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12:25 AM
Update on the stolen laptop: checked the security cameras, they can't find them within the past three days (when I wheeled the piles to the room I was working in). We're giving up on it
 
Only so much time to look at security cameras, on top of our other jobs
Anyways, I'm gonna pack up and head home
 
hmm. Ars is moving to a bit of a fremium model arstechnica.com/staff/2018/01/…
though they're being nice and actually giving people additional things for supporting them, rather than paywalling stuff that was free <3
 
1:06 AM
Released on GitHub: SprintDLL
Kind of like rundll32, except that it actually does what people think rundll32 does, and supports multiple function calls in the same process, and a lot of other neat stuff!
The syntax is not currently documented, but I will get around to this sometime
At least there are a few example commands
 
Bob
1:24 AM
@BenN rundll32 has done what people think rundll32 does since Vista :P
 
Not in terms of actually parsing and passing arguments, though
e.g. try rundll32 user32.dll,ExitWindowsEx 0, 0 and you will not be logged off (or maybe you will, if you get lucky with the assigned window handle)
But sprintdll call user32.dll!ExitWindowsEx (int 0, int 0) works :)
 
1:43 AM
...the netbook did a genuinely absurd amount of paging file I/O over the last couple of hours. PrimoCache offloaded most of this I/O to the sacrificial portable SSD.
I mean, it did upwards of 10 GB of writes - and it would be safe to assume that the majority of them are to the paging file, since PrimoCache prevented about 25% of the writes from hitting the disk, and I/O to the paging file is often repetitive over a limited set of LBAs (the caching software operates at block level).
And there were more than 40 GB of reads over the same time span, with a cache hit rate of nearly 90%. (The cache is 8 GB in size.)
4
Q: Under what circumstances can I use rundll32 to invoke a function in a DLL?

Ben NI'd like to invoke the functionality found in various Windows DLLs from the command line. It looks like the rundll32 utility will do what I need - it takes a DLL name and a function name, and runs that function with parameters. I certainly hope there won't be any problems with that. What functio...

 
Bob
2:15 AM
@bwDraco meh, point being since Vista the stack corruption issue has been dealt with. None of that is news to me
 
Hello all
 
Hi!
 
Anyone know what HitmanPro.Alert is? I've got a fresh install of Windows 10 and all of a sudden I have this running in the background....
 
It's apparently an AV thing from Sophos
 
Ah... that would make sense as I'm using Sophos for my Anti-Virus
 
2:19 AM
@KronoS Anti-ransomware software.
 
I'm trying to debug some Windows 10 stability issues. It's all of a sudden just not very stable
I am running on the slow ring of Dev Preview, but haven't run into issues like this before
where Search and settings aren't working properly, and the fact that simple file access is causing things to freeze
I'm very very close to switching to linux as my primary OS
 
2:36 AM
If you boot into a minimal configuration does this behavior exhibit itself?
I wouldn't judge Windows on a unstable build of Windows 10. RS4 channel is not considered stable at this point, that won't happen, until they start pushing RS5 to the fast channel which is 2 months away
 
Bob
3:24 AM
@KronoS complaining that a pre-release is unstable seems a bit pointless
 
If you have a problem, use the Feedback Hub app to report a bug.
 
Bob
sigh
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A: Will Compressing an Entire USB Flash Drive Actually Increase Performance?

SirLongBeardThe purpose of compression is to save disk space and speed up file transfers. Opening and editing files, though, will always be slower, since the operating system will have to decompress them every time you do these things.

not only is the answer wrong, they can't even get their accusations in the comments correct
hm. I forgot my keys
 
Bob
4:42 AM
@JourneymanGeek i.imgur.com/SIbHn6b.gifv :D
Aldi catalogue has a $599 computer (SFF?) with an "Intel Core 13"
 
Seems expensive
for an i3 :$ I would wait for the Meltdown/Spec fixed processors :$
 
> :$
 
5:07 AM
@Bob or old gen or laptop or
 
Bob
5:28 AM
@JourneymanGeek point is the "13"
 
ohhhh
Dyslexia? ;p
 
Not a fan of these sorts of cameras. The pixel-level image quality goes to crap towards the long range of the zoom range.
But 24-2000mm equivalent zoom? That's a very alluring proposition regardless.
 
