chat before I think but it's not really my strength
 
I was going to ask that ...
And I really want to know whether $\varphi$ is $\phi$ or $\theta$.
 
Posted a question about induction proof, if someone here has the time to help me, I would be very grateful. Been trying all day
 
@MatheinBoulomenos okie doke
 
What's the question, @dondeman?
 
9:23 PM
im like pretty sure it's saying that the connection is parallel along the latitudes so it's their phi
 
@TedShifrin Using induction to prove that when $n$ is an exact power of 2
$$
T(n) =
\begin{cases}
1 & \text{if}\; n=1\,,\\
8T(n/2) + n^2 & \text{if}\; n =2^k, for & k > 1 \,.
\end{cases}
$$
Do you want me to post my attempt as well?
 
@ÍgjøgnumMeg I think the degree of obviousness (is that even a word?) depends on how you well remember your different characterizations of integral elements
 
Do you have this as a question on the main site, @dondeman? What you just pasted doesn't make sense to me.
 
@Mathein the only other characterisation I know is the one involving $\alpha M \subset M$
 
Sorry, @TedShifrin, math.stackexchange.com/questions/3370713/… is my question
 
9:27 PM
lol
 
@ÍgjøgnumMeg yeah that's what you want here
 
alright hehe
 
@Ted asking that ur parallel along latitudes is like saying ur projecting onto a cylinder and transporting there
 
it's hard if you try to construct the monic polynomial explicitly
 
yeah I wasn't even gonna bother with that
 
9:28 PM
so it's like doing the mercator projection
 
@dondeman: So you want to switch back from $2^k$ to $n$ notation in your calculation. Won't that help?
Hmm, I don't think the mercator metric is the pullback of the cylinder metric. I need to check.
 
@TedShifrin Would that help?
 
@ÍgjøgnumMeg it's easy for me to say that this isn't hard given that I did this exercise before and remember the solution lol
but I don't remember it as difficult
 
@TedShifrin I feel like a complete idiot today
 
Absolutely, @dondeman. You don't want to be using $2^k$s ...
 
9:30 PM
@Mathein lol I'm just perusing the exercise sections of Milne's notes
 
Don't say you're an idiot until it works easily :P
@Eric: The Lambert projection preserves area (beautiful fact about the sphere) but is definitely not conformal.
 
Haha, @TedShifrin. "Using induction to prove that when 𝑛 is an exact power of 2", but is what the task asks for
So my goal should be to get 2^k to turn into n?
 
@TedShifrin we're not working w the mercator metric but u get the mercator projecttion by projecting the sphere onto a cylinder tangent along the equator
 
No, you don't.
That's the Lambert projection. Different.
Mercator is conformal, Lambert is equi-areal.
Or else I'm as dumb as your physicists.
 
no mercator is cylindrical
 
9:35 PM
@dondeman: Don't ever write any $k$'s. Do everything with $n$. If you're at $n$, what's the next case?
I disagree, @Eric. I have exercises in my diff geo notes on these both.
 
@TedShifrin: Would that be $2^{n+1}$?
 
See exercises 9 and 13 on p. 42.
No, @dondeman.
If $n=2^k$, what is $2^{k+1}$?
 
Let $M$ be a smooth connected manifold and let $p:E \to M$ be a smooth vector bundle with a connection. Is the holonomy group at a point $x$ a closed subgroup of $\mathrm{GL}(p^{-1}(x))$?
 
@TedShifrin, is it the next step?
 
But what is it in terms of $n$, @dondeman?
 
9:38 PM
@TedShifrin 2?
 
@Mathein: I sure think so.
@dondeman: I'm going to let you think more.
 
@TedShifrin you do in fact still get it by blowing up the sphere onto the cylinder tho
 
@TedShifrin I think I am completely missing the point here
 
at least this is how google does it idk
 
@Eric: Well, since the cylinder is isometric to the plane, I'm going to stick with my previous response.
 
9:40 PM
@TedShifrin, is it n+2?
 
@dondeman: Try examples for yourself and see if you're right.
 
@TedShifrin, but am I not supposed to use n = $2^{k+1}$?
 
it's not the like radial projection but that doesnt matter in this context right the only thing i said is that ur doing transport on the cylinder to get 0 along latitudes
 
$n=2^k$. What is $2^{k+1}$ in terms of $n$?
I dunno, @Eric. I quit.
 
