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Mathieu Guindon
Mathieu Guindon
3:00 PM
wtf
 
Vogel612
Vogel612
totally unrelated: properly use chalk when climbing or bouldering...
 
Mathieu Guindon
Mathieu Guindon
@Vogel612 what's the date for that?
 
Vogel612
Vogel612
 
KySoto
KySoto
mornin
 
Vogel612
Vogel612
@MathieuGuindon 4AM this morning
dunno which TZ
 
Hosch250
Hosch250
3:06 PM
Icky blisters :(
 
KySoto
KySoto
i just tallied up how much time i spent reading novels yesterday... 14 and a half hours
 
Hosch250
Hosch250
@KySoto Which one(s)?
 
Vogel612
Vogel612
> X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Jan 2019 05:00:24.1451 (UTC)
 
Hosch250
Hosch250
@Vogel612 Are you sure that's not phishing?
Doesn't look like a typical MS-branded email.
 
Vogel612
Vogel612
no, not at all
@Hosch250 I'm disallowing external content
 
Mathieu Guindon
Mathieu Guindon
3:09 PM
haven't found the email, but I'm logged into O365 right now, everything looks normal
 
Vogel612
Vogel612
@Hosch250 huh... interesting... I should've just checked the links
 
Hosch250
Hosch250
The thing that caught my eye is it's not from an MS domain I know of.
 
Mathieu Guindon
Mathieu Guindon
that said, this is O365 Enterprise, which is tied to my MVP benefits ...not sure using this for RD was the greatest idea
 
Vogel612
Vogel612
just gotta get renewed :)
 
Hosch250
Hosch250
It's from *.outlook.com@core30.hostbase.net
 
Vogel612
Vogel612
3:12 PM
have a few excerpts from the source code of the mail: 
From: willsmen.co.kr <>
...
<a href='https://mail.skynotes.co.za/wp-content/uploads/2wPe32jb/blesdlook19/&#63;email=devs@rubberduckvba.com'
...
<a href='http://jardine.com.sg/source/&#63;email=devs@rubberduckvba.com'>Help & Contact</a>
 
KySoto
KySoto
@Hosch250 It's a translated series of novels
im about 90% sure it was originally chinese
 
Hosch250
Hosch250
@Vogel612 Still looks rather suspicious to me.
I don't recognize any of those domains.
 
KySoto
KySoto
but im finding the whole structure of how things works in the novels an interesting look into their culture
 
Vogel612
Vogel612
croatia, zambia and singapore
 
Hosch250
Hosch250
If MS owned "jardine.com.sg", odds are I'd have heard of it?
And then there's the "click this link" thing, instead of "go to your Account Profile and do X".
 
Vogel612
Vogel612
3:15 PM
there is not a single good reason to send a mail from croatia, linking to a singaporean domain pretending to be a com domain or a zambian wordpress instance
7
 
Hosch250
Hosch250
LOL.
 
KySoto
KySoto
you know, that 14 and a half hours might be off, might have been only 14 hours including food prep, diaper changes, and bathroom breaks
 
Mathieu Guindon
Mathieu Guindon
aaaah, found it
 
Vogel612
Vogel612
yay, so it correctly got caught in your spam filters, but not in mine...
 
Hosch250
Hosch250
@KySoto As for my day, I slept in, then played some HOTS, then rode my horse for 2 hours, then did wordament/word jumble/crossword puzzles.
 
KySoto
KySoto
3:19 PM
book one(well 4) was 308 pages, 2(5) was 362 pages, then im 62% through book 3(6) 447pages
 
Hosch250
Hosch250
Nice.
 
KySoto
KySoto
i was some percentage of the way through book3 which was 291
 
Hosch250
Hosch250
What's the name?(s)?
 
KySoto
KySoto
idk. i started on friday
and we did a lotta stuff sat
went to the store like 3 times
 
Hosch250
Hosch250
You mean, you read a bunch of books without knowing their names?
 
KySoto
KySoto
3:20 PM
its called king of gods
oh i meant, when i started hte series
 
Hosch250
Hosch250
Oh, OK. I should look it up. I love reading novels too.
 