Bob
@bwDraco "pixel-level image quality"? it's optical zoom, not digital
though of course it won't be near a long prime lens
 
@Bob The lens isn't equally sharp throughout the zoom range.
By the time you get to the far end of the zoom range, diffraction hits really hard. f/6.5 on a 16-megapixel sensor that's only 6.2x4.6mm in size does not look great.
I tend to prefer larger apertures over zoom range.
Obviously, you'd hit physical constraints (a wider aperture necessarily means a larger lens) but 30x zoom with an aperture no slower than f/4 is far more useful to me.
^ 24x zoom, f/2.8 constant aperture.
Lower resolution, sure, but 12MP is fine for a compact camera.
I tend to feel that more than 12MP isn't useful on a compact camera when diffraction already greatly limits optical resolution.
Loses some zoom range and is a bit slower, but uses a much larger sensor (1-inch format, 13.2x8.8mm).
I have a Nikon Coolpix S9900 and I've never liked the image quality at long zoom or in less than ideal lighting.
 
6:31 AM
@bwDraco its hilariously overzoomy
 
lol
 
this hurts my brain to read. And I mean physically, and probably mentally too
 
6:48 AM
yanno, I think its actually a troll ._.
 
Bob
I did notice the same thing about Homer. But in his defense, Odysseus went though ships like potato chips. — T.E.D. ♦ yesterday
 
Bob
:D
 
lol
 
7:27 AM
good morning
 
7:40 AM
roar
 
8:34 AM
@Bob Looks like my usual daiso is closing :(
they're opening a smaller one nearby with a large don don donki in the same building
(another japanese discount store)
 
Bob
9:03 AM
@JourneymanGeek :(
smaller daisos just aren't the same
 
yup
and the other two big ones are in town and in Jurong
 
Bob
also, they seem to have ditched the small knives (and ceramic knives) here :(
@JourneymanGeek welllllllll technically "in town" isn't that far? :P
 
ah! We have small knives. Haven't seen ceramic in a while
@Bob actual effort
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek yea, I had to buy one at Target two weeks ago
the horror!
 
actually the new one is literally 10 minutes away
also lost the only nearby stationary store though the new daiso and don don donki ought to have stationary when they open
 
9:53 AM
._.
THe stuff I run into on the internet, searching for something else...
Wikipedia is currently experiencing an editor retention problem. At the same time, Stack Exchange is growing faster than ever. It may help to compare and contrast our methodology with theirs. == Reputation == On Stack Exchange, users are officially ranked by "reputation," a score which loosely measures the value each user creates for the site. Beyond a certain level, users are effectively regarded as minor deities and relative differences in rep become less important. Of course, all users are still accountable for their actions. Reputation does correlate rather strongly with participation, but...
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10:28 AM
need to check temps coming up for chessey in france in the next few weeks
@JourneymanGeek it's a lot of talk, and not much action at wikipedia
 
@djsmiley2k the joke is I was basically trying to find a reference to SE basically being designed to be "anti" social
 
I don't think it IS designed to be?
 
it's not designed as a social media site
but......
 
But it forms communities in spite of it
 
10:35 AM
yup
 
but its a terrible tool for running and managing external communities
 
people form communities
 
Yup
but other than chat, there's hardly any social tooling on the site
that said, wikipedia is good at some things
especially in terms of actually containing bigger chunks of knowledge
 
user226528
@JourneymanGeek Well, that's an essay, and hence the opinion of its writer. I was active in Wikipedia for ten years and they had to force me out. I am disenfranchised with Superuser as soon I received my first gold badge.
 
@FleetCommand not even saying I agree with it
 
user226528
10:46 AM
@JourneymanGeek I know. The author has missed the biggest difference between Stack Exchange and Wikipedia. And I mean the BIGGEST.
 
user226528
Of course, there is one area in which Stack Exchange is doing a much better job: It has a convenient chatroom. Wikipedia does not. It used to have supremely inconvenient IRC channels. I hate IRC and even the day I managed to connect to it, I didn't know what to talk about.
 
