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8:30 AM
@b_jonas to be fair, I almost had the opposite felling - it almost seemed like Celestia plans was to use Twilight to finally get rid of an organization that seems founded into bigotry
 
 
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10:13 AM
@Derpy Oh, so it's like a win-win thing where Celestia profits no matter whether Twilight or the education association wins the fight? Even better.
Sadly it didn't work out that well for him, because I think the education association isn't destroyed, and Twilight's school started as well.
 
 
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11:32 AM
@b_jonas long discussion is looooooong, trying to read the other comments too.
btw, this one image from the page before is above average.
glad I checked to see if anyone already posted any comment
btw, on a side notice, one of the other users said something interesting about Iron Will.
> "Satisfaction Guaranteed or you pay nothing" for assertiveness lessons can't really be taken advantage of except in Fluttershy's specific case. Either it didn't work and you're not assertive enough to claim that you're not satisfied or you assert youself that you're not satisfied inwhich case the argument can be made that the seminar worked and you owe Iron Will his fee.
^ just to add to that, this is simply an example of the old Catch 22.
ok, @b_jonas, think I have read all the comments on the premiere. Or I hope so.
Let's start with mine.
Opening scene, as you said...
nice for them to actually acknowledge the movie (now, if you please would also acknowledge the existence of Radiant Hope I would be very happy, thanks writers), yet I don't really understand why the map would decide to display the location of just one random pirate ship and ignore all the other flying ships that must exist in the world.
Is the map so smart that now it just display thing to remind Twilight to write them down / tell them to Starlight?
Will it soon start to also remind them of any appointment? Will Rarity cutie mark start buzzing to remind her her next hoof-polish session?
Also, thank you for inviting Tempest, my dear Twily, but I should remind you there is someone else that need to be invited in an episode of the MAIN show.
Little clue: she has bacon hairs and is very close to this message...
anyway, she wants to open a school.
won't comment on this for now.
let's leave it for later...
but probably there is a "reason".
Anyway, excluding out-of-world writers motives, in world this seems like an odd thing to do.
little ago she was "what do I do with Starlight" and now she wants an entire school.
so, she asks Celestia for suggestions.
and Celestia pulls out the usual "rat from the hat" reply.
It seems that Equestria has some form of weird education association that somehow "controls" school structure and rules. And somehow they don't seem to be under the two princess control.
Mind you, this wouldn't be much surprising at all, but since even now Celestia seems to vaguely hint that she finds said association a little "old styled" it is somehow weird to think that she didn't try to interfere with it before. Unless she is actually plan to have Twily do all the manual work as usual ^_^'
also by this point I was already asking myself something.
The EEA is an association that "controls" education, but based on what they show it is clear that they only medle with basic school education - I mean things like math, history, geography and so on.
Twilight school is basically a 24/7 campus that would only apparently focus on friendship.
Basically, on one side you have math, numbers and science. On the other you have "Ethics and Moral Precepts" class - something that actually exist in Japanese schools but probably isn't a thing in the USA
It is like comparing apples to oranges as AJ would say, and it is clear as the morning sky from the start that trying to apply the "Teaching math" handbook to teaching Ethics won't work at all.
But they are cute little candy colored ponies after all, they won't notice this until premiere episode 2.
Quick selfreminder:
> ponies need to bang their head in a problem before recognizing the obvious solution and can't be expected to notice it from the start. Having affronted the same problem in the past does not influence a pony response to the same problem representing itself in the future.
