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Duga
Duga
12:00 AM
RELOAD!
[rubberduck-vba/Rubberduck] 11 commits. 9 opened issues. 3 closed issues. 49 issue comments. 3400 additions. 1511 deletions.
 
Mathieu Guindon
Mathieu Guindon
12:13 AM
@Duga that's our Spanish translator!
 
Comintern
Comintern
Woot!
 
Mathieu Guindon
Mathieu Guindon
@erigoni Once all your commits are pushed, you can open a new pull request to get your changes merged into the main repository's 'next' branch - and then poof, Rubberduck habla Español!
Tweeted by rubberduckvba on September 1, 2018 at 12:11 AM in reply to rubberduckvba
 
Vogel612
Vogel612
@MathieuGuindon not quite.... somebody will have to add it to the settings
;)
 
Comintern
Comintern
@IvenBach can do that. I sniped him last time.
 
mansellan
mansellan
Hola @erigoni :-)
 
Mathieu Guindon
Mathieu Guindon
12:32 AM
@Vogel612 right
 
Duga
Duga
> TBH I didn't even know that the WP site had docs, I thought it was just the blog.

Agree that we should consolidate, even to go as far as to say that WP should disappear... IMO there should be an authoritative RD site (rubberduckvba.com) which should host an intro, news, the blog, user instructions, a quick and direct link to the latest green release (not a link to GH, go find it yourself), and links to the GH repo and wiki (for contribution docs).

Ideally, with well-known and reliable do
> TBH I didn't even know that the WP site had docs, I thought it was just the blog.

Agree that we should consolidate, even to go as far as to say that WP should disappear... IMO there should be an authoritative RD site (rubberduckvba.com) which should host an intro, news, the blog, user instructions, a quick and direct link to the latest green release (not a link to GH, go find it yourself), and links to the GH repo and wiki (for technical and contribution docs).

Ideally, with well-known a
 
Comintern
Comintern
@MathieuGuindon I see the problem in KeyPressEventArgs. I didn't realize you were handling WM_CHAR too.
WM_CHAR doesn't give a VKEY, so you can't cast it to Forms.Keys.
 
mansellan
mansellan
12:55 AM
I'm wondering if we should have a new tag ([parity]?) which would indicate that a particular feature is needed to reach feature-parity with an existing VBE feature. I'm currently (mildly?) obsessed with Code Explorer, looking to get to the point where users feel no need to keep PE open as CE does everything it does but better.
#AmINuts?
 
Mathieu Guindon
Mathieu Guindon
@Comintern huh, but I thought I was handling that.. 
        if (character == default(char))
        {
            Key = (Keys)wParam;
            if ((User32.GetKeyState(VirtualKeyStates.VK_CONTROL) & 0x8000) != 0)
            {
                Key |= Keys.Control;
            }
        }
        else
        {
            IsCharacter = true;
        }
obviously that's not working though
 
Comintern
Comintern
I think I may have mis-read that.
Which is the key that is getting ghosted?
 
Mathieu Guindon
Mathieu Guindon
m / {enter}
 
Comintern
Comintern
It's also possible that the cast to char is the issue.
 
Mathieu Guindon
Mathieu Guindon
hm
 
Comintern
Comintern
1:02 AM
If we don't need any of the non Keys information, it should probably just go through VkKeyScanExA and then cast to Keys.
^ That's the locale aware conversion.
 
Mathieu Guindon
Mathieu Guindon
oh
 
Comintern
Comintern
Actually I think we want the wide version.
Should probably use the Keys explicitly as flags too - can't they have multiple modifiers set?
 
mansellan
mansellan
@MathieuGuindon do you have time / inclination to port Battleships to VB6? If not, do you mind if I do so when the source is posted? Would love for it to be a showcase for #4099 - it could be the first ever project on GH to implement CI with unit tests, courtesy of RD...
 
Mathieu Guindon
Mathieu Guindon
1:17 AM
@mansellan I was planning to create a repo for it under \rubberduck-vba\battleship ;-)
 
mansellan
mansellan
so... you wanna port it or should I?
 
