This Is Fine

12:03 AM

@GodEmperorDune libertarian Socialist caucus owns

@Ash is that the one about how the guy wanted into Zuckerberg's trash to get info to make a fake account and seems to complain about how private he is?

GodEmperorDune

12:23 AM

Photo of Zuck's notes, by AP's @andyharnik

Tweeted by becket on April 10, 2018 at 11:18 PM

Unionhawk

1:25 AM

@UweBollocks lol

Tweeted by KrangTNelson on April 11, 2018 at 1:13 AM in reply to UweBollocks

asdf

Unionhawk

2:16 AM

Last Thursday, an ICE raid in Morristown, Tennessee, detained 100 people. If you want to know what kind of impact that had on the community: 600 students did not show up for school the next day.

Tweeted by kksteffany on April 9, 2018 at 4:46 PM

quartata

2:27 AM

a really slick move for zuck would be to end his testimony by saying "and with that, i bid you adieu" then immediately collapsing forward onto the desk, his brain successfully uploaded to the cloud

Tweeted by jrhennessy on April 10, 2018 at 9:21 PM

Memor-X

3:00 AM

Mark Zuckerbot at his congress hearing controlling Smile Level

@quartata ^ think he's already in the cloud controlling his avatar via sliders

Tim Stone

4:34 AM

Trump tried to fire Mueller for probing his finances: report http://hill.cm/yRCP0Dv

Tweeted by thehill on April 11, 2018 at 4:31 AM

> However, Mueller’s team told the White House that the reports were inaccurate and the president backed off from the move, the Times reported. Trump’s lawyers also did not believe the reports to be accurate, because Trump did not keep his money in the bank.

Did Trump not know he didn't have money in that bank, or? 🤔

Memor-X

6:36 AM

Sydney businessman Salim Mehajer found guilty of electoral fraud plot http://bit.ly/2Jznfgi

Tweeted by SBSNews on April 11, 2018 at 2:01 AM

> Mehajer was released from jail last week after being granted bail on a charge of perverting the course of justice for the alleged staging of a car accident on his way to face court last year on assault charges.

GodEmperorDune

8:39 AM

It seems important to note that TJ Miller, who's been accused of sexual assault, did not merely call in a false bomb threat, but specifically made a "report that a female passenger with whom he'd allegedly been feuding on the DC–New York train had 'a bomb in her bag.'" https://twitter.com/BuzzFeed/status/983763999291596800

Tweeted by Shakestweetz on April 10, 2018 at 7:30 PM

I didn’t think it could get more fuct

Mad Scientist

11:03 AM

Russia vows to shoot down any and all missiles fired at Syria. Get ready Russia, because they will be coming, nice and new and “smart!” You shouldn’t be partners with a Gas Killing Animal who kills his people and enjoys it!

Tweeted by realDonaldTrump on April 11, 2018 at 10:57 AM

Wipqozn

@MadScientist how exciting

It's like watching a tom Clancy movie!

Mad Scientist

Russia announced that they'd retaliate against the source of any missiles launched at Syria

Wipqozn

Of course

WW3 looking more and more likely

Thanks again America for electing a crazy person because you wanted him to build a giant wall to keep the scary brown people out

Unionhawk

12:39 PM

hahahahahahahahaahahsdfsdjahfjlskadhflsadkjfh

paul ryan is leaving

and I'm p sure his only primary challenger is Nehlen

lol

congrats @IronStache

I’m joining the board of #AcreageHoldings because my thinking on cannabis has evolved. I’m convinced de-scheduling the drug is needed so we can do research, help our veterans, and reverse the opioid epidemic ravaging our communities. @AcreageCannabis https://www.acreageholdings.com/news-release-board-of-advisors-appointment

Tweeted by SpeakerBoehner on April 11, 2018 at 10:58 AM

this is a wild day and it isn't even 9am

fredley

12:54 PM

@walaa_3ssaf No, dopey, I would not go into Syria, but if I did it would be by surprise and not blurted all over the media like fools.