@TedShifrin Because $n=2^k$, $2^{k+1}$ can be written as $2^k * 2^1$ so in terms of n it would be $2n$?
 
9:44 PM
There you go.
So if you have the formula for $T(n)$, you want to get the formula for $T(2n)$ by induction.
 
So instead of all the gibberish I have done, I should present in a different manner?
 
@TedShifrin the Ambrose-Singer theorem seems really cool though I don't understand it
 
@dondeman Yeah, I didn't check your work, but having all those $k$ in there just makes things harder to sort out.
@Mathein: If you think about the proof of 2-D Gauss Bonnet using differential forms (originally due to Chern, but you can find it in Section 3 of Chapter 3 of my diff geo notes), it's an application of Stokes's Theorem. The general case is the same idea but, obviously, more involved.
 
@TedShifrin Can I show you the way I present my work after calculating it with n´s instead of k´s?
 
9:50 PM
I don't even fully understand the statement. How do we get from the curvature tensor to the Lie algebra of the holonomy group?
 
In the 2D case, the point is that holonomy around a loop (that bounds) is given by integrating $K$ over the $2$-chain that it bounds.
That's the Stokes's Theorem proof of Gauss-Bonnet, in fact.
In other words, you want to integrate and then localize (as they do in physics all the time).
 
localizing sounds good
$S^{-1}R$
 
Blah.
I mean the way physicists think about curl and divergence as limits of line integrals and fluxes (divided by the appropriate area/volume factors).
 
I don't know how physicist think about that, I never learned classical vector analysis, only forms
okay my confusion resolved itself, I was just being dumb
 
OK ... you can see the Stokes's Theorem arguments in one of my videos if you decide you're interested.
 
10:05 PM
@TedShifrin I seem to be stuck again
 
So what's T(2n) according to the recursive formula?
 
$8T(2*n/2) + (2*n)^2$ = $8T(n) + 4n^2$ = $8*(n^2(2n-1)) + 4n^2$
 
OK, so you can do some algebra on that. What are you supposed to get from the formula you're proving by induction?
By the way, don't put *s ... this isn't a computer program. This is math :)
 
@Ted im actually having a complex geo-ish issue
 
@Ted I wasn't even thinking about the proof. I just forgot that the curvature tensor is a 2-form with values in the endomorphisms of the fiber, which is of course just the Lie algebra of GL of the fiber. Since the holonomy group is by definition a subgroup of GL of the fiber, the Lie algebra of the holonomy is not just an abstract Lie algebra but actually automatically embedded in the Lie algebra of GL of the fiber. So it was really a stupid thing
 
10:09 PM
Oh?
 
@TedShifrin I am supposed to get $n^2(2n-1)$
 
No you're not. You want the new $n$. @dondeman
 
do you know if you have a complex vector bundle over a Riemann surface $E \to \Sigma$, is specifying a map taking sections of E to complex-antilinear E-valued one forms like a d-bar operator enough to induce a holomorphic structure on ur vb
 
Gotcha @Mathein.
 
@TedShifrin: $4n^2(4n-1)$
 
10:10 PM
Right @dondeman.
 
the other way around is true bc if you have a holomorphic vector bundle than you can define $\bar{\partial}$ by just doing it wrt trivializations and noting that transition maps are holomorphic so nothing bad hapens
 
But is $4n^2(4n-1)$ equal to $8*(n^2(2n-1)) + 4n^2$?
 
Right. So, provided you have the integrability condition, can't you turn that around to deduce that the transition functions have to be holomorphic if you're well-defined?
You tell me, @dondeman.
 
I will tell you in a second
 
@MatheinBoulomenos Is every transitiv action of the form G acting on G/H , for H subgroup? and G/H the left coset space?
 
10:12 PM
@Jacksoja yes
that's a way to put the orbit-stabilizer theorem
just pick any point in your G-set and take H to be stabilizer
 
i guess that's my question, is specifying such a $\bar{\partial}$-type operator enough of an integrability condition
 
I was thinking of it this way, we first like G act on any set
but then take one orbit, and let G act on that subset
 
Well, I was thinking that you need something like $\bar\partial^2 = 0$ in an appropriate sense.
 
@TedShifrin
They are equal!
 
Aha.
 