KySoto
KySoto
O_o
looks like i started on sat
because looking at hte purchase dates, they are 1 day after i actually bought them
 
Hosch250
Hosch250
Must be some good books if you read them that fast :)
 
KySoto
KySoto
the language is fairly simple
so im not slowed down by less commonly used words
i mean, it IS a translated work
 
Duga
Duga
> Hi! I have a similar problem, where the installer (Rubberduck.Setup.2.3.1.4308) says "Unable to uninstall he previous version of Rubberduck. Try to uninstall it via the Programs control panel and run the uninstaller again."

When I do that, it says it can't find the uninstaller.

Which brings me to this post. Here's what I have in my registry:
![image](https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/7635693/51121907-77cd5700-1810-11e9-9385-b69852ca7cde.png)

The registry search script outputs
 
Mathieu Guindon
Mathieu Guindon
3:29 PM
"just keep doing what you're doing", they said... I wrote 368 answers on SO in 2017, but only 295 in 2018. Stepping down as a CR moderator will probably be playing against me too, and I'm not sure monthly-or-so WP articles are going to be enough. RD commits also rather massively down in 2018, ...IDK about renewal; depends how much MS values having a duck that quacks about working with 20yo tech
 
Vogel612
Vogel612
so you want to beat yourself up, sure, do that....
 
Duga
Duga
> @DiogoRNeves thanks for reporting - would you happen to know what version failed to uninstall?
 
Mathieu Guindon
Mathieu Guindon
meh, I'll still fill up the form :)
 
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keep in mind that the RD work is relatively original
 
Mathieu Guindon
Mathieu Guindon
meaning?
 
this
this
3:32 PM
how many MVPs can write an add-in that does deep level of COM integration, hijack the IDE's behavior?
I probably can find several Excel MVPs who has wrote great add-ins that does some X, Y, Z but they're usually just Excel add-in in some specific domain like finances.
 
Duga
Duga
> thanks for the quick answer!

Yeah, version that failed to uninstall is 2.2.0
 
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Finding any MVPs who can make VBE better? On one hand.
 
Mathieu Guindon
Mathieu Guindon
^ this one
:)
 
Duga
Duga
> There were large changes to the installer between 2.2 and 2.3, so that may be a factor. What you can do is install 2.2, then do uninstall of it. Then install 2.3 separately.
> Tried that, same thing happened. Didn't let me install it...
 
Mathieu Guindon
Mathieu Guindon
wth
 
this
this
3:36 PM
lol, any hands suffice. Last time I checked, five fingers was pretty common number to have. ;-)
 
Duga
Duga
> Fascinating. In that case, my next step would be to wipe registry for all the CLSID & ProgID entries, then try to install the latest.
 
KySoto
KySoto
@this unless you are a mutant with 6, or have been mutilated and have 4-0
 
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hence common
 
KySoto
KySoto
xD
common when? :P
 
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since forever?
 
KySoto
KySoto
3:37 PM
100 years ago, people were probably losing a lotta digits in that unsafe as hell machinery
 
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While that's probably true, I think the % is not hat large.
 
WaynePhillipsEA
WaynePhillipsEA
hey @this, now that we're using both ITypeInfo implementations for each VBA component... I've now identified a third implementation exposed for the same components...
 
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We probably went from something like 4% to 1% or whatever.
 
KySoto
KySoto
yeah, im just being difficult
 
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;-)
@WaynePhillipsEA oooh, what shiny things does it expose?
 
WaynePhillipsEA
WaynePhillipsEA
3:39 PM
well... does similar buggy behavior count?
2
 
Comintern
Comintern
Guessing it's not breakpoints...
2
 
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lol.
 
WaynePhillipsEA
WaynePhillipsEA
@Comintern sadly not.
 
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to clarify - is that 3rd one from the one method that returns alternative type infos?
IIRC, that returned 2 typeinfos.
 
WaynePhillipsEA
WaynePhillipsEA
yes it is. only just got around to looking at them
 
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3:40 PM
ah yes
 
WaynePhillipsEA
WaynePhillipsEA
the third one exposes only private members, but interestingly the ITypeLib container holds some more bits
 
Duga
Duga
> So, basically just go through all the registries outputted by the registry search and delete them?
 
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don't you love it when they make a maze out of the typeinfo/typelib?
 
