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10:00 AM
@AJ an orphanage of extra smart kids in word's best anime ever Death Note
 
@AJ Watari's real name. Quillsh Wammy
 
@Memor-X that neflix movie is crap, I have seen only 10 minutes before I tired to kill myself by banging my head on my laptop
 
and thus Wammy House is named after him
 
Death Note is the best think ever made by humans
 
> i only wrote your name in the Death Note that you would die if you stole the Death Note
 
10:02 AM
And netflix is responsible in ruining it
 
NO! that is not how it works!
 
hmm
at some point in the anime the art syle changes
 
@Memor-X I have read plot on Wikipedia and it's shittiest thing on this earth
@JarkoDubbeldam have you seen death note anime
 
yea
actually rewatching it now
I'm at the finale
 
@JarkoDubbeldam and netflix shit adaptation of it?
 
10:04 AM
I must say I liked it less after L died
not yet
 
@JarkoDubbeldam well done
 
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Q: Which film(s) has this opening?

EivicSo from my vague memory, the film opens with a top down shot of the sea. It's either being filmed from a helicopter or an airplane, either way, the shot is moving fast parallel to the sea. The opening credits fade in and out over the sea and as the music hits a climax, the camera tilts upwards as...

 
L's death feels cheaply done
 
@JarkoDubbeldam good, don't give them any views, if it help destroy your Netflix credentials or computer/latop
 
@JarkoDubbeldam is that when the cut in in the middle of the episode (where it shows the Death Note Rules) started being red?
 
10:05 AM
@AnkitSharma I only watch netflix on my tv
@Memor-X possibly
 
@JarkoDubbeldam I heard that many time but for me I enjoyed second half equally too
 
@JarkoDubbeldam i'm re-watching it too but i'm on just after Sidoh is revealed and says he has to go to the Human World
 
@JarkoDubbeldam nuke it if you ever plan on watching Netflix film
 
@JarkoDubbeldam could be because it's then Season 2 then which did have a break in between them
@JarkoDubbeldam the Movie's one is way better
 
hmm, so afterwards the artstyle is different too. Some characters look really quite different.
 
10:07 AM
@JarkoDubbeldam well they did grow up
 
@Memor-X I am thinking to watch Death Note and Code Geass ( excluding Akito the exile shit) again but my backlog of new stuff is too long
where is @M.A.R. , there is no flying tables in TSR today
 
i think there's like 5 years since Light does that cool notebook writing ontop of a building
@AnkitSharma good choices
 
hmm, and I think I was slightly disappointed that in the end the story was resolved by a small character messing up, rather than YL or N outwitting the other
 
Near is cute
I am sure he was my dp in past
 
@JarkoDubbeldam actually Near did outwit Light, remember that he had tampered with the Death Note which give him the evidence that Light was Kira
 
10:11 AM
@Memor-X hmm, I'm not 100% sharp on it
 
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A: The many avatars of SFF.SE

Ankit SharmaMeh......... On the day I started writing it, it was Nightwing Don't blink, it might change into Grumpy Dwarf, Charlie Pace, Arrow, Constantine, V for vendetta, Jason Voorhees, Babadook, Alaric Saltzman, Zach, Groncholverine, Indian gods form molee's art pieces, Captain America (Hydra Agent)...

Yeah just after L
 
wasn't it Mikami thinking for himself and doing something he wasn't meant to do that ended up being the critical failure?
 
I need to update that answer with all the linking and missing avatars
@JarkoDubbeldam Mikami was bleh
 
@JarkoDubbeldam remember that Near said that if Mikami was out to kill everyone he would have written Light's name......unless Light was Kira and Near had replaced the page that he predicted Mikami would right on
 
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That room is frozen again.
 
10:13 AM
@JarkoDubbeldam that was his tirade after calling out to light
 
true, but there was something with switching the notebooks or something
 
@AJ the restaurant at the end of the universe?
 
I don't remember anymore, but tonight I'll watch that very episode, so we'll know for sure
 
@AJ let it die
 
@JarkoDubbeldam it was just a page or two. Near knew he couldn't switch the entire thing if i recall correctly
 
10:14 AM

 Movies & TV Moderation and Maintenance

Maintenance and review room for movies.stackexchange.com. For ...
 