Mathieu Guindon
Mathieu Guindon
I think it's already ported ;-)
you just don't use a WorksheetView
 
mansellan
mansellan
:-)
 
Mathieu Guindon
Mathieu Guindon
...or a UserFormView
 
mansellan
mansellan
MDIForm ? :-)
 
Mathieu Guindon
Mathieu Guindon
1:19 AM
yeah why not
or a console
 
mansellan
mansellan
yeah.... VbForums has lots of howtos on how to do VB6 console apps. It's crying out for some RD!
RD - making VB[A|6] what it should have been by now.
 
Mathieu Guindon
Mathieu Guindon
the VBE anyway :)
 
mansellan
mansellan
/sidenote - GH needs more VBA and more VB6...
 
Duga
Duga
> AIUI (and @retailcoder can correct me), the RD site isn't exactly the easiest thing to manage, which is why WP site has gotten more updates. RD site isn't a LAMP which kind of hinders the idea of installing Wordpress on it. (It can be on Windows but do you really want to run Wordpress on Windows?!? Huh uh. Didn't think so...)

One thing bears calling out is that the GH's wiki can be used like a 2nd repo and thus can be used via the git workflow. Some one solved the problem of transferring t
 
Comintern
Comintern
@mansellan I put do a VB6 ncurses port for it if you really want...
 
this
this
1:30 AM
@Comintern why stop there? Include recurse, too.
 
Comintern
Comintern
Maybe I'll just curse.
Should this have backspace in it? 
        case WM.CHAR:
            var c = (char) wParam;
            if (c != '\r' && c != '\n' && c != '\t')
            {
                args = new KeyPressEventArgs(hWnd, wParam, lParam, true);
                OnKeyDown(args);
                if (args.Handled) { return 0; }
            }
            break;
 
mansellan
mansellan
googles ncurses ahh... a linux thing. yeah, I should probably grok that sometime...
;-)
 
Mathieu Guindon
Mathieu Guindon
@Comintern backspace doesn't give us a WM_CHAR though
 
Comintern
Comintern
@mansellan Pretty sure it's not Windows only.
 
this
this
@Comintern I would very much prefer to not have any backspaces in me, thank you very much.
 
Comintern
Comintern
1:32 AM
@MathieuGuindon Hmmm... I could have sworn it did.
 
mansellan
mansellan
#grokfail
#embarrassed
#googling
 
Comintern
Comintern
Does ctrl-H backspace?
That's what the WM_KEYDOWN would be if it were cast to char
 
this
this
pretty sure that's a console thing.
 
Mathieu Guindon
Mathieu Guindon
fml
> my god, it's full of messages
 
Comintern
Comintern
lol
VBE catches ctrl-h first.
 
this
this
1:34 AM
so it is ctrl-h even in non-console context? #TIL
 
Comintern
Comintern
OK, F6 and see if that sorts it.
Do we care if this is case insensitive?
 
Mathieu Guindon
Mathieu Guindon
I think not
 
Comintern
Comintern
Ok
 
Hosch250
Hosch250
@MathieuGuindon It's for the Office team, several positions, although the one he pointed me at was for Outlook.
I have a call at 6PM my time with him next Tuesday.
(Monday is a national holiday.)
So, long weekend, then a chat Tuesday, and maybe a formal interview on the 13th.
 
Mathieu Guindon
Mathieu Guindon
nice!
 
this
this
1:50 AM
gool duck, @Hosch250!
7
 
Hosch250
Hosch250
Thanks.
 
mansellan
mansellan
@Hosch250 wow, what @this said!
 
Comintern
Comintern
2:22 AM
Alright, it's a bit trickier. If RD doesn't handle the WM_KEYDOWN, the VBE is calling TranslateMessage. That's what generates the WM_CHAR message that follows. So, when we do this: 
    Key = (Keys)wParam;
    if ((User32.GetKeyState(VirtualKeyStates.VK_CONTROL) & 0x8000) != 0)
    {
        Key |= Keys.Control;
    }
RD is processing the same keystroke twice.
m | ctrl is 0x0D, which is [Enter].
Is the only think we care about in the keydown [Ctrl]?
 
Duga
Duga
2:49 AM
> Love the idea of using xml docs to drive site MD (duck check: is this SandCastle for 2018?). But how does this solve for blogging?
 
