Minecraft Talk

3:22 AM

I see that I have been banned. Apparently houseboats are not a welcomed member of the community. Is this a ban of the permanent nature? If not, what is the length of the ban?

user30

8:16 AM

It's permanent. You weren't even subtle about it.

Portali5t

12:46 PM

Is Equimus banned? I heard that he is. If so, why?

Nosedrool

1:01 PM

@ThomasMcDonald Thank you for banning those two! I am sorry it had to come to this though

William

@Portali5t You owed me 256 glass, 832 cobble, and 64 torches when you left. You borrowed those materials from me to build your house, I am expecting them back.

Nosedrool

@ThomasMcDonald I've heard rumors that Portali5t was using x-ray hacks, Is this true?

Ronan Forman

@Nosedrool Does it matter, just let it lie.

William

They blocked minecraft at schoool. -_-

Equimus

2:38 PM

And x ray hacks are a free to download texture pack that doesn't work anyway because it doesn't disable shadows.

Ronan Forman

@Equimus So you're blaming him for your griefing? Okay.

Equimus

No, im blaming him for not taking a joke.

user30

3:53 PM

/home has essentially been reset. Use /sethome to set them with the new plugin.

Ronan Forman

@ThomasMcDonald I asked @MarcoCeppi to set mine.stackgaming.com to go to the server, but it seems to have not worked.

William

4:43 PM

Multiworld homes! Yay!

Ronan Forman

5:03 PM

Why are people still burrowing through my base?

Okay screw it! I'm finding out who it is!

Marco Ceppi

5:54 PM

@RonanForman Sorry, it appears there's an issue with my DNS server, fixing.

@RonanForman fixed

Ronan Forman

@MarcoCeppi Nope

@MarcoCeppi Although it may just need to propagate.

Marco Ceppi

6:28 PM

@RonanForman it's fixed, and verified. You need to wait for propagation

William

8:06 PM

@ThomasMcDonald Why on earth did you disable the magnet flag?!

That's the number one thing I like about this server!

It allows me to build machines that automatically collect the profits.

@Nosedrool was using this improperly. The solution is NOT to disable the option for everyone, but talk to him induvidually.

user30

8:31 PM

Well, that's not being condescending at all, is it?

user30

I suggest that in the future you don't tell me what the solution is.

William

Acting in a way that betrays a feeling of patronizing superiority.
(of an action) Demonstrating such an attitude.
Synonyms:
patronizing - gracious
what do you mean by that?

OK, Oh Great One. :P

user30

Yesterday you were complaining about the use of 'magnets'.

William

Yes, the use of magnets by Nosedrool.

He used them improperly.

Now my melon machine, pumpkin, cactus, egg, and sugar cane machines are all broken, a total of roughly 20 hours work.

user30

I didn't know that 'magnets' were even enabled on the server, nor how to adjust them, only that they were handled through LWC.

William

8:35 PM

OK. They are very useful when used properly.

user30

and I certainly had no idea that anyone was using them

William

All of my machines rely on them.

Nosedrool was using them to troll people, so that when they died near his house he would get thier stuff.

user30

lol at chat logs

William

RAGE METER is curently at rougjly 8000.

user30

If you really don't like the server, please feel free to leave.

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William

8:39 PM

Look, I'm grateful for your hosting the server and everything, but you just ruined the most awesome thing about this server. It's understandable that I might be mildy annoyed when you ruin 20 hours work with a few mouse clicks.

Let me guess... because I flagged the message?

jrg

Holy crap guys, calm down.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

♪ It's raining mods, hallelujah ♪

Fabian

We're about 7 hours too late, though

jrg

Yeah, looks like it.

tombull89

Hmm. Someone's been poo-flinging.

William

8:42 PM

I flagged because Matt (@Nosedrool) is upset that Emmmet(@Equimus) just told him off.

jrg

@tombull89 Understatement much? ;)

William

May 4 at 17:08, by Equimus

Well I guess I'm a minecriminal now. What are the coords of the mineprison?