@AnkitSharma ahhhh
 
@Memor-X yeah, he knew mikami only filled 1 page a day, so he switched the page for the 28th, so that mikami wouldn't notice his earlier killings didn't work
 
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@AnkitSharma What if I have to ask something about moderation? ;)
 
but mikami was writing in a fake book altogether, since takami was actually doing the killings
 
@AJ flag the post or use this room
 
10:15 AM
so after they noticed the page swap, they replaced it for the real notebook again
or at least, that was the plan
 
@AnkitSharma thy summoneth me, prepareth for thy consequences
 
and all I remember was that somewhere mikami did something, which caused that plan to fail
 
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It's now 15 days. What's the status for automatic closing and locking of ID questions>?
 
@AnkitSharma How? Seems like a totally different question.
 
@JarkoDubbeldam i think it was when Light, having been found out, ordered Mikami to kill everyone but Mikami committed suicide
like i recall he takes the pen and stabs himself and unleashes a fountain of blood
 
10:17 AM
nah, it must've been something else
 
One asks what the colors in the reboot series mean. The other one asks why red and yellow were changed from TOS to TNG.
 
since the notebook mikami written everybody's name in was supposed to be the true real one, untampered
but nobody present died
so something must've happened there, but I can't remember
 
@AJ Well, I guess there will be progress soon then.
 
10:22 AM
@NapoleonWilson "reboot" was added after closing
 
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@AnkitSharma It was already there. Check the last sentence.
 
@Memor-X lol
 
@AnkitSharma Seems to have always been the question, though. And it doesn't really matter of it's about the reboot or not. Even if it was about TNG is really a bit of a different question.
 
@AJ ooops but To me it look same, I mean answer is same too but I am fien if I am the only one with that though, so feel free to reopen
 
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@AnkitSharma I was going to search about this more, but got busy and the OP accepted my answer.
 
10:24 AM
@NapoleonWilson fine, maybe I am interpreting it wrong
@AJ it's never too late to edit
 
@AnkitSharma Well, I guess it has been coincidentally answered by the answers to that other question.
But it could as well not have been.
@AJ The answer seems fine, though.
 
That should be a slogan somewhere
 
And Captain Vyom rocks
@NapoleonWilson so you reopening it
 
Maybe, I don't know yet.
 
10:33 AM
 
@Memor-X those chips meme irritate me
@Memor-X when did that happen O.o
 
@AnkitSharma muwahaha, all according to keikaku
 
@AnkitSharma ummmm, a few episodes before L died? it was recent for me and i'm only 2 episodes after that
 
@Memor-X ok
 
@AnkitSharma right now I'm annoyed about the fact that we have more than 5 questions like "if water/HCl/bubble etc. is transparent, why is fog/its vapor/foam white?"
 
10:35 AM
@AnkitSharma he didn't actually say those words, it's just his face and that it's a rival to Light's chip eating
 
Dupe job is infuriating
 
@Memor-X I know I know
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Q: How does Light Yagami manage to hide a portable TV inside the chips packet?

CinCoutWhen L is monitoring the Yagami's household with cameras and mics in Death Note, Light has no direct access to the news. In order to continue killing criminals who are shown in the news, Light hides and uses a portable TV inside the chips packet. How was he able to hide the TV inside the packet...

 
And you get OPs act like "zomg zomg is it really duplicatz?!?!!!?"
 
@M.A.R. hmmmm
@M.A.R. lol
@Memor-X why there is no analysis question about the significance of eating chips like that? It looked like Light having intimate feeling for chips. Or he is just awkward asexual
 
"Does an answer there answer your question? Yes/No"
Yes = Duplicate
No = Edit question to explain how it's not a duplicate
so many go No and don't do the extra step
or don't realize we're marking as duplicate for the answers most of the time
 
10:41 AM
@Memor-X @JarkoDubbeldam maybe you guys can answer this now :
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Q: Why didn't Mello see Shinigami after touching the Death Note in Episode 29?

irshaIn the 29th episode of Death Note (Father), a third Shinigami (Sidoh) arrived on Los angels to get his notebook back. He needed the current owner,(which was one of the Mello's subordinate, Jack Neylon) to touch the death note in order to see him. How did Jack Neylon become the owner of the n...

