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9:00 PM
@LessPop_MoreFizz I'm not smart enough to know what that means. :(
 
@OrigamiRobot Oh. Eh, I don't mourn for the physical copies I could have sold, I mourn for all the content I can no longer get feasibly
 
@RavenDreamer It means that you can jailbreak a device to run jailbreak-only software on it, and you won't be sued for it.
 
Spyro 1 and 2 are $60 and $100 T_T
 
@LessPop_MoreFizz Aha.
 
And if I do buy it, which is the funny part, the creators no longer get any money
 
9:00 PM
But it doesn't mean that the manufacturer of that device can't void your warranty and refuse any sort of service or support to you once you do so.
 
@BenBrocka did I tell you about the time I was in marketing? that was... fun... in the sense of fun where I mean it only in the sarcastic sense.
 
@agent86 Yeah, I don't know what was with the large emphasis on fish throughout that pdf.
 
All it does is protect you from lawsuits under the anti-circumvention provisions of the DMCA.
 
@agent86 You realize I have to find where you live and hit you with a bat now
 
@LessPop_MoreFizz Is the Digital Millenia Copyright Act one of the bad copyright laws that people should hate?
 
9:01 PM
Jailbreaking is just as 'at-your-own-risk' as ever, and you are just as likely to break your device and not be able to get it repaired or replaced out of warranty if you do something stupid. But at least you won't get sued for it now.
 
@BenBrocka for calling marketing fun in a sarcastic sense? or because at one point I was in marketing?
 
@RavenDreamer ehhhh. It's better than 99% of what's been proposed
 
@RavenDreamer It's one of the copyright laws that people say is bad and largely do hate. I tend to think it's a case of trying to do the right thing in a lot of the wrong ways.
 
@agent86 The latter earns my bat..ter
 
@BenBrocka I would be fine if I had sold them. I was irresponsible.
 
9:02 PM
@LessPop_MoreFizz Are you kidding? That's what our government is great at!
 
It does tend to be the one that gets a lot of gamers up in arms because it's the one that includes the provisions against circumvention of encryption.
Specifically, the DMCA states that it is both a criminal and civil offense to circumvent any encryption or copy protection mechanism by reverse engineering or hacking it.
 
@RavenDreamer it has some really bad clauses, but it's not entirely unreasonable, but some specific provisions, like @LessPopMoreFizz points out, are pretty much aimed directly at allowing lots of harmful DRM
 
@BenBrocka I'm an Engineer. I have an Engineering degree. One day I came to work at the place that was currently paying me and they said "you're in marketing now." I said "how do I #include marketing, exactly?" And they said "no, this is a promotion, be excited!" I quit that job ASAP, but now I've seen how the sausage was made.
 
@LessPop_MoreFizz also movie/tv fans; "You can own this DVD and are entitled to a digital backup of it, but don't you dare circumvent our encryption to rip it."
 
Which, in turn, means that no-cd cracks, or ripping DVD's, etc. et al becomes illegal, under both civil and criminal law.
 
9:04 PM
@agent86 Sounds like your old employer must have been as stupid as a marketing department!
I suppose I can't blame you for that though
 
Because screw you, paying customers!
 
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@BenBrocka Who votes that down? "No, I don't want the ability to buy new stuff if I want. Because screw you that's why."
 
@BenBrocka Eh, it's not so much that they're aimed at allowing harmful DRM, as they're aimed at preventing you from circumventing any DRM. In theory if people didn't break the law after the DMCA went into effect, we wouldn't have harmful DRM, because it wouldn't be necessary. Token DRM schemes would be enough, because if nobody is trying to circumvent them, you don't need to make them more intrusive and harmful.
 
@MarkTrapp no idea, perhaps people that want to sort up other proposals I guess
 
@BenBrocka yeah, it was fun times! I met a few cool people though. Some of them I tolerated enough to continue speaking to!
 