Tweeted by realDonaldTrump on August 29, 2013 at 12:09 PM in reply to Walaa3ssaf

There is always a tweet

Mad Scientist

1:06 PM

Much of the bad blood with Russia is caused by the Fake & Corrupt Russia Investigation, headed up by the all Democrat loyalists, or people that worked for Obama. Mueller is most conflicted of all (except Rosenstein who signed FISA & Comey letter). No Collusion, so they go crazy!

Tweeted by realDonaldTrump on April 11, 2018 at 1:00 PM

Rosenstein is done, I don't expect him to survive this week

And all of them are Republicans, you fucking moron

Memor-X

@fredley and yet he will blurt it all over twitter

Unionhawk

1:17 PM

My favorite Paul Ryan moment is the time he said that Rage Against the Machine was his favorite band and Tom Morello responded by writing an editorial for Rolling Stone just shitting all over him. https://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/tom-morello-paul-ryan-is-the-embodiment-of-the-machine-our-music-rages-against-20120816

Tweeted by ParkerMolloy on April 11, 2018 at 1:13 PM

LMAO

caps lock

it's only lowercase funny

Tim Stone

1:36 PM

I just woke up and judging by everything that's happened I'm not positive I'm actually awake

Unionhawk

Let's review

1) we are going to bomb syria

2) paul ryan is not seeking reelection (corolary: paul nehlen has secured the GOP nomination in WI-1)

3) john boehner is joining the board of a cannabis company

Wipqozn

@fredley I can't believe this was written by an adult.

Unionhawk

oh! corollary #2 from point 2: the GOP is now running two nazis in house races

unless there's some other primary candidate but I doubt it

Tim Stone

Chairman of Sinclair TV was found in contempt of court by a judge in Maine for breaking a restraining order in a dispute with his neighbors, who tell me they "wish he'd just go away" https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/apr/11/sinclair-chairman-david-d-smith-neighbors-disputes?CMP=share_btn_tw

Tweeted by jonswaine on April 11, 2018 at 1:35 PM

@Unionhawk Oh at first I thought you meant some other primary candidate who was a Nazi (so more than 2) and I was like "mmmm could very well be tbh"

Unionhawk

no I'm just pretty sure 2 of them are running unopposed in two primaries now

I guess nehlen is slightly more questionable on that than the literal former leader but like

come on

Tim Stone

1:53 PM

BREAKING: Russia says missiles that Trump promises to send to Syria would destroy evidence of suspected chemical weapons attack.

Tweeted by AP on April 11, 2018 at 11:37 AM

:|

Tim Stone

2:04 PM

New -- Paul Ryan called President Trump before going into his conference meeting this morning to inform him that he won't seek re-election, source tells me. He also called Vice President Mike Pence to let him know.

Tweeted by kaitlancollins on April 11, 2018 at 2:04 PM

Oh good Pence won't be out of the loop this time

fredley

Wait, as in Paul Ryan won't be?

Unionhawk

paul ryan is not seeking reelection for the WI-1 house seat

he's accomplished his keg party college goals

fredley

oshit

Rektpublicans

Unionhawk

Oh, I lied, Nehlen is NOT running unopposed

> Primary candidates
Democratic Party Democrats

Cathy Myers[8]
Randy Bryce[9]

Republican Party Republicans

Paul Nehlen[10]
Nick Polce[11]

Oh the filing deadline isn't even until June 1

who the fuck holds primaries in August

Tim Stone

NEW: GOP Rep. Dennis Ross of Florida is retiring, according to the Tampa Bay Times. http://www.tampabay.com/florida-politics/buzz/2018/04/11/rep-dennis-ross-is-retiring/

Tweeted by LauraLitvan on April 11, 2018 at 2:07 PM

> “You all know that I didn’t seek this job — I took it reluctantly”

LOL

Yes, the man with the keg dream about punishing the poors took the job to punish the poors reluctantly

Unionhawk

2:21 PM

to be fair the job of GOP house speaker probably sucks

John Boehner hated his job

Tim Stone

Is it because their party lets particularly batshit insane individuals get elected?