Mathieu Guindon
Mathieu Guindon
3:19 AM
I guess it would be idiomatic, yeah. IMO default members are a language trap though: code isn't just written to be executed; it's mostly written to be read, and default members abstracts away the syntax rather than the idea. This can easily makes the reader miss what's going on... the code says one thing, and does another behind your back -- unless you know the API and you're familiar with it now.. If only there was a VBIDE add-in that could warn you about implicit member access! A good chunk of VBA questions on SO are asked because of them, and solved with explicit member access ;-) — Mathieu Guindon 17 secs ago
 
Duga
Duga
> I guess on this thread of blog thought/conversation we could consider blogging containing modular behaviour in yaml files put together (built as depend after successfully done XML-doc) by sections of generated HTML of content interest. For examples/ideas...
https://help.github.com/articles/using-jekyll-as-a-static-site-generator-with-github-pages/
I have followed someone’s setup to make my test webpage ending with *.GitHub.io I’m considering blogging soon.
> I guess on this thread of blog thought/conversation we could consider blogging containing modular behaviour in yaml Jekyll behaviour works with yaml files put together (built as depend after successfully done XML-doc) by sections of generated HTML of content interest. For examples/ideas...
https://help.github.com/articles/using-jekyll-as-a-static-site-generator-with-github-pages/
I have followed someone’s setup to make my test webpage ending with *.GitHub.io I’m considering blogging soon.
 
mansellan
mansellan
@Duga uhm... ima just sayit. R U a markov???
@PeterMTaylor R U real, or is this some kinda research ting?
'cause if not, uh, you're sounding like a bot...
 
Duga
Duga
3:43 AM
> Um, yeah, Thanks for that, Anything else?
 
mansellan
mansellan
ohai @PeterMTaylor! RU human?
 
Peter M Taylor
Peter M Taylor
I am very much a human being aware of its own flaws. :)
 
mansellan
mansellan
your comments are very odd. care to comment?
^^
 
Peter M Taylor
Peter M Taylor
its the question of asking me that I am human.
 
mansellan
mansellan
that's a very markov thing to say. what is the average flight speed of an unladen swallow?
...
df?
 
Peter M Taylor
Peter M Taylor
3:51 AM
Anyhow petermtaylor.github.io this is one example of my website using ya l files put together
 
mansellan
mansellan
uh, yeah, thanks for that, MODS!!!!
@MathieuGuindon do you know @PeterMTaylor? Almost certainly a bot, kick.
 
Mathieu Guindon
Mathieu Guindon
@mansellan ?
 
Peter M Taylor
Peter M Taylor
uh ? Am I rude?
 
mansellan
mansellan
Is PT real?
 
Mathieu Guindon
Mathieu Guindon
he's been around since (almost) the beginning, watching our progress and encouraging RD!
 
mansellan
mansellan
3:54 AM
eek
 
Peter M Taylor
Peter M Taylor
Yes its my real name
 
mansellan
mansellan
language fail on my part then - sinccere apologies.... you sounded like a markov chain, but that's my fail!
cannot apologise enough...
 
Peter M Taylor
Peter M Taylor
Often my thoughts and written words aren’t clear at times I’m sure others often find its the case but I improve myself when I can...
 
mansellan
mansellan
@PeterMTaylor I apologise, I had trouble interpreting your posts, but that's on me. Please forgive me.
 
Peter M Taylor
Peter M Taylor
Forgiven mate :) perhaps suggest which parts of my post would make more sense so I could clarify.
 
mansellan
mansellan
4:08 AM
no, sorry - just an instinct - I write bots and chains at work, but I appreciate that language gaps can emulate AI. Like I say, my bad.
 
Duga
Duga
4:33 AM
redacted
redacted
 
mansellan
mansellan
jesus, actual, christ. I put together an email, and it turned up in SE. Why? I'm about to give up.
Oh, and just for giggles, I can't delete it. Thanks, internet.
you know what, I'll get my coat.
bye.
 
ThunderFrame
ThunderFrame
4:54 AM
Are any of us real? Solipsism be damned.
@mansellan Peter M Taylor is very much real. He's from a future where pucntuation is superfluous.
Me, I'm from a future where spelling is superfluous.
 