so, Celestia hands Twily a big old dusty manual to use as a reference for the school building thing.
Twily then uses the old Reductio Ab Nauseam technique and produce a 20k pages long relation about her pland to give to the association members. You say this is just Twily being Twily, I say this is Twily being Twily while also being sure that no one will actually read the book she wrote.
(wouldn't be so surprised if the central pages of said relation where actually a collection of Pinkie Pie songs...)
Anyway, she appears in front of the Education Cabal.
.... Yep, I said Cabal.
That thing....
> So Copernic I mean, Twilight Sparkle. Do you still insist in your heretic claims that the sun is in the center of the universe and Celestia is actually moving the earth to turn around it? This is BLASPHEMY!
Wouldn't it be more appropriate to call the thing EIT? Equestrian Inquisition Tribunal?
also, bonus point for having the totally-not-evil Mephistopheles impersonator as the council head member. I mean, it must have been a shock for everypony when in a totally unexpected turn of events that character will turn out to be a "not-so-nice" guy just a little later.
and just one more little thing....
just under Neysaygh ... the orange pony one the left.
Have we finally found where Scootaloo father was all the time?
HE IS IDENTICAL TO HER.
Please, Mr Unamed Pony, you have a little one waiting for you in ponyville.
please, drop this association thing and return home so that we may finally see Scoot sleeping in something that doesn't seem an orphanage dormitory.
Back to the story, using the boredom tactic Twily manages to get a temporary approval stamp. Back on this later, but I wonder why she need it in the first place.
I mean, the thing only seems to cover "how to teach science" rules. Considering that she won't teach those....
it is like an martial arts school trying to get an accreditation for "best architecture school".
bah.
Brand maybe?
Are ponies really so crazy that -by comparison- they need a dress designer stamp of approval on their apple cider or they won't buy it?
the way the association is portrayed seems to suggest that the regulations does not even include other more generic suggestions like school building safety rules or other similar things - basically the only ones Twily could make actual use of since they would still fit her plan.
either way, armed with Hasbro Head council stamp of approval Twily can finally build the school.
how the school is build will be a mystery.
Did they plant a seed? It is prefabricated building? Did they just order the new "Twily Friendship School" playset Hasbro is bound to have on Amazon and waited for delivery???
But no time to wonder: school is open.
And the first students are here.
Conveniently enough, each of the main races in the latest season sent a student. So we get a yak, a changeling, a griffon, a seapony , a dragon, and a passerby pony
So, basically, Twilight school acceptance requests are a LIFO - Last In, First Out.
only the latest arrivals gets a place.
Buffaloes will have to wait till next seasons, and so will Diamond Dogs (not to mention the comic-only races)
A pity if you ask me. They should have also included Little Strongheart, but I guess the writers forgot about her existence.
Anyway, it is pretty clear that some of the characters DON'T want to be there.
But it is handled somehow poorly on their part.
I mean, the more credible ones to use would be Dragons (they have to do as Ember says but not everyone likes it. Smolder could have been Garble smaller brother, and that could have been used for a future episode with Garble finally changing ways - wasted opportunity 1)
Or changelings, since we already saw the same thing with Thorax brother.
Even the yak would have been more credible.
Instead, the "don't know why I am here" guy is the griffon.
Mind you, not saying that the griffon being grouchy is less credible. The fact that buzz me off is that said griffon was coerced into going to school by the usual old, far grouchier griffon that we already saw in other episodes. Was he at least somehow related to either Hilda or Gabby I could have understood, but this seems a little forced.
 