Unionhawk

yes

Tim Stone

Speaker Paul Ryan: "This year will be my last one as a member of the House. "I will be retiring in January, leaving this majority in good hands with what I believe is a very bright future." https://abcn.ws/2GQEsUG https://t.co/1NobxLNkEL

Tweeted by evanmcmurry on April 11, 2018 at 2:22 PM

I assume he means the blinding bright light of the nuclear apocalypse

Unionhawk

and also it's hard to gauge with boehner in particular since he's your standard cincinnati country club guy

in that he's red wine drunk like, all of the time

Tim Stone

I suppose that's technically not allowed on the House floor

Unionhawk

2:23 PM

it should be

Unionhawk

2:46 PM

@SpeakerBoehner @AcreageCannabis Hi John! We're actually collecting signatures for a ballot initiative in Ohio to reduce nonviolent possession and use crimes to misdemeanors fully retroactively, and using the money saved on treatment centers instead of prisons. I hope to see your support :)

Tweeted by Unionhawk on April 11, 2018 at 2:44 PM in reply to SpeakerBoehner

:)

Tim Stone

2:57 PM

Boehner shows up tomorrow with a "420 Let's Blaze" t-shirt and says "LET'S DO THIS SHIT"

"Sir are you drunk?"
"Aren't you?"

Unionhawk

if you aren't you're doing Ohio wrong, honestly

I'm really excited about this initiative though and I hope it passes

end the prison to prison pipeline

Tim Stone

A lot of you have been asking about my position on marijuana. Here it is. https://t.co/iEKLHgClFN

Tweeted by CynthiaNixon on April 11, 2018 at 2:08 PM

puzzlepiece87

@Unionhawk Where are their visitor badges? :P

@Unionhawk Fired for breaking security rules :P

@fredley This but in bold.

@TimStone xD

Tim Stone

Ezra Cohen-Watnick, who was removed from Trump’s National Security Council by H.R. McMaster, is joining the Department of Justice as a national security adviser to Jeff Sessions, a source familiar with the matter told TPM. https://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/ezra-cohen-watnick-justice-department-sessions

Tweeted by kylegriffin1 on April 11, 2018 at 3:05 PM

Cop named Dick Holder is fired for moonlighting as a prostitute https://nyp.st/2IGDqY2

Tweeted by nypost on April 11, 2018 at 10:51 AM

I see the UK is trying to outdo our parody reality

Needs an @darth Photoshop

Tweeted by ryanbeckwith on April 11, 2018 at 3:12 PM

ಠ_ಠ

THEY'RE ON MEDICAID BECAUSE BEING EMPLOYED DOESN'T MEAN YOU CAN GET INSURANCE JFC

quartata

3:19 PM

oh fucking hell

Tim Stone

My fiancee specifically cannot get benefits through work because she's "part time" despite working five or six days a week

Unionhawk

hang on I have something for this

quartata

"who left welfare and returned to work saw their average incomes more than double"

Unionhawk

21 hours ago, by Ash

Because usually people who make those takes have never been poor enough to need this kind of help

quartata

:thInKInG:

Unionhawk

3:20 PM

HMM YES INTERESTING THIS CHECKS OUT HERE TOO

it's almost like

Tim Stone

Imagine using Brownback and frickin' Paul LePage as your poster boys, jfc

quartata

here's the new party line

Tim Stone

throws some tables

quartata

broke: being woke woke: being broke

Unionhawk

@TimStone hell yeah though they solved the problem of people having great insurance provided by the state

(for values of great meaning everyone I know on medicaid says it owns)

(ymmv in other states)

(since Ohio expanded)

Tim Stone

3:23 PM

#BREAKING Suspect lights his jacket on fire, barricades himself inside bathroom at Denny's at 16575 Sherman Way in Van Nuys, police say; LAPD on scene

Tweeted by ABC7 on April 11, 2018 at 3:20 PM

But also people in LA seem to have a really hard time saying in the center of their lane judging by the cars on the left 🤔

@nikkihaley @franceonu @KarenPierceUN UK Amb. to the UN, @KarenPierceUN: - "With respect to Karl #Marx, I think he must be turning in his grave to see what has become of his country… in its defense of the use of chemical weapons against the innocent.” If #Russia wants a criminal investigation we can refer to ICC."

