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1:40 AM
there is both a written transcript and the video
weird consent issues raised in this
> Anderson Cooper: You were 27, he was 60. Were you physically attracted to him?

Stormy Daniels: No.

Anderson Cooper: Not at all?

Stormy Daniels: No.

Anderson Cooper: Did you want to have sex with him?

Stormy Daniels: No. But I didn't-- I didn't say no. I'm not a victim, I'm not--

Anderson Cooper: It was entirely consensual.

Stormy Daniels: Oh, yes, yes.
:/
 
@GodEmperorDune well is spanking someone with a magazine which pictures there face considered sex?
 
user15026
@GodEmperorDune Eeeergh, this is a tough line :/
 
@Ash yessssssss
 
user15026
Because want and consent can be different
 
lol, it actually just popped up in my RSS
Five takeaways from Stormy Daniels’ big interview http://hill.cm/bMR3GRo
 
user15026
1:46 AM
the whole thing is so mad gross
 
@Ash 100000000000000000000%
 
1:58 AM
> [Stormy Daniels] said she stayed in contact with Trump after the encounter because "I thought of it as a business deal," as the tycoon had said he would try to get her on "The Apprentice," the reality TV show he hosted at the time.
#BREAKING: Porn star Stormy Daniels details alleged fling with Trump https://bit.ly/2ugqWE9
so, have sex with me and i'll try and get you on my TV Show.......do we have a Godwin's Law for Harvey Weinstein yet?
 
stormy daniel's lawyer is a slippery one
 
@GodEmperorDune how do you mean?
 
@Memor-X during the interview, he slides out of answering questions very easily
> Anderson Cooper: You seem to be saying that she has some sort of text message, or video, or-- or photographs. Or you could just be bluffing.

Michael Avenatti: You should ask some of the other people in my career when they've bet on me bluffing.

Anderson Cooper: In college and law school, you did opposition research for Democratic political operative Rahm Emanuel. Some people looking at that would say you're politically motivated,

Michael Avenatti: I haven't done anything in politics in over 20 years.
its a nonanswer but a very skillful one
doesn't say yes or no, doesn't dispute it, just states a similar fact
it also doesn't come off as preposterous like when fox pundits or white house staff try it
as context, here is an untrained person doing the same thing
> What was also required under the non-disclosure agreement was for Stormy Daniels to turn over all "video images, still images, email messages, and text messages," she had regarding Mr. Trump.

Anderson Cooper: Did you do that?

Stormy Daniels: I can't answer that right now.

Anderson Cooper: You don't want to say one way or the other if you have text messages or other items?

Stormy Daniels: My attorney has recommended that I don't discuss those things.
its blunt and sticks out as a "why didn't you answer"
 
@GodEmperorDune for a moment i thought you was going to post a quote from Trump's lawyer
 
@Memor-X nah he does more flat denials
and lying can get you in trouble
not answering keeps you safe
its also one thing to lie to a newspaper/media company/other person in a business deal. Those are shady but not necessarily illegal. Lying to federal investigators is illegal though, as a lot of trump campaign people in the mueller investigation found out
 
2:18 AM
yeh, i was actually just imagining it but done with the voices of Dylan Moran
(Bernard Black) and Bill Bailey (Manny Bianco) from *Black Books*
> Manny: Bernard, did you pay Fran 130,000 pound to keep quite about thw two of you having sex
Bernard: no, ofcause not, don't be stupid.......ok yes i have her the money but it wasn't about sex or anything
Manny: so why did you give her the money
Bernard: no reason
Manny: you gave her 130,000 for no reason
Bernard: yes.......oh ok it was because we had sex
@GodEmperorDune could be starting to think everyone in that was lying including the lawyer
 
 
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3:24 AM
fucking finally there is a successful prosecution
 
3:42 AM
Obama says he wants to create "a million young Barack Obamas" http://hill.cm/TWF5lRr
i get this feeling that the image was taken when someone asked "how to you plan on doing that" to which Obama replied "how do you think"
 
This sums up some of what I was feeling around the consent thing I posted earlier
Daniels says she's not a victim but her saying she "deserved" to have to have sex with Trump because "you put yourself in a bad situation and bad things happen" -- that is the kind of patriarchal thinking #metoo exists to combat.
I agree that consent and want are two different things but enthusiastic consent makes the want a necessary part of the consent
 
user15026
I am not disagreeing with you
 
user15026
I never was.
 
