@Canageek or landscape (too easy, boring) or set the table across both pages of a 2 page spread (an interesting challenge to do automatically from "classic" latex tabular markup)
Neither of which really work in my thesis, since it isn't done as a bound book, doubly so when trying to write out DNA sequences; if I wanted them to break I'd just wrap them. I decided that wouldn't work, given how much it was prodtuding into the margin; It would look quite bad sticking far out into both.
This is what the code looks in Xcode.
And this in my listing created with texlive.
And yes I used basicstyle=\ttfamily . Having looked at the manual of listings I haven't found anything about fixed-with or monospace fonts..
Example to reproduce
\documentclass[
article,
a4paper,
a4wid...
@StephanLehmke ah a table spread (sorry took me a while to get the context:-) nice with tex? (the properties says InDesign, or is it a bit of both)
@Canageek \exttt presumably (hopefully!) isn't in times, which font are you using? if it;s courier, more or less any monospaced font would look nicer than that? (actually cmtt isn't bad)
mathptmx has the math Times I need, but tgtermes has the better body text. Since they are the same typeface, or very close, they go quite nicely together.
@DavidCarlisle They're adding some pages to the document afterwards (like title and some intros), but anything which looks at all tabular, plus of course the whole body of the budget plan is generated by TeX. All the explanations (see for instance page 279ff) stem from RTF files (one per budget title number) which are transformed to XML and the typeset by TeX.
@DavidCarlisle Not for the use I'm going for; listing DNA sequences. Ideally, I'd like a non-typwriter monospaced font, something that fits in with the rest of the document a bit better.
@DavidCarlisle You don't ever need monospacing? I can show you my table if you want ^^ I just need some long strings to vertically align each letter, which seems like one of the few valid uses for monospaced fonts.
@Canageek no I meant I hadn't used tex-gyre before now (also apart from answering qns here for the last couple of months for fun, I haven't used Tex in a while:-( anway tex-gyre has a monospace that looks like teh 2nd line of this
the first line is cmtt and teh second line is \fontfamily{qcr}\selectfont
@Canageek an alternative (as i think used by listings package based on something I saw in an answer the other day) is to use a proportional font (say a sans serif one) but then just force the spacing so it is monospace, In theory this shouldn't be as good as you are abusing the font design but theory and practice don't always align
@AlanMunn A bit? I could lower the font size, but I'd rather not break the sequence as that makes it a lot harder to read. I wonder how it would look \small....*tests*
I want to make a command like \newcommand{\dna}{\texttt{\small}} How do I do that, so that it makes anything in \dna{} \texttt and \small? That way I can fiddle with the table without having to change all four environments.
You can make it a column type (if it's only going to be inside a table). \newcolumntype{D}[1]{>{\small\texttt}p{#1}} (assuming you are using the `array` package).
Then you'll need to use \multicolumn{1}{c}{Title} for the heading in that column.
@AlanMunn And by moving half my figures to the front of the relevant section, and half to the back I've managed to avoid them clumping up on their own page, except for two pages.
@Canageek Tables are really really hard. Just try to combine tabular* with cell backgrounds, try to have line breakt in columns without fixed width or try to get colspan or rowspan constructs to work in a sensible way. I have to say I'm not fluent with alignments at all, but looking at package sources I suspect some things will be next to impossible. For DocScape, I resorted to programming a completely new table model with boxes.
@JosephWright: We would need to ask the SE stack (maybe Jin et. al) to fix some elements of our blog (some CSS improvements and the logo itself). Do you have a suggestion on how could we draw their attention? I was thinking of a meta post, since our call to Rebecca in the chat seemed not to work. :(
@egreg Yes, you're right of course. I don't know what I was thinking. I don't use tt font commands almost at all, and I wasn't paying attention to the command/switch difference.
@DavidCarlisle :) I once saw another acronym used in a random SE site: SSCCE (Short, Self Contained, Correct (Compilable), Example). The word had even a link: sscce.org
I just received an "Association bonus" on my profile here. What's that for??? I thought that's something you get if you make a new account on another SE site but already have enough reputation elsewhere?
@StephanLehmke When you have a certain amount of rep on one SE site, then you are regarded as an "experienced user" and so get a bonus rep when you register to another SE site, which allows to do operations that are generally disallowed for new users (commenting, in particular).
@egreg That was my understanding as well. But I have only one account on another SE site, which is completely inactive with 101 rep, so why am I getting +100 on top of my rep here?
@egreg sorry for not being clear. Please look into my profile. There's a line there saying "+100 26 mins ago assoc Association Bonus" which I can't explain.
And I mean my profile on tex.stackexchange which is the only SE site I've ever been active.
@StephanLehmke Oh! I don't know; it happens sometimes that the system awards bagdes and, perhaps, bonuses by mistake. Check if the problem has been raised in meta.stackoverflow.com
@DavidCarlisle That user's comments was not especially nice. Note that W in MWE can stand for working as in something to work with because sometimes the problem is a compilation error and then the MWE should be some isolated code that trigger the error. Even if the acronym seems vague it seems to be the canonical way of denoting such examples and most users seems to get its meaning.
