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Paulo Cereda

9:13 AM

arara 4.0 hit TL!

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Cup Fever

9:30 AM

hi pal

Paulo Cereda

Hi mr. WC bloke! o/

Cup Fever

(")>_/

Paulo Cereda

9:51 AM

How are you, mr. WC?

CarLaTeX

@PauloCereda Yay! You've finished a lot of things this year :):):)

Paulo Cereda

@CarLaTeX <3

egreg

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arara 4.0 (revision 1)
Copyright (c) 2012-2018, Paulo Roberto Massa Cereda
All rights reserved

usage: arara [file [--dry-run] [--log] [--verbose | --silent] [--timeout
             N] [--max-loops N] [--language L] [ --preamble P ] [--header]
             | --help | --version]
 -h,--help                 print the help message
 -H,--header               extract directives only in the file header

Paulo Cereda

@egreg YAY

% arara: pdftex if showOptions(2, 'Hey!', 'Who deserves the tick?',
% arara: --> 'Enrico', 'David') == 1
Hello world.
\bye

@egreg ^^

Ulrike Fischer

10:07 AM

@PauloCereda and tikzmarmots too ... what a good day ;-)

Paulo Cereda

@UlrikeFischer wooo

@UlrikeFischer this is a great day!

David Carlisle

10:20 AM

@PauloCereda introduce your own bugs then earn arara rep by asking your own questions, great plan! (@egreg has only ever managed the first part:-)

egreg

@PauloCereda I think that adding the “official rules” in the bookmarks would be a bonus. I also feel that they aren't so well distinguished from each other in the text.

Paulo Cereda

@DavidCarlisle oi

@egreg Thanks, noted. I plan to update it more frequently, specially the docs. :)

David Carlisle

Jan 12 '16 at 12:15, by David Carlisle

@PauloCereda finished your thesis?

Paulo Cereda

@DavidCarlisle oh no

@egreg I thought of a method index too

An anonymous reader shares a report: Malware has been discovered in at least three Arch Linux packages available on AUR (Arch User Repository), the official Arch Linux repository of user-submitted packages. The malicious code has been removed thanks to the quick intervention of the AUR team. The incident happened because AUR allows anyone to take over "orphaned" repositories that have been abandoned by their original authors.

@egreg ^^ :D

@DavidCarlisle I wonder if I can have a badge of my own tool...

David Carlisle

[ 5/56, 00:27/02:04] update: arara [6131k] (45517 -> 48183) ... done

@PauloCereda ^^

Paulo Cereda

10:35 AM

@DavidCarlisle <3

David Carlisle

$ arara --help
Error: Unable to access jarfile /usr/local/texlive/2018/texmf-dist/scripts/arara/arara.jar

@PauloCereda ^^^

Paulo Cereda

@DavidCarlisle </3

@DavidCarlisle Shouldn't you wait for the update to finish? :)

David Carlisle

@PauloCereda I did:-)

Paulo Cereda

@DavidCarlisle Oh my

The .jar file should be in that location!

David Carlisle

@PauloCereda define "that location" (for cygwin)

Paulo Cereda

10:37 AM

@David: could you ls /usr/local/texlive/2018/texmf-dist/scripts/arara/, please?

@DavidCarlisle Ah good point. :)

David Carlisle

$ find /usr/local/texlive/2018/ -name arara.jar
/usr/local/texlive/2018/texmf-dist/scripts/arara/arara.jar

Paulo Cereda

@DavidCarlisle Ah it's there. I need to check the Cygwin path thingy...

Ah found what to do.

David Carlisle

@PauloCereda apply cygpath -w to $jarpath probably....

Paulo Cereda

kernel=`uname -s`
if test "${kernel#*CYGWIN}" != "$kernel"
then
 jarpath=`cygpath -w $(kpsewhich --progname=bib2gls --format=texmfscripts bib2gls.jar)`
else
 jarpath=`kpsewhich --progname=bib2gls --format=texmfscripts bib2gls.jar`
fi

@DavidCarlisle ^^ from Nicola's tools.