Duga
Duga
> Are you getting any specific error message(s) when trying to install? Wiping the RD keys manually from the registry is quite a PITA... this should help:

https://github.com/rubberduck-vba/Rubberduck/blob/bbb335ba680ac2b765e9de5094dce4ab70d638d2/Rubberduck.Resources/Registration/RubberduckGuid.cs#L3-L56
 
WaynePhillipsEA
WaynePhillipsEA
firstly, there are COCLASS types for each class
and I initially got excited as ITypeInfo::CreateInstance IS implemented on the coclass
 
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this
3:42 PM
hmm we currently can't tell if it's a class vs. standard module, right?
 
WaynePhillipsEA
WaynePhillipsEA
until I realized that it's just a standard implementation that defers to CoCreateInstance, which obviously fails because the coclass is not registered
 
Comintern
Comintern
Huh. That sounds like a hack.
 
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@Duga that's only the current GUIDs.
2.2 had some old GUIDs
 
Mathieu Guindon
Mathieu Guindon
@this fuuuuu
 
Comintern
Comintern
I.e., somewhere it was easier to just implement it as a CoClass as opposed to working around it.
 
WaynePhillipsEA
WaynePhillipsEA
3:44 PM
it's all a hack
 
Comintern
Comintern
IKR?
 
WaynePhillipsEA
WaynePhillipsEA
public enums are exposed in this ITypeLib though, which is interesting
 
KySoto
KySoto
sounds dodgy
 
Comintern
Comintern
I'm still curious if there's a way to get ahold of the class factory.
 
Duga
Duga
> Yes, @DiogoRNeves - if the subkey says Rubberduck, you can delete the entire CLSID or TypeLib node. Note that the code that @retailcoder linked only covers current GUIDs - to be thorough, we need to cover old GUIDs no longer in use. You can use Powershell script to help with locating all the registry keys or some registry tools that does a better job of going through the subtrees of the registry.
 
WaynePhillipsEA
WaynePhillipsEA
3:45 PM
probably the only potentially useful bit is that the source interfaces are listed for each class
 
KySoto
KySoto
also, i dont know what i am talking about
 
Duga
Duga
> IT does... a LOT! Thanks!
 
Comintern
Comintern
Not that you'd be able to do anything with it other than crash the host if the run-time wasn't active...
 
WaynePhillipsEA
WaynePhillipsEA
so we can pick up declared events
 
Duga
Duga
> Thanks! I'll let you know what happens.
 
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3:46 PM
I think having the source interfaces and coclass information is potentially useful esp. when analyzing a locked project.
 
Comintern
Comintern
Actually, grabbing the source interfaces would be a huge win in an of itself.
 
WaynePhillipsEA
WaynePhillipsEA
@Comintern I've never seen it implemented in VBA runtime. I would've thought I'd have come across it.
 
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could it be that VBA runtime has its own default implementation of the class factory?
 
Comintern
Comintern
Yeah, not surprised. I'm guessing that's done off interface.
 
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actually i guess if it did, it wouldn't even have to conform to the class factory interface.
 
WaynePhillipsEA
WaynePhillipsEA
3:47 PM
I think they just have their own private implementation. Not even necessarily conforming to IClassFactory, just something similar and kept internal.
 
Comintern
Comintern
It's probably in VBAComInterop or something like it.
 
Duga
Duga
 
WaynePhillipsEA
WaynePhillipsEA
@this exactly
 
Comintern
Comintern
With the prototypes for the .NET ComInterop hacks.
 
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@Comintern is "VBAComInterop" a thing?
 
Duga
Duga
3:49 PM
> AIUI, that is going to be fixed in upcoming PR #4535
 
WaynePhillipsEA
WaynePhillipsEA
so GetSomeRelatedTypeInfoPtrs() returns the private TKIND_DISPATCH interface I was talking about in the first argument, and the correspoinding source interface in the second argument
for the coclass you have to go looking for it in the ITypeLib container
 
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which we then have to correspond to the original typelib container.
 
Comintern
Comintern
@this God, I hope not.
 
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that seems to complicate the parsing process.
 