Peter M Taylor
Peter M Taylor
5:22 AM
@ThunderFrame :)
 
Mathieu Guindon
Mathieu Guindon
5:56 AM
@Duga oh, wow
 
Quack Exchange
Quack Exchange
0
Q: Battleship UI: GameSheet

Mathieu GuindonIn the previous post I presented the MVC architecture, but all we saw of the View was the pretty bits. From the outside everything looks innocently pretty: The guts of the worksheet's code-behind is a bit more... chaotic. Maybe not chaotic-evil, but chaotic nonetheless, despite the fact that i...

object-oriented vba excel
 
QHarr
QHarr
Is there any difference performance wise between
Public Sub Foo()
Dim ws As Worksheet
Set ws = ThisWorkbook.Worksheets("Sheet1")
With ws
Debug.Print .Cells(1, 1).Address
Debug.Print .Parent.Name
End With
End Sub

Public Sub Bar()
Dim ws As Worksheet
Set ws = ThisWorkbook.Worksheets("Sheet1")
Debug.Print ws.Cells(1, 1).Address
Debug.Print ws.Parent.Name
End Sub
I.e. use . within a With versus repeating the variable ws?
I didn't think so
But wanted to ask
I prefer With notation aesthetically
 
Mathieu Guindon
Mathieu Guindon
6:12 AM
With blocks hold an object reference, but the dereferencing happens with the dot operator, which needs to be there for every member call anyway - so in this case it's the equivalent. However without ws there'd technically be a micro-perf difference, since you wouldn't be holding on to the reference anymore, i.e. repeatedly fetching the sheet from ThisWorkbook.Worksheets vs using a local variable; if the sheet exists at compile time IMO it's best to use With {codename} though ;-)
TTGTB
 
QHarr
QHarr
Sorry just digesting and now googling
"TTGTB" on intermittent internet connection.
Gah!
ah. Night. Thanks.
With codename .... I rarely see that being used. Interesting.
 
ThunderFrame
ThunderFrame
6:28 AM
@QHarr Use a meaningful codename, like settings instead of Sheet1, and then your code is resilient to users changing the name and/or position of the sheet.
 
QHarr
QHarr
@ThunderFrame Thanks. Ah... I'm still digesting Matt's last point.
With . notation there is de-referencing and then "something" has to go back out to the worksheets collection to collection the sheet referenced in the With?
something = compiler?
 
ThunderFrame
ThunderFrame
@QHarr With settings 'settings is the codename of the settings sheet
 
QHarr
QHarr
I understand that. I meant penultimate point. Sorry.
"However without ws there'd technically be a micro-perf difference, since you wouldn't be holding on to the reference anymore, i.e. repeatedly fetching the sheet from ThisWorkbook.Worksheets vs using a local variable"
 
ThunderFrame
ThunderFrame
@QHarr it's all about minimizing the objects that need to be "processed" by the vbruntime. If you use ThisProject.ThisWorkbook.Sheets(1).Cells(1,1).Value, then the runtime has to find your value by going via ThisProject.ThisWorkbook.Sheets(1) every time, whereas, settings.Cells(1,1).Value is more direct.
 
QHarr
QHarr
Ok. And if I have a local variable like ws (worksheet) and use a With statement i.e. With ws, that has to go back out to the worksheets collection each time . notation is used within?
Oh...oops...
So is settings.Cells(1,1).Value more direct than ws.Cells(1,1) ?
Sorry....I know I can be slow on the pick-up.
 
ThunderFrame
ThunderFrame
6:39 AM
@QHarr no, once you have a worksheet reference (and the worksheet codename gives you one for free), and you're working with its members, you never need to know about the worksheets collection.
@QHarr It depends™.
 
QHarr
QHarr
The classic IT answer.
:-)
I'm still chewing on the line: "However without ws there'd technically be a micro-perf difference, since you wouldn't be holding on to the reference anymore, i.e. repeatedly fetching the sheet from ThisWorkbook.Worksheets vs using a local variable"
So a With ws statement using . operator inside
Is that having to go to worksheet collection due to de-referencing?
 