David Carlisle

As I said, cygpath -w :-)

Paulo Cereda

10:41 AM

@DavidCarlisle :)

David Carlisle

@PauloCereda I'm not sure why there isn't a cygwin java, but there wasn't last time I checked. If one appears then you'd need to somehow check whether a native windows java was being used or a cygwin one

Paulo Cereda

@DavidCarlisle indeed...

David Carlisle

@PauloCereda or convert it all to ~~emacs lisp~~ lua to avoid such problems

Paulo Cereda

@DavidCarlisle ooh paradigm shift

@DavidCarlisle does this mean you are keen on porting emacs to Lua? :)

David Carlisle

@PauloCereda no I just offered you my second choice as I didn't think you'd like my preferred option:-)

Paulo Cereda

10:48 AM

@DavidCarlisle My thesis examples are in Lua. :)

David Carlisle

@PauloCereda mythical objects

@PauloCereda mine were in pascal

Paulo Cereda

@DavidCarlisle Oh Wirth is a genius

@DavidCarlisle Pascal was great

Paulo Cereda

11:03 AM

@samcarter: vvv

@paulocereda Please can we have tikzraccoons, soon?

Tweeted by orelhoes on July 11, 2018 at 10:42 AM in reply to paulocereda

Torbjørn T.

11:19 AM

@PauloCereda Might as well make a tikzzoo right away.

Paulo Cereda

11:43 AM

@TorbjørnT. ooh :)

Paulo Cereda

11:58 AM

@DavidCarlisle I will break more stuff and providing fixes to harvest rep! :)

marmot

12:19 PM

@PauloCereda As long you make sure not to delay the arrival of @samcarter's tikzmarmots package I don't see any problem with that ;-)

Paulo Cereda

@marmot ooh marmot conflicts

samcarter

1:04 PM

@marmot The marmots can't be delayed, they are on ctan since yesterday :) [at least they are on the mirrors, the main site seems to have some problems]

@PauloCereda oh! Somehow I fear there will be many more suggestions for other animals :)

Paulo Cereda

@samcarter <3

@samcarter I had a crazy idea! Expect an email from me soon. :)

marmot

1:38 PM

@samcarter WOW! Can't wait to seem them! May I ask what the link is? ;-)

Paulo Cereda

@marmot ^^ :)

samcarter

@marmot try mirror.ctan.org/graphics/pgf/contrib/tikzmarmots

@marmot ^^ from the documentation :)

marmot

1:58 PM

@samcarter Thanks for releasing the marmots! ;-) ;-) ;-)

samcarter

2:25 PM

@marmot Just teach them how to use \marmot within a pgf for loop and the endagering problem is solved :)

marmot

@samcarter Not fully convinced ;-)

marmot

2:39 PM

@samcarter Could you perhaps consider writing "Inspired by the enthusiasms of the TeX.Stackexchange user @marmot for <s>animals</s> beings of the same species, this little package can draw marmots using TikZ." ;-)

AlexG

3:45 PM

@PauloCereda cat-version? Are marmots a kind of cats?

Paulo Cereda

@AlexG ooh

David Carlisle

4:13 PM

@marmot @samcarter wouldn't it be better without the tikz?

\documentclass{article}

\begin{document}

\begin{picture}(100,100)
  \put(50,50){\oval(50,80){}}
  \put(35,42){\oval(10,15){}}
  \put(65,42){\oval(10,15){}}
  \put(40,75){\circle*{5}}
  \put(60,75){\circle*{5}}
  \put(50,65){\circle*{10}}
  \qbezier(40,60)(50,50)(60,60)
\end{picture}

\end{document}

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samcarter

@marmot done! github.com/samcarter8/tikzmarmots/commit/…

@DavidCarlisle Much better! The picture-mode marmots could even use your famous plane!

@marmot I noticed your new avatar :) But please remove the line with \node[font=\sffamily] at (1,-0.4) {\textcopyright\ @samcarter};. The image was created by you and not by whoever wrote the package.

@DavidCarlisle I wonder why we did not yet see any marmot pizza images - is google letting you down?

