Root Access

12:36 AM

Getting Github integration with Atom editor to work is painful.

tomshardware.com/news/amd-ryzen-pcie-4.0-motherboard,38401.html

Interesting... PCIe 4.0 may be possible on existing boards, and not only that, they are making the 500-series chipsets at GlobalFoundries from an in-house design, rather than having ASMedia supplying them.

Michael Frank

12:47 AM

So when Windows says "Don't turn off your computer" that's just a suggestion, right?

bwDraco

While Windows's servicing stack does have measures to prevent data corruption from occurring (indeed, everything is supposed to be transactional), there is a risk of the system being rendered unbootable or otherwise corrupted if you cut power during an update.

Journeyman Geek

@bertieb any nefarious plans involve cats not dogs

Michael Frank

@JourneymanGeek No, the cats mastermind the plans. The dogs unwittingly carry them out.

bwDraco

1:34 AM

pcworld.com/article/3332205/amd/…

> While Su didn't say for certain that the upcoming 3rd-generation Ryzen would ship with more than the eight cores that she announced on stage, well, it wasn't hard to read between the lines. "If you look at the evolution of Ryzen, we've always had an advantage in core count," Su said.

[...]

"Some people may have noticed on the package some extra room," she said with a chuckle. "There is some extra room on that package and I think you might expect we will have more than eight cores."

16 cores confirmed?

:P

I'm looking forward to when they actually announce third-generation Ryzen parts.

There's no reason for AMD to have left such a conspicuous hole in the chip package if they're not going to add a second chiplet there.

Also, we don't even know what clock frequencies that Ryzen engineering sample was running at. They're not final, and are likely to be a bit higher at launch. Also, considering the power consumption numbers (looks like they're hitting i9-9900K performance levels in a 75W power envelope, per AnandTech), there definitely is room in the thermal design for more cores.

AMD has Intel cornered at this point. 10nm simply cannot come soon enough for Chipzilla.

That a company one tenth the size of Intel and simultaneously competing with NVIDIA is able to outfox its competition in processor technology is nothing short of a miracle.

That gap in the package is not there for no reason. Indeed, if there were no plans for a second chiplet, that 7nm core chiplet might as well be aligned to the 14nm I/O chiplet, as doing so would make routing of wire traces easier.

(anandtech.com/show/13829/…)

MYGz

2:03 AM

Is there a single process that manages the os orchestration, a single routine that manages all the other subroutines? ntoskernel.exe ( windows)?

rahuldottech

@bertieb @DavidPostill the Satanic Temple is basically just a bunch of be good to others stuff that's called Satanic for the heck of it (the religious/community basically exists to prove through satire why mixing of state and religion is bad)

"Satanism", on the other hand...

s/religious/religion/

@CanadianLuke what I sent: redditgifts.com/gallery/gift/wow-my-secret-santa-awesome-4

rahuldottech

6:06 AM

Whoo. Exam went well

@JourneymanGeek apparently Lucy Liu has an art show in Singapore

djsmiley2k

9:03 AM

@rahuldottech but that's impossible

you were sure of failure

Burgi

9:22 AM

morning

bertieb

11:52 AM

@MichaelFrank This guy gets it!

...a little too well

narrows eyes

rahuldottech

12:25 PM

@djsmiley2k nah not for today. CS exam

Welp going to get a haircut

I hope my usual barber came in today, otherwise I'll have to explain my cut again

bertieb

12:58 PM

@rahuldottech Don't get a fauxhawk if you want to work in finance!

You probably don't want either of those things ;-P

rahuldottech

1:16 PM

@bertieb lol, saw that

I personally hate that haircut

Possibly because I've never actually seen it done right

But every friend or classmate of mine with that cut just looks... So frickin weird

bertieb

@rahuldottech Kids these days, amirite?

djsmiley2k

1:49 PM

@MYGz PID 1?

I do it right

bertieb

Huh

GitHub now does unlimited private repos (according to their pricing dealie)

Limited collaboration

But still

Clever move, Microsoft

(I feel like this was announced a while ago but felt newish to me)

Burgi

2:04 PM

it was announce two whole days ago!?!?! where have you been????? under a rock?

bertieb

2:22 PM

Only two days ago?

