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9:02 AM
How on Earth has this had +2? I actually sarcrificed my multiple of 5 cos of it
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A: Are there any real-life parallels to the Night's Watch?

Michael W.This is pretty different from all of the other examples, but I thought I would throw this out here: The Aztec practice of human sacrifice. While the majority of adults sacrifices are thought to have been warriors captured in battle, the children sacrificed are thought to have been primarily noble...

 
@amflare Just like the Night's Watch, it's an institution which had a very important function in society and thus also was held in great esteem, but it acquired a stigma as its function degraded. +1 for an excellent example "out of left field". — errantlinguist 15 hours ago
 
Oh yeah I read that so daft
 
Why do people create so many tags =.=
 
Then the user that comments on my answer is like no you're Word of God is not good enough but this random speculation is awesome!!!
 
Guess it's tag cleanup time
 
9:05 AM
What now?
 
I did see that
It's the HNQ they do love their speculation
 
@TheLethalCarrot And shit answers, *cough* gate *cough*
 
Hahaha
Even with the odd HNQ voters I still don't understand how it got +200
Maybe I need to start putting less effort into some answers
 
Ok I won't add a pass-ag comment
Less effort:
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A: What was the Valar's ancient error?

EdlothiadD, none of the above The ancient error is touched on slightly earlier in the chapter, clarifying that they mean appearing in forms of majesty amongst the Children of Iluvatar as opposed to using secrecy (the Istari) And this the Valar did, desiring to amend the errors of old, especially that...

get source novel, ctrl + f line in question, scroll up one page, copy paste text, post.
 
9:10 AM
Well that's the OP less effort, you didn't really need to do much more than that
 
Well I could explain what the ancient error was and find quotes for it etc, but you know my moto.
, NOOOOOOOPE. nooooooooope
 
Well they are crap tags haha
 
JAD
@TheLethalCarrot Uh, I guess with an extremely narrow scope of the question sure.
The OP seems to only be interested in the "Used to be respected, but no more" aspect
And I guess there are some parallels there. But none other whatsoever
 
I didn't really read their mountain of text
The title had enough information for me
 
Lol
Has anyone actually read the full body of the question?
@TheLethalCarrot I love imparting my will on which tags get to exist and which don't
 
JAD
9:14 AM
> are/were there any real-life institutions/orders/traditions which originally served a highly-respected function to everyone but became stigmatized over time to everyone except for a certain subculture and yet continued to exist for a long time†?
 
Well a lot of tags are crap
 
JAD
it's in bold, youknow
 
That much bold gives no emphasis and makes it harder to read in my opinion
 
You know what was in the title? "Things similar to the NW" and that's how I'm setting my criteria
 
I didn't even set it at that, I went straight in with his actual influences
Who cares what someone thinks now could have influenced him when he's commented on what actually influenced him
 
9:16 AM
@TheLethalCarrot ... yeeeeeeee, no
 
That was actually a tag? oh dear
 
JAD
Listen, I'm not saying your answer is incorrect, it's just not an answer to the question that was asked
 
Still a useless tag,
@JAD GET YOUR FLAGS BOYS!
 
@JAD Well I could add a massive section explaining the similarities but I don't see the point myself
 
9:19 AM
Lol
I actually thought it was completely random but at least it's a meta tag for that Q
 
Front page is just me removing useless tags
 
There's nothing else going on at the moment so might as well
 
JAD
@Edlothiad meh, cbb'ed, I'm just saying that that answer is dumb, mostly is because the question is dumb, as that answer does answer the question.
 
They're all dumb, flags out for Harambe
 
Woop came in 2nd for the monght :)
 
9:22 AM
provenedness = proven to be able to carry out the task.
 
That's what I've said from the beginning
 
I know, I support your case. It's why I'm so worried about amflare getting 20k, we all know how unreasonable he can be and he'll have delete privs...
Or when he reaches 25k and gets site analytics, who knows what he'll get up to then!
 
@TheLethalCarrot dude, if even aztecs sacrifice can be speculatively related to NW (and upvoted), no wonder why Word of God answer have upvotes
 
Wait you're saying that WoG shouldn't be upvoted
 
@Edlothiad Damn! He'll know all our private data! :P
 
JAD
9:32 AM
@Edlothiad triggered
 
no, i mean that as some people upvote everything, including random answer, it's normal that they also upvote in mass good answers
 
@TheLethalCarrot If that's what you think site analytics is you're in for some serious disappointment.
 
@Edlothiad I know site analytics is pointless, in my opinion anyway
 
It's interesting to find historical site events, like the Futurama day, but that's about it.
 