 
@AnkitSharma i might be able to answer this soon (i was looking for a question similar to that on Anime and Manga)
 
uhm, maybe it was because that guy did the exchange.
 
This is the only Death Note question we have on movie.se with no answer at all
And you both are watching it recently
 
@Memor-X is it really that simple though?
I have gray areas, and volumes
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Q: What is the due process for the appeal of moderator actions on the stack exchange network?

user322404In the U.S. at least, due process is considered a right that is so important that it is guaranteed by the Bill of Rights. Due process balances the power of law of the land and protects the individual person from it. When a government harms a person without following the exact course of the l...

Ha, the epicness of the author and the post's failure make it funny
"Do it for the dream." DRAMA BOMB
And it's all because of a suspension
And well, not looking around to find a contact us link
I propose that, for suspended users, a huge red colored blinking box appears in the center of the screen, with font size 144.
Which reads "contact us"
 
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A: Where should I post this question about understanding a phrase in a movie?

aleWorded the right way, it might be a good fit for Biology.

lol
 
10:49 AM
@AnkitSharma haha
Question of the day: https://chemistry.stackexchange.com/questions/89043/show-the-amphoteric-propert‌​ies-of-beo-beoh2-in2o3-and-inoh3-using-sroh2
 
@M.A.R. I am not showing him/her anything
 
Oh you dirty mind
But the primary reason is they're miles away
 
Only thing I like about chemistry.se is tehre design, rest it's not my cup of tea
 
Breaking Ankit's cup of tea
Maybe I should have spitted/spit/sput in it
 
I just talked to the folks in our operations department and they are going to try extremely hard to get in touch with everyone this week and get shipments underway. Hang tight :) — Tim Post ♦ 19 hours ago
 
10:53 AM
The cup looked nice, just not the tea
 
@M.A.R. (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
 
@AnkitSharma ʕ ⊃・ ◡ ・ ʔ⊃︵┻━┻
 
I wish images were more organised in the blog like previous years. — Ankit Sharma 8 secs ago
@M.A.R. (▀̿Ĺ̯▀̿ ̿)>▄︻̷̿┻̿═━一
 
@AnkitSharma ໒( ♥ ◡ ♥ )७
The mod here is spreading hate, people
Using contact us
Contacting us
Us promises extreme prejudice
 
@M.A.R. (∩`-´)⊃━━☆゚.*・。゚
 
11:03 AM
o.O
 
@AnkitSharma (๑•̀ㅂ•́)و
( ̄ω ̄)
@ABcDexter P.p
 
O.0
 
@M.A.R. ¯\_(°_O)_/¯
 
@AnkitSharma (͡°͜ʖ͡°)
Wow, this is a pretty good idea:
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Q: Duplicates on meta sites - sum the votes

AdelinDuplicates are there mostly to tell us that a question was already asked and, in some cases, it also has an answer and to link to this question. While this is great for main sites, on meta it's a bit trickier. We know that on meta we: discuss various topics propose various features ask for su...

And from a seemingly new user
But not really new
 
o.o
 
11:10 AM
Rebooting @ABcDexter
Too many errors
 
roger
 
@ABcDexter hmm, lemme test. Destroy @AnkitSharma
 
K.
here goes the Dimethyl mercury
Ankit accidentally touches it...
 
As a German I have to ask: What is humour? — Martin - マーチン ♦ 8 hours ago
 
oh, but he was wearing gloves...
 
11:14 AM
@ABcDexter good job. Here's some pins and nails
 
-.-
 
@M.A.R. lol
 
 
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12:34 PM
For some reason, today in the pharmacy, I either sold cotton swabs, or condoms. O.o
 
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Q: The Memes of Information Security

Andrei BotalovThere are memes common to whole Stack Exchange. But after spending some time in The DMZ it becomes evident that Information Security has it's own memes (e.g. rory). I therefore propose that this space be used to document the memes endemic to Information Security's culture. One meme per answer p...