@AlanMunn I registered there last week, and I did receive an association bonus of +100 there which is why my rep there is 101 in spite of me being totally inactive there. But why should I receive a bonus of +100 here for registering there 6 days ago??
@StephanLehmke "If you are an experienced Stack Exchange network user with 200 or more reputation on at least one site, you will receive a starting +100 reputation bonus to get you past basic new user restrictions. This will happen automatically on all current Stack Exchange sites where you have an account, and on any other Stack Exchange sites at the time you log in." from tex.stackexchange.com/faq#reputation
So it might be that you associated with the other account and then you got the bonus for TeX.sx
I write a paper in French, I add a package \usepackage[english,francais]{babel} to use a French but when I write:
\begin{RÉSUMÉ} abstract in french \end{RÉSUMÉ}
I get the error:
! LaTeX Error: Environment R\IeC {\'E}SUM\IeC {\'E} undefined.
and when I use:
\begin{R\'ESUM\'E} résumé en fran...
For example, you might use one of the built-in chapter styles (p.88), and one of the built-in page styles (p.118-9). And don't forget to read memdesign.pdf
@PauloCereda Brilliant...
@PauloCereda You're clearly way ahead of any of my fusty old advice...
Hi, I have a quick question on using the preview package. I used psfrags as in this answer to typeset the labels in a figure obtained from a different program — the picture you see that is a screenshot of the output
Then in order to make a compact graphic automatically, I used \usepackage[active,displaymath,textmath,graphics,tightpage]{preview}. However, that produces a graphic with the xlabel partially missing
@DavidCarlisle"Just wanted to report back on the longtable / 2 column struggle. It was very tough to get the longtable to include all those multicolumn headers, fancy footnotes, siunitx decimal orientations etc AND have it flow into two columns. And have several tables in the document all playing well with each other. Unfortunately, I have given up on the 2 column route.
However, the good news is I have found pdfpages and include the tweaked tables directly into the document.
@PauloCereda I'm coming to the conclusion that for portability it may be the best way to go. That way I can still get decent typography, but I can also do stuff, for example, for Kindle or the Interwebs, getting away from PDF, which is great for *P*rinting, but little else.
@PauloCereda I thought of going with something like Markdown, but I find that a bit difficult to do anything really pretty with.
@PauloCereda I think the problem isn't in extending it, but in the fact that it has a linear structure (rather like LaTeX, surprisingly enough). I just have the gut feeling that DocBook's recursive structure is more comfortable, but I don't really know. (10 man-years later: "Hmm, I was wrong, back to raw memoir" LOL)
@BrentLongborough Oops. :P The translation might require some tweaking I guess. I don't believe a 1:1 mapping is possible, at least for complex stuff. :(
Man, my thesis takes forever (ok, 30 seconds) to compile now. I wonder what makes it so slow? I'd suspect pgfplots, but why would it slow it down after the figures are compiled? It doesn't redo them each time, does it?
Also, is there a way to get a bookmark for my abstract {Done with \begin{abstract} ..\end{abstract}, without adding it to the TOC? I'd love to be able to click it in the PDF sidebar, but I know that it shouldn't go in the TOC...
@TorbjørnT Oh, that would do it then. I thought it saved stuff like that in the aux files. How come it takes way longer when I edit them or add a new one then?
@Canageek people are so impatient these days, time was it took 15 minutes per page to run TeX (and you got printout back from the computer centre the next day)
@DavidCarlisle Fair enough. I remember back on my P3 it was normal for games to have long loading screens, and I had to swap CDs since I didn't have enough hard disk space for everything....
@DavidCarlisle I bet we could get it even faster if someone made a GPU version of the engine; It is just a lot of floating point math, right? Perfect for a GPU.
@PauloCereda Doesn't solve the issue; but it would then open up things like realtime compilation, or more computationally complex algorithms (There are always refinements if you are willing to spend more computer time)
@PauloCereda Oh, that would make sense. Is it the IO operations that are the bottleneck or the math? I figured it was the math, since it gets so much slower when you turn on microtype or pfgplots, which seem like math-intensive things.
@PauloCereda Frank's the one who had TeX-the-program in his head at one time, but actually my impression is that mostly it uses integer calculations (hence sp rather thna fractions of a point) and the few places it uses floating point arithmetic are carefully guarded so that you can not access the results from within TeX, for portability
@DavidCarlisle I also imagine that you can't really do things in parallel easily in core TeX, since so much depends on what comes before it. It would be cool to move things like pgfplots that don't care about the rest of the document into a seperate processes, so they could be figuring out what the diagram looks like while the main thread is building the document.