1:46 PM
@Derpy I think that's more like an example for the Protagoras paradox, which Smullyan describes in more than one variant en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_the_Court
@Derpy I hope no. Twilight already has a number one assistant plus a feathered familiar.
@Derpy I found that part entirely realistic because of what I met in the real world.
Too realistic for MLP really.
 
2:01 PM
@b_jonas yep, I know, I think that the catch-22 thing is far more "generic" though.
 
@Derpy What orange pony? I don't see anyone like that.
^ These are the four ponies on the middle. None of them look orange.
And these are the six side ponies. None of them have Scootaloo's hair.
 
@b_jonas second row, the first on the left. Consider the shading, it is a dark room
 
Mind you, the nearly bald pony with white coat and glasses is one we know, from S2 E17 "Hearts and Hooves Day":
 
if you look at the neck in the first image you posted you will notice that he is indeed orange
 
"This one's too old."
 
2:09 PM
it is the only area of his face lit by the desk lamp. The rest of the face seems a lot darker - because the room is dark.
 
Well, I don't think he looks much like Scootaloo, but whatever, for all I know, he could be Scootaloo's father.
 
will try and see if I can lit up the image a little when I have some time. The color scheme seems pretty close to me imho
anyway, back to the story.
For some reason, lately Twily has been stealing the defects of her friends.
So, today she awoke as Rari-Twily.
 
@Derpy You can find the answer to that in S6 E12 "Spice Up Your Life"
And a little bit in S5 E14 "Canterlot Boutique" too.
 
@b_jonas that was about a gourmet giving stars to restaurants, wasn't it? At least he was giving rates to the thing he was supposedly good at.
here the EEA is giving rating to something that isn't just their field of work.
 
@Derpy "School building safety rules"? What? In a world where you grow crystal palaces from a tree chest? I'm not sure how much success they'd have with that.
@Derpy Yeah, one of those might be close to truth.
@Derpy An elf, four hobbits, a dwarf...
@Derpy Aren't the diamond dogs still enslaved by the Grand Intellect through mind pendants? You can't solve that with a school.
@Derpy Oh, and the "passerby pony" is canadian.
 
2:20 PM
@b_jonas the EEA probably has "regulations/advice" on how to teach ponies what a cutie mark is, teaching fillies about derivatives(how to forget Cheerilee teach Analysis 2 to primary school students?). They don't have a clue about friendship, field trips and such. Twilight should have asked PRINCIPAL Celestia for advice, not Princess Celestia and the EEA
 
Ah no, that's a different student. Not one of the focused ponies. Let me find them.
 
also, had she called it "Friendship Monastery" all this mess wouldn't have happened.
Trust me, Twily, turn the school thing into a church.
 
Yup, here is the canadian pegasus: an adult male with pale yellow coat and red single-colored mane and yellow eyes, in the bottom left corner of this shot:
 
@b_jonas based on the comics, no slavery involved - they are simply the equestiran equivalent of the magpie, which may explain why they hide in tree.
 
@Derpy I know. The mind pendants are my own headcanon.
 
2:27 PM
anyway, as I said, Raritwy shows that she can impersonate Rarity very well, and therefore shows generosity by providing all the other mane six with a secure work position at the school.
I don't know how happy they are (or how happy are the ponies that will have to make up for them - Big Mac is already pretty busy without needing to also have to feed the chickens...)
still, school start.
and soon I wonder.
This school....
seems almost a campus with dormitories and stuff
like the students could also stay and eat at the school...
 
@Derpy She did ask Principal Celestia of the school for gifted unicorns. Celestia brushed her off and sent her to the board and its regulations. Perhaps Celestia could have handled it better than that.
 
@b_jonas Celestia is the PRINCIPAL of that school or just the founder / sponsor?
 
@Derpy That would be worse. Then she'd be fighting Hasbro marketing department and the real world moral guardian parents. I'd rather take the pony education association board any day.
 
but... you know... now you made me realize something.
have you by chance checked The Cutiemark Chronicles after watching the premiere?
when Twily is left with the green-now-purple egg, she is shown trying to hatch it in front of an examination committee
did you by any chance checked if those ponies could in any way be reconnected to the EEA ?
 
@Derpy The purple-purple egg from
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A: Why did Starswirl the Bearded invent an 'amniomorphic spell'?

b_jonasIn S1 E23 “The Cutie Mark Chronicles”, we learn of how Twilight Sparkle got her cutie mark. She got it on an entrance exam to Princess Celestia's School for Gifted Unicorns, in which she had to cast a spell to make a dragon egg hatch. Twilight was eventually able to solve this task, and this un...

 
2:34 PM
I know when the S1 aired EEA probably wasn't even in the plans, but any hope there is some similar face / uniform in there?
 