@FleetCommand the joke being the chatrooms are kind of SE's best kept secret
 
user226528
I remember I once answered a question. Some user called psusi downvoted my well-received answer on the pretext that its item #2 was marginal and unnecessary. Later, the OP clarified that item #2 was probably the actual answer.
 
user226528
Today I noticed a drop of -20 in my rep.
 
user226528
Reason: User removed.
 
user226528
10:55 AM
You know about typos where people mistakenly write one letter before the other? e.g. "ohter"? Well, you'd better not do that with "psusi".
 
user226528
11:07 AM
It kinda reminds me of French Connection.
 
user226528
I noticed you have posted a lot of these Baymax smileys lately.
 
Its a scary world.
 
user226528
Yeah. Scary. Chips do taste well these days.
 
(you gotta imagine a dog with his mouth shut, looking srs)
or say 0_0
 
user226528
That'd be Captain Doom.
 
user226528
12:39 PM
Well... maybe it qualifies as Major Oblivion too.
 
1:07 PM
Teh vs The is often my typo
 
I do wierd
.... I wasn't going mad.
I was doing CCNA training and I kept having issues spelling neighbor as neighbour....
cisco's using american spelling. I was using british and assuming I was mispelling
 
user226528
O.o
 
user226528
CCNA does a literature test too?
 
user226528
MCSE exams were all multiple choice questions.
 
user226528
1:30 PM
There is a handmark on my office's ceiling. I though someone dipped his hand into white paint and rubbed it on the ceiling. Turns out, I was wrong. Someone simply put his bare hand on the ceiling. That's all.
 
Your building is a honorary uruk hai
 
heh
 
@FleetCommand there's a practical component and it kept failing
and I assumed it was dyslexic spelling
 
in my 6th form building, there was foot prints on the celing.
how they got there is only something i and one other person know xD
@FleetCommand General Failure reporting for duty, SAH!
 
General Cat here
Meaow
 
1:37 PM
@JourneymanGeek I always just use tab completion
or ?
 
@djsmiley2k hah, that's what I did!
 
Oh it wasn't me you wanted
 
@FMLCat you're a cat. Not sure whether your wanted comes into the equation ;p
 
@JourneymanGeek :D
 
user226528
@djsmiley2k Hehe. There was time that I kept hearing "general failure" once in a while, and I was immediately reminded of "major malfunction". There was even an Army Men video game in which there was a "Major Malfunction" character.
 
1:43 PM
nod
was 'Army Men' the film tie in?
 
user226528
There was no Army Men film ever made, but if you mean the Stanley Kubrick film, no.
 
user226528
It was a homage.
 
not stanley kubrick afaik
it was about some toys with these incredible AI chips
 
WHAT IS YOUR MAHOR MALFUNCTION SOLDIER?
@djsmiley2k that was something else
 
user226528
~ "numbnut".
 
user226528
1:45 PM
Not "soldier".
 
also
Small Soldiers is a 1998 American science fiction action film directed by Joe Dante. The film revolves around two adolescents who get caught in the middle of a war between two factions of sentient action figures, the Gorgonites and the Commando Elite. == Plot == Top defense contractor GloboTech Industries acquires the Heartland Toy Company and as part of the move, Globotech CEO Gil Mars tells Heartland toy designers Larry Benson and Irwin Wayfair to develop actual live-action toys capable of "playing back". Mars selects Larry's action figures, the Commando Elite, for the project and Irwin...
 
user226528
> Hartman: [yelling] What is your major malfunction, numb-nuts? Didn't mommy and daddy show you enough attention when you were a child?
 
Steven Spielberg
Steven Allan Spielberg (born December 18, 1946) is an American director, producer, and screenwriter. He is considered one of the founding pioneers of the New Hollywood era, as well as being viewed as one of the most popular directors and producers in film history. He is also one of the co-founders of DreamWorks Studios. In a career spanning more than four decades, Spielberg's films have spanned many themes and genres. Spielberg's early science-fiction and adventure films, such as Jaws (1975), Close Encounters of the Third Kind (1977), Raiders of the Lost Ark (1981), and E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial...
 
