@skull That's why they are using groundhogs rather than dogs to predict the weather... ;-)

lol

Hi chat!

Can I insert or play a flv or mpeg video file ina beamer slide?

@BAYMAX See here: tex.stackexchange.com/questions/102101/…

@CarLaTeX Thank you so much for the reference, can you help me, i have FLV format

video file

@PauloCereda ^^^^A fine sunny day well suited for an excursion.

@UlrikeFischer ooooooooh

@JosephWright git reset --hard joseph/expanded what could go wrong...

@BAYMAX I'm not an expert, sorry

It's Ok!

can I ask it in main?

will it be marked duplicate

as I have flv files

@BAYMAX see tex.stackexchange.com/q/345431/36296 for a summary which packages can include which formats

@BAYMAX If your format is not listed, convert it to some format which is supported.

@samcarter thanks for stopping by

and for looking

I am writing in Sharelatex

@UlrikeFischer Was the football duck not allowed to come along on the excursion?

perhaps they have the multimedia packages?

@BAYMAX I am pretty sure they have both packages.

Nice

So i have to simply copy and paste the code in the beamer slide

with

addresource=file name.flv?

and

source=filename.flv

like for example -

where in sharelatex i will upload filename.flv

will this do?

@samcarter they had better things to do ... vvvvv

@BAYMAX I don't use sharlatex, but as far as I know it has some menu on the left hand site where one can up/download the file from your folder.

Justify wins at the Kentucky Derby

Oh! Watching a game with his friends!

@UlrikeFischer ooh ducks everywhere

And it's a Monchengladbach duck

@PauloCereda three Mönchengladbach ducks.

@UlrikeFischer ooh Drei Mönchengladbachenten

@PauloCereda Hi! Are you still in Porto?

@samcarter I am, for one more week. I will leave on May 11.

@AlanMunn damn, my money was on raggedright

@PauloCereda Oh, nice! I wish you a lot of fun!

@samcarter thank you <3

@PauloCereda sorted out the language yet?

@DavidCarlisle quite. :)

@DavidCarlisle :)

@daleif For a short amount of time I was happy since I thought that a pro agrees with me :)

@samcarter Yes

But I found this showing on the beamer slide -

> [ width=0.4totalheight=0.225activate=pageopen, passcontext,addresource=Chimeradiffusive.flv,flashvars=source=Chimeradiffusive.f‌​lv] Click!VPlayer.swf

when I wrote -

.

where i have uploaded chimera_diffusive.flv file to sharelatex

@BAYMAX Can you share a link to your sharlatex code?

can u see it @samcarter

@BAYMAX Seems like you are not loading the medi9 package.

Can you see the code tonight

hmm.. what should i do @samcarter

@BAYMAX Load the media9 package via \usepackage{media9}

@PauloCereda You're thinking too much about code :)

@samcarter I am. :) Writing the arara manual as we speak. :)

@PauloCereda Ohh! I am looking forward to this masterpiece!

@samcarter Now I am getting a video type

@BAYMAX ?

@PauloCereda Content or TeX fanciness?

@samcarter Far from it. :) But the style is nice, take a look at my repo, in the docs/ folder.

@TeXnician content. :) TeX things are already settled. :)

U observe any change in the last slide?

@samcarter

Its saying Click!

@PauloCereda I already visited the repo! It looks really beautiful!

@samcarter awww

@BAYMAX Great! Now if you download the pdf file and try with a pdf reader capable of java script, e.g. adobe reader, it might work.

Nice let me try and then will let u know

@BAYMAX Off-topic, you should not load the color package with beamer, but use \documentclass[xcolor={dvipsnames,usenames}]{beamer}

I see

what is the advantage of using the latter?

@BAYMAX With your original version with the color package your document did not compile but caused an error due to an option clash. -- Never ignore error messages!

Oh I see

thank you @samcarter

@PauloCereda Your new arara manual design inspired me add something to another manual:

@samcarter awwww <3

@samcarter it's adorable!

@BAYMAX There are also some more errors, you should remove them before using the pdf. Sharelatex marks the problematic lines in red

@Maïeul -- i've come to call the various engines ( tex | pdftex | xetex | luatex ) "flavors". although all but the basic tex program are the result of combining tex.exe with a "format file" (.fmt), it's possible to load even more into a runnable processor, for example a production version to efficiently manage a particular journal. i don't remember who came up with this term, but we've used it in tugboat for a very long time.