 
@M.A.R. I see I see
@AJ we don't have meme here :/
 
@AnkitSharma yes we do
Your grammar is one, for starters
@AJ are you seeing this just now? Pfft, noob
My movies of the day being obscure could be another
A chat with without memes is a chat without soul. -- Mark Twain
Steeler's love-hate relationship with Napo is another good candidate
 
@M.A.R. On movies.se we don't have meme meta post
I tired but failed
 
Well, k guess the time for documenting memes has past
 
12:45 PM
@M.A.R. or the constant falling confetti
 
We have even more memes in Chem's chat
And we use them like crazy
Which is weird
And means you're slackers
 
@M.A.R. walt being god can be another meme or the spy bob
> I think it's a bit early for memes. – M.A.R. Aug 29 '15 at 18:40
 
@AnkitSharma that guy is so cool
 
@M.A.R. that guy ruined the meme
 
Because he's awesome
 
12:49 PM
or a pun killer
 
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@M.A.R. no I saw it ages ago.
:P
 
We can even ahve meme about my changing avatars
 
And well, it was too early for memes post, not because of site's age but because of too few popular memes
 
Jan 24 '17 at 17:20, by steelersquirrel
Yeah. I'm the President of the TSwift fan club :P
ahem ahem
 
Jun 2 '17 at 22:07, by Napoleon Wilson
@Catija What is sass?
Just because we're linking random messages
 
12:53 PM
@M.A.R. not random but the useful one like this ^^
 
A J
NICE
We can make a collection of them.
 
Jul 18 '13 at 10:08, by Liath
I'm sorry but every time I see the MoS trophy question I see the word bulge... :(
lol
 
A J
haha
 
Other meme can be Dizzle's review
Aug 23 '16 at 11:31, by KutuluMike
@NapoleonWilson Dizzle finds actual reality poorly paced, one dimensional, and overly pretentious.
I am sure mike once made joke about dizzle criticizing doctors for not delivering a good baby
I though we talked about super babies enough but only 7 msgs, not worth meme
what about pingfest meme?
Steller loves TayTay can be a good meme too
Dec 3 '15 at 22:56, by Mike Edenfield
user image
I miss mike and his photoshop
 
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1:12 PM
@AnkitSharma sure
 
Or @steelersquirrel love smelling baby heads can be a good meme
Mar 23 '17 at 19:01, by user22792
I LOVE SMELLING BABIES!!!
Aug 26 '16 at 22:56, by steelerfan
Awww. I love petting and smelling babies!! It's the best!
Nov 21 '16 at 2:08, by steelerfan
@NapoleonWilson I know, but, I still love holding and smelling babies :)
Oct 17 '16 at 14:07, by steelerfan
I'm sooooo glad that Walt confirmed that smelling babies is awesome!!! See! I told you guys!! ;)
Aug 26 '16 at 22:56, by steelerfan
Awww. I love petting and smelling babies!! It's the best!
Nov 19 '17 at 7:22, by steelersquirrel
I know! Another baby head to smell!
Feb 9 '17 at 18:34, by steelersquirrel
@sanpaco Well, I am not a huge U2 fan...but, now that Bono is a fellow baby head sniffer, I am in!!! ;)
Feb 10 '17 at 15:50, by steelersquirrel
@Riker Hehehe! Hey...baby sniffing is the best!
Feb 8 '17 at 3:25, by steelersquirrel
Babies heads smell awesome!!!
Jan 7 '17 at 5:08, by steelersquirrel
Fun! Make sure and smell the babies heads! :P
 
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LOL
 
Look meme @M.A.R. ^^
 
 
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3:36 PM
Who the hell closing the GoT question now
 
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@AnkitSharma don't look at me. :P
 
Then who is it
 
A J
@AnkitSharma perhaps you forgot that you are a moderator. :P
 
I can't do name calling ;)
 
A J
Uff I am late for home. Gotta go and check my newly painted room. \o/
@AnkitSharma lol I know
 
3:48 PM
@AJ O.o
 
A J
4:40 PM
@AnkitSharma ??
 
nothing
 
A J
Then why O.o?
 
@AJ lol
@AJ for ur room
 
A J
Did you ever get such messages?
I am known to block those who send such messages on WhatsApp etc, so nobody send them any longer.
 
4:56 PM
I used to in past but not lately
 
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Q: Significance of the film "Mother!"

AnwiI was wondering about what the movie is trying to tell us. In Wikipedia I found that the film is an allegory: "It depicts the rape and torment of Mother Earth ... I represent Mother Earth; Javier, whose character is a poet, represents a form of God, a creator; Michelle Pfeiffer is an Eve to ...