They just keep coming! XD

tombull89

jesus.

user2334

And people tell me I should join a multiplayer server.

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tombull89

jesus

William

8:45 PM

Silence.

user30

@MarkTrapp Try running it.

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William

@ThomasMcDonald So... is the flag going to be re-enabled?

SO what's going to happen to @Equimus ?

user30

He's suspended from chat for an hour.

William

Ah, thats not too bad.

badp

not like he's in chat to begin with

William

8:52 PM

Is the flag gonna be re-enabled?

badp

flags made hours after the fact are a waste of everybody's time

William

I'm assuming you've read our thoughts on the chat, God.

tombull89

I though there was a feature request on MSO that things can't be flagged after a certain amount of time?

badp

@William I don't know who "our" is or who "God" is but I don't like your tone. We're all unpaid volunteers here

William

@badp Talking about the server, not SE. Misunderstanding.

badp

8:53 PM

both us moderating chat and Thomas administrating the Minecraft server

user30

Yes, it will be re-enabled, but your level of self entitlement over this whole thing is really grating.

badp

@William That doesn't make it right

William

@ThomasMcDonald I don't know what to say here. Suddenly I'm the bad guy, the one that brought everyone onto the server int he first place. And well.... I'm not liking it.

badp

You're not the "bad guy", just mind the nagging

William

Suddenly multiple people annoyed at me.... hmm.

user30

8:56 PM

@William Assume good faith.

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tombull89

rummage

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Q: Why am I suspended from chatting for a message that's from May this year?

I have just been suspended from chatting in the C++ lounge for a message that was deleted by the @Feeds bot, that is from May this year. Why now the suspension (30 mins) for a message so old already?! Reason for ban I'm confused.

user30

@tombull89 yay MSO reading.

user30

I made the change in response to your complaints yesterday. It obviously had the intended effect plus some more. I wasn't aware that it would negatively affect your enjoyment of the server so much.

tombull89

...although doesn't seem there was anything done to prevent it.

user30

Raging in here and all over the server when I made a configuration change to try and solve your problems does not encourage me to go out of the way in the future.

user30

9:00 PM

@tombull89 I imagine it happens so rarely.

user30

And most of the time the flags would affect people not in chat, I guess.

William

I can see the intent was good.

And... it's dead.

jrg

@William, take a chill pill. :)

William

Wha, you can read the mesages too?

user30

@William In here.

William

9:05 PM

Not on the server.

jrg

and thats all most of us have to say. adios, I'm out of here. Got school stuff to finish.

William

Look, I'm not mad.

But I'm stuck between a rock and a hard place.

I am aboout to be brutally honest here, and am going to come off as a really mean person, but here's what's going through my head:

Ethan and I have been talking.

And, well, we aren't really sure what to do.

We are grateful for the server and all, but recently....

This is the message that got us thinking:

40 mins ago, by Thomas McDonald

Well, that's not being condescending at all, is it?

39 mins ago, by Thomas McDonald

I suggest that in the future you don't tell me what the solution is.

That got both of us having our second thoughts.

When I heard the secoond message, I immediately thought: Conformation Class

I am really grateful for the server, and he is too.

However, both of us really don't like the God-Like tone that wer'e picking up.

user2334

@William the server is being provided as a courtesy: if you don't care for it anymore, just take off. I don't think anyone would be offended or have bad blood for you or your friend.

William

True, but there are very few other people on the server.

badp

I'm not Thomas but: shutting down a feature is a reasonable response to seeing it abused. I'm sure there are ways to work around the problem. Fighting griefing is a higher priority objective than maintaining your farms at the highest possible throughput.

If Thomas thinks he can get away with re-enabling it: awesome

William

9:16 PM

Yes, I see that and I see his response. That is justified. But I'm questioning his "Don't tell me what the solution is".

The fact that I had the nerve to question his action and his response to my doing so.

His response is what has me annoyed.

If we leave the server, Nosedrool, Ethan and I, there would be very few people on the server.