Tweeted by Charles_Lister on April 10, 2018 at 8:07 PM in reply to Charles_Lister

Unionhawk

noted russian Karl Marx

Tim Stone

🤦

GodEmperorDune

@TimStone dat name tho

Mad Scientist

@TimStone Pretty sure we didn't defend anyone using chemical weapons

GodEmperorDune

@TimStone bumper to bumper traffic is a helluva drug

Unionhawk

3:34 PM

I mean the train of thought exists but it's wrong

Marx->Marxism->communism->the ussr->Russia

Tim Stone

.@RepMikeCapuano: "Is it true that you intend to run for the Speaker of the House next year?" @MickMulvaneyOMB: "You know it's interesting, 'cause I don't think you have to be a member…" Full video here: https://cs.pn/2JEtnUz https://t.co/ti6peOXpFL

Tweeted by cspan on April 11, 2018 at 3:35 PM

Mad Scientist

there was that other guy, I think his name started with "L", that was actually a Russian

Unionhawk

Yeah Lenin was a Russian revolutionary

Tim Stone

Look the British are ejecting themselves from Europe they can't be expected to keep all these simple historical facts straight

quartata

ah yes "lemon"

@TimStone needs conformation from fredley

Unionhawk

3:39 PM

Socialism is when Russia does stuff, and the more stuff it does, the more socialister it is

Tim Stone

#Putin spokesman tells me in Kremlin about #Trump latest tweets on Russia: «We don't take part in Twitter diplomacy, we are supporters of serious approaches. We still believe that it's important not to take steps that can harm the already fragile situation in Syria»

Tweeted by world_reporter on April 11, 2018 at 3:17 PM

ಠ_ಠ

puzzlepiece87

@Unionhawk Unless it's colluding with Trump, which definitely didn't happen but wouldn't be bad if rock-solid proof was discovered because that's just making America great again.

fredley

I wonder if I headdesk hard enough, I'll end up in New Zealand or somewhere far away from all this

GodEmperorDune

3:56 PM

@fredley well you won’t end up in the EU, that’s for sure

#lolbrektxit

quartata

legitimately wondering how baked boehner is at this exact moment

like I think we all know his "change of heart" cannot be entirely based on second-hand experience

Unionhawk

@fredley it looks like you'd end up several hundred miles to the southeast

freemaptools.com/tunnel-to-other-side-of-the-earth.htm

fredley

@Unionhawk :(

GodEmperorDune

@quartata ericandreweedeyes.jpg

Greetings. We’re the journalists of the Chicago Tribune and its community publications, and we proudly announce the formation of the Chicago Tribune Guild. We’re unionizing to protect the future of the newspapers we love and bring readers the best journalism possible. #TribUnion

Tweeted by CTGuild on April 11, 2018 at 1:57 PM

puzzlepiece87

@GodEmperorDune Good to do before Sinclair purchase approved.

quartata

4:04 PM

nice

Unionhawk

John fucking Boehner is to the left of Rising Democrat Star Joe Kennedy III on weed https://twitter.com/SpeakerBoehner/status/984022770752290818

Tweeted by firescotch on April 11, 2018 at 2:26 PM

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

heh

GodEmperorDune

hueed

Tim Stone

@Unionhawk "Joe Kennedy: J/K for President"

I apologise for nothing

fredley

Unionhawk

a reminder that JK3 is against decriminalization literally because it would eliminate a probable cause avenue for the police to just search vehicles

GodEmperorDune

4:18 PM

@Unionhawk yeah this is what i call a sunken take because anyone espousing it should go in the sea

quartata

it's such bullshit too

fredley

G E T I N T H E S E A

quartata

if that's really what you want then just take your pick of schedule 1 drugs

or maybe like get a warrant

Unionhawk

I'm even using literally correctly here, not even an incidental "because he does not support decriminalization for other reasons, then he's ok with the status quo"

quartata

I dunno

Mad Scientist

4:21 PM

bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-04-11/…

> U.S. Special Counsel Robert Mueller asked a judge in Alexandria, Virginia, to issue 35 sets of subpoenas to witnesses for a July 10 appearance at a trial. That’s when President Donald Trump’s former campaign Chairman Paul Manafort is set to go on trial on tax and bank fraud charges.