So not at all then really :P
 
9:34 AM
Ye nah it's pointless...
 
Lol
I only want 20k for delete privs then I don't care anymore
 
Or the other thing that's been discovered is that a sports site was one of our top 25 traffic providers
 
Quidditch?
 
38k for first page of rep, 100k for swag, y'know, the little things
@TheLethalCarrot Let me find it
 
@Edlothiad Aye, I'm at 80th at the moment which isn't too bad :)
 
9:36 AM
So halfway there...
No it's 36 per page, (which is bloody strange)
 
9:49 AM
Now is the slow slog through the bigger gaps though
 
I was unable to read the fourth word as slow, I kept reading it as show and it made no sense to me...
 
Hahaha
try saying "slow slog" a few times it's quite hard
 
Nah, I've got a highly skilled tongue ;)
 
that's what she said
 
9:52 AM
@Kepotx I know what you meant to say, but it's not what you said, haha!
 
i wonder if the fact that robbert fought and win 3 battles in the same days is historically acurate, would it be off-topic to ask-it in history SE as it's fantasy-related ?
 
Most of the gaps in the top 40-15 range are a month at most, then from 16-15 it's 11k rep... That's like 3 months
@Kepotx @Aegon would know. But I'd guess it's on-topic, you're asking if such thing has happened before
 
the thing is, we dont have lot of details about how big armies where
 
@Edlothiad Yeah if I keep up rank 2 I'll easily get high in the ranks but I've slowed down massively
 
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9:55 AM
i mean, battle like hastings would last longer than some small skirmish
 
Yeah it all depends on how big the armies are, locations of battle, type of battle, who commanders are etc.
 
@TheLethalCarrot The monthly rankings for everyone but Valorum depend on what content is asked, if HP is active, Bella is second, if LotR is asked (or star wars or questions I can google) i'm usually higher up and if it's whatever stuff you know you're in second
I reckon I could've beaten you last month, had I been active through the entire month as opposed to just the latter 2/3s
 
it also depends of what happen after the battle, how long you follow the routing ennemy...
 
@Edlothiad Yeah and I was only really active for the first half
 
but still, three battle in the same day seems a lot to me
 
9:57 AM
@TheLethalCarrot "active" = 50 answers in 10 days? lol
 
@Edlothiad Well I forget how much I post sometimes :P
 
Paha!
 
10:16 AM
@Edlothiad None in which one belligerent fought off three different belligerents in one day come to mind. That too with 100% success rate
 
There are some where there were multiple battles on the same day but they were between two same belligerents and that too, with mixed results
 
God censoring that was hard
 
Saw it yesterday, couldn't be bothered to use my amazing paint skills to censor it haha
 
Found one
The Battle of the Alma (20 September 1854), which is usually considered the first battle of the Crimean War (1853–1856), took place just south of the River Alma in the Crimea. An Anglo-French force under Jacques Leroy de Saint Arnaud and FitzRoy Somerset, 1st Baron Raglan defeated General Aleksandr Sergeyevich Menshikov's Russian army, which suffered around 6,000 casualties. == Prelude == The Anglo-French forces landed on the western coast of the Crimean peninsula some 35 miles (56 km) north of Sevastopol, on 13 September 1854, at the Gulf of Kalamita ("Calamity Bay"). Although disorganised and...
Three battles on same day, collectively one battle
The result was inverse tho. Allies won, Russians lost
All three battles
 
10:20 AM
not medieval though, but nice catch
im currently writing it on HistorySE anyway
 
1st: Allies win, Russians retreat.
2nd: Russians strike back, Allies retreat in confusion, Allies rally, Russians leg it.
3rd: Allies advance, Russians run for it
@Kepotx Would be interesting.
 
They've supposedly got a muy juicy leak
 
The set that is on fire?
 
You mean the smoke and lights?
Also, this is our new go to link when HNQ-ers come in here and complain about spoilers
 
10:26 AM
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Q: Has any medieval army ever fought 3 or more distinct battles on the same day?

KepotxIn the fantasy fiction A Song of Ice and Fire/Game of thrones, during Robert's Rebellion, three battles were fought in the same day, in the same place. There where particular conditions that lead to this event: Robert Baratheon knew that his ennemies would gather in particular place, so he decid...

 
@Edlothiad The only "leak" I've seen recently is the set that was on fire for filming I dunno what you're meaning haah
 
is Bael the bard only based on tags or can he scrap question to find "ASOIAF/GoT" related words ?
 