And I don't want to do that because I think @ThomasMcDonald is a pretty good admin.

badp

I'm just saying that your outrage here feels out of place and that has put Thomas off from considering your point

that said, everybody has bad days; this might very well be Thomas'

...or yours ;)

William

Yes, you have to take into consideration the amount of time it took to create that.

If someone ruined 20 hours of work with a few mouse clicks, your first reaction is to rage.

badp

I don't think figuring the magnet out must've took 20 hours, now :)

user2334

@William Always best not to go with your first reaction when communicating with others, especially in an all-text medium

William

I now see the justification for the disabling of the flag and his reasons for doing so.

@badp No, disabling the magnet flags ruined 5 automatic farms, roughly 20 hours of work.

badp

9:21 PM

I also was sad when I found out my 15 hours of drawing messages pixel by pixel with the paint mod were lost merely by going through any portal

William

@MarkTrapp True, but when you put your first reaction on the internet, you can't take it back.

@badp Yes, but that was your fault.

badp

I didn't, however, sign up on the Minecraft Forums to flame the guy in his mod thread.

@William oh is it my fault that all paintings are cleared by going through a portal?

William

You were hte one going throught the portal.

And you can loook back and spank yourself for going through the portal.

user2334

@William No, but you can give the benefit of the doubt to others when they do something similar. Your incredulity about the magnet flag was met on equal terms: seems like a wash to me.

badp

@William you're not making any sense. It's a bug with the mod. If it doesn't work on both sides of a portal it's worthless to me.

William

9:23 PM

But there you have something to blame YOURSELF for. Here I can't.

badp

What you have to blame yourself for, going by your logic, is relying on magnets

;)

William

I was assuming that no one was going to disable them, and you were assuming that the portal wasn't going to affect your stuff. I see your point now.

badp

Still flaming the guy who got me the mod at no cost for me is not the way to go in a civilized world

William

True.

badp

He's got other stuff on his mind, I can't use his mod. Too bad oh well I'll resort to 7 meters high wool signs.

William

9:26 PM

But your quoting my first reaction,not what I said afterwards.

badp

William

Well, I have now thoroughly explained my doubts as best as possible, thank you for calming me down somewhat.

I will make every effort to take everyone's actions in the best possible light.

And I can see where you were coming from, @ThomasMcDonald, and I apologize for my overreaction.

But please see where I was coming from with my reaction as well.

BUt, having explained myself,I am going back to the game, hoping the magnet flag will be eventually re-encabled.

badp

I have no problem in seeing what you're coming from

William

Thank you for seeing from my point of view, and I see yours as well.

user30

I'm going to post this message as I was going to post it before everyone decided to reconciile.

user30

9:30 PM

I'm finding it very hard to care about this whole thing though. I have exams in less than four weeks that determine whether I meet my university offer or not. I took time out to attempt to fix your problem, like I did last night as well. Suggesting that what I did was completely wrong, and telling me what I should have done instead is not going to get a great response. As I said before, if you want to leave the server, nobody is stopping you.

user30

The fact is, I have lots more important things in life to worry about right now than whether magnets work in Minecraft.

William

@ThomasMcDonald Thank you for takign time to try to fix things. But what do I say?

user30

Something that doesn't involve raging directly at me.

user30

Anyway, second order differentials are calling. This saga has gone on for too long.

William

If I want what I have done to work again, I have to speak up.

4 mins ago, by William

And I can see where you were coming from, @ThomasMcDonald, and I apologize for my overreaction.

Look, I'm not mad at the moment, and I feel as if I ambeing raged at.

William

9:44 PM

@ThomasMcDonald How can you get to your home in anoter world?

William

10:34 PM

@ThomasMcDonald This is my official apology. I am sorry for yelling at you right off the bat without thinking through why you were disabling the flag. You were just trying to help us, and went out of your way to do so when you certainly didn't have to. I have elected to stay on the server, you have done an excellent job taking care of our greifing problems to date and are doing a great job being admin. I apologize again for blaming you.

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