@JourneymanGeek that's it!
 
googled "monsters AI chip toy hero" ;p
 
2:11 PM
;D
 
user226528
2:34 PM
What is Adobe CEF?
 
no idea
 
user226528
Whatever the hell it is, it has a Google EULA with it and it is licensed under the terms of MIT license. Hmm... The only thing I know with these specifications is Chromium.
 
wow google doesn't really know
 
user226528
Actually, on the third page of Google results, I found this: github.com/adobe/brackets/wiki/Building-CEF-and-Chromium
 
user226528
Huh! Wikipedia to rescue again. It is Chromium Extension Framework.
 
user226528
2:42 PM
!!wiki Chromium Extension Framework
 
@FleetCommand The Wikipedia contains no knowledge of such a thing
 
user226528
Okay, the article just moved to:
 
user226528
!!wiki Chromium Embedded Framework
 
The Chromium Embedded Framework (CEF) is an open source framework for embedding a web browser engine based on the Chromium core. It allows developers to add web browser control and implement an HTML5-based layout GUI in a desktop application or to provide web browser capabilities to a software application or game, and provides the infrastructure for developers to add HTML rendering and JavaScript to a C++ project. It also comes with bindings for C, C++, Delphi, Go, Java, .NET / Mono, Visual Basic 6.0, and Python and runs on Linux, Mac OS X and Windows. == Overview == There are two version...
 
@HenryWHHackv2.1.1 I am a bot
 
2:53 PM
Nice.
In my mind: It's a trick!
 
@HenryWHHackv2.1.1 or is it? Or No its Becky.
 
If it took this long to reply then it must be broken.
The robot IAmABot takes long to reply.
HWHH out!
 
Bob
3:40 PM
hola
 
4:03 PM
Que tal?
 
Comment ça va?
 
4:20 PM
Ca va bien merci, et tu?
 
4:57 PM
@Mokubai Et tu, Brute?
 
@DavidPostill Meine vater ist arbeitslos?
 
Carpe diem?
 
@Mokubai mein Postillion wurde vom Blitz getroffen!
 
5:03 PM
Mein hut es hat drei ecken!
 
k, u lost me
 
Sono molto confuso
 
@djsmiley2k @ThatBrazilianGuy @Mokubai "mein Postillion wurde vom Blitz getroffen!" That phrase appeared in an old book I used many years ago when learning German. It translates as "My postillion was struck by lightning". Of course I found that amusing given my surname. A postillion (if you don't know) is "a person who rides the leading nearside (left-hand side) horse of a team or pair drawing a coach or carriage, especially when there is no coachman."
 
heh
 
Yesterday, David was ill, today he's @DavidPostill
 
5:15 PM
@ThatBrazilianGuy Who is David?
@ThatBrazilianGuy I may be insane but I'm not ill ;)
 
rofl
 
No, you're POST-ill!
 
The more I read about backup solutions, the more choice paralysis I get
:(
I thought I was all set to move to bup per ToxicFrog's recommendation, but I've just had a look through the rdiff-backup'd dirs and... it seems to do it job well
As ever, the Arch wiki has a handy dandy comparison page, but there are still too many choices
 
Remember, premature optimization is the root of evil.
 
Carping about an area of software being well-served is poor form, but hey ho
Ach, it's more that once a backup system is in place I don't want to touch it, (ideally) ever
ie spend time now making a good robust choice, spend no time on it in the next N (hopefully ≥ 3) years
 
5:33 PM
warning, warning
i think rdiff-backup was the one i saw eat things horribly
instead use rsnapshot
(just my opinion, milage may vary, etc)
 
Oh? In what way?
I used it for $years with no apparent ill effects
But then again I didn't restore very much from it
 
I think it was problems with links (hard and soft)
yeah, exactly
it never threw up any errors....
 
ISTR using it to restore an old version of a file
Which is about as fancy as I was willing to get with it
I may be misrembering though
 
i've restored large amounts from rsnapshot and not hit any problems yet, plus the possible verbosness is nice too
anytime i see the string rdiff-backup I have nightmares xD
> For rsnapshot, all versions of the backup are accessible as plain files. For rdiff-backup, only the current backup is accessible as plain files. Previous versions are stored as rdiff deltas.
that, is what causeed a problem, but ican't remember exactly why
 
Ah, fair enough, I can definitely see the appeal there
Particularly if you've been bitten by data loss because of it
Ah, borg looks good too
 
5:43 PM
I liked the fact I understood exactly what rsnapshot was doing too
 
5:57 PM
@ThatBrazilianGuy ah. got it ;)
 
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A: Why is ssh ignoring my ~/.ssh/config? Cannot commit to github

djsmiley2kYou're not calling to connect to the host you've defined in your config. Use ssh gh not ssh .... git@github.com But why? - See below: [mpenning@mudslide .ssh]$ ssh -F ./config git@github.com Permission denied (publickey). ^^^^^^^^ This used to work I don't think it ever did (did you ...