@Maïeul -- i'm looking forward to it.

@JosephWright automake:(

@DavidCarlisle I've not been looking at that ...

@DavidCarlisle Have been thinking about various bits and pieces ...

@JosephWright wise move:-)

@DavidCarlisle I've subscribed to the pdfTeX dev list, been looking at the sources (e.g. for the manual), etc.

@DavidCarlisle Remember I'm not really a programmer, so I'm already having 'fun' with Pascal, WEB, CWEB (LuaTeX), ...

@DavidCarlisle Also doing UK-TUG admin :)

@JosephWright yes seen some messages, been trying to get the make system to run extra tests, I got it so make would run the test as asked but if i build the whole thing automake helpfully builds a new makefile that doesn't call the test, interesting learning curve:-)

And reading BibTeX source ...

@DavidCarlisle Very helpful!

@DavidCarlisle Also reading Bruno's checkins, of course

@JosephWright read some of the comments, skipped the code:-)

@DavidCarlisle Probably do an expl3 release in a second

@DavidCarlisle Something like that here too, but I did read l3fparray code

LaTeX2e <2018-04-01> patch level 4

@JosephWright oh via tlmgr, I should do an update

This seems odd. A trivial bug in the TikZ calc library that has been known for over two years, and still isn't fixed? See tex.stackexchange.com/questions/430293 and its duplicate.

Uh, make that three years. Is it that TikZ isn't maintained anymore? Somehow I seem to have missed that.

@HaraldHanche-Olsen only two? I have some reported for 20.

@DavidCarlisle Oh. But you use picture, don't you?

@HaraldHanche-Olsen only if there are planes to be drawn

@DavidCarlisle or ducks?

there was a question recently about tikz maintenance

@DavidCarlisle Looked but couldn't find it. The few dates I find in the various TikZ source files seem to agree that nothing happened in a long time, though.

Wonder how many unofficial TikZ patches are floating around.

@HaraldHanche-Olsen has someone reported the bug?

@UlrikeFischer No idea. The first question is, where to report it?

@marmot While the link to MacTeX on the page you posted is obviously not out of date, any site that's still talking about Snow Leopard and Fink shouldn't really be recommended as a resource, IMO.

@HaraldHanche-Olsen probably here sourceforge.net/projects/pgf

@UlrikeFischer Yeah, found it just now.

@AlanMunn Sure, but that's why I was specifically referring to the TeX part. (And I checked that the both links there work and are actual.)

@AlanMunn Especially because of ``We can't live without TeX.` ;-)`

@marmot Yes, I jumped the gun a bit when I saw Fink and Snow Leopard. :) Because Fink was a disaster in the early days.

@UlrikeFischer There seems to be a similar one here, open since 2015-09-10: sourceforge.net/p/pgf/patches/21

@AlanMunn Sure, I am not endorsing fink. (I know Hitoshi rather well, that's why I like advertizing his web site. Of course, after he became the director of IPMU, he did not have the time to update that web site...)

@HaraldHanche-Olsen well it doesn't sound as if it means the same command. but it is a rather bad bug report without any example.

@HaraldHanche-Olsen tex.stackexchange.com/questions/427890/…

@HaraldHanche-Olsen I had some discussions with both Christian and Till recently: Christian has made commits, so I think it's just a 'pause'

@UlrikeFischer True. Since I found it under “Patches”, I assumed there was, you know, a patch there, but I didn't look for it. Now that I do, I don't see any button to push in order to reveal it. So I have no idea what it is listed under Patches.

@JosephWright Okay, thanks.

Everyone busy watching the snooker?

@HaraldHanche-Olsen Good stuff: it's a shame SourceForge doesn't allow pull requests ...

Hmm, they do have 'Fork'

@JosephWright And I have Spoon ;-)

@HaraldHanche-Olsen sourceforge.net/p/pgf/git/merge-requests/1

@JosephWright wooh

Learning opportunity for today: you can do pull requests on SourceForge, they just call them merge requests ...

@JosephWright Well GitHub is the outlier here, GitLab also calls them "merge requests".