9:05 PM
@agent86
 
@BenBrocka I got migranes. I never knew what a migrane was before that job. I have had almost none since I quit.
so yeah, me and marketing belong as far apart as possible
 
Wait, are we beating up @agent86 with bats? Because I've got this really pudgy one that could do the trick.
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@GraceNote you missed the battening.
better luck next time
 
That's yet to be seen
let's not be hasty
 
@GraceNote pictures Grace Note holding a fat Zubat
 
9:07 PM
Nah nah, Golbat is the fat one
 
whoops, didn't realize there was cursing in this song about bats
 
@BenBrocka They are both awful
 
man, today's star list is not looking good for me. can't you guys star something where I'm being awesome?
 
@OrigamiRobot look zubat is trying very hard to stick to his diet
 
@OrigamiRobot Crobat is friggin' awesome though. It doesn't legs and not afraid of nobody.
@agent86 snaps a picture of @agent86 in compromising position
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pins to starred list
 
9:09 PM
@agent86 I actually have this shirt.
 
@agent86 is that la pucel tactics?
 
Oh hey, bad flags from math chat.
Yes, 50 pings is annoying, but I don't think it's suspension-worthy, tbqh.
 
@LessPop_MoreFizz what happened to you, Math
 
@BenBrocka Yes
 
you used to be cool
 
9:10 PM
@BenBrocka yeah
although your spelling is incorrect
 
@LessPop_MoreFizz I think it does qualify as spam.
 
@IanPugsley Math has always been something of a problem-child tbqh.
 
by that statement, though, we were never, ever, ever cool
 
I think it's two L's and an E, La Pucelle Tactics
been a while though.
 
@LessPop_MoreFizz they're no us
 
9:11 PM
@RavenDreamer In this case, flagging it won't fix it though.
 
I only recognize Priere and zombie dragons
 
What's pinged is pinged.
 
sending cute little bats to horrible death sounds like an NIS thing too though
 
@agent86 This is also correct
@BenBrocka The other one is Culotte.
 
@agent86 well la-de-da Mr. Frenchman
 
9:12 PM
@GraceNote BOOM. See people, awesome is always close by when I'm around. Because I'm awesome. Just didn't want to leave that ambiguous.
 
I only know her because she's in Disgaea
And she wrecks people
 
@RavenDreamer That's the only reason to have a Golbat
 
@BenBrocka yeah, she was an optional boss fight in D1, as I recall
 
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Q: Do the copies of Mass Effect 1 and 2 on Amazon still install SecuROM?

AndrewI refuse to install SecuROM on principle. I bought Mass Effect 1 and 2 on Amazon for $12 - do theses include SecuROM or not? Wikipedia says More recent versions of Mass Effect on budget prices (those available on EA classics and Steam) have SecuROM omitted so I'm not sure if it will not hav...

 
@agent86 she's in D3/4 as DLC too, pretty sweet attacks
 
9:13 PM
@agent86 Also a DLC character in D3 and D4
 
I could do 25 million damage with her in D3
 
@OrigamiRobot I have a shiny Crobat.
 
I played D1 first, since LPT didn't get a release until the cult status of D1 was firmly established
so I had no clue who she was at the time
 
@agent86 D3/4 are waaaay less painful to paly btw
no more stupid weapon levels, oh god that was annoying
 
@BenBrocka yeah, D4's on my hit list for my shiny new PS3
 
9:14 PM
I have played 3 pokemon games: Crystal, Emerald, and Pearl.
 
I keep intending to ask some friends if they've got any PS3 games I can steal cough @EBongo cough
 
Man, nobody in Math flagged my really bad pi pun. I am disappoint.
 
I have only encountered 2 shiny pokemon, both in Emerald, within 6 hours of each other.
 
@agent86 sweet
 
And both water types, strangely enough.
 
9:14 PM
actually did you get your PS3 account?
WTF, how did you people get shinies
 
@BenBrocka Considering I have something like 200+ hours, and have only seen 2 shinies, I don't think I'm that lucky.
 
@BenBrocka no, it's out of the box, but I was laid up last weekend and couldn't really do the compromising positions required to hook it up. I might have to swap my TVs
 
I've played every damn generation except the latest and never once saw a single shiny. Beat ever game
 
Also, I got a Shiny Tentacool.
 
@Lazers Is that a good fit for the site?
 
9:15 PM
How useless is he?
 
@Lazers Seems like "too localized", plus other potential problems
 
@RavenDreamer I've probably played more and never seen a single one
 
@agent86 you should add me on my shiny new PS3!
 