Comintern
Comintern
:pulls tongue out of cheek:
 
WaynePhillipsEA
WaynePhillipsEA
3:50 PM
@this exactly... a bit messy since we're already merging two versions
 
Duga
Duga
> This was by-design, since the VBIDE API doesn't allow us to access the modues of protected projects. With the linked PR, we'll be able to list the members and use them in the identifier resolution logic.
 
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What if we provided the related type infos to the typeinfowrapper, so that it can then pull informaion for itself?
 
Duga
Duga
> shoot, I fat fingered the enter button and it shot off pre-maturely.

I downloaded the latest version 2 minutes ago to be sure this wasn't resolved and searched open issues, but when I have a password protected VBA module it doesn't appear in the code explorer of Rubber duck and if I want to unlock the file for editing I need to go through the legacy project explorer menu. not sure if its intentional but I lock my projects for distribution in my organization and not having them appear in the
 
WaynePhillipsEA
WaynePhillipsEA
TypeInfoWrapper can pull that information in for sure.
 
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that would let us defer the reflection until we actually ask for it.
TypeInfoWrapper.GetCoClassInterface() => dive into the 3rd typeinfo => typelib, link it back to itself, then return the coclass.
something like that.
 
Duga
Duga
3:53 PM
> @retailcoder so this will eventually be changed to display even the protected modules?
 
WaynePhillipsEA
WaynePhillipsEA
The problem I had was... the ITypeLib is the buggy thing in this version. The two types you get back from GetSomeRelatedTypeInfoPtrs() seem fine. But going through the container ITypeLib can crash hard, particularly if a module is dirty.
 
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oof
 
WaynePhillipsEA
WaynePhillipsEA
so finding the coclass without touching something that crashes might be tricky
 
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hmm. if we're running on the UI thread, it shouldn't be possible to access module at the same time.
 
Duga
Duga
> Kind of - we'll be able to list the protected modules and their members (and signatures), but we can't override the VBE's protection and display the source code / navigate to locked projects' modules.

I gather that having a toggle-button to unlock a locked project would be a nice-to-have addition?
 
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3:55 PM
we can enforce checks that the module is not dirty before we attempt the access.
call it GetInterfaceUnsafe()?
 
WaynePhillipsEA
WaynePhillipsEA
GetInterfaceIfYoureLucky()
 
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it wouldn't be its responsibility to check the module's state.
 
Mathieu Guindon
Mathieu Guindon
I sense an ImFeelingLucky() easter egg coming up.
 
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That'll have to be on the caller.
since that is a UI thing.
@MathieuGuindon throw in that Clint Eastwood image, too!
 
WaynePhillipsEA
WaynePhillipsEA
The crashes I experienced were when calling my Document() extensions, which touch every part of the ITypeLib. It might be that just finding the appropriate coclass is fine. I'll try to test
 
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3:58 PM
it might be also better to not wrap that 3rd typeinfo, too.
e.g. don't give it out to us.
 
WaynePhillipsEA
WaynePhillipsEA
just consume it, merge it and discard?
 
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yeah
 
WaynePhillipsEA
WaynePhillipsEA
yeah, it might work
It will probably be the weekend before I get chance to have another look in depth, but I will.
 
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:+1: it'll be worth it, I think. :)
esp if comintern says it's a big win to have the interfaces.
 
Duga
Duga
> im mainly just look to SEE the protected module in the RubberDuck Code explorer and be able to click on it and be prompted for the unlock password just like the original VBIDE, because I have the password for my protected modules, they're just not even displaying in the code explorer
 
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4:02 PM
@Duga IDK if the command to unlock project is exposed. If it's, then should be easy to do.
 
WaynePhillipsEA
WaynePhillipsEA
I just want to avoid the wrappers becoming too complicated. I mean they're already pretty complicated.
 
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you forgot hardcore, too.
 
WaynePhillipsEA
WaynePhillipsEA
but if it adds value, then I'm sure we can do it.
 
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kind of too late for that, I think.
 
WaynePhillipsEA
WaynePhillipsEA
you could be right
 
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4:03 PM
Yes I think we'll definitely be able to use that information. IIRC, we had to bend over backward to find all implementations of interface.
 