10:14 PM
But it is intresting that every transitive action has that form
 
@Jacksoja why do you make that step if you just want to prove something about transitive actions?
@Jacksoja yes!
if you've seen the proof of orbit-stabilizer, try to recall it or look it up or try to redo it yourself. Then think about what happens in terms of group actions
 
@TedShifrin Thank you very much for your help
 
@MatheinBoulomenos I will shortly, wanted to see what else can be said here, because this seems important
 
You're welcome, @dondeman.
 
since every group action can be broken into transitive actions ( union of them )
 
10:16 PM
@TedShifrin idk this is like specifying $\nabla$ on a vb so my guess is this isnt true in any nice sense for a general complex vb and a given $\bar{\partial}$-operator
 
@TedShifrin I really appreciate that you did not give me the answer, gave me a sense of accomplishment :)
 
My teaching style annoys a lot of people on this site, @dondeman, but I'm stubborn :)
 
the "proper" way to state the orbit stabilizer theorem is that for a $G$-set $X$ and any $x \in X$, there's a "canonical" isomorphism of $G$-sets (which means a $G$-equivariant bijection) between the orbit of $x$ and $G/\mathrm{Stab}_G(x)$. Can you figure out what that isomorphism is? @Jacksoja
as I said, if you've seen a proof of orbit-stabilizer then you've seen this isomorphism in one form or the other
 
@Eric: It's not quite the same. You're only specifying the $(0,1)$ part of the connection.
 
@MatheinBoulomenos I think the natural thing to do is, we map gStab(x) to g.x
 
10:18 PM
yes that's true
 
@Jacksoja you got it! Now you just need to check well-defined, equivariant and bijective
 
@MatheinBoulomenos Oh that equivariant from yesterday haha, I shall do that thanks !
 
idk i guess really this is just asking a local pde question
 
@Jacksoja yes exactly. This is an instance where you want to compare two different $G$-actions, so you need the notion of $G$-equivariant maps
 
basically im just asking if theres local existence of holomorphic sections
 
10:22 PM
Don't you need holomorphic transition functions?
 
yes but im pretty sure i can construct them if i have local existence of lots of holomorphic sections but i have to write it down
 
You mean local sections, of course ...
I think that's the same thing.
 
yeah im p sure
 
Because local sections transform by the transition functions.
Are you doing a line bundle or higher rank?
I dunno that it matters.
 
it doesnt matter
yeah
 
10:28 PM
@MatheinBoulomenos something like the category of fields can be split into connected categories, whose initial objects are parameterized by Spec Z
something like a category-bundle on Spec Z
 
10:42 PM
Question: if $f:A\rightarrow B$ is an injective linear map with $A$ and $B$ vector spaces over some field $K$ and $\tau:B\rightarrow A$ is an onto linear map such that $\tau\circ f=I_A$, then is $\tau$ uniquely determined by $f$?
 
@TedShifrin yeah so because of this it's just a question about cranking elliptic pde
 
@TedShifrin not dead
 
heya @Faust !!!
 
How ya doing?
 
@Eric: I still think you need something like $\bar\partial^2 = 0$.
I'm doing OK, Faust, except for my body's falling apart. How are you doing?
 
10:49 PM
9 months of being almost dead
 
oh oh
 
im doing not bad other than my house is a disater
healthy though and thats worth alot more than one would think
 
no, that's worth a totally tremendous amount
I'm glad to see you :)
 
Other than sleeping odd times i have been good for almost 2 months now
got back into math about a month after things got better
 
Glad to hear it.
 
10:51 PM
Doing a project with a prof on something i defiantly don't understand but by in large i am taking it easy
 
Cool.
 
You know what Alexander polynomials and Alexander modules are?
 
Not much.
 
Well once i figure that out i may be able to understand what i am doing a project on lol.
 
I mean, I once knew the definition of the Alexander polynomial of a knot, but I don't think I've heard of Alexander modules.
re @Mathein
 
10:54 PM
Hi everyone
 
i have an idea what an Alexander polynomial is
 
@LeakyNun you can phrase it like that, but I don't think there's any geometry to it personally
 
The module well i know there christ aweful symbols in everything i attempt to read that mentions it
 
huh?
Are you referring to Christoffel symbols in differential geometry?
 
yeah
 
10:56 PM
How are those showing up in Alexander modules?
 
i don't know i dont understand anything about what it actually says other than something to do with a PID
but i could never forget those terrible symbols.
 
No, you're confusing algebra notation with differential geometry notation. Nothing to do with diff geo.
 
lol fair enough
Thats oddly reassuring.
 
LOL
 
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