@Canageek If you were starting again, you'd do it differently, most notably in the area of page breaking. tex tries to ship out each page as soon as possible (unlike line breaking which is done over a paragraph). this meant you could process 1000 page documents in 1985, with essentially no extra memory requirements over a 2 page document, but there is a price to pay in having to do multiple runs and not being able to take a global view of page breaking...
As for TeX being so contest dependent, yes, see Frank's answer on the why is TeX so strange compared to C++ question.
core probably, If you start messing with that it's not really TeX anymore.
The problem with the multiple runs is not so much that you have to do them, as that it limits the information that you can pass from the end to the start to the sort of thing you can write as text to an aux file. If you look at th epullquotes thread and similar hard layout questions, what you really want to say is if I do thishere what will happen to TeX's entire tyoesetting state in the next column. that's not impossible to encode bia an auxiliary text file, but it's not exactly convenient
@DavidCarlisle Too bad. I wonder if you could add a program that would then take up your output, run over it as a whole and fix the page breaking? Have TeX output to a program, that looks as the output as a whole, which then outputs to PDF, instead of dumping to PDF directly. Then TeX would be preserved as is, but you could still get the upsides.
I believe there are commercial layout programs that have used teX internally at the paragraph level to typeset chunks, but all such chunks are laid out and composed by otehr language idioms (or by people dragging them around) or something
@DavidCarlisle That would actually be really awesome. I wish I could do that with Powerpoint, because well, arranging stuff on a slide is a pain in the rear. Though, I'll admit, Powerpoints templates have gotten so bad that Beamer far surpasses it in ease of making a professional looking presentation.
@DavidCarlisle Absolutely not. I said I must be loony mainly because I'm leaving the known comfort of memoir and TeXWorks for a strange and foreign land. It's neither the point of departure nor the destination that are loony, just the voyage.
@DavidCarlisle Not sure that XML is "safe and comforting". I was looking for a decent XML/DocBook editor, but not very impressed so far. And then I have to struggle with XSLT to build a memoir document. Yes, Loony's the word. Definitely.
@BrentLongborough real people who don't use emacs and don't mind spending money tend to use oxygen, (which is a nice xml editor if you like that kind of thing) and offers xslt debugging and stuff
I am about to write a couple of books using LaTeX. I am fairly used to producing small LaTeX articles using Sweave and R, but I have never written a book using LaTeX and I am not conversant with the LaTeX practices standard for writing books.
Also, though I have a few ideas about how to structur...
Well it is my religion. If others choose not to believe that is up to them. Plus don't think I have ever seen what exactly is required to become an official religion.
@JosephWright Oops I'm sorry, I was far from the PC. :( The text inside the dl tag was tight, even if I insert paragraphs, the blog publishing system was removing it, the pre code has a big gap in between paragraphs.
@DavidCarlisle I was afraid you'd say that. I have tried to learn emacs on four separate occasions over the past twelve years. I'm sorry to say, with zero effect. I suspect I'd sooner stick a pencil in my eye...
Really? I found it quite easy, the keyboard shortcuts are the same style as Windows; control or alt + other stuff. Not like vim, that thing is just weird. Also emacs has a GUI now, for if you don't know a certain shortcut.
Gotta love bash. I wrote a very long export command in a few sessions ago. Since I was lazy to go up until I find the entry, and knowing that the last export I wrote was the right one, a good !export did the trick for me. :)
I need a row of symbols to have same size, e.g. 20x20 pixels. Is there a way to set the size of a final picture/symbol to be rendered?
I've searched through their manual, but found nothing.
Can this be done? If so, how?
@Canageek We've tried to deal with this case-by-case. If you look at the MathJax questions, some have been broadly on topic (about LaTeX syntax) and some have not (about the way it works)
I finished editing a little bit ago, then there was the 'what if I move THIS figure HERE' game to see if I could get the floats to not clump into seperate pages.
@egreg I was going to steal the code from the first picture on page question and if pageref != next pageref \clearpage but O'm not sure if I can be bothered tinight
It's a bit tricky as you have to fid a good place to drop the internal label without messing up the fancy \@startsection vskip penalties and \everypar dance.
I need a row of symbols to have same size, e.g. 20x20 pixels. Is there a way to set the size of a final picture/symbol to be rendered?
I've searched through their manual, but found nothing.
Can this be done? If so, how?
This is what the code looks in Xcode.
And this in my listing created with texlive.
And yes I used basicstyle=\ttfamily . Having looked at the manual of listings I haven't found anything about fixed-with or monospace fonts..
Example to reproduce
\documentclass[
article,
a4paper,
a4wid...
I write a paper in French, I add a package \usepackage[english,francais]{babel} to use a French but when I write:
\begin{RÉSUMÉ} abstract in french \end{RÉSUMÉ}
I get the error:
! LaTeX Error: Environment R\IeC {\'E}SUM\IeC {\'E} undefined.
and when I use:
\begin{R\'ESUM\'E} résumé en fran...