Hmm

Maybe I'm confabulating it with something else then

Oh well

rahuldottech

2:59 PM

@bertieb yep. I have a student account which is basically pro+cool offers on some websites

You can get one too, probably

bertieb

@rahuldottech (interested noise) Your ideas are intriguing me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter

Question is, what happens once I'm not a student

Lessee

> Benefit
> Waived transaction fees on first $1000 in revenue processed

Oh man, that would have been so useful... several years ago

Looks like it just lapses

rahuldottech

@bertieb yep.

Burgi

@bertieb if your university has a MS license you can get server software/OS for free

its how i got win7 for free :)

bertieb

@Burgi Good to know, ta

although I must confess I slightly recoiled when my inner monologue said "Microsoft server" :P

Journeyman Geek

what do they call it now?

bertieb

3:11 PM

I know, I know; used widely in enterprise etc

Journeyman Geek

was dreamwidth

bertieb

the LJ fork?

Journeyman Geek

er

dreamspark

Burgi

at my uni it was just just called the microsoft student software portal

Journeyman Geek

previously MSDNAA

djsmiley2k

3:58 PM

Dutch told not to lie on bombs

bertieb

4:47 PM

waffles

When i read that headline, I thought it was another airport security type question

as if a bunch of Dutch folks were saying "yes, we have bombs" to make some point about security

turns out the alternative was just as odd

djsmiley2k

lol

yeah

I mean, i get what the guy was doing

but....... they left him there all night?

Also

> he family of London teenager Jayden Moodie say he was not linked to gangs and was "murdered in cold blood".

Jayden Moodie, 14, was stabbed to death by attackers who knocked him off a moped in Bickley Road on Tuesday in what police believe was a targeted attack.

The teenager had moved from Nottingham to London with his mum six months ago for a "new start".

Ah yes

absolutely no gangs in nottingham, and you'd definately not be moving away from there for a new start because of the gangs and gun crime.

Same way the guy in cov who got shot, wasn't doing anything at all odd

being in a house entirely used for growing cannabis.

because those are a common place to hang out when visiting friends

wasn't at all definately not actin as 'hired security'

/me face palms

bertieb

5:08 PM

Nil nisi bonum

I've stopped adding examples. There's simply too many variations on "folding" or "crossing" arms and almost all of them involve breasts. — Valorum yesterday

djsmiley2k

6:10 PM

;lol

bwDraco

> Update: We spoke with AMD representatives, who confirmed that 300- and 400-series AM4 motherboards can support PCIe 4.0. AMD will not lock the out feature, instead it will be up to motherboard vendors to validate and qualify the faster standard on its motherboards on a case-by-case basis. Motherboard vendors that do support the feature will enable it through BIOS updates, but those updates will come at the discretion of the vendor.

tomshardware.com/news/amd-ryzen-pcie-4.0-motherboard,38401.html

bwDraco

6:57 PM

pcworld.com/article/3332151/android/android-at-ces-2019.html

> [...] Red Magic Mars. Made by Nubia, it features a Snapdragon 845, a 6-inch LCD screen, up to 10GB of RAM, a liquid cooling system, and a 3,800mAh battery [and] two unique features on the case. Near the top you’ll find a pair of customizable touch-sensitive “shoulder” buttons that add extra controls for gamers, and a rear-facing LED strip with 16.8 million color options. And the really cool part? It’s coming to the U.S. and it starts at $399.

rahuldottech

bwDraco

I'm not too sure this is an issue. From early benchmarks, Radeon VII will be a solid contender, but it isn't a clear winner. AMD still has driver optimization and power efficiency to work on. Also, I've heard that not all of Vega's on-chip functionality has actually been enabled...

Also, AMD does have a memory advantage here, in both capacity and bandwidth.

I think AMD will get more sales from gamers than last year, and but power consumption will continue to be an issue and AMD has not able to add any substantial new functionality like ray-tracing cores. While the Vega architecture has certain advantages which can help accelerate compute-heavy workloads (Radeon VII should inherit the enhanced INT8 capability from Radeon Instinct MI60, given that it uses the same underlying GPU), game devs need to specifically optimize for it.