David Carlisle

@samcarter yelp.co.uk/biz_photos/…

Ulrike Fischer

@samcarter ^^^^first hit

David Carlisle

Paulo Cereda

4:33 PM

@DavidCarlisle HOLY COW

marmot

@DavidCarlisle See. No pineapple!

@samcarter Please remind me in 30 days ;-)

marmot

5:55 PM

@UlrikeFischer That's a groundhog!

Ulrike Fischer

goal

Paulo Cereda

ooh

Can we do a diff between PDF's? The TL question about the arara manual is quite tricky!

Ulrike Fischer

@PauloCereda which question?

Paulo Cereda

@UlrikeFischer In the TL mailing list.

@UlrikeFischer the PDF fails with Reader 9.5.5 Linux (some pages).

Ulrike Fischer

6:11 PM

@PauloCereda where is the manuel in the texmf?

@PauloCereda found it.

Paulo Cereda

texmf-dist/doc/support/arara

Oh.

:)

Ulrike Fischer

@PauloCereda preflight of adobe doesn't show any syntax problem. Can you identify a problematic page and create a one page document?

Paulo Cereda

@UlrikeFischer That's the problem: the page that the error is reported is the simplest one in the entire document! :)

I am trying to reduce the issue...

Ulrike Fischer

@PauloCereda which one?

Paulo Cereda

@UlrikeFischer Page 2, for example.

Ulrike Fischer

6:18 PM

@PauloCereda does it break if you compile only the two first pages?

Paulo Cereda

The OP said that pdftk original.pdf output fixed.pdf fixed the issue...

@UlrikeFischer Good question! That means I will have to install the dreadful Reader 9.5.5 again...

Just a minute!

Joseph Wright

@PauloCereda Lucky you

Paulo Cereda

6:36 PM

@UlrikeFischer: now there's the error the PDF is invalid!

If I leave

\include{chapters/foreword}
\include{chapters/prologue}
\include{chapters/license}

Ulrike Fischer

@PauloCereda can you send it to me?

Paulo Cereda

Up to this point, it says the PDF is invalid!

If I comment any of them and try separately, it correctly opens it!

@UlrikeFischer Sure thing! :)

Ulrike Fischer

@PauloCereda works ok for me. No errors. Do the loaded fonts change if you comment one of the files?

Paulo Cereda

@UlrikeFischer I am not sure, but I would say no because the fonts are there since page 1. :)

Let me try, hold the phone. :)

@UlrikeFischer: they don't change.

@UlrikeFischer I sent you a better email. :)

CarLaTeX

6:52 PM

Interesting CTAN announcements today: arara, tikzmarmots and tikzducks!

Paulo Cereda

@CarLaTeX Coincidence? I. THINK. KNOT!

Oh wait.

marmot

@samcarter sorry for going on your nerves, but the marmot with crown is more likely the marmot queen, marmots do not have a king (but this is pretty much the only thing in common with the English ;-)

CarLaTeX

@marmot I like your new avatar :)

marmot

@CarLaTeX It's @samcarter's magic ;-)

CarLaTeX

@marmot I know :)

Paulo Cereda

6:54 PM

@marmot ooh God save the Marmot?

By the way: vimeo.com/279491730

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marmot

@PauloCereda Better than God shave the queen ;-)

Ulrike Fischer

7:16 PM

@PauloCereda sorry had to make Wiener Schnitzel ... but beside this: imho the roman upright font is only used on page 2.

Paulo Cereda

@UlrikeFischer ooh but isn't that Austrian? :)

@UlrikeFischer Oh let me check again! Sorry!

I am not used to reading logs. :)

@UlrikeFischer: never paid attention to the log about fonts. It says something about unavailable fonts...

Never saw this before...

I am such a newbie... :(

Ulrike Fischer

@PauloCereda send me the log ...

Paulo Cereda

@UlrikeFischer Just a minute.

egreg

Goal!

Paulo Cereda

GOAAAAAAAAAAAAAL

egreg

7:30 PM

@PauloCereda That one hit the post.

Paulo Cereda

@egreg it did!