Duga
Duga
> Yup, that's the plan! Note that there's very non-trivial black magic voodoo going on for this to happen - if you try to access the properties of a locked project's VBComponent, the VBIDE API throws an error (a COM exception, if you're doing this in .net).
 
WaynePhillipsEA
WaynePhillipsEA
oh I'm not sure if they're all there. I know the source interface is (i.e. events defined in the class), but I haven't checked for 'Implements' interfaces etc.
They should be on the coclass. I'll just go check that actually, wont take a few minutes
 
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Right.
 
WaynePhillipsEA
WaynePhillipsEA
right no, so even the coclass does not list Implements interfaces. The coclass just lists the default interface, and the source event interface
so the coclass doesn't seem to gain us much
 
Duga
Duga
> MS ACCESS 2010. Normal installation of RD. Loads normally when Access VBA opened. RD button says PENDING and most menu items grayed-out. Clicking on PENDING button does nothing. Code Explorer says "Rubberduck doesn't see anything yet." Clicking on REFRESH does nothing. Code Indenter works fine.
Settings for Code Indenter imported from Smart Indenter.

I've seen the same problem identified here in 2017, but there was no definitive resolution. RD Version 2.3.1.4308. I'd really like t
 
Mathieu Guindon
Mathieu Guindon
4:11 PM
@Duga identing the code should have triggered a parse
 
WaynePhillipsEA
WaynePhillipsEA
so this private version of ITypeInfo doesn't look to be much use to us. The only thing that looks useful is the source event interface
 
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@Comintern is finding event handlers an issue ATM?
 
Comintern
Comintern
@this Mainly on controls.
If the implemented interfaces are there, it would simplify a bunch of code that is document specific.
 
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Consider that the typelib api (well, in the current PR), we will get a function to get controls off a interface
 
Comintern
Comintern
I.e., being able to see the _Worksheet interface attached to Sheet1 would be huge.
 
WaynePhillipsEA
WaynePhillipsEA
4:13 PM
they're implementation of events though? the source interface just lists Event declerations, basically
@Comintern that's already available
 
Comintern
Comintern
@WaynePhillipsEA I thought those were composited by fm20.dll.
 
WaynePhillipsEA
WaynePhillipsEA
not the host ones
 
Comintern
Comintern
Although if that's the case, the ones I'm after probably won't be in the host. ^^
 
WaynePhillipsEA
WaynePhillipsEA
the funky runtime generated UserForms ones are available already too
you can basically get all the inherited interfaces already, apart from the ones defined in the VBA class through Implements keyword
 
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i was thinking about functionality like Find all event handlers or something like that. I seem to remember that the code to find that is kind of a performance nightmare.
whether that would be improved using the existing methods provided in typelib API already, or would be better done with the source interfaces provided by buggy 3rd typeinfo, I'm not sure.
 
WaynePhillipsEA
WaynePhillipsEA
4:21 PM
what I might do is just merge the newly found event source interface for each class into the types exposed by TypeInfoWrapper. I'm not seeing much value in the private interface version, nor the coclass at present.
 
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those latter are already exposed, right?
 
WaynePhillipsEA
WaynePhillipsEA
well we've got public/private info now via the 2 other versions. as for the coclass, it appears to just list the newly found private interface plus the source event interface
it it listed the Implements interfaces properly, I'd definitely add it in as well, but I don't see any value especially when you consider it's more difficult to obtain without crashing
 
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gotcha
 
mansellan
mansellan
@Duga probably unrelated, but I've seen this in my experimental branch when I hadn't set up the RD toolbar. The injenction logic for the refresh toolbar button is the only place where the parser event handler is subscribed, so no RD toolbar means all Refresh commands become no-op
 
WaynePhillipsEA
WaynePhillipsEA
g2g see you later guys
 
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4:27 PM
later!
 
Duga
Duga
> okay sweet! then I look forward to that! :)
> Was there anything written to the logfiles at %APP_DATA%\Rubberduck\Logs?
 
Duga
Duga
4:51 PM
> So, deleted all the keys that the ps1 scrupt found and the keys above don't exist. Still the same error:
![image](https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/7635693/51127097-9b969a00-181c-11e9-8ffe-bfb5bac1fc3b.png)

Thoughts?
> So, deleted all the keys that the ps1 script found and the keys above don't exist. Still the same error:
![image](https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/7635693/51127097-9b969a00-181c-11e9-8ffe-bfb5bac1fc3b.png)

Thoughts?