And NVIDIA is much better able to fund developers to use GeForce cards to the fullest than AMD can with their Radeon cards.

So in large part, this is still a money game.

The GeForce RTX 2080 is rated at 215 W, while the Radeon VII is rated at 300W. AMD still needs to work on power efficiency. Given the peak clock frequency (1.8 GHz) and TDP, it is clear that AMD is pushing the TSMC 7nm process as far as it will go.

One upshot of this? Users of Radeon Chill (a Radeon Software feature that intelligently controls frame rates to reduce noise and power usage) will probably see a significant improvement in power efficiency. This is undoubtedly a peak power consumption value; past experience shows that Vega can be very efficient at lower frequencies, and given that this is 7nm, you can probably dramatically reduce power usage with just a slight drop in clock frequency.

Michael Frank

7:27 PM

@bertieb Huh... That sounds like something his editors should have picked up on...

bwDraco

Also, HBM2 uses less power than GDDR6, which would create a further efficiency advantage at lighter loads.

Again, remember that AMD has a process advantage. While their architecture can't fully leverage this advantage, there is no getting around the fact that smaller transistors are inherently more efficient. It's just that AMD has decided to give priority to performance over efficiency.

So if you throttle the GPU, you will see a substantial improvement in efficiency.

All told, this shrinks the gap between AMD and NVIDIA. It does not eliminate the gap. But it's a step in the right direction.

I care more about the prospect of getting 16 cores on a mainstream desktop platform than anything else. The Ryzen 3000 package is clearly designed to allow for a second core chiplet.

Here is Ryzen 3

►

(via reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/aehiyh/…)

djsmiley2k

7:50 PM

@bwDraco sooo in the UK £400. for a portable? HAAAAAAAAHHAHAHAHAA

Michael Frank

Banana for scale with a second banana for backup scale.

Pair Review!

djsmiley2k

:D

that cap

this thing drives the starting of the motor on my tumble drier, and i'm hoping the existing one is dead

because it doesnt' start without me pushing it

bwDraco

@djsmiley2k Search for "motor start capacitor". This is not an uncommon failure mode.

djsmiley2k

Chance of dying. Not hugely unlikely.

yeah

hense the huge cap sitting on my desk

It's around 3 years old, and there's huge temp swings in this room, so I'm not hugely supprised if it has gone

I hope it IS that, because it's at least resonable to replace.

Michael Frank

8:07 PM

3 years from brand new? That's sounds like a case for the Consumer Rights Commission!

djsmiley2k

could be 5 years

i can't remmeber how long we'd be living there when we brought it

that.... started straight up

wow i think i was right

\o/

Michael Frank

> Groot said people should only provide remote access to their computer if they had called the company.

Umm....

No.

djsmiley2k

8:23 PM

And I've just agreed to basically take over most of the IT related to the PTA'#s charity at the school

/me looks at @bertieb

you know you do that charity website?

They uk registered?

I'm just looking, and Cisco offer £1,900's worth of kit, per year

seemingly free to charities

routers, switches, gbics, various AP's

tt-exchange.org/category/donor-partner/cisco

DavidPostill

8:35 PM

@bertieb The only sensible response to that is Wot?

djsmiley2k

I have more upvotes on a answer in physics, than one with lots of math in it!

2

A: Which specific law of physics is broken by the "double jump"?

None as long as you have huge wing like feet which allow you to displace enough air to be lifted (and obviously you weight extremely little compared to your feet size). However the 'laws' are such that they must be followed for an object in our universe, however they only describe how objects ac...

\o/

Michael Frank

8:53 PM

Wooo Ikea is opening up a store here in NZ!

djsmiley2k

9:34 PM

you got Tea2 there?

Canadian Luke

@rahuldottech Awesome job!

Michael Frank

@djsmiley2k in NZ? I think so

Actually, yea we do. I know this because my Mum bought my sister some antique tea pots for Christmas, and my sister bought my mum a brand new T2 pot for Christmas.

djsmiley2k

yah

they always sound nice when they called me on the desk when i used to workj it lol

bertieb

10:01 PM

@djsmiley2k Just back from a meeting, coincidentally!