Ulrike Fischer

@PauloCereda lbw?

egreg

8:21 PM

Goal!!!! Mario Mandžukić!

Paulo Cereda

@UlrikeFischer :)

egreg

8:37 PM

@PauloCereda France-Croatia

Paulo Cereda

@egreg Go Croatia!

Ulrike Fischer

@egreg we like Franciacorta

Paulo Cereda

Another (Br)exit for the English?

naphaneal

8:54 PM

@PauloCereda it appears so.

David Carlisle

@PauloCereda don't games end after 45 minutes?

egreg

@DavidCarlisle Sorry.

Paulo Cereda

@DavidCarlisle ooh additional time

David Carlisle

9:14 PM

@PauloCereda I get error 131 which this page suggests might be an issue with acrobat rather than pdf: helpx.adobe.com/x-productkb/multi/…

@PauloCereda see also

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Q: How to overcome Acrobat Reader error 131 with a pdfLaTeX doc?

I'm generating a PDF document with pdflatex (more precisely, latexmk invoked from TexMaker 3.4. My LaTeX install is TeXLive 20120719). I can read the document fine in Okular and Gmail's attachment preview, but a colleague that runs Acrobat Reader on Windows reports: "There was a problem reading t...

Paulo Cereda

@DavidCarlisle I reached the same page, so thought I was unlucky... :(

@DavidCarlisle I will try the proposed approach, let us see...

Paulo Cereda

9:36 PM

@DavidCarlisle, @UlrikeFischer: \pdfobjcompresslevel=0 fixed the issue.

@DavidCarlisle, @UlrikeFischer: would you know why? I am very puzzled.

David Carlisle

@PauloCereda hard to know if pdftex isn't compressing correctly or acrobat isn't understanding the compressed stream correctly

Paulo Cereda

@DavidCarlisle er.... quack? :) I don't know. :)

David Carlisle

@PauloCereda it wouldn't have happened if you'd used emacs

Paulo Cereda

@DavidCarlisle oh no

Alan Munn

It's nice to be in a part of Italy where the restaurants have signs that say "No pizza! Local food only".

Ulrike Fischer

9:49 PM

@DavidCarlisle minitoc uses the rather curious construction \expandafter\noexpand\@ifundefined{c@\mtc@mtade@abbrev depth} in the definition of \mtcsetdepth and this explodes with tl18:

\documentclass{book}
\usepackage{minitoc}
\mtcsetdepth{minitoc}{2}
\begin{document}
TEST
\end{document}

Paulo Cereda

@AlanMunn ooh where are you now?

Alan Munn

@PauloCereda Siena

Paulo Cereda

@AlanMunn ooh inside a Fiat

/ba dum tss

Alan Munn

@PauloCereda If by Fiat you mean inside a medieval walled city, then yes. :)

Paulo Cereda

@AlanMunn of course not! ^^ :D

Alan Munn

9:57 PM

@PauloCereda Picture not needed. I got the joke the first time. :)

Paulo Cereda

@AlanMunn ooh :) Also when you said Fiat, I could say you were inside a box of matches. :)

Ulrike Fischer

@PauloCereda well object compression (which is not the same as the normal pdf compression) is rather new (pdf 1.5) perhaps the older adobe handles it not correctly.

Paulo Cereda

@UlrikeFischer Ah interesting! I will keep a note. Should I define it before \documentclass or the placement does not matter, as long as it is in the preamble?

Alan Munn

@PauloCereda And the "if by X you mean Y" is a common joke structure. E.g.

YouTube is a place for people to share their ideas. If by people you mean 13 year old girls and by ideas you mean how they love the Jonas Brothers.

Paulo Cereda

@AlanMunn ooh purity rings

Alan Munn

10:02 PM

@PauloCereda The fact that you know this is both disturbing and amusing.

Paulo Cereda

@AlanMunn There's a South Park episode about Jonas Brothers and these rings. There's also Mickey Mouse. :)

Ulrike Fischer

@PauloCereda Preamble should be ok, but normally the earlier the better. You could also try to set the pdf version to 1.4.