3:58 AM
@GodEmperorDune urg, i really hope that view she has didn't come from her career
 
@Ash sorry, didn't mean to imply that
i felt you were adding nuance
sometimes i am very bad at blazing past nuance
 
@GodEmperorDune to be fair, tone is already difficult on the internet
 
 
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11:47 AM
I fucking hate /r/canada
Time to find an another subreddit to act as a Canadian news feed
That entire thread is one giant "Fuck women and fuck feminism" thread
> This guy has no shame whatsoever. Also, why should I vote Liberal? As a man, why do I benefit from closing the wage gap or trying to get women into certain positions for diversity initiatives. This makes my life harder.
> Nope, his party is anti-male
> I'm regaining my faith in Canadian men. Of course men shouldn't vote for someone who blatantly discriminates against their gender.
> Fucking soyboy. Most embarrassing Prime Minister ever.
Man fuck everyone
If you think the Liberals are anti-men you're a piece of shit, that's all there is to it
I can't even begin to think what's anti-men about their party
Unless you view equality anti-men
which well yeah that's exactly what it is
 
@Wipqozn yes. People are the worst.
 
 
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1:06 PM
girls always love to telling people not to" Mansplain" but they do not care of, "Man's Pain"
makes u think
also, one week left on the OK teachers association's deadline
YOU GOT A WEEK, THE STATE LEGISLATURE
 
@Unionhawk Honestly I found the "has no shame" thing ironic, because the commentor obviously has no shame
"Why should I care about helping other people?"
 
1:23 PM
meanwhile:
Asked a buddy who went to the gun march to send photos of any signs that said anything like “NRA—National Russia Association.” Sure enough:
 
1:35 PM
like the one that added (of evil) at the bottom just to be sure
 
1:48 PM
both the DSA and NRA are russia funded
it's true
 
wait hold up a minute
 
horseshoe theory is real
 
the Deputy Sheriff's Association is a Russian plant?? I knew it
 
@Unionhawk New Yaussian Axis
 
@Unionhawk Toys 'Я' Us closing? makes u think 🤔
 
2:19 PM
TIL Santorum thinks Red vs. Blue is real life.
 
"It's a sort of...blue, fuzzy, pulsing thing"
 
"Is it a blue spider? Get it off!"
 
"It might be dangerou-"
 
I haven't watched RvB in years but I still remember that scene.
 
hahahaha
 
2:21 PM
(and use "beat him to death with his own skull" and "your [noun] is a cavern of lies" on the regular)
(the latter usually when talking to the cats)
 
@ToxicFrog I love that bit
LadyWacko and I started rewatching that again
Nothing beats the first episode, though
"Why are we here?"
 
Yes :D
I wonder if any (or all) of my partners would be down for a nostalgia-fuelled RvB marathon at some point.
symbol and I are already planning to watch the Alien films at some point, since she's only seen the first one and that a very long time ago, and me playing A:I has her curious
 
I wonder Santorum would treat stab wounds by rubbing people's necks down with aloe vera?
 
yeah I love this because like
CPR if you haven't managed severe bleeding is uhh
 
@ToxicFrog Yeah, I've been wondering if DameWacko would like it too
Although we're watching The Magicians right now
 
2:31 PM
@SaintWacko How is it?
Is it that one Netflix series that's like "Hogwarts but with older young adults"?
 
@Yuuki omgwtfbbq
It's really fucking good
@Yuuki Yes, but it's very much aimed at adults
Very, very much
It's weird, but really, really good
Also their magic feels like how much should feel
It's like D&D magic
Verbal, somatic, and material componenets
 
Eh, Harry Potter has those if you consider that the wand counts as an arcane focus.
Later in the series, they introduce the Silent Spell feat.
 