Mueller asked for blank subpoenas, with names to be filled in later.

35 blank subpoenas sounds rather unusual

Unionhawk

hold on, 35... 3+5=8... 8... uh...

I got nothing

quartata

35 -> 3*5 = 15 -> 1+5 = 6 -> 6 / (number of eyes Manafort has) = 3, you're welcome

Unionhawk

35-45=-10... -1*0=0... 0 is how much more time Donald "Covfefe" DRUMPF has left in office

BOOM

GodEmperorDune

nah, it's 8 * 3 =24 then flip it because trump changes his mind = 42 then *10 to make it bigly and 420 legalize it boehner

quartata

hahahaha

Tim Stone

4:28 PM

@MadScientist Useful to let Manafort know he's screwed without tipping off other people who might find themselves screwed too, though

Tim Stone

5:05 PM

Top Coast Guard admiral mocks Trump's border wall: It's "shortsighted" to think immigrants just won't go around it http://hill.cm/mPnJWrk

Tweeted by thehill on April 11, 2018 at 5:04 PM

Coast Guard: "Awww yeah we're getting an aircraft carrier"

"The night after Prada Marfa officially debuted, the building was broken into, its contents (six handbags and 14 right footed shoes) were stolen, and the word "Dumb" as well as the phrase "Dum Dum" were spray painted on the sides of the structure"

Tweeted by Oniropolis on April 11, 2018 at 4:56 PM in reply to Oniropolis

lol

Cambridge Analytica's acting CEO has now also resigned

> GOP lawmaker shreds Zuckerberg: Opioid dealers are using your platform to sell drugs

I guess that's an angle?

btw this is also happening:

Billy Long has brought out a poster of Diamond and Silk and is reading a question they sent to him to ask Zuckerberg!

Tweeted by JoePerticone on April 11, 2018 at 5:14 PM

Because we are in the dumbest timeline

Ohio House speaker resigns after FBI probes foreign trips allegedly funded by lobbyists http://hill.cm/euneumy

Tweeted by thehill on April 11, 2018 at 5:25 PM

puzzlepiece87

5:58 PM

Why is every single politician the very worst politician?

user15026

I feel like that's almost a prerequisite to be a politician at this point

murgatroid99

@puzzlepiece87 because that's false, and judging any group based only on news articles written about individual members of the group is inherently very biased

puzzlepiece87

@murgatroid99 You are totally right, I was exaggerating for comedic effect.

@murgatroid99 I'm a big Cory Booker fan myself.

Unionhawk

eh, he's ok

user15026

@Unionhawk Huh, I'd end up in the ocean apparently

Unionhawk

6:01 PM

the value of good is subjective anyway

@Ash Yeah, most places do

There are only a handful of earch-sandwichable areas

puzzlepiece87

@Unionhawk I'm okay with him being promotional and maybe not always choosing the most effective solutions because I feel like he's trying really hard and legitimately wants the best for people :)

Hopefully he improves on his solution effectiveness

Kind of hard to be elected without promoting yourself

user15026

@Unionhawk That feels surprising to me but I am bad at these things

Unionhawk

@Ash the ocean is big

Most of North America ends up in the south pacific

Iirc

Or whatever

Is that the Indian ocean?

@puzzlepiece87 he does meet a minimum baseline of "cosponsors S.1804" so

and probably "supports reproductive healthcare"

so there is that

necessary but not sufficient criteria though, Franken is also both of those things

puzzlepiece87

I'm happy with lots of his bill sponsoring yup

Medicare for all, marijuana decriminalization, justice reform, supports PP

Opposed racist elves

Would probably vote for reparations

And then I like his other stuff too

living in public housing, rescues from burning buildings, responding to Twitter requests for city resources to help with driveway shoveling by doing it himself

tweeting as he walked so residents could catch him and talk

Unionhawk

7:13 PM

CANCELLATIONS FOR FRIDAY ARE ROLLING IN

HELL YEAH

Gorchestopher H

Can anyone comment on why Zuckerberg had to do the capital hill thing?

murgatroid99

@GorchestopherH because Congress wanted to gather information related to recent events that Facebook was involved in

Gorchestopher H

7:30 PM

@murgatroid99 Does having Zuckerberg "testify" accomplish that in any way? Also, in his testimony he basically "admits wrongdoing", but from what I can tell, Facebook was just doing exactly what it's user agreement says it does.