@Sterno I don't think 'too localized', change 'copies on amazon' to 'retail copies after [date]'
 
@RavenDreamer we can be PS3 buds <3
 
9:16 PM
Since it's incredibly unlikely that they'd add it back
 
...whenever I sign up for PSN
 
@agent86 me too!
 
@BenBrocka yes, I haven't forgotten you :P
 
@agent86 Hey now. Hey.
Let's not go that far.
Baby steps.
 
PS3 buds are serious business
 
9:17 PM
I'm not sure I'm ready for that kind of commitment.
 
@RavenDreamer You guys have to play Rock Band together before you reach that stage.
 
@OrigamiRobot I mean, hey, I'll play rockband... as soon as I win it in the upcoming Rockband 3 promotion! Bwahaha!
 
Oh man I wish I had meant that to be the terrible pun that it is.
 
@RavenDreamer oh, yeah, I mean, uh, ha ha! Totally. Ahem.
 
@OrigamiRobot I have to tell @StrixVaria about this.
 
9:21 PM
@OrigamiRobot wait how did you reply to yourself! HAX
 
@OrigamiRobot All of my plastic instruments are for the Xbox
 
@BenBrocka use the numbers.
 
@agent86 It's easier than it looks.
 
@LessPopMoreFizz My thought is that you've got multiple Amazon sites (US, CA, UK) and we really have no way to answer which version they might happen to ship him.
 
9:22 PM
@Sterno That's why I said change to 'retail'.
 
Fundamentally, what he's asking is if there was a reissue of the retail edition of ME 1+2 that doesn't have Securom, since it has been removed from the game in more recent digital editions.
 
And that root question is pretty sound. You're getting hung up on the fact that he's asking about his specific case, and yeah, some editing could and should fix that, but there's a good question there.
 
@Wipqozn hahahahah
 
9:23 PM
@LessPopMoreFizz I agree that such an edit would probably save it
 
Which question are talking about?
 
@RavenDreamer yeah, I figured that as soon as I was typing
 
And for good measure.
 
@Wipqozn That makes no sense. The reapers only wipe out space-faring civilizations...
 
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Q: Do the copies of Mass Effect 1 and 2 on Amazon still install SecuROM?

AndrewI refuse to install SecuROM on principle. I bought Mass Effect 1 and 2 on Amazon for $12 - do theses include SecuROM or not? Wikipedia says More recent versions of Mass Effect on budget prices (those available on EA classics and Steam) have SecuROM omitted so I'm not sure if it will not hav...

 
9:23 PM
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Q: Do the copies of Mass Effect 1 and 2 on Amazon still install SecuROM?

AndrewI refuse to install SecuROM on principle. I bought Mass Effect 1 and 2 on Amazon for $12 - do theses include SecuROM or not? Wikipedia says More recent versions of Mass Effect on budget prices (those available on EA classics and Steam) have SecuROM omitted so I'm not sure if it will not hav...

 
Somebody else should do it though, because I am le lazy.
 
@LessPop_MoreFizz Well...have a nap
BUT ZEN FIRE ZE MISSILES
 
@agent86 @OrigamiRobot, @FAE, and I all have it on the 360 if you ever wanna play
 
@Tristan That dinosaur looks clearly spacefaring-capable. I mean, look at that visor-deal.
 
9:25 PM
@BenBrocka How do you zen fire a missile? Is that when you meditate on top of the launch button?
 
I tried an edit. let me know if it's awful
 
@IanPugsley I loaned out a decent percentage of my gear to my father in law, who used to drum in a band in years prior, and who is also a massive beatles junkie
 
@RavenDreamer Calm, perfectly peaceful destruction
Sex Offenders like Comic Sans
 
@BenBrocka You can register to be a sex offender? Sign me up!
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@BenBrocka people who register sex offenders like comic sans
I really really hope the people registering sex offenders are not sex offenders
 
9:27 PM
@Wipqozn There's an SMBC strip for this, and I have a feeling you'd just pick it out easily, too.
 
@GraceNote "I'm so good at sex, it should be illegal. In fact..."
 
Whenever I hear Zen, I always think of Sinfest.net
 
I love sinfest!
 
this has probably been posted, but some weird text in ME1 hints at the ME3