ThunderFrame
ThunderFrame
ws.Cells(1,1) is calling the default member which is _Default which, behind the scenes, is normally calling ws.Cells(1,1).Value. Most of the time (99.99% of the time), you probably want ws.Cells(1,1).Value2
 
QHarr
QHarr
@ThunderFrame Understood.
 
ThunderFrame
ThunderFrame
@QHarr NO, NO, NO. Once you have a reference, you have a reference. the ws doesn't know or care that is part of a collection
 
QHarr
QHarr
Which makes sense. So what am I failing to understand in Matt's sentence? :-(
Not sure that is an easy question to answer btw!
 
ThunderFrame
ThunderFrame
6:44 AM
the compiler only knows that ws is a Worksheet, and that any and all . members are merely members of that type.
 
QHarr
QHarr
k
 
ThunderFrame
ThunderFrame
@QHarr I'm not sure I understand your question
 
QHarr
QHarr
When Matt refers to "repeatedly fetching the sheet from ThisWorkbook.Worksheets"
 
ThunderFrame
ThunderFrame
ws.foo is equivalent to With ws: .foo: End With
 
QHarr
QHarr
Ok fine.
That all makes sense. So the de-referencing doesn't go to worksheets collection, it just decouples and recouples (made up!) with the object reference held in the With ws.
 
ThunderFrame
ThunderFrame
6:48 AM
@QHarr Imagine you're in a Library, and I tell you to go find a book: Library.Building(6).Floor(3).Aisle(7).Shelf(4).Book(4). And now imagine I tell you to go and get Library.Building(6).Floor(3).Aisle(7).Shelf(4).Book(5) and then Library.Building(6).Floor(3).Aisle(7).Shelf(4).Book(6)
 
QHarr
QHarr
k
 
ThunderFrame
ThunderFrame
that's a lot of going back to the start each time
 
QHarr
QHarr
yup
 
ThunderFrame
ThunderFrame
now, imagine I tell you: Dim myShelf As Shelf: Set Shelf = Library.Building(6).Floor(3).Aisle(7).Shelf(4)
 
QHarr
QHarr
k
 
ThunderFrame
ThunderFrame
6:51 AM
now, I ask you for myShelf.Book(4), myShelf.Book(5), and myShelf.Book(6) - You don't need to go back to the start each time, you just magically goto ``myShelf` and pull a book
 
QHarr
QHarr
indeed
 
ThunderFrame
ThunderFrame
same applies to With myShelf : Debug.Print .Book(4), .Book(5), .Book(6): End With
 
QHarr
QHarr
Aha...
💡
Thank you very much
That is what I initially assumed.
 
ThunderFrame
ThunderFrame
the reference is like a wormhole from the front door of the library to the specific shelf... You just need to Set the path once, and the reference will always give you the shortcut.
 
QHarr
QHarr
I think of With as a context manager
 
ThunderFrame
ThunderFrame
6:58 AM
With should be thought of as being exactly equivalent to:
 
QHarr
QHarr
Thanks to you both for your time
 
ThunderFrame
ThunderFrame
Dim myTemporaryVariableOfTypeReturnedByTheAssignment
Set myTemporaryVariableOfTypeReturnedByTheAssignment = myWorksheet 'myTemporaryVariableOfTypeReturnedByTheAssignment is now a Worksheet
'Do things with members of myTemporaryVariableOfTypeReturnedByTheAssignment
Set myTemporaryVariableOfTypeReturnedByTheAssignment = Nothing
FreeTheMemoryUsedBy myTemporaryVariableOfTypeReturnedByTheAssignment 'FreeTheMemoryUsedBy is a hidden VBA operation, the name of which I have just made up
that is, A With block does two things. It creates an invisible variable that (unlike any other variable) only exists until the End With statement is executed, and it allows the . notation without explicitly requiring the reference variable to be placed before it.
 
QHarr
QHarr
Thank you
 
ThunderFrame
ThunderFrame
in extreme scenarios, a With block frees the memory when it hits the End With statement, as opposed to the end of the scope in which the variable is defined (which might be outside of the current procedure). Freeing that memory as early as possible, might be beneficial, in certain situations.
but most people just use With blocks, because it reduces typing.
 
