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Bob
Bob
00:00
Man, Tom's Hardware really went to shit
00:18
Some articles are better than others. They've been veering more towards sensationalist headlines lately. AnandTech has been better in this regard.
@Bob, is there any particular reason you're picky about the content you read?
(I'm learning not to complain, so there is no need to ignore me)
...that is a bad idea. If @Bob responds, this may very well escalate, even if I try to avoid it.
!!/nothinghappened
00:45
!!/whodabest
@angelofdev you're the best!
01:53
@Bob their teardowns are odd.
Dave tears down pbxes. Tom's hardware tears down power strips
Bob
Bob
@JourneymanGeek The site is terrible.
Autoplaying (irrelevant!) videos, some 450 requests to load the page...
So many ads that I can't actually see any article text without scrolling (?!)
(And that's ignoring that this appears to be a rip-off of a Verge article. Which is terrible in itself.)
The saddest thing? Verge actually did it better.
My favourite is when a website stops you from seeing content because of AdBlocker "Thanks and buh-bye!"
Ah
I don't read the site directly
02:43
@Bob FWIW, I don't follow the Verge.
And here's my biggest complaint about Internet media over the last few years: advertising has ramped up dramatically in both quantity and aggressiveness. The problem is that ad revenue has been falling rapidly, especially traditional advertising formats like banners.
It is not merely a matter of staying competitive. The advertising problem has turned into one of survival.
This is also why we've been seeing more and more paywalls lately.
It is for this reason that while I do block some types of ads, I will try to avoid blocking all ads as long as I can get reasonable performance.
Is anyone familiar with smart card authentication? I was trying to figure out what would happen if the internet went out and OCSP stopped working
Bob
Bob
03:08
@cutrightjm I imagine it's implementation-dependent. You could always unplug the cable and try it out.
OCSP revocation is usually soft-fail.
Not a good test because if a new user uses a computer, the computer won't be able to talk to the domain controller
03:36
@bwDraco This, I'd rather have 3-5 small ads that don't impact on site performance or article readability; rather than 1 aggressive style ad that auto plays/popup or blocks my screen.
If they tone it down on websites to make competing for ad space more of an issue for advertisers I reckon ad revenue would go back up.
I just block all the ads ;p
04:12
@JourneymanGeek so you're to blame!!
@angelofdev twice!
I periodically try but I can't stand more than 10 minutes without adblock
 
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Bob
Bob
05:55
@FMLCat (@Burgi, @bertieb, @djsmiley2k) while you guys are still in the EU... ec.europa.eu/info/law/better-regulation/initiatives/…
 
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08:12
Yeesh. There is no way that warranted HNQ.
08:26
@Bob i don't understand it
09:03
@Burgi basically they want to lock down wifi radios and stops you from uploading third party firmware
i'm not sure it will affect the UK and the implementation period is after the 29th March
 