woooo
worked it out in my head :O
Still, I'm pretty sure the thing the user thinks used to work, never did the way they think it did.
oh lord a question concerning SSID and BSSID's, and how devices switch between them
even i'm not sure on this anymore
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Q: Using an old router as an accesspoint

jacoI am aware on how to set up an old router to make it work as an access point, however what I would like to know is would it be better if the second router has its own connection to connect to (have another ssid as the new main router) or should it act as one connection? I read online that having ...

as it seems to be device specific
 
So I'm going to chop stuff for salad and I sharpen the knife. And of course then I slice a bit off my thumb. And it wont stop bleeding ... :/ 10 minutes later I have a dressing on my thumb - but it makes using my trackball a bit difficult ... :/
 
I've had devices which see the SSID as the identifier only, ignoring the fact the mac address or bssid's are different
other devices refuse to connect because while the ssid is the same it knows it's not the same network (chromecast did this)
and other devices which seemed to vary random;ly
 
@DavidPostill What kind of dressing? Ranch or Mayonnaise?
And surely that should have been on the salad rather than your thumb...
 
derp
 
6:04 PM
@Mokubai lol.
 
also lol.
it's nearly the aniversry of that time i trie dto chop my finger off
(i.e. my birthday)
 
Hey!
I can't be online regularly for about another month
Buttttttttt.......
 
I need some ideas of what could be going wrong with my system
 
@rahuldottech D:
what's happening to it
 
6:11 PM
Here's what's happening:
 
(is this the one in the cupboard?)
 
@djsmiley2k nup
 
@rahuldottech Too many girlfriends?
 
@ThatBrazilianGuy lol no
Nothing was working, random directories required admin access (Desktop, Downloads), Recycle Bin got corrupted
So I scanned and fixed disk issues
And reinstalled windows
Except now
This fresh install just crashes - no BSOD, no error codes, just a black screen and ZAP! it restarts
 
Bad RAM or hardware?
What's the memtest result?
 
6:14 PM
@ThatBrazilianGuy Not sure, but winPE and Live OSs work just fine
 
@ThatBrazilianGuy have not done one, will do
 
Live os's working indicate a storage fault
 
@djsmiley2k chkdsk gets no errors
But like
I'm probably using wrong arguments/parameters
 
That only looks at data on the disk
 
Ave
@ThatBrazilianGuy that's me_irl
 
Updated services. Spectrum in NY is now 200/5 Mbps standard. Sadly, this means less upstream bandwidth than before.
 
Anyone ever bought a replacement fridge shelf? I'm trying to find some for mine but they're hard to find
Similar ones seem expensive for a piece of plastic (he said, underestimating the process)
(also: sod off, Clippy)
3
 
the shelves in my fridge are glass
 
so are ours. when a shelf broke we took the old shelf to a glass cutter and got a piece of safety glass cut to shape.
 
6:37 PM
i think glass is more resistant to bactria or something
 
Hmm...
Looks like upstream bandwidth has been rather bad even before this switch:
Dec 30 '17 at 5:59, by bwDraco
This took a while to upload. Not sure why it didn't fully utilize my bandwidth (peering congestion?)
It's not even hitting 5 Mbps.
And it was doing this well before the service was changed.
 
@Burgi more likely smells and colours than the actual bacteria
but yes, bacteria too
also, touch wood, never actually broke a fridge shelf :O
 
Welp, mine are plastic and have molded bits to site them in place correctly
So a 'universal' replacement wouldn't be terribly secure
Short of adding some locating pins/other stoppers to it
 
40:1 ratio on download to upload seems really bad :/
 
It's not peering congestion; seems they've provisioned much less bandwidth to upstream.
 
6:45 PM
I'm on 100/3 tho D:
 
I'm averaging 2-3 Mbps.
Something changed in the last few months.
 
Actually, it maybe 100/6, as it was 50/3
 
This was well before we got 200 Mbps today, when the advertised upstream speed was in fact 10 Mbps.
(had 100/10, now 200/5)
Downstream speeds are fine, hitting 200-230 Mbps.
We may need to replace the modem to support these speeds, though...
I mean, we're getting advertised downstream speeds, but this is an 8x4 modem when Spectrum technically needs a 32x8 modem for speeds above 100 Mbps.
 
yup, 6Mbps up
 
Actually, they need 16x4, not 32x8, but we're probably getting an SB6190 to replace the existing SB6141.
 