Tim Stone

Sure sounds like things are about to go down in Missouri. https://www.news-leader.com/story/news/politics/2018/04/11/release-greitens-report-house-committee-release-report-into-gov-greitens-today-investigation-continu/506703002/

Tweeted by mattdpearce on April 11, 2018 at 7:28 PM

Unionhawk

user agreements are bullshit tbh

every tech company knows they can put literally anything they want in there because every user is just going to lie when they say they read it

it's not an effective means of conveying anything to the user

I don't know what the solution is mind you

Gorchestopher H

@Unionhawk Although, it's well established how Facebook handles info...

Tim Stone

The point of Congressional testimony is usually to determine the basis for new or modified legislation, anyway

Gorchestopher H

Seems pretty nebulous and nearly impossible to actually control.

Will new legislation meant that I won't receive targeted ads anymore? I doubt it...

murgatroid99

7:39 PM

The issues with Facebook recently were never about targeted advertising in general

Gorchestopher H

isn't it essentially the same thing?

it conducts market research, shows you what you've indicated you want/like

sells that info to whomever

murgatroid99

The issues were about oversharing of information with third-party companies, fake news, campaign finance issues, and to some extent the possibility of hyper-targeted advertising to advertise to specific people

Unionhawk

There's an entire separate complaint from the national fair housing association but that's another issue

murgatroid99

The big issue with Cambridge Analytica was not that people were choosing to share information with them, but that Facebook was sharing information about people that those people never agreed to share with them

Unionhawk

I'm excited for that, since with any luck both Facebook and landlords who advertise there will get owned

Gorchestopher H

7:44 PM

The concept of "over-sharing" and "hyper-targeting" seems to insinuate that there's a limit to how "targeted" something can be, or how shared something is. If it's shared, it's out there, doesn't matter whom you share it with, they can share it with someone else too.

I realize that people are just recently becoming upset now because they think they got tricked into voting for Trump, but this is how facebook was set up for years.

murgatroid99

The question is not whether there is a limit to how targeted something can be but whether there should be. And similarly, there are questions about how Facebook should be sharing your information

In the particular case with Cambridge Analytica, Facebook was sharing information with them that people had not explicitly shared publicly and had not given permission to be shared with third parties

that's just obviously not OK

Gorchestopher H

so none of those people who were "computerized" had never posted things that "friends of friends" could see?

Unionhawk

afaik, "Cambridge Analytica" likely does not qualify as a "friend of friends"

murgatroid99

I don't think we have that much detail. But Facebook and other companies generally make a distinction between sharing information with other individuals, and sharing information in aggregate with companies for research or whatever

So there's just a general expectation that people cannot give permission for Facebook to give their friends' information to companies

Tim Stone

Plus "the thing has been happening for a while" isn't automatically an argument that nothing should now be done about it. Whether anything will be and whether it would be effective is a whole other issue, but

Gorchestopher H

7:51 PM

haha... I meant to say "compromised" not "computerized"

murgatroid99

And this event made it publicly known and clear how Facebook handles user data, which is what triggered Congress looking into doing something about it

Gorchestopher H

frankly, Facebook should have been forced by it's user base to modify it's terms of use, data ownership policy, and the way it operates in general

forced by means of not using facebook if you don't like it

Unionhawk

the problem is Facebook is way too convenient for organizing

and I do say problem

but promoting public events across a wide area is way too easy on facebook

Gorchestopher H

any other site could have taken it's place if the general public actually cared about data usage and ownership

murgatroid99

@GorchestopherH First, that's pretty much exactly what the "delete Facebook" thing is about, and second, I think you vastly overestimate the degree to which Facebook users would organize around a single issue to the extent that Facebook would actually need to change things