This is the committee.
 
nope, sadly they don't have the red dress. Thank you for finding the image anyway.
 
The educational association board has a lot of ponies with newer face shapes, whereas the unicorn school one is obviously all the plain S1 shapes.
 
was hoping for some way to "canonize" those ponies as the first appearance of some EEA committee
oh, well.
 
Well, you be the judge but I don't think there's any interesection here.
Though some of these ponies may of course appear elsewhere other than in committee boards.
Hopefully they don't sit doing committee works all day every day.
 
2:39 PM
back to the Friendship School, another interesting question.
What is the expected age for the students?
Think before reply.
conveniently enough, all the main students we follow are "kids"
but is that the case? Many of the group shots include ponies with the young/adult body shape
 
@Derpy I don't think I can reply to that until after the full season, because, like I said, the school reappears in several episodes.
 
the point is that the schools seems to be only about friendship.
No other pony out of Twily is probably qualified enough to give lessons in other fields
Unless you suggest AJ is giving ponies MATH lessons
 
@Derpy I don't really know what the school is about. Applejack seems to be teaching about apples and crossed out oranges.
@Derpy They could give lessons in art or agriculture or fashion.
 
what I mean is that if the young ponies are suppose to learn some history/geography/math basis at school...
 
Or even flying and awesomeness.
@Derpy Probably not those, sure.
Well....
 
2:44 PM
they surely don't learn those at Twily school...
so, where do they learn those?
Basically, my question is:
 
if Twilight and Starlight were willing to teach secrets of Equestria's history that Celestia was trying to cover up, then perhaps some ponies would be interested in that. But I think Twilight is too obedient to do that.
Yeah, they'd need the bacon pony for that.
 
you are a filly in Ponyville and you go to Cheerilee school. How can you also go to Twily school?
and what if you are a dragon that came from a far away country?
 
@Derpy We have several questions like scifi.stackexchange.com/q/7436/4918 "Does Hogwarts teach non magical classes?"
At least they have ONE competent teacher in Ponyville, Cheerilee.
 
@b_jonas BINGO
 
@Derpy Cheerilee might teach a dragon too, if they or their parents are willing.
 
2:47 PM
@b_jonas So, now we need a fan comic about Cheerilee teaching Smolder about cutie marks.
 
Or, yeah, Twilight could teach everyone everything. She's already taught unicycles and potions and unicorn magic in one episode, right?
@Derpy No, not specifically about that. We have other teachers who can teach them about cutie marks in Ponyville, you know.
 
that said, time is also another small problem since they seem to be at friendship school most of the time.
 
@Derpy I'm not sure about that.
About all we know about the schedules of the schools is that Cheerilee's school has a school bell.
Which is like a church bell on a tower, by the way.
That's not the kind of bell we had in school. Ours was electric.
 
I don't know.. for some reasons I don't think the writers really considered that those characters must continue their normal education while also following Twily&Co lessons.
but yep, that is the last of the issues there.
 
2:52 PM
Anyway, initially the other mane six do what they want with the school. And obviously the kids are like SUPER HAPPY.
wonder why.
 
@Derpy They got rid of their annoying parents. Change like that is always nice for a week or two.
 
@b_jonas I mean, who would choose "Cupcake Tasting Course" with Pinkie Pie over the regular school classes they must have been following so far (remember: Scoot usually falls asleep during Cheerilee lessons, and the only time we saw Apple Bloom actually interested in what she said it was only because "CUTIE MARKS!!!!")
 
@Derpy We see very little of Cheerilee's typical classes.
I mean what you're saying is believable, but we don't really know what the normal school for any of the students are, in either school.
 
party cannons >>>> learning stuff
at least for a filly.
 
And a good thing too, I wouldn't want to watch a show about school lessons themselves.
 