[edit]correcting a typo[/edit]
 
Mathieu Guindon
Mathieu Guindon
@Duga @this how does the installer detect a previous version again?
 
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yeah I forgot to tell him to delte another key
i'm trying to find that key
windows is so byzantine w/ installing/uninstalling....
sigh of course it has to have it in both HKLM and HKCU....
 
IvenBach
IvenBach
Install it in 2 places. What could go wrong?
 
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the problem is more that the 2.2 installer didn't uninstall completely
 
Duga
Duga
> Shoot, my bad. I need to clarify in my earlier comment that when I said to delete from `CLSID` and `TypeLib`, I should have also included the uninstaller key.

You need to look inside the subtree:

`HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Uninstall`

and

`HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Uninstall`

Locate any key that contains `Rubberduck` somewhere. There should be a key named `UninstallString`. Check that the path is in fact missin
 
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5:05 PM
^ probably should be a section in the troubleshooting.
Once the uninstaller is gone, Inno Setup / Windows isn't very smart about knowing that the registry key is now worthless.
hmm maybe they should have embedded the uninstaller inside the registry. LOL
 
Tweeting Duck
Tweeting Duck
5:39 PM
I’d normally just like something that’s already been deservedly RTed many times, but I wanted voice my support and admiration for @ChloeCondon and the dignified manner which she handled this incident over the weekend, and to highlight issues women have in tech. Do read it. 👏👏👏 https://twitter.com/chloecondon/status/1084740299383926784
Tweeted by _sarahyo on January 14, 2019 at 10:03 AM
Many people confuse refactoring with redesign. When they say they are refactoring and it takes hours (or worse days), they are not refactoring. They are redesigning. Refactoring are very small steps. And lots of them will lead to a redesign but in small incremental steps.
Tweeted by tdpauw on January 14, 2019 at 11:21 AM
Microsoft's Windows 7 has one year of free support left as of today: https://www.zdnet.com/article/microsofts-windows-7-has-one-year-of-free-support-left/
Tweeted by maryjofoley on January 14, 2019 at 1:20 PM
 
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@TweetingDuck so, I have been redesigning more than refactoring. :(
 
Mathieu Guindon
Mathieu Guindon
> I consistently use Joel’s suggestion for marking “unsafe” user input with the prefix “us” and “safe” data with the prefix “s”. – Sadly, the check for Systems Hungarian now produces false positives, because, obviously, I have strings starting with “s” (for “safe”, not for “string”)…
But, please, leave it on by default! I’ll suffer for the greater good and disable the check.
 
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@TweetingDuck I'm still not sure I'll migrate to 10 by then.
 
Mathieu Guindon
Mathieu Guindon
we're still all on Win7 here.
 
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@MathieuGuindon Nice! OTOH, I wonder how many other will read the code and think s is just a HN prefix for the prefix and think that the author was smoking when the author used us in other places.
 
Hosch250
Hosch250
5:48 PM
@MathieuGuindon Oh yeah?
Proud Windows 10er
 
Mathieu Guindon
Mathieu Guindon
yeah
happy with Win10 Pro at home
 
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The company isn't planning on upgrading?
It's one thing when an individual decides to be a stick in mud about upgrading. It's entirely another when an organization decides to be a stick in mud about upgrading.
 
Hosch250
Hosch250
So we are moving away from a company as we move to the cloud.
The information on the account (information from IT admin) is the name is "Domain Registration".
So, they refused to serve him.
He hung up, called back, and announced he was Mr. Domain Registration. Mission success.
 
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sounds like the other end has a dearth of brain.
 
Hosch250
Hosch250
IKR?
Or they desperately don't want us to stop using them.
 
Mathieu Guindon
Mathieu Guindon
6:04 PM
@Hosch250 wth
 
Hosch250
Hosch250
IKR?
 
Duga
Duga
> Makes sense. Thank you I have done it
 
IvenBach
IvenBach
Soon we'll have more stars than issues!
 