Gorchestopher H

7:55 PM

@murgatroid99 This was an issue since day 1

when signing up for facebook it was a big deal, anything you did on facebook was owned by facebook, and everyone knew it

murgatroid99

@GorchestopherH This is why we have regulations. Exactly because individuals can't or won't take concerted action on issues like this

Gorchestopher H

no one must have realized what that actually means

the only reason anyone cares about this, is because somehow the United States elected Donald Trump

it never mattered when cell phone providers offered "Facebook only" data packages

murgatroid99

@GorchestopherH They have a privacy policy, and it's not just "we will arbitrarily share everything with anyone we want".

@GorchestopherH I don't really see how that's relevant. That's a net neutrality issue, which is a completely separate thing

Gorchestopher H

I'm saying Facebook does a lot of wrong things, and it has, since the beginning

murgatroid99

what's your point?

Unionhawk

7:59 PM

yep

Gorchestopher H

no point, just trying to figure out what is actually going on with this, because I certainly can't follow the news

Unionhawk

facebook is extremely bad, which is why it's unfortunately great for organizing

Gorchestopher H

my first reaction to this debacle was "So... we know Facebook does this, what's the big deal?"

but apparently this is about coming up with a set of regulations

I thought they were getting sued or something

Unionhawk

as far as free optons go

Gorchestopher H

"free" in terms of dollars

Unionhawk

8:01 PM

Yes as it turns out dollars is our most scarce resource as an org

Gorchestopher H

you pay with your personal information, profiling data, and marketing opportunity

Unionhawk

Oh believe me, we all know very much about the personal information bit of this

Gorchestopher H

I wonder if we'll see President Oprah within a year, or if it'll go full term

murgatroid99

There is literally 0 chance of President Oprah before 2021

And epsilon chance after that

There aren't special elections for the president, there's a line of succession

Unionhawk

here's how Oprah can become president:

(1: oprah is confirmed as Sec State, somehow) (lol)

murgatroid99

8:09 PM

I was going to go with "Designated Survivor scenario, Oprah gets elected to the House and becomes speaker, president (and VP, if confirmed) both die in entirely not suspicious accidents"

Gorchestopher H

if enough college students vote maybe you guys can have President Kardashian

Unionhawk

Please, Donald Trump isn't going to be president that long, did you see how many subpoenas Mueller asked for

he's toast

we got him

mission accomplished

Gorchestopher H

I wonder if Martha Stewart would run

Unionhawk

We're going to have president clinton by 2019

it's happening

the fan fiction is coming true

Gorchestopher H

@murgatroid99 Oh man, Justice Fieri would be epic

murgatroid99

8:15 PM

I'm still hoping for the double juggalo presidency with Supreme Court Justice Guy Fieri

Gorchestopher H

@Unionhawk A republican was going to win the Trump election regardless. You can't follow 8 years of liberal president with a more liberal president.

murgatroid99

@GorchestopherH I think it's a stretch to say that Hillary Clinton was more liberal than Barack Obama

Unionhawk

they're about exactly the same honestly

pretty close

some minor differences

so idk what you're talking about lol

murgatroid99

Please use stars only for news

5

Maybe I should pin that again. The previous pin seems to have disappeared

Unionhawk

pins fall after 14 days so probably

Gorchestopher H

8:22 PM

@murgatroid99 Maybe it just looked that way, because of the debate topics.

Unionhawk

I think your analysis of the country as a reactionary sinusoid is... depressingly close though... A lot of people just flat out didn't vote though

Gorchestopher H

Perhaps in reality she is less liberal than Obama, but it's almost like she moved further left to "fit in".