@SaintWacko I don't think The Magicians is something I'd enjoy, but I've heard it's really good.
 
@ToxicFrog It's definitely not for everyone. There's a lot of sex and violence and weirdness
 
And many, many trigger warnings should be included
 
2:38 PM
@KevinvanderVelden YES
 
@SaintWacko it's more that it was pitched to me as "Harry Potter if everyone involved was a realistically awful human being and everything sucks forever"
And like
I get enough of that by staring into the nightmare rectangle
This is a year for reading/watching comfort food
 
@ToxicFrog Pretty much, although there's a lot beauty in it too
 
There's a reason I've been reading a lot of Bard Bloom this year.
 
@ToxicFrog I mean, Snape was a realistically awful human being with the exception of an attempt at redemption which was somewhat undercut by how much of a jerk and somewhat creep that he continued to be.
"I am so full of regret that I basically caused the death of my childhood friend and love, so I'll totally treat her kid like s--t because he looks like the jock that stole her away from me."
 
@Yuuki right, but what if everyone was Snape
 
2:45 PM
@ToxicFrog Sounds like the characterization in the average Harry Potter fanfic.
 
I've never read any HP fanfic, so
But my point is, this does not sound appealing
 
@ToxicFrog Like all fanfiction, there's a number of good ones, there's a number of somewhat chauvinistic power fantasy ones, there's a number of "creating relationships out of whole cloth" ones, and there's a lot of willful misinterpretation of canon characterization.
There's a surprising amount of "hey, Dumbledore is actually a secret Dark Lord masterminding the entire plot in order to take over the world".
Which is like... Dumbledore's entire storyline is revealed to be that he almost turned into a BBEG but flinched when he looked in the mirror.
 
I've read one HP fanfic
It was a fanfic version of the last book written by someone who got tired of waiting for the last book and so wrote their own
I like it at least as much as the real thing
 
My issue with a lot of HP fanfic is that they try to make things... more. Like "the power he knows not" is inevitably some kind of actual ancient magic power fantasy thing or that "The Master of Death" is an actual thing with relevant powers (although that stuff is actually kind of amusing in crossovers when done correctly).
When in the end, "the power he knows not" is just love and the ability to care for other people and the Deathly Hallows are likely just especially powerful magical artifacts and you don't become a literal god by collecting all the Pokemon three.
Sometimes, I like it when things are understated and there's no world-changing reveal or plot development. Like the recent Doctor Who Christmas special. There was no "actually, the Doctor didn't kill everyone in the Time War" and it was relatively low stakes.
 
3:03 PM
Yeah, I've been reading relatively low-stakes warm and cozy stuff a lot recently and it's great.
 
@quartata Thanks for going, I went too.
 
i suspect a good percentage of this room went
at the very least I heard some muttering that Uni's DSA chapter was helping organize their local one
 
I mean, a lot of us aren't in america
 
I wasn't there, but we handed out flyers within the crowd
 
sorry, I'm only counting true Apple Blueberry Crisp MURICANS among this room's population
 
3:15 PM
We certainly didn't organize the thing
it was mainly organized by local United We Stand and students
 
ok right flyers
still, good
 
mainly students, UWS just did fundraising for protection from the police
ten thousand dollars to gather in public
hell yeah
totally not a protection racket
 
we had a lot of police directing traffic down here too. I'd like to think they're largely sympathetic but I'm sure non-trivial money had to be coughed up anyways
10k is ridiculous
can't even envision that
 
part of that was parade permit
 
@Unionhawk Mine too, I'll take the UK system
@MadScientist Even compared to the US military fighting in actual combat zones the US police are especially trigger happy
 
3:19 PM
@Unionhawk wait, how much was the permit do you know?
 
Seriously, if the US police used the same use-of-force guidelines that even the US military does it would be a massive improvement.
 