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10:38
@Mokubai which one?
10:49
mst of them.
@JourneymanGeek Who needs openness and having control over what one purchases?
You'll buy what we tell you and use it however we tell you!
@ThatBrazilianGuy erm. I built my own router ;p
So me
11:06
@Biswapriyo that's cool.
Make it sto
I can't poop anymore >_<
@JourneymanGeek With card games and ladies of questionable reputation?
With a cli. And mosh.
Can't wait for my mesh gear to turn up ._.
11:34
for your bike?
11:52
Wireless
Trying to neaten up my home network a little
Got some cheap kit to mess with
12:31
AH! i had the wrong sort of gear in my head :P
@rahuldottech my recent one. Someone asked "my chipset says it has PCIe 2.0 but the mobo claims PCIe 3.0" and I basically said that the PCIe 3 ports come from the CPU.
Did not feel like a great HNQ answer to me...
i'm dying of manflu ebola
@Burgi sounds painful. I try not to have any gears in my head
12:49
rapid unplanned disassembly can result in a chronic case of Gear Head
you too?
I do hope you don't have this.
@djsmiley2k its from my GF and her regular interactions with small germ factories
yeah well that's where mine started
daughter was sent home from school after being sick on my birthday, weird thing was for 2 days she seemed fine
we are at a gig tonight and at brian cox tomorrow night
i just wanna sleep :(
:<
Brian Cox <3
he with Robin Ince?
13:01
don't think so
@Burgi when playing with new tech I don't understand I usually get the cheapest units I can to experiment then upgrade a few years later
So these are by tenda and use a fairly cheap and cheerful realtek chip
If they work well I'm going to swap them for something nicer in future or leave them in place for when I move out with a new router
13:25
ooo seems it's a new show @Burgi, enjoy
@Burgi or gear appendage in @bertieb's case.
tries to flip smiley off
stares sadly at fingers
(nah, they're fine)
/me ponders why @bertieb is waving palm at him
:D
I used to have a Palm PDA
true story
lol
cool story bro
13:46
@bertieb had a m515
Saved for ages to buy it
I'm trying to remember what I had
Oh clippy
Never change
I still have the Palm dealie somewhere
Still worked last I tried it
I also had to save for quite a while
Almost certainly bought it second hand
@bwDraco Gamers Nexus generally showed it provides more frame stability, with the 0.1% and 1% being higher than the RTX 2080 often, but it only beat the 2080 on average framerate when the architecture of the game engine favored AMD. Overall it seemed to be a toss-up, but he said it's a noisier card than the reference 2080, too.
The big differences are (1) it doesn't have ray tracing / tensor cores (but if you don't care about those features, this means nothing, so it isn't necessarily an Nvidia advantage), and (2) it outperforms even the 2080 Ti in OpenCL workloads by at least 15% up to 75% faster, so if you do anything OpenCL on a regular basis, this is the card to get
I had a blackberry...
puts on his tinfoil hat I wonder if Nvidia deliberately slows down their OpenCL implementation (or doesn't put enough effort into it) to show how good CUDA is (CUDA always outperforms OpenCL on Nvidia hardware IIRC)
Something something something, "buy Quadro"?
14:01
@allquixotic raytracing and tensor probably are not interesting yet
14:21
To avoid errors like this, we render all text and pipe it through OCR before processing, fixing a handful of irregular bugs by burying them beneath a smooth, uniform layer of bugs.
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@XKCD ME TOO!
I don't worry about it - I have it happen!¬
roar
Bob
Bob
@allquixotic I think it's better now :P
Word, at least, doesn't format invisible spaces anymore (afaict?)
LibreOffice still does and it's annoying.
Bob
Bob
14:35
html rich editors, on the other hand... gotta switch to source view and purge formatting
@JourneymanGeek so when I go nbn I'll probably lose my static IP :(
the static IP I've had for the last ... at least 10 years
I've been putting off my vpn project for a loooooooooong time but I'll have to get that up when it happens
@Bob heh. I might lose my ipv6 when I move out
Possibly may have CGN too
@Bob openvpn?
Bob
Bob
@JourneymanGeek yea, openvpn
@JourneymanGeek I'm hoping to go with Aussie Broadband, who are starting to deploy CGN but have it opt-out
@Bob my current isp are dynamic and change more than they used to. MR does static for a one time fee but no ipv6
Of course I will basically need to rebuild my router then
14:51
time to fight dark ifirt again...
Wooooo beat him
Bob
Bob
@JourneymanGeek I'd pay the fee
cause the only way to do it with TPG NBN would be to go a business plan
which is like 200x fee every month
TPG ADSL just gives me a static :P
50 dollars? Hell ya
15:59
windows 10 wtf is with you re-enabling ta to click on the damn touchpad.
@Bob I have it happen in word where the formatting is carried over from a previous word
Bob
Bob
@djsmiley2k in recent versions?
So instead of "this and this" I get "this and this"
in 365
Bob
Bob
hm
ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'txacme'
synapse, pls
The code wraps the import in a try... catch block
But it tries to catch an ImportError
fire up python, try import it
might be missing dep
16:08
not a ModuleNotFoundError
or fix that
Just seeing what that does
Still errors
So (re?)installed txacme via pip
Requesting a certificate for 'matrix.bertieb.org'
I guess it's doing the thing
just wondering what did the catch block do on a error?
pass
:P
16:17
Agh, proxy is being a nubbin
Ah no wait, it's me
Typo in the host IP
@Bob Other than at work, I use GDocs more than I use Word, basically because it provides automated, don't-even-think-about-it machine independence, so I can start work on a document or spreadsheet and hop over to another box seamlessly and continue working, without having to set up OneDrive or iCloud or something, which is at least an effort and may require a lot of effort (for iCloud you have to type your password again pretty often on Windows)
oddly, iCloud has become my de facto WIP code-sharing repository for personal stuff, for code that I know won't work at all but I want to save it to work on it later (possibly not on the same machine) because it's automatic on my Mac and it isn't all that hard to get it working on my Windows box
but for JS stuff I use repl.it which has similar advantages to GDocs
iCloud is more for Lua ESO addons or other random desktop stuff (Java, C#, ...)
(of course, once the code nominally works I push it to github)
Bob
Bob
@allquixotic Eh, you can do the same thing with office online these days
@Bob how's feature parity between desktop Word and office online?
Bob
Bob
16:35
@allquixotic Enough for what i occasionally use? :P howtogeek.com/334597/…
> Office 365 Online and the Office 365 Mobile Apps both offer a feature set similar to what you’d find in their Google Docs counterparts.
> Word: You cannot create captions, citations, bibliographies, tables of content. You cannot create or apply styles. And you won’t have access to some of the more advanced reviewing, proofing, or page layout tools.
Hm. I thought styles worked.
Yea styles are definitely supported
table of contents works...
no bibliography tool
oh, 2017, that page is a bit outdated :P
tw
+o]=i[]o
meow
nopwe
+small. chi.+ld attack
17:01
nopwe sounds like an option that'd go in some json file
+o]=i[]o almost looks like they're showing signs of intelligence
weren't they talking about pdffffffffffffffffffffffs the other day?
 
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18:04
@allquixotic That does seem about right. I'm seeing quite a few complaints about Radeon VII being an unpolished product, though...
As usual, AMD has a big advantage in compute-oriented workloads but has difficulty keeping up with NVIDIA's best when gaming.
18:19
@Mokubai yeah I saw
The questions that truly deserve HNQ never get it...
18:46
@bwDraco they should make a $1500, Radeon XIV with two chips on it, using the extra board space they save by having HBM on-die, and make it a triple-width card to give it plenty of extra cooling, and do, like, some crazy impeller + fans design :D
and schedule all GPU commands across the two die (albeit with no VRAM coherency as that would make it slow)
it'd have better scaling than SLI/CrossFire, just like the old two-GPU cards used to scale better
such a card would certainly beat the 2080 Ti and probably the RTX Titan
@allquixotic Only liquid cooling would be viable at this point.
19:04
@bwDraco it'd also require 4 8-pin connectors lol
has there ever been a single card that sucks up that much juice?
20:20
yawn
20:50
A closer look... AMD has raised the FP64 capability to 1/4 of FP32 at the VBIOS level. Very interesting.
This move is a bit surprising, because I though 1/8 was plenty for consumer use...

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