 
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Simon Forsberg
Simon Forsberg
12:49 PM
in The 2nd Monitor, 7 hours ago, by Captain Obvious
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Q: Battleship UI: GameSheet

Mathieu GuindonIn the previous post I presented the MVC architecture, but all we saw of the View was the pretty bits. From the outside everything looks innocently pretty: The guts of the worksheet's code-behind is a bit more... chaotic. Maybe not chaotic-evil, but chaotic nonetheless, despite the fact that i...

object-oriented vba excel
Is there anything you can't do in VBA, @MathieuGuindon?
I'm just shaking my head...
 
ThunderFrame
ThunderFrame
1:07 PM
@SimonForsberg shaking of the head would be a "No" then? Let's set @MathieuGuindon a real challenge, and get him to reproduce the Diamond Problem in VBA.... Now that would be a feat.
 
Vogel612
Vogel612
isn't that actually impossible?
can't inherit from implemented interfaces, right?
 
M.Doerner
M.Doerner
Yep, it is impossible: VBA does not support implentation inheritance and all interface implementations have to specify the interface explitly. Moreover, you cannot extend interfaces in VBA.
 
this
this
2:18 PM
I think that was the joke - for him to do it would be hard.
 
IvenBach
IvenBach
2:37 PM
@Comintern sniper who?
d
 
Comintern
Comintern
@IvenBach Referring to adding the Czech translation to settings. ;-)
 
ThunderFrame
ThunderFrame
@this yep, There's a limit to how much OOP @MathieuGuindon can squeeze out of VBA.
 
IvenBach
IvenBach
Now I grok. Time for some roofing. Gravity will not get the best of me.
 
ThunderFrame
ThunderFrame
@IvenBach groking and roofing do not belong in the same sentence. If you're groking and roofing, I'm guessing gravity will get the better of you.
 
Comintern
Comintern
I've found groking gravity is a much better strategy for staying on the roof.
 
this
this
2:52 PM
@IvenBach Maybe consider a harness?
Then it can't get best of you
@ThunderFrame Well, if he writes enough boilerplate code, it could be done. Look at Joel's Wasabi. Of course Jeff had some thoughts about it.
 
ThunderFrame
ThunderFrame
@this yeah, I suppose I ought to add the condition that a class can't have an Inherits member, or some such tomfoolery.
reminds self, that CR VBA StringBuilder question needs a review.
 
this
this
3:09 PM
@ThunderFrame Easy. Write a VBExtender C(whatever) library. Reference it, then hey, VBA now supports interface implementation!
 
ThunderFrame
ThunderFrame
3:20 PM
@this inject an AvalonEdit window with support for C++ and hey presto, Diamond Problem in the VBE.
 
this
this
Microsoft, this dialog is screaming, "WE WUZ TOO LAZ TO FIX IT"
and you thought you're so clever, deleting all the auto-recovered files, don't you?
 
IvenBach
IvenBach
3:37 PM
@this I harness the power of “hold my beer” to prove I don’t need a harness.
Think before acting and that avoids most of problems.
 
this
this
@IvenBach so, by the power of beerskull, then?
 
Mathieu Guindon
Mathieu Guindon
4:13 PM
@SimonForsberg reading that 'you' as an impersonal pronoun makes me want to reply 'nope, and I'll blog about it until every programmer knows VBA is OOP and as much of a "real language" as any other!' ...reading 'you' as referring to me I'd say yeah.. refactoring that damn controller to support different game modes!
Still, thanks!
 
Simon Forsberg
Simon Forsberg
@MathieuGuindon yeah, I was referring to me, or you, or... whatever.
 
Mathieu Guindon
Mathieu Guindon
:+1:
"A" in BASIC stands for 'all-purpose' =)
 
Comintern
Comintern
4:28 PM
Version 2 will allow division by zero, prove the Grand Riemann hypothesis, while demonstrating that P = NP and emitting a steady stream of Higgs Bosons from cell A1.
 
this
this
@Comintern HHCIB?
 
Comintern
Comintern
IKR?
 