2:57 PM
not every filly out there is a small Twily
(BTW, that is the biggest lost opportunity with the school. They should have added a small filly that behaved like Twily used to do before being sent to Ponyville)
(and have the plot revolve around Twily making sure said filly doesn't follow her road and become alone... Eeek, may also have been an excuse to pull back poor forgotten Twily #2 Moon Dancer in an episode)
 
@Derpy What would be the point of that? We had Starlight lessons throughout S6 and S7 for that. Weren't they enough?
And yes, also Moon Dancer, and EG Twilight, which are even good stories.
 
@b_jonas nope, because that were in another context. What I meant is that since they had to pull a school in the mix, instead of doing yet another Mane six alternate version thing.... they should just have keept it about teaching others. More on this later.
 
Well, that may happen in later episodes, or not shown. Though how such a student would end up in Friendship school is also a question. Presumably their parents force them.
 
@b_jonas I fear that by now I have the episode advantage over you so I won't comment on future things
will just add that yep, as you expect they carry on with the school thing in many episodes (luckily not as much as one would fear)
and that goes far in the season too.
this is why, instead of what they actually do, I would have preferred the story to focus on some small filly that wanted to go at the school because she wanted to become just like Twily.
I mean, for what we know season 9 could be the last for this generation.
 
@Derpy Exactly. You can still compare this to past episodes, up to S7, like S7 E6 with Camp Friendship.
No wait, wrong episode.
 
3:07 PM
I don't want an show ending that is basically "what works will the mane six do in the future"
leave that nonsense to useless sitcom writers.
 
S7 E21 with Camp Friendship.
 
I would by far prefer an ending that basically doesn't change the status-quo of the characters roles (I could accept Big Mac getting actually married, but please nothing more than that) but finally gives some conclusion to the character defects
Obviously, I don't want them to become flawless...
 
I must compare to it, because they're both terrible ideas on how to teach the youngsters. It's like a plague in Ponyville.
 
but ... at least fix their past issues.
For Twily, that means finally realizing that she is good even without trying to be a smaller version of Celestia.
and putting herself in front of a mirror of what she used to be like could be the best way to do that.
 
@Derpy Go to school because they want to become just like Twilight? Haven't you had enough of that when the entire youth of Ponyville claimed that back in S4 E15 Twilight Time? :-)
 
3:12 PM
@b_jonas they wanted to spend time with her, not being like her.
it is not the "want to be a princess too"
It is the "Celestia is the best and I want to grow up to be wise and cool as her"
I want someone that put her on a pedestal as a flawless pony, like she does with Celestia. Someone that is not a meme for a show fan, someone that actually "loves" her to the point of fearing to speak her mind and delude her
someone that would skip going out with friends to stay home and study to impress her.
In a way it is very close to what Moon Dancer tried, but the context was different. At that time, Twily didn't notice.
Now she could notice someone else doing the same.
anyway, back to the premiere.
Everyone is happy, school actually works.
Then poor Twily notices we are only about 15 minutes in a double episode...
HOW DO I FILL THE REST???
then she remembers Lesson Zero
> If there is no friendship problem, I will create a friendship problem
- Twilight Sparkle, Lesson Zero, Season 2 Episode 3
 
@Derpy Heh.
 
so, in order to save the premiere (because there is no way she had something else in mind) she is forced to pull out a new plot: if we follow the rulebook to the letter, ponies will get depressed and we will have something to do in the next 35 minutes
Brilliant! A plot so devious even Starlight didn't notice it was clearly intentional on Twily part.
......
or you may actually just assume this is yet again the "If I fail the school it is magic kindergarden time so I must do things by the manual even if it makes no sense because I am not very good and must follow whatever thing Celestia the perfect gave me"
 
@Derpy How do you know she didn't notice? Do you think Starlight has ethical restraints against such a thing?
 