@TeXnician BitBucket also goes with Pull Request ... I guess the logic is that one pulls, but you don't have to have a merge commit

@TeXnician Anyway, the key is I know how to do it now :)

@JosephWright That's terminology. Personally I do think both terms work well as long as developers know which command on the command-line to take to merge :)

@JosephWright Of course ;)

@TeXnician Sure: my problem on SourceForge was that the buttons aren't that obvious

@JosephWright You mean that red one with "Don't hit this button to not disturb the maintainers"? ;)

@JosephWright travis likes my makefile at last

@DavidCarlisle Good

@DavidCarlisle I just assumed you've got it right (enough)

@JosephWright asi just mentioned in mail, I ended up editing the generated makefile.in as well as pdftex.am which seems wrong as the former is generated from the latter (but is separately checked in to the repository so I'm not sure it is really generated any more) tracing exactly what configure builds at the top level is a bit hard:-0

@DavidCarlisle Indeed

@DavidCarlisle I was thinking about just having the files we need, but I've no idea what they are!

@DavidCarlisle I notice that pdfTeX does actually have a live SVN

@JosephWright there was a request on texlive list the other day to just build one thing but Karl confirmed that currently the makefiles only go down to "web2c" and you have to build everything below there. xetex and luatex both have cut down versions of the whole tree, but I've found them harder to set up.

@DavidCarlisle Assuming everything passes for me, I'll squash back into one commit: I'm trying to keep things simple once they are working

@DavidCarlisle Yes: pdfTeX looks the same

@DavidCarlisle I guess I find the whole setup very odd: there's so much stuff

@JosephWright certainly wants squashing, the internal commits are just tracing my learning curve:-) (I should probably have squashed before the reuest but I'm not sure i know how to do that)

@DavidCarlisle In the end it's not really important here: we are not going to merge back into the source (as that's SVN), so our 'internal' management doesn't matter

@DavidCarlisle The only thing I do want is the changes to .web files to end up as single commits, mainly for my own sanity

@JosephWright currntly I have just added an expanded.test script that adds an expanded test (and just for pdftex) I could add similar scripts in the other directories but given that adding a test to the make system is far harder than writing the test, i'm wondering about changing it to be something like extrautils_test and testing all added primitives in multiple tests in the same tex file, then adding new tests just means that you add a test to the tex file and a new entry in the normalised ..

@JosephWright .. log and wouldn't have to touch the makefiles at all.

@DavidCarlisle Let's be honest, we'll pick up issues in our test suite anyway ...

@DavidCarlisle ... and we know how to make that work :)

@JosephWright yes but having travis check all the new primitives in all the engines would give people confidence to accept the diffs, I think.

@DavidCarlisle True ...

@DavidCarlisle The issue in the end is getting a response on that one tricky engine

@JosephWright: answering to you.

@JosephWright but I think I will go with the single test file approach so you may want to hold off on the PR (Partly I just wanted somewhere that Karl could review)

@DavidCarlisle Oh, I've already merged the PR

@DavidCarlisle In the end we can always just make a new branch: this is all disposable stuff

@JosephWright OK no harm done it does work (and check \expanded)

@DavidCarlisle I'm getting a crash-course in WEB

My conclusion: I can see why this didn't catch on!

@JosephWright :-)

@DavidCarlisle Let's see if Travis-CI thinks I'm right

@egreg I'll forward a mail you might enjoy

@JosephWright :)

@JosephWright it's hard to argue that luatex was exactly wrong to do web2c once and then maintain it as C

@DavidCarlisle I'm not arguing at all!

@JosephWright :-)

@DavidCarlisle Maybe Web2Fortran could make things more fun to work with.

@egreg Sounds fun!

@egreg w3.pppl.gov/~krommes/fweb_toc.html

@DavidCarlisle TeX Live is using autotools? Or is that something else?

@FaheemMitha well as i say there is a makefile.in that says it's made by automake but it's checked in to the sources so I'm not sure if it requires automake now, haven't traced it all, configure runs for ages, then make does something sensible:-)

@DavidCarlisle I don't think you're supposed to check in makefile.in.

You do commit Makefile.am, though.

@FaheemMitha well that's what I would have thought but it's not my repo I was just trying to add a test file (easy) and then add it to the makefile so it got run (less easy:-)

@FaheemMitha there are dozens of zzz.am files for all the different programs in texlive and they get merged into one big Makefile.in but that is also checked in, so It isn't currently clear to me whether the Makefile.in is not used, or whether automake isn't run (it may depend which platform it is being compiled on there isn't much documentation and Makefile.in is a little over 18 thousand lines long so not the easiest thing to read