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you know, that can be achieved right now
by closing a bunch of issues. ;-)
 
Mathieu Guindon
Mathieu Guindon
randomly closes 40 issues
2
 
Comintern
Comintern
6:16 PM
@Hosch250 I would have gone with "Mr. Robert'); DROP TABLE students;--" and helpfully spelled it out for them.
 
Hosch250
Hosch250
Somehow I don't think they have a students table.
And you still wouldn't have gotten them to do the work.
 
this
this
there's another problem - in order to get to that point you'll have to create the entry originally, which would have executed the sql already
 
Comintern
Comintern
We might have accumulated 40 duplicate issues.
 
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this
what I'd like to do is register as Mr. Password inspector and when I call, I can announce that I'm inspecting the passwords for security and ask them to give me their passwords.
 
Comintern
Comintern
I'm guessing there are a handful that can be closed as support still floating around out there too.
@this "Hi, I'm trying to change my password and it's asking me for the old one..."
I've heard that works at an alarming rate.
 
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6:20 PM
oof. They give that out?
What a bunch of monkeys.
 
Hosch250
Hosch250
Muahahha
You guys just gave me an idea.
Step 1: Run for Congress.
Step 2: Pass a bill in the name of security that creates a government agency to inspect passwords randomly.
Step 3: Become head of that agency.
Step 4: Profit.
Step 5: Get in a fight with the NSA as to who's domain this is.
I swear, though, that I'm likely to have a full-body cavity scan if I ever fly, considering what gets discussed in the worldbuilding chat.
 
KySoto
KySoto
lol
thats a good one
 
FreeMan
FreeMan
6:40 PM
and all this time I've been thinking Profit. was Step 3. #TIL
 
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The origin of password inspection:
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Hosch250
Hosch250
6:57 PM
@this WT*. That first phrase is like "how much jargon and buzzwords can I fit into a single sentence?"
 
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it does say movie hacking....
we all know how awesome Hollywood is at their fact checking.
 
Hosch250
Hosch250
I think Hollywood usually does slightly better than that, LOL.
 
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this
the "basic the ddos root" kills me.
 
Hosch250
Hosch250
"Overclock the Unix Django" got me.
Or a "backdoor handshake". Sounds like a drug dealer.
Or maybe a union gangster.
 
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IKR?
I seem to recall something similar on the old movie, The Net, with Sandra Bullock.
Click on a skull = backdoor.
even back then when I was much more illiterate, I knew that wasn't how hacking was done.
 
Comintern
Comintern
7:03 PM
I suppose it's probably not good that my mind goes to a completely different place when I hear "backdoor handshake"...
 
Vogel612
Vogel612
does it go the place I think it does?
 
Comintern
Comintern
Probably.
 
Vogel612
Vogel612
if yes... what??? how?????? ewwww!???!!...
 
Mathieu Guindon
Mathieu Guindon
lol
 
Comintern
Comintern
IKR?
 
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this
7:04 PM
i'm not sure you would shake hands like that.
 
Vogel612
Vogel612
that said if you take handshake to mean a defined access protocol opening sequence, stuff like port knocking to get access to a compromised system would fall under that category
and that honestly doesn't seem to be such a terrible idea...
 
Duga
Duga
 
Vogel612
Vogel612
@Duga it seems like we could use a "missing information" label or something like that
I replied within minutes and now, three hours later, ...
 
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other repos use need-more-info, I think.
 
Comintern
Comintern
status-clarification-requested?
 
Duga
Duga
7:08 PM
 
Comintern
Comintern
status-info-requested?
 
Duga
Duga
> Glad to hear! Thanks for reporting back.
 
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spreadBetweenStarsAndIssues--;
IDK. I like need-more-info primarily because it's a command to give more information.
status-xxx sounds more like a description than a command.
 
IvenBach
IvenBach
@this That gave me a needed chortle.
 
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you're welcome!
 
Comintern
Comintern
7:11 PM
We could go fully the other direction with incomplete-issue
 
IvenBach
IvenBach
'Backdoor handshake' is making me laugh the more I think about it. TheOatmeal should do something with that phrase.
 
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why not issue-has-issues?
 