I think it just works for ASOIAF/GoT tags on SFF and GoT on MTV
 
is there any public API/SDK/library or whatever to create bots like this ?
 
Does the comment padding feel off today to you guys or is it just me?
It looks like it is a little more right aligned than it used to be
 
10:30 AM
I know that you can make SQL querys about some SE data, but wonder how open their system is
 
@Aegon I noticed it yesterday seems to be a lot further right than it should be
 
JAD
@Kepotx well, you can use their post API to apply regex to every new post
but that seems a bit overkill to me
 
@Kepotx I think it's a feature of chat, it's a feed bot
@JAD You'd also probably hit the limit quite quickly
 
JAD
@TheLethalCarrot Smokedetector manages it somehow
 
well, you could limit to some potentially related SE like History or Worldbuilding
is there a cap of requestable post per day ?
 
10:33 AM
@JAD Yeah I don't know what the limit is just that I know there is one
 
It just uses this feed scifi.stackexchange.com/feeds/…
 
JAD
@Kepotx I think there is an API quota of like 20k
 
For all questions, you would need to use scifi.stackexchange.com/feeds
 
JAD
But I read somewhere that they use some kind of preliminary test to weed out obvious FPs, and only request the full body of possible spam candidates
 
20k isn't bad aye
 
JAD
10:40 AM
@TheLethalCarrot especially since you can clump upto 100 postIDs together into one request
 
10:52 AM
oh, just realized know that NSNoob and @Aegon is the same person
 
@Kepotx Lol
 
Yeah that threw me the first time I saw it too haha
I think I moaned at him on MTV for plagiarism of his own answer haha
 
Your question is going to HNQ I think
@TheLethalCarrot Lol did you? I don't remember that. Maybe you deleted the comments before I could see them?
 
@Aegon i don't hink so, i though the HNQ algorythm was also based on answer (number of answered and cumulative score) so as there are no answer, no hotness
 
@Kepotx Really? I thought activity counted as well. Edits+Comments. You are getting a nice number of views so I figured
 
10:56 AM
@Aegon It was before I was too active in the tags, as I was starting to but yeah we had an exchange in the comments haha
 
Your question isn't an easy one, It would take a while for someone to dig up something, if there is something to dig up that is.
 
sure. but it is not like worldbuilding style question where you quickly got 10 answer...
you quickly found alma attle, but as I restricted it to medieval warfare, it can be harder to find a similar event
 
11:14 AM
Anyone got any idea what this user is getting at?
FWIW Hadrian's wall isn't in Scotland. — Undistraction 4 mins ago
 
Found your answer
 
of course, its in Britannia, of the Roman Empire
How dare you negate the all-powernss of Empire ?
 
@TheLethalCarrot He means to say, "Roma Invicta, Barbarian"
Funny how it didn't come to my mind
I asked a question about Battle of Mohi myself not too long ago
 
@Aegon Yeah but I don't see how it's relevant at all haha
 
11:32 AM
@TheLethalCarrot T'was this, yes, however I was trying to keep the chat reasonably clean
 
Ahh I was purposefully not saying which one
 
> but I have been to Scotland and I have walked along what remains of Hadrian's Wall
It's Eastwatch HA SUCKERS! bet you never saw that coming
 
@Edlothiad Yeah I know what he was referring to I just don;t see how it's relevant to the answer
 
@TheLethalCarrot Cuz it's obviously fake if it gets its facts wrong. It's not like Americans are just generally oblivious to anything outside their own orbit...
(was that rude?)
 
Well their not awake yet so your call :P
 
JAD
11:42 AM
generally, if you have to ask yourself that, it probably was
 
I think Eds filter is a lot lower than most
 
Hey. I think everyone who appreciates GRRMs work to it's fullest and never gets insulted has a lower filter than most...
(I can't tell if you guys know which bit I think is rude?)
 
I wasn't saying my filter wasn't low haha
@Edlothiad Well there's 3 parts that people could decide to take offence it it's whether they do or not that's the case
 
Well really there was no parts that a reasonable person would take offence to.
 
That's my opinion too
 
11:47 AM
(what's the first part? I only see two)
 
Doesn't mean someone won't though
Well mainly 2 I was saying 3 to cover all bases :P
 
If someone gets offended by "it's obviously fake if it gets its facts wrong", then I don't know if I can ever say anything again.
 
Well I tend not to take much offence but I know there are those who seem to find pleasure of looking for things to take offence at, even on behalf of people
 
@TheLethalCarrot Now I'm no Rhoynar, but you can't just say they're lost souls. They were forced from their homelands and found refuge in Dorne.
 