 
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5:15 PM
@AnkitSharma That guy from the church in Young Sheldon has always a weird smile on his face.
 
hmmm
 
5:44 PM
@AnkitSharma Would asking if Norm's bar tab in Cheers was ever revealed considered trivia?
@AnkitSharma Hahaha! That was frigging hilarious!
 
Well, can you make it sound relevant? That might help, too. Like, is it a major thing in the show that Norm never pays his tab? Can we draw reasonable conclusions about its amount from within the show, too?
 
@steelersquirrel I can't find it
@steelersquirrel if worded well, I think it can work
 
(Provided I correctly guessed what a "bar tab" actually is.) ;-)
 
I didn't but I guess nap did :D
 
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@Mithrandir Did you get Yearling badge on Lit?
 
5:50 PM
@NapoleonWilson Yeah, it's a running joke
in the show
 
Ah, I guessed so.
 
A J
Did anybody here watch The Social Network?
 
I have a Naruto/Ben 10 question too
 
@AJ I did.
 
@AJ Yes.
 
5:52 PM
@AJ got bored, so skipped
 
A J
@Mithrandir Looks like a lot of people got it. Is it anniversary of Lit SE?
 
Yep.
 
A J
@NapoleonWilson opinions on this one?
 
in The Reading Room, 9 hours ago, by Mithrandir
Happy first birthday to Literature.SE! Today marks the day that Literature.SE began private beta. Yearling badges will soon be awarded to those who joined on the first day :)
 
@AJ It's a nice film.
 
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5:54 PM
@AnkitSharma I don't know why you got bored.
 
@Mithrandir pinned
 
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@NapoleonWilson Yep. I am going to rewatch it. I watched it when it came out.
What are the opinions about Ip Man series
?
@Mithrandir and earned minimum 200 rep
 
6:10 PM
Argh! Tablet!
 
A J
Argh! Smartphone!
 
Argh! Laptop!
 
A J
Argh! LED Bulb!
 
Argh! Dinner!
 
A J
Argh! Maggi!
 
6:21 PM
Arg! Daal, Rice, Kidney Beans and Potato/Capsicum!
 
A J
Argh! Missing h!
 
Atgh! Where!
 
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@AnkitSharma Argh! Daal se pehle!
 
Now I am bored and hungry
 
A J
@AnkitSharma Ok! Bored and Hungry, do the dinner!
 
6:25 PM
Just heating up stuff
 
A J
I am wondering what @steelersquirrel will say after seeing that conversation. ;)
 
She left :/
 
A J
Oh.
I have to go too. G'night and bon appetite!
 
Hmmm
 
A J
Windows is finally updated.
 
6:30 PM
hmmm
 
@AnkitSharma Sorry! I'm having technical difficulties ;)
 
ohh
Should I start my Naruto question rampage here ?
First I need to change DP
 
@NapoleonWilson So...there's a few episodes that focus on his bar tab. One is where Sam pulls out a huge box with papers that says "Norm bar tab" and on the final episode, Sam makes some sort of statement about having NASA calculate his tab, but I don't know if it's ever revealed.
It's also not easily found on Google
 
Well, to me as an outsider, it sounds interesting. (And if the answer is "no, because it's part of the joke, it's supposed to be unimaginably high", then that would be interesting, too, I guess.
 
Dec 2 '15 at 12:57, by Mike Edenfield
"The labor process was objectively bad. The pacing was all wrong, and everyone was late with their cues. The characters were one-dimensional, and plus I wanted a boy and got a girl. It just didn't seem to be the labor it was trying to be."
@AnkitSharma ^^
Hehehe!
@NapoleonWilson Rokay :)
 
6:38 PM
@steelersquirrel bookmarked
 
So...what's the difference in that and trivia?
 
@steelersquirrel It "adds to the appreciation of the work", I guess.
 
Okay...
 
As explained before, it often comes down to motivating your question. Careful wording can make a difference there.
 
Wording is the key
 
6:40 PM
But "what car's that dude driving in that scene?" on its own is problematic.
 
Alright
 
I know these things can look arbitrary sometimes, but the big point is that we're not IMDb. We're discussing films here, not listing a bunch of banal trivia. Noone really cares how many nazis Rambo wastes in Mad Max 5, unless that number is a major point to be understood..
Of course you can argue that the asker wants to know. But without telling us why, it's unclear to see how the question helps the internet at large.
 