Will check it out, but I very much doubt we qualify :P

JukEboX

Greetings all

That Brazilian Guy

10:21 PM

@JukEboX Hello!

@rahuldottech You sent them a black cat! \o/

Michael Frank

> An app caused a problem with your default browser, so it was reset to Microsoft Edge

Sure Windows... An "app" caused a problem.

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galmeida

Any sql server guru out there? Trying to run it in debian, but failing

Michael Frank

~Somewhere out there, a guru waits for youuuuu~

That Brazilian Guy

@galmeida straight from the source: docs.microsoft.com/en-us/sql/linux/…

SQL Server 2017 is supported on Red Hat Enterprise Linux (RHEL), SUSE Linux Enterprise Server (SLES), and Ubuntu.

It is also supported as a Docker image, which can run on Docker Engine on Linux or Docker for Windows/Mac.

Ohhhh.... Dockerrrrrr..... * ___ * 5min later @Bob mumbles something about Docker being a fad

Michael Frank

Well that's way more helpful than my poor attempt at changing the lyrics to an American Tail song.

bertieb

10:32 PM

As in the mousey cartoon films?

Michael Frank

@ThatBrazilianGuy Great... Now there's two gurus we need to find. One for SQL and another for Docker... :|

@bertieb yep

galmeida

Thanks 'olavo the carvalho'. I will review this tutorial.. actually I've already installed it and its running.. but I can't connect to it no matter what

bertieb

@MichaelFrank Ahhh, takes me back

That Brazilian Guy

@MichaelFrank I can point you to a guru which name means literally "Drool comes out" in Brazilian Spanish

!!wiki Sai Baba

ChatBot John Cavil

Sai Baba

Sai Baba may refer to: == People == Sai Baba of Shirdi (c. 1838 – 1918) birth name unknown, Indian guru Sathya Sai Baba (1926–2011) born Sathya Narayana Raju, Indian guru == Media == Shirdi Ke Sai Baba, a 1977 Bollywood film Sathya Sai Baba bibliography == Religion == Shirdi Sai Baba movement Sathya Sai Baba movement...

That Brazilian Guy

10:34 PM

Sathya Sai Baba

Sathya Sai Baba (born Sathyanarayana Raju; 23 November 1926 – 24 April 2011) was an Indian guru, a spiritual leader, and philanthropist. He claimed to be the reincarnation of Sai Baba of Shirdi.Sai Baba's purported materialisations of vibhuti (holy ash) and other small objects such as rings, necklaces, and watches, were a source of both fame and controversy. Some have analyzed them as being mere sleight of hand; while his devotees considered them signs of his divinity. Innumerable reports of miraculous healings, resurrection, clairvoyance, bilocation, and alleged omnipotence and omniscience have...

bwDraco

abc7ny.com/… wtf

That Brazilian Guy

If a man in a bunny suit shows up suddenly, run.

bertieb

Unless it's Easter!

Then ask for an egg

Unless it's Richard Gere

That Brazilian Guy

@galmeida You welcome kid. Remember: the earth is flat. pepsi coke is made of fetuses. Nazism is a leftist ideology. Now go forth and prosper!

If you want a minister position just PM me, I have a few left.

galmeida

does olavo support 'flat earth'?

That Brazilian Guy

10:39 PM

Olavo de Carvalho Terra plana 1 Heliocentrismo o maior engano da humanidade

►

I didn't have the stomach to watch it, sorry.

bertieb

Flat Earth?

(since we're on Brazilians)

Bob

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That Brazilian Guy

"Buy a Josehph"?

JukEboX

I do believe I have just stumped google

bwDraco

11:42 PM

So..... day 1 of Chinese New Year is February 5. I'll be gearing up for the Comprehensive Cleanup in the coming days.

well.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/01/26/…

This time around, I'm not waiting until the last day. While my road test is scheduled for the end of January, I'll try to do as much cleaning as possible both before then and in the first days of February.

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