12:00 PM
You've just made my earlier comments the least offensive thing in history.
 
Hahaha can't take offence at a quote though :P At least not at the quoter
If I make an answer out of it I'm bound to get some upvotes too, especially as the Aztec one has done
 
You guys have gotten enough votes. I'm throwing a too broad vote on that Night's watch question.
 
I'm voting to close this as too broad, the OP has stated in multiple comments etc. that their question is vague, and that they're looking for any parallels, this has led to the subjective list below were there is no one right answer but any example showing parallels is a valid answer. This does not fit the Q&A style of the site. — Edlothiad 9 secs ago
 
To be fair the OP did kind of ruin their own question by doing that
 
12:08 PM
Hence why the close votes are coming in now
Or should come in now.
 
I'm waiting for the review
 
JAD
damn, I wanted to add an answer noting how the NW and coal miners are both covered in black
 
@JAD Savage
 
@Kepotx Told ya!
 
12:23 PM
Found something to answer finally and then realised it was GoT only -_-
 
@TheLethalCarrot "It is a common misconception that Hadrian's Wall marks the boundary between England and Scotland. In fact Hadrian's Wall lies entirely within England and has never formed the Anglo-Scottish border.[8] While it is less than 0.6 miles (1.0 km) south of the border with Scotland in the west at Bowness-on-Solway, in the east it is as much as 68 miles (109 km) away"
 
Enjoy your gold badges, @Kepotx @TheLethalCarrot
 
@Kepotx I've said this twice now, I know that I just don't see how it's relevant to the answer at all
 
@Aegon yeah, two questions/answer in HNQ in the same time
 
@Edlothiad mmmhm?
Oh
Whty?
Like, why?
 
JAD
12:25 PM
I guess because another answer was accepted?
but for Populist the accepted answer needs to be >10
and only the highest voted answer actually gets the populist badge afaik
 
Yeah we need it to hit 10
 
JAD
11*
its >10, not >= 10
 
Lol GG TLC
 
Also FWIW I've walked the length of Hadrian's Wall so I know where it is :P
 
Why did he accept it, because he thought it wards off the close votes, but he's wrong.
 
JAD
12:26 PM
Provide an answer that meets all of the following criteria (source):
it is the highest scoring answer on the question (source)
it does not have the accepted checkmark
it has a score of 23 or more
it has at least one vote more than double the score of the accepted answer
the accepted answer has a score of 11 or more
it is not an answer to your own question (source)
 
@Edlothiad That's what you get for providing semi canon info where people just want speculation
 
Populist is really hard
 
@JAD gonna need sources
 
I once thought I was close
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Q: Is it considered fair to recommend that people upvote an answer if they feel it is worth it?

AegonI have been after the elusive Populist badge for a long time. It has been almost a year now and it still remains elusive as the candidate answer is shy of one vote and I am getting desperate. While I am confident of the answer's quality, I am not sure if asking people to consider upvoting the an...

 
JAD
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Q: List of all badges with full descriptions

Pops What are badge name's requirements? Why didn't I get badge name (right now)? Which badges can I earn multiple times? Jump to: Question Badges Answer Badges Participation Badges Tag Badges Moderation Badges Other Badges Area 51 Badges Documentation Badges (Stack Overf...

 
@Edlothiad Lucky sod
 
DV's answers
 
I'm not going to get into an argument with that guy, but I will say, I did warn him
 
JAD
@TheLethalCarrot it's not like you can lose the badge
 
@Edlothiad I sense growth
@JAD Can't you? You can lose some badges
 
12:32 PM
@TheLethalCarrot Don't be daft, I'm just doing other things
 
JAD
@TheLethalCarrot only tag badges
> Tag badges that are no longer applicable are revoked, unlike "regular" badges.
 
@Edlothiad My Ed senses are failing me today
Ah fair enough
 
@Aegon You mean providing a good answer to a question citing every occurrence in canon as opposed to some random calculation of years stating that's the requirement when it really isn't?
 
Mornin' @Mith
 
I guess the luck is in the OP selecting the objectively worse answer.
 
12:33 PM
@TheLethalCarrot 'fternoon
 
Evenin'
Woops ignore me
As you were
Don't mind me
 
A Game of Thrones is long.
 