I don't, I have merely heard secondhand what the fundraising goal overall was
It's still just, paying for permission to gather in a public space, hell yeah
 
i think it just pisses them off to have to block streets
 
I don't even think the alternative route was even bad
 
but meanwhile a band can set up in one spot and blare bass all night for $150. thanks
 
3:23 PM
@Memor-X Narrator: It was a custom-printed fake, he did not actually appear in said magazine.
 
@puzzlepiece87 Reminds of that one John Oliver bit on police militarization where the military guy appeared on CNN and talked about escalation of force.
 
 
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5:46 PM
BREAKING: More footage from #Saudi tonight. This one seems to confirm my last tweet. American Patriot air defence missile seems to fail and crash in a residential area inside Riyadh. https://t.co/ERRLbP2uyF
holy shit
 
 
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6:51 PM
opens Twitter
stares
closes Twitter
 
7:02 PM
@TimStone evergreen tho
 
True
 
@Unionhawk Oh dang, I saw that video this morning, but I didn't realize it was recent
 
yeah apparently Saudi accidentally shot a missile at themselves yesterday or so
or something like that
 
That wasn't just a failure and crash, either
That thing dove under power
 
@Unionhawk The Houthis fired something at Riyadh, but the question of whether people died from what was fired or the failed interception is the issue at hand
Haven’t analyzed all the videos yet, but it looks like one interceptor failed catastrophically (left) and another pulled a u-turn and exploded in Riyadh (right). Not a good day for Saudi missile defenses.
 
7:22 PM
@Unionhawk Hoo boy, "American Patriot air defense missile".
 
that's what the saudis get for doing BDS and not using an iron dome
smh
 
This is totally going to not start any hubbub whatsoever.
 
I know it's not a literal iron dome, but can you image what it would sound like with missiles hitting an actual iron dome
I'll bet the whole thing would ring like a bell
 
@SaintWacko I was curious if this could cause damage so I searched and the results included a medical article about something that was very much not what I was talking about
 
8:18 PM
There are "people" (at least one account, unconfirmed if it's a bot or not because I ain't looking that up) that are trying to rebrand the color red as being about trump
 
8:31 PM
@KevinvanderVelden whyyyyyyyy
 
Red is actually socialism, maga hats are socialist sry
 
Even after it being pointed out that err no this is from '08
 
And also red is our color and we're taking it back
 
@KevinvanderVelden Like 76% sure this is trolling.
 
Poes law etc
 
8:39 PM
But you can't really tell anymore after 2016, I guess.
 
9:02 PM
@KevinvanderVelden ^
 
9:31 PM
I'm not sure where the right place to put this is, but recent news makes me at the very least not annoyed/angry that Monte is no longer part of the LoL scene.
Sucks for you guys following the OWL though.
cc @Unionhawk
 
@puzzlepiece87 oh was it that times magazine? or did he get another fake made up for a just-in-case situation where he could get someone to spank him with it
 
@Memor-X Oh, I wasn't speaking literally of this instance - I don't make time to read the grimy stories/twitter because I value my sanity. Just that he's done that in the past and, in the "this is the darkest timeline/not literal" sense, he certainly used such a magazine in this instance because how else could it be worse?
 
9:49 PM
@puzzlepiece87 how else could it be worse? hmmmmm
> "You look my daughter" Trump said with his clothes at his ankles before turning around and bending over "now spank me with this magazine i had printed just for this and tell me how much of a bad boy i've been"
 
@Memor-X I look forward to your bright flash of fame as 50 Shades of Trump book/movie deal takes off. Fanfiction Hatefiction going places!
 
@puzzlepiece87 i feel like we have made fun of 50 shades of orange before
 
@GodEmperorDune I wouldn't be surprised.
 
@puzzlepiece87 well the working title is 5 Shades of Trump because every 5 words i have to use his name to keep him reading
 
@Memor-X You better hire an illustrator.
 