@b_jonas nope, just the "Will tell you what you did wrong" line. If she noticed that was intentional self sabotage to save the episode plot, there wasn't need for the snarky comment. While it may help to give a red herring , she could have done a lot better by playing along for a while.
so, thanks to the "switch to rulebook mode" thing, the ponies are now unhappy as expected for a premiere
at this point, the episode is back on his track to go to the expected conclusion.
Neyseigh returns to check the school and obviously proofs right from the start that he didn't even open the report Twily wrote.
He is somehow surprised that the school accept other "races", something that probably was explicity mentioned from the start
in the meantime, the Young Six as the fandom call them are pretty bored with the lessons.
the situation degenerates and the school is forcibly closed.
now, at this point it is somehow clearer what the writers had in mind....
but let's look a little closer.
The EEA head minister starts off with some very racist claims, nothing new for our world but kinda of a first for the show.
 
3:42 PM
@Derpy Right. And like I said, the strange part is that yaks don't get mad.
 
Then he continues with some political- military speech, claiming that knowing other countries is only needed to know your enemy and turn their weakness against them.
@b_jonas check again, the prince gets mad and so does Ember. The only reason the smart guy isn't stomped and incinerated on place is because the two respect Twily more than they hate the guy.
Basically, it works by showing that now even the yak prince can be more considerate that a racist pony.
It works in contest.
they know that it is just a fool saying thing and the other ponies are probably different, so they try to not destroy him to not get thing worse (and in turn prove his point - remember, offend your foe and then play the victim if he replies)
 
@Derpy Yes, exactly. Even in E2, they don't get mad enough to trample Chancelor Neighsay, nor do the dragons burn him with their magical fire.
Right, it may make sense here in E1.
 
so, the fact that they don't fight back doesn't surprise me.
What surprise me is that no one steeps in later.
The school is closed, and I suspect the new would have traveled fast.
Next scene should have been Celestia coming to Ponyville
 
@Derpy No, Celestia was busy saving Neighsay from the wrath of dragons and yaks.
Sorry, I can't shake off the analogy with Umbridge and the centaurs.
 
Even if she was like "I can't do a thing, they are the authority in their field" it would make sense to have her come in before the premiere end
also, it would have make sense to try to build up a finale when Twily reopens the "no longer accredited school but I don't care because they hadn't anything to accredit in the first place" because she speaks with the students.
Instead, Starlight.
And since Starlight still has to be snarky we don't even get the much cuter scene that Sunset could have provided. Oh, well.
Once again, writer, she is not Vegeta, princess of sayajin ponies. She can smile if you draw her that way. Pretty please?
And since the writers must have had also a lot of problems filling the episode time, we also get an added side - unneeded plotline -
 
3:55 PM
Starlight was sort of right for Twilight's state though.
 
the young six escape, and Twily get the blam
not much more to say on that.
 
@Derpy That was before, in E1. Porcupines and all, then Mane Six saves them. Entirely riddiculous.
 
the only weird thing is that they escape to Everfree.
 
Not just Twilight. The entire Mane Six had to save them.
 
to the Sisters's castle even.
 
3:56 PM
It's crazy.
 
and because reasons said castle is in a sunny grass field.
now.... where is the Everfree in all of this?
Isn't the Everfree that weird places with wolves made out of timber, cockatrices, tangling wines, black trees and stuff, always dark and scary all year long?
Did the Ponyville Historical Landmarks Preservation Association (PHLPA) teleported the entire castle out of the forest and placed it in Sweet Apples acres?
either way, that only servers as a filler thing. Kudos to the evil porcupines of doom.... Equestria fauna is very friendly as usual
 
Friendship problem, check. Monsters, check.
 
That said, at least it reminded me of the wonderful line Fluttershy had in a comic
"they are just fighting for dominance over the right to eat us".
yep, thank you 'Shy.
You are as random as ever.
back to the episode, basically not much more happens. The actual finale is just a realization that the school didn't had much to share with an actual school in the first place, that Iron Will was right and having the "Princess Twily seal of approval" on the door sells more school subscriptions than the EEA logo, that Celestia was on vacation all the time and that the Young Six are here to stay for all the season.
it's a weird episode all said. And I have the felling they wanted to do something different but had to work around some external interference (see: EG 1)
That would at least explain why the episode seemed to be padded with filler content (the Castles&Hedgehogs thing above everything else)
 
4:15 PM
@Derpy A pony wedding! Such a good idea, we could sell a lot of toys!
 