Duga
Duga
4:46 PM
> Something we could toss around is the idea of using GH-Pages to segregate external documentation from internal documentation. That way the internals can be documented in the wiki and the user docs can go to rubberduck-vba.github.io/docs
Added PSET, SCALE and CIRCLE tokens to the statementKeyword parser rule

These were forgotten to add there when the tokens were introduced.
Adapted tests for circleSpecialForm to not test the most evil version

The most evil version is extremely hard to parse with a context free parser.
[rubberduck-vba/Rubberduck] MDoerner pushed commit 33de5fc1 to next: Reverted circleSpecialForm parser rule change and ordering in mainBlockStmt
[rubberduck-vba/Rubberduck] MDoerner pushed commit b4e967ba to next: Merge branch 'next' into GrammarKeywordFix
Merge pull request #4332 from MDoerner/GrammarKeywordFix

Grammar keyword fix
 
IvenBach
IvenBach
@this :+1:
 
Duga
Duga
> > But how does this solve for blogging?

It doesn't - as mentioned it's mainly useful for internal developer's documentation. User documentation likely needs to be maintained separately anyway since the categorization will be quite different when looking at the ducky as a user vs. as a developer.

If we can have both user documentation and blogging maintained by same software, that would be a win in the maintainability. Whether there's a software that supports all features typically neede
 
IvenBach
IvenBach
Roofing is like software. Don’t be cheap and put a facade over the old shit to save time and money. It’ll end up costing you. #ThanksGrandma...
 
Duga
Duga
[rubberduck-vba/Rubberduck] build for commit 6969d727 on next: AppVeyor build succeeded
 
Mathieu Guindon
Mathieu Guindon
5:14 PM
@Comintern LOL!
 
Mathieu Guindon
Mathieu Guindon
5:40 PM
I'm surprised AI vs AI actually plays to completion: every move deepens the call stack, I need to fix that with a proper game loop...
 
Mathieu Guindon
Mathieu Guindon
5:59 PM
@rubberduckvba I can provide translation in Bulgarian ☺
Tweeted by vitoshacademy on September 1, 2018 at 9:59 AM in reply to rubberduckvba
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Duga
Duga
[rubberduck-vba/Rubberduck] build for commit b0d47104 on unknown branch: AppVeyor build succeeded
 
Duga
Duga
6:33 PM
> Sorry this stayed in WIP status for so long. Introducing the LetCoerce class (a good thing I think) resulted in a significant re-evaluation of how errors/invalid tokens were handled. The result was an approach that supports parsing operations to throw exceptions rather than hiding them all behind the 'TryParse' type functions. Somewhat unexpected, the changes allowed the inspection to now flag compilable runtime errors (Mismatch and Overflow) that are lurking within the code (within Selec
 
 
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Duga
Duga
10:31 PM
> # [Codecov](https://codecov.io/gh/rubberduck-vba/Rubberduck/pull/4127?src=pr&el=h1) Report
> Merging [#4127](https://codecov.io/gh/rubberduck-vba/Rubberduck/pull/4127?src=pr&el=desc) into [next](https://codecov.io/gh/rubberduck-vba/Rubberduck/commit/6969d727da85939844f9168c0da5ceafd28f9f09?src=pr&el=desc) will **increase** coverage by `0.98%`.
> The diff coverage is `92.03%`.


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[rubberduck-vba/Rubberduck] build for commit b0d47104 on unknown branch: 53.91% (target 0%)
 
Mathieu Guindon
Mathieu Guindon
11:11 PM
#Freebies Battleship bugs found in the CR posts: 1) AI vs AI deepens call stack at every turn (fixed now); 2) controller somehow assumes player1 is the human (on it); 3) extending RandomAI to destroy acquired targets after it found all enemy ships, enters infinite loop if there are gaps in an area (fixed now)
 
Hosch250
Hosch250
@MathieuGuindon I've hit that a few times now in different projects :)
@MathieuGuindon You've got a Spanish offer too :)
 
Mathieu Guindon
Mathieu Guindon
11:26 PM
@Hosch250 the fix I did is pretty simple: just explicitly handle AI vs AI scenario
Perhaps a bit naive, but AI being imperative and human being event-driven makes it hard to have one logic to handle all scenarios
 

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