aha

You should keep you windows up to date you know

eh, whats the worse that could happen

if theres like some vulnerability

and someone steal ssn and credit card

thats probably already leaked since i live in US

Yeah but there's cool features sometimes

Like did you know windows has tar and curl now

yes like WSL that doesn't work

@Pavel does it have grep

Nope

Still useless :P

That said, as of yesterday WSL shares a clipboard with the rest of Windows, making it a lot more usable.

Might have been the day before yesterday.

this is really basic wow

Also control-shift-c/v work as copy-paste in WSL and CMD now instead of just right click

maybe if i come back in 20 years windows will have sed

if you put glitter on crap, it's still crap but now it's just shiny

@Mego IMO WSL mostly eliminates the need for Cygwin.

True

Actually, does GCC cross-compile?

you can't cross compile to windows since you need DLLs and DLL linkers etc

Well GCC does run on Windows through Cygwin

If you create a binary with Cygwin GCC you don't need Cygwin to run it anymore, right?

Ah.

(well, you could bundle cygwin.dll, but doesn't count)

obvious solution is to use VSL which is uber-cross platform

So is brainfuck

good luck writing to file with bf

or creating GUI app

someone needs to make bf derivative that can do syscalls

Can you do either of those things with VSL yet

yes

i have only tested ios app though

But can't print integers iirc

that is because generics are hard to implement

everyone in the world should use D

for generics?

@ConorO'Brien 0/10, not C#

0/10, not using a sharp needle

@Pavel C#'s too verbose

C# isn't all that bad, especially compared to Java

that applies to most languages

Yeah, but most people think C# is just like Java

that applies to a lot of languages

Granted I don't know much D, but from what I've seen after getting past the boilerplate for defining a class I don't think it's much more concise than C#.

someone should make C# that runs on the JVM

That exists I'm pretty sure

Actually, no, it exists the other way around.

Java runs on .NET through IKVM

@Mego :|

@Pavel protip: you should just have used terminator in an X11 window

I shouldn't have to do any weird configuration to use my clipboard reasonably

Try it online! - seems decently concise

conor are you spreading the gospel of D

also where did this new name come from

The goat came up with it

@ConorO'Brien new[]{8, 6, 4, 2, 0, 4, 3, 2, 1} :P

right right fun e

@quartata yes

tbh q I thought you were peart by your avatar

:| just realized Christopher is basically using Helka's old avatar

@ConorO'Brien this is not calvin

but it's tiny

and generally the same color

I do think D lets you do a lot of neat things, but I think that sometimes it's worth giving up some concisemess for readability. Same goes for Perl.

Especially for Perl.

@Pavel perl is readable though

just because it's not what people are used to doesn't mean it's unreadable :P

don't expect everything to be C-derived (e.g. APL, or Haskell, or Forth)

D is not very concise

I mean it's better than C++ but I wouldn't compare it to Perl

@ASCII-only Perl got most of its bad rep from C people trying to write Perl

Perl isn't as unreadable as a lot of people think it is, but it's still harder to understand than a lot of other languages.

@Pavel yeah, but that's by no means unreadable

feature-request vote emojis/icons, like on GH issues. seems like a nice way to implement this

and what @ASCII-only said

@Pavel no :|

@Pavel give example of program that would be hard to understand in sane code style

^

any language can look confusing

And any language can look very readable. But with Perl it's easier to accidentally write yourself into a bowl of spaghetti.

@Pavel if you even know what you're doing/how to write spaghetti

It's really easy to write Perl scripts and I think that's excellent but it's not quite as easy to maintain later on

readable

@Pavel that's a fault on the programmer, not the language

@Pavel it's really easy to write scripts in scripting languages

IKR who could have guessed

But a Perl one-liner can be a lot more powerful than a python one-liner.

Also, this might be just me, and it's not that big a deal, but I find it easier to remember APL symbols than all the two-character $[wat] special vars ;-;