@NapoleonWilson Hmmmm...okay
@NapoleonWilson Sorry. I guess that I have never seen it explained before
 
Oh. o_O
 
6:48 PM
I wanted to keep my name pervy sage but that can be interpreted wrong
 
@steelersquirrel Don't worry then. No need to be sorry. I thought we talked about it before. ;-)
 
Who knows. Maybe we did. Chalk it up to me not paying attention, I guess
Anyways, I will see you guys later :)
 
@steelersquirrel Awww, don't worry! ;-)
@steelersquirrel Awww, have I scared you away? ;-)
 
@NapoleonWilson No. Don't worry :)
I just don't feel well at all and I am going to try and get some sleep
This flu outbreak here in the US is kicking everyone's ass. Ugh.
 
Awww, wut? :'(
 
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Q: Is this Naruto reference in Ben 10 or just a coincident?

Ankit SharmaIn the end of Ben 10 episode 13th, we see town is back to normal and we see old man with three grand children: But this three kid appear very similar to Team Ebisu from Naruto: Even Konohamaru used to wear the goggles over his head Is it just a coincident or deliberate attempt to refere...

done
More later
 
I have a flu shot, but there are several strains of it this year. Ugh.
 
<afraid emoticon>
 
@steelersquirrel ohhhh :/
@Mithrandir Just got my yearling badge
 
I feel horrible. I woke up with a high fever, sweating, chills, sore throat...
 
7:04 PM
@AnkitSharma I still have another Phineas and Ferb question to ask, I keep forgetting.
 
So, I am going back to bed :)
 
@steelersquirrel :(
 
@Mithrandir I am on Naruto Rummage form today ;)
 
@steelersquirrel Hmpf, get wellsies! :'(
 
@steelersquirrel take care and no shenanigans
 
7:10 PM
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Q: Is this a deliberate Naruto reference in Ben 10?

Ankit SharmaIn the end of Ben 10 episode 13th, we see town is back to normal and we see old man with three grand children: But this three kid appear very similar to Team Ebisu from Naruto: Even Konohamaru used to wear the goggles over his head Is it just a coincidence or deliberate attempt to refer...

 
@MovieReel I have another one for Naruto but will ask tomorrow for the sake of Socratic badge
I got one Socraticin 2015 and second on 2016, in 2017 I become slacker I guess ;D
 
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Q: Identification Question Cleanup: Closing existing questions

Napoleon WilsonAs part of no longer supporting identification questions, we're starting the next phase of cleaning up the existing baggage, which is closing and locking all the existing questions. This process consist of the following steps, which will all be done by SE employees in an automated way. Closing ...

 
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Q: Looking for a movie title. Help?

Miserius DarkusI'm looking for a movie that I watched ages ago when I was a child. I don't remember the name but I only remember there are 2 female demons or monsters. They suck the nutrients of the victims from a thing looks like a plastic tube. In the end they beinng sealed and conjoined together in an egg sh...

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Q: Trying to find a film I watched about 17 years ago

Penny GrahamCan anyone help me find out what this film is?? All I remember is 2 children girls maybe about 12yrs were at a beach they met a husband and wife and the girls become obsessed with the husband one of the girls I think has love heart sunglasses they try to hurt the wife I think and I'm sure on...

 
@MovieReel you ruined front page again
 
Don't worry about it.
 
I am more worried about cleaning up space in iPhone
Apparently images take way more space
 
8:33 PM
@AnkitSharma a meme is technically used by more than one person
I count zero
 
 
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9:41 PM
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Q: Can't remember the name of this cartoon from the mid 90s

MatejIt was about a team of heroes, all of which had some sort of mechanized power armor they could conceal and summon at will. I think they were young adults. Not exactly kids, not grown up, late teens maybe. One member of the team didn't have the armor but would instead turn into a werewolf. They ha...

 
 
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11:31 PM
Why aren't the video links in movies.stackexchange.com/q/84954/206 converted into embedded videos?
 
@MartinSchröder it's because the normal hyperlink was used, ie. [Season 6](https://youtu.be/OtIqva339fI)
i think if you just have the youtube url and none of the markup it gets converted
 
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