9:56 PM
@GodEmperorDune Orange is the New Black, which incidentally still describes him in a suit
 
@puzzlepiece87 no one needs those visuals tho
 
@GodEmperorDune Now in Hardcover, Softcover, and words-only Minimal.
@GodEmperorDune Purchase the collector's edition for concept art that didn't make the final cut! Also included is an official 5 Shades of Trump soundtrack featuring Russian recordings of the events depicted in the Steele dossier.
 
Senate Passes SESTA, Controversial 'Anti-Sex Trafficking' Bill That Could Ruin the Internet and Harm Sex Workers https://buff.ly/2G1ARi8
dems are so bad on kneejerk reactions to sex workers
but yeah this is another bad bill in congress
 
@GodEmperorDune I've found that's been an issue with left-wing in general, not just Democrats.
It's cultural, really.
 
@Yuuki yeah, one of the feminist waves really messed up on this
the same wave that got upset with #metoo because the next generation didn't have it tough enough or some crap
 
10:07 PM
I mean, it kinda makes sense if you assume the same distorted view of sex workers that they have. And it's true that the sex industry does have a lot of horror stories for women. But even so, the solution is not to attack the sex worker but rather the conditions that created said horror stories.
 
@Yuuki fully agreed
 
Arguably, the sex industry's quasi-legal/let's-ignore-this-because-of-cultural-mores status has caused a lot of problems that might not exist if people were more open about sex.
 
> conspiracy to commit pimping
 
10:29 PM
Overheard: 7yo: What's privilege? 5yo: I think it's when some ppl can eat candy every day. They don't have to even ask. They get it. And some people can't get any even if they ask nicely. 7yo: that is... so sad. 5yo: SO sad #MindBlown
 
LIBRARY STUFF
 
@Unionhawk praxistheme.mp3
 
#BREAKING: White House lawyers investigating loans to Kushner family business http://hill.cm/N0xe8kI
lol
 
Facebook collected users' phone call, text message data: report http://hill.cm/gYxWvYn
 
@TimStone RIP javanka
@Memor-X this is the android phone thing?
 
10:42 PM
@GodEmperorDune think so
i expect next we're learn that they really were listening though the microphone on phones and doing ad placement based from that like everyone suspected
 
@GodEmperorDune I mean the rest of them are not familiar with consequence so I kinda understand how they can be that incompetent at being evil but Jared's dad literally went to prison smh
 
@TimStone tbh i think these guys are all jealous of jared's dad. they threaten wildly but don't follow through but jared's dad actually went through with the bonkers idea
 
I do like that he gets to feel extra bad he was put away by someone Trump forced to eat meatloaf
So I did it, Merkle Town is now available at https://merkle.town. HT @konklone for reminding me about the .town TLD.
Heh
But also who the hell has RSA-MD2 certs out there still?! My word
 
many comrades but idk how many members of the public at large are here
 
why does google have 4 kinds of certs?
oh those are cert servers?
 
10:56 PM
 
@GodEmperorDune They're certificate transparency logs
I don't know the functional reason for Google having so many though
 
@Chippies oh so that's what this meant
 
11:13 PM
lol
 
@Chippies stop dunking on the french jeez
 
@quartata don't hate the messenger :P
 
endorsing the library levy from a critical angle indicating that we know funding is needed and we will hold the board accountable; director should lose her job
want to oraganize the workers
make the board more accountable to patrons and workers
 
Update: Driver of the Uber stair car says he was using the Uber app, which he says directed him down the stairs.
 
11:30 PM
@TimStone rekt
@TimStone also the office scene linked in the replies is perfect
 
More details from scene of #Uberstairs incident via @@KatieCanales1 - A tow truck was above the steps and used a wire to try to lower the car down the steps but the wire snapped and the car plowed into the green trash can.
lol
@GodEmperorDune On the plus side the driver didn't hit anyone so technically a win for them ._.
 
@TimStone another 13 miles without an incident
 
Anyone not see this coming? Anyone? https://kotaku.com/of-course-people-are-using-kfcs-new-twitch-emote-for-ra-1824089473/amp?__twitter_impression=true
:|
 
@Unionhawk yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah
 

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