JAD
@Mithrandir its the shortest book though
so buckle up
 
exactly
 
Although there's the case where the HNQ upvotes a dumpster fire and the OP selects the one that got less love. Exhibit A
Just watch the TV show it's the same
 
12:37 PM
@Edlothiad Well they are both as bad really
 
Normally I like long books, but I'm not sure if I want to jump into this one considering all I've heard about it
 
@TheLethalCarrot Both dumpster fires, but one got less love
 
JAD
@Edlothiad well, you know, a picture says more than a thousand words, and @amflare didn't include a tl:dr, so yeah tl:dr
 
@Mithrandir It has certain topics you don't like.
@JAD 4 pictures = tl;dr?
 
12:38 PM
I know
 
JAD
@Edlothiad that's >4000 words you know
 
@Edlothiad I... don't really watch that much ;)
 
@JAD Ah of course, the bullet points are the tl;dr
 
JAD
@Mithrandir I've got a feeling that that was sarcasm by Ed
@Edlothiad those make it even worse ;(
 
@JAD y'all gotta get your ed senses fixed
 
12:39 PM
Lol
 
My sarcasm detector always needs recalibration after a discussion with Ed.
 
@JAD Can it get worse? Where's amflar? ANSWER FOR YOUR ABOMINATION
 
JAD
@Mithrandir I think it's still safe to interpret it as sarcasm
 
Wow I still can't spell Daenerys...
 
JAD
Danny*
 
12:41 PM
@Edlothiad That answer makes Rhaego look like his namesake...
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A: How does one pronounce "Asshai"?

TheLethalCarrotHowever you like George R. R. Martin has never been one for pronunciations and has said a few times that you can pronounce anything however you like. Favorite character? GRRM : Tyrion in Ice and Fire. Abner Marsh in Fevre Dream. Glad to hear you pronounce the names GRRM: In my youth I ...

TRRIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGERERERERERERERERERERERERERED
 
I want that ASOIAF badge :P
 
Nah the quote by GRRM triggers me
 
> knew a lot of words that I had never heard spoken aloud. When I went away to college I found I was pronouncing a lot of these words wrong.
 
@Skooba Any particular reason you want to leave that Q open?
 
"I've come to not care about pronunciation"
 
12:44 PM
I can definitely relate to that quote :P
 
I think the point is many cultures pronounce things differently anyway so even in the real world there's many correct pronunciations
 
No there's one correct pronunciation, that's a ridiculous sentiment... Clearly not a linguist or a philologist
 
Well there's one pronunciation he has in mind but that doesn't mean there aren't others available
 
@Mithrandir It's the british pronunciation and anything else is wrong.
 
JAD
12:47 PM
@TheLethalCarrot exactly, he won't go full Ed when people say something wrong ;)
 
@Edlothiad I'll take that ;P
 
yeah, random unexpected DownVote on both TLC and my answer with NW
 
It happens
 
@JAD Excuse me. Walk into Braavos and call it Bray-vows. A Bravo will happily come along in their colourful garms and carve you apart
 
When I do that:

1. I don't get enough votes to outdo the accepted answer
2. My answer becomes the accepted answer

You're lucky that the OP didn't change the accepted answer before you had a chance to beat it.
 
12:53 PM
> Ser Waymar Royce glanced at the sky with disinterest. “It does that every day about this time. Are you unmanned by the dark, Gared?”
 
@Edlothiad Pronunciations are regional: Grarse and Grass for example. In Nottingham we pronounce the city Notten'am, Americans call it NottingHAM and a lot of others just say Nottingham as it's written. There are loads of examples
 
@Aegon I'd smashed it long after the OP accepted it.
 
...I don't believe that disinterest means what you think it means. At least, what it's supposed to mean, until people got very mixed up and started using disinterested as a synonym for uninterested.
 
JAD
Adjective: disinterested (comparative more disinterested, superlative most disinterested)
  1. Having no stake or interest in the outcome; free of bias, impartial. [from 17th c.]
  2. 1919, W. Somerset Maugham, The Moon and Sixpence, ch. 1:
  3. With his disinterested passion for art, he had a real desire to call the attention of the wise to a talent which was in the highest degree original; [...]
  4. 2011, Steven Pinker, The Better Angels of Our Nature, Penguin 2012, p. 220:
  5. People are better off abjuring violence, if everyone else agrees to do so, and vesting authority in a disinterested third party.
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> Uninterested, lacking interest
 
It's only taken on that meaning because people keep mixing them up.
 
JAD
12:57 PM
that's how language works
it means whatever people use it for
 
Oh sure... after a certain while it becomes accepted and becomes acceptable. That doesn't mean that I won't complain about it while in the middle stage :P
 
JAD
plus, maybe Ser Royce is so uninterested, that he actually become disinterested. He didn't care about it that much, that he had no interest in the darkness whatsoever, be it 'un' or 'dis'
 
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