6:59 PM
@Ave You're unbalancing the Brazilian love market!
 
I get lots of emails about the 'Brazilian love market'...
 
(Market as in "scene", I'm not meaning anything here)
 
Ave
mutters something about a polycule
 
@bertieb Oh Bertie, you should keep my love letters to you a secret!
@Ave What wrong with your follicles?
 
Ave
my follicles are fine
so is my polycule
 
7:05 PM
And what are polycules?
 
@djsmiley2k D:
 
@ThatBrazilianGuy Those were all you? :P
 
Ave
@ThatBrazilianGuy it's complicated.
 
o.O
 
Ave
Basically, I'm in a poly relationship with my 3 girlfriends. They all know each other, they are all happy with this huge relationship, we all talk, do stuff, do stuff, hang out, etc etc.
Polycule is uh
> Polycule is used to describe any system of connected non-monogamous relationships.
 
7:09 PM
not_me_irl
 
Ave
that's better than the wording I had in mind.
59 mins ago, by rahuldottech
I can't be online regularly for about another month
56 mins ago, by That Brazilian Guy
@rahuldottech Too many girlfriends?
this is basically my life now
 
as long as you and them are happy and safe ts all good
 
Ave
yeah exactly
 
thats on this laptop which is 801.11g iirc
 
802.11g tops out at 54 Mbps. Are you sure you're not using 802.11n?
(150 Mbps per spatial stream on 802.11n, up to four; most clients support one or two streams)
Most 802.11ac implementations support a maximum of 433 Mbps per spatial stream.
 
7:29 PM
oh hmmm maybe it's got a n adaptor then
/me checks device manager
oh yup, 801.11n
heh pretty old laptop too, impressed.
SSID:	Peanet
Protocol:	802.11n
Security type:	WPA2-Personal
Network band:	2.4 GHz
Network channel:	9
IPv4 address:	192.168.0.20
IPv4 DNS servers:	192.168.0.1
Manufacturer:	Qualcomm Atheros Communications Inc.
Description:	Qualcomm Atheros AR9285 Wireless Network Adapter
Driver version:	3.0.2.202
 
> Peanet
lol
@djsmiley2k You might want to delete that since it contains your MAC address.
 
meh
 
It's still visible in the history.
 
mac's are guessible if you really want to
yup
if someone wants it, let em have it
 
Heh.
I guess it's not an issue.
 
7:33 PM
I'm not using mac based auth, and even if I was..... i doubt anyones gonna come here to jump on my network xD
 
*le sigh*
We're running 802.11ac Wave 2 here with a 4x4 router.
I don't think we're jumping onto 802.11ax anytime soon.
 
I have a .......
i don't remember ;D
 
lol
 
Netgear R7000
 
Ah. That's 3x3 IIRC.
The original Nighthawk, eh?
 
7:42 PM
I dunno, is it?
Hardware Version R7000
Firmware Version V1.0.9.18_1.2.27
 
You're up to date.
We have an R7800 here.
 
I can use the PS4 now while the misses streams amazon video without a problem \o/
 
Well... your laptop is using the 2.4 GHz band. It wasn't until 802.11n that the 5 GHz band came into common use. This, in and of itself, helps avoid contention.
The R7000 is 802.11ac Wave 1 and does not support MU-MIMO. The revised R7000P is a Wave 2 router.
If you have lots of devices and a fast Internet connection, there may be a benefit to upgrading, but routers are pretty smart these days and will make good use of the bandwidth available.
As for 802.11ax... there's little benefit until multi-gigabit Ethernet solutions become mainstream.
802.11ad mmWave technology is similarly bottlenecked by Gigabit Ethernet.
 
 
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9:16 PM
Wooo upvotes
 
9:53 PM
Why must Vagrant be sooooo difficult to setup a VM with Hyper-V?
 
10:46 PM
@Bob ya I agree. I'm going back to a stable release. Thing is I've never run into the issues like this before even on the fast track.
 
11:27 PM
@bwDraco oddly enough I found 802.11A devices common
 
802.11a never saw widespread adoption here.
 

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