Comintern
Comintern
lol
meta-issue
 
Duga
Duga
> Yes .... This is the log:

2019-01-14 14:09:08.7349;TRACE-2.3.1.4308;Rubberduck.Common.LogLevelHelper;
Rubberduck version 2.3.1.4308 loading:
Operating System: Microsoft Windows NT 6.2.9200.0 x64
Host Product: Microsoft Office 2010 x86
Host Version: 14.0.7195.5000
Host Executable: MSACCESS.EXE;
2019-01-14 14:09:12.4067;DEBUG-2.3.1.4308;Rubberduck.UI.Command.MenuItems.CommandBars.AppCommandBarBase;(28090371) Executing click handler for commandbar item 'Pending', hash code 22527411;
 
Vogel612
Vogel612
@this isn't that an epic?
 
Duga
Duga
7:13 PM
> Yes .... This is the log:

```
2019-01-14 14:09:08.7349;TRACE-2.3.1.4308;Rubberduck.Common.LogLevelHelper;
Rubberduck version 2.3.1.4308 loading:
Operating System: Microsoft Windows NT 6.2.9200.0 x64
Host Product: Microsoft Office 2010 x86
Host Version: 14.0.7195.5000
Host Executable: MSACCESS.EXE;
2019-01-14 14:09:12.4067;DEBUG-2.3.1.4308;Rubberduck.UI.Command.MenuItems.CommandBars.AppCommandBarBase;(28090371) Executing click handler for commandbar item 'Pending', hash code 2252
 
Comintern
Comintern
@Duga Wrong button there?
 
Vogel612
Vogel612
^^ is it me or does that point to a corrupt project?
 
Duga
Duga
> Thanks. Hit the wrong button.
 
Comintern
Comintern
2
Q: RubberDuck Parse Error on Initial Refresh

KacireeSoftwareI installed RubberDuck and opened an Access 2007 Database I use as a code testing ground. When I click Refresh on the RD toolbar, the text continued to say Pending. After several click on the refresh button I open Settings and unchecked/Rechecked a random checkbox and clicked Ok. At that point my...

rubberduck
Heh. That was the top hit for the CLSID.
 
Duga
Duga
> #3033 seems closely related. The specific error message in the log seems to indicate that your office installation is somewhat corrupted. #4078 also seems related.

A remotely related issue has already been closed at #3058
 
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7:19 PM
@Comintern which clsid
 
Vogel612
Vogel612
the one from the log
> '{000C0308-0000-0000-C000-000000000046}'
 
Comintern
Comintern
That one ^
 
Duga
Duga
[rubberduck-vba/Rubberduck] web-flow pushed commit c73f0c9d to issue-templates: Add Bug Report Template
 
Vogel612
Vogel612
^^ reviews and suggestions for more templates very welcome
 
Hosch250
Hosch250
> If no log was created, check your settings.
Please say the log file location.
 
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7:30 PM
include the path, too
I'm inclined to suggest that the log and OS info should be at the top
otherwise when they open the issue, they won't see the rest of template and jsut select+all and delete then type in whatever
 
Vogel612
Vogel612
yea....
 
Duga
Duga
improve bug report issue template

Move version information to the front to facilitate it's inclusion in every issue. Add the path to the logfiles
 
IvenBach
IvenBach
> If a log file is created and there's nobody there to read it, does it matter?
I'm in a mood today for sure.
 
Duga
Duga
7:46 PM
> Thanks. I'll check them out and do a "repair" on the office installation.
[rubberduck-vba/Rubberduck] build for commit bbb335ba on next: AppVeyor build succeeded
 
Hosch250
Hosch250
8:03 PM
New joke:
A guy walks into a bar.
Says "give me a wine". The bartender says "What year?"
The guy says "I want it today."
 
Mathieu Guindon
Mathieu Guindon
hands glass of raisin juice
 
mansellan
mansellan
Two bytes are chatting. First byte: "I think I'm coming down with a parity error". Second byte: "Yeah, you do look a bit off".
 
Mathieu Guindon
Mathieu Guindon
huh, I missed the 726th star... what's with the star-shower today?
 
Duga
Duga
 
Mathieu Guindon
Mathieu Guindon
@Duga you're trolling, right?
 
FreeMan
FreeMan
8:28 PM
lol!
 
IvenBach
IvenBach
8:41 PM
@mansellan :+1:
I get that now.
 
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