Unionhawk

She dismissed single payer as an impossible goal that will never ever happen and tried to negotiate fight for 15 down to 12.50, no

murgatroid99

I thought her stated policy plans were relatively standard liberal-centrist fare

Unionhawk

yeah, just, better skills for better jobs type stuff, nothing revolutionary

she had some variety of higher education plan which iirc was also highly reformist

I forget the details of that exactly

Gorchestopher H

8:27 PM

I know Americans don't like the idea of it, but health care really needs to be handled by a nation as a whole

Unionhawk

welcome to DSA

Gorchestopher H

I'm pretty right leaning...., but I think it's insane that a citizen of a 1st world nation can't get healthcare

Unionhawk

yep

Gorchestopher H

but I do think you need police officers, and I'm against censorship

Unionhawk

agree to disagree, and I love that the implication here is that I am for censorship

respectively

12 things to do instead of calling the cops

murgatroid99

8:34 PM

1. Just let yourself get murdered

Gorchestopher H

obviously saying I'm against censorship is a little broad... because obviously it has a place, but I don't think people need to rename schools that have "Jefferson" in it

Tim Stone

In MO, state House Rs are being briefed on a committee’s findings re: Gov. Greitens and an ex lover. Many lawmakers have been too embarrassed to describe the graphic details. “This is a bad deal,” said one. “I didn’t want to hear what I heard.” Report goes public soon.

Tweeted by rebeccagberg on April 11, 2018 at 8:33 PM

Unionhawk

@murgatroid99 Your intentional exaggeration of the average police call is noted

and of what that document actually suggests

:)

Tim Stone

Gonna take a guess and say he's deeeefinitely going to jail

Unionhawk

I forget what did the MO governor do

or is this one that we don't know right now

other than "it's bad"

Tim Stone

8:38 PM

Mm he had a mistress and he threatened her with revenge porn but I need to confirm the specifics again

Since this is a shockingly common issue lately and I might be getting confused

Unionhawk

Yeah I wasn't certain if this was him or another governor

Tim Stone

We'll certainly know shortly though once the report is released

murgatroid99

@Unionhawk I didn't actually read the document before saying that. But point 1 is basically "just let your stuff get stolen (if nobody is getting physically hurt)"

Unionhawk

I don't see any implied "your" in there, especially with "especially corporate"

but ok

murgatroid99

"especially X" means "not exclusively X"

Unionhawk

8:42 PM

you have my permission to defend your property

murgatroid99

The fact that they put "'private' property" and "theft" are in scare quotes there implies that other biases are significantly impacting their advice

Tim Stone

BREAKING: Trump administration considering plan that would allow states to require drug testing for some food stamp recipients

Tweeted by AP_Politics on April 11, 2018 at 8:10 PM

I feel like we already went over this so not entirely sure that "BREAKING" is appropriate, but okay AP

Please keep in mind that Larry Kudlow, who Trump just hired, used to do like $100,000 of cocaine a month but nbd

Unionhawk

@murgatroid99 other biases like "being anarchists" yes

murgatroid99

"We don't like companies anyway, so we'll tell people that it's OK to just let people steal from them"

Sorry, entirely separate question: how the hell is this booklet thing supposed to be put together to put everything in order

Unionhawk

I used the readable link so idk

murgatroid99

8:50 PM

oh, I get it now

Unionhawk

Aha, yeah, I think it just works out printing duplex

murgatroid99

9:02 PM

Anyway, most of that document actually seems reasonable, though I have issues with points 1 (theft), 7 (police community outreach stuff), and 12 (domestic violence)

And the overall premise of "strong communities make police obsolete" implies that we live in some sort of altruistic utopia where violent crime never happens

user15026

I feel like 12 is kinda...not the best response

user15026

But I am not sure what a better one is

Unionhawk

Sure, dv is complex I'll give you that

Tim Stone

Yeah, it's hard because in the majority of cases I suspect the police can't do anything except talk to the abuser, because they aren't in process of doing the abusing, so it only serves as a point of agitation/making the abuser feel cornered, which could provoke more serious responses

SCOOP: @EPAScottPruitt wanted to order all manner of @EPA swag — including challenge coins, fancy fountain pens & leather-bound notebooks — with his name featured prominently, but without the EPA seal, which he thought looked like a marijuana leaf. https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/11/climate/pruitt-epa-challenge-coin.html

Tweeted by kenvogel on April 11, 2018 at 8:56 PM

The dumbest of timelines