I think I have told you in the past about a japanese manga called "Assasination classroom"?
 
Sorry, I'm wrong above. The porcupine attack thing happens in the second episode.
And monsters! And then the Mane Six saves the children from monsters using the Power of Friendship, certainly the best way to teach friendship!
Yeah, it's disappointing.
 
> Earth is threatened by an enormously powerful monster who apparently destroyed 70% of the Moon, leaving it permanently shaped like a crescent. The monster claims that within a year he will destroy the planet, but he offers mankind a chance to avert this fate. In class 3-E, the End Class of Kunugigaoka Junior High School, he starts working as a homeroom teacher where he teaches his students regular subjects, as well as the ways of assassination.
> The Japanese government promises a reward of ¥10 billion (i.e. 100 million USD) to whoever among the students succeeds in killing the monster, whom they have named "Koro-sensei". However, this proves to be an almost impossible task, as not only does he have several superpowers at his disposal, including the capacity of moving at Mach 20, but he is also the best teacher they've ever had, helping them to improve their grades, individual skills, and perspectives for the future.
this is the basic plot summary.
to put this into context.
Class E is a class that is composed by students that the government considered a lost cause and just decided to forgot about.
Koro Sensei is the suspected cause of the destruction of the moon and has threaten to destroy earth too.
yet, he is the only one who actually genuinely cares about those students.
Saying anything else would be too spoilery on the series, but you can see how the comics is in reality a very harsh satire on Japanese school infrastructure.
In japan, it is very easy to doom your future because your grades aren't good enough. Even in primary school.
...
I think that school daze was trying to do the same about America education and schools.
the fact that they brought plain racism in the show is very odd.
I suspect that the episode was initially planned to be a lot more direct at bashing the education associations but had to be toned down because the producers feared a negative feedback
And even as it is now it is very "crude" at some point. I think Neighsay even manages to slip in something like "they can do that at home" while speaking about the other races.
Which if you think about it means that he basically used the classic "Return to Africa!" disgusting racist insult that too many time is used by horrible persons.
 
@Derpy Why is that odd?
 
@b_jonas because this is a kid show, and often they can't even manage to say "death" without getting an angry mob of parents armed with torches and pitchforks at their doors, claiming they "traumatized their kids"
shall I remind you that back in season one Steven was turned in a female in some countries because his character was considered too offensive?
and that is just because they deemed him "girly" and let homophobia do the rest...
nahh, I fear that the writers have to check the episodes many times in order to prevent scandals and angry parents
Which doesn't mind those scandals would make any sense, mind you... just that they have to live with it.
...
In this case, I think that if they actually tried to make the episode more direct they would have meet harsh feedback from some obtuse parents.
For once, I would have loved if Twily decided to reopen the school not because Starlight talked her into it, but instead because she saw what a school managed by Neightsay looks like.
an horrible place, filled with racism and dehumanization.
... but I guess we won't get that.
It is already a miracle they managed to do Harrison Bergeron with ponies in season six with Starlight story.
 
 
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@Derpy Sure, but the show is now in the eighth session and quite successful, so they can afford to be more risky. You've seen that since S6 I think.
@Derpy Are you sure? I don't think that's the reason why she was turned female. It was just probably not clear from the episode whether Steven is male or female.
Sure, he has a moustache, but come on, he's also a sea monster.
@Derpy That was season 5.
Ok, I guess you may be right about Steven. Rarity clearly says "Excuse me, sir".
Still, it could be just incompetence or something. I don't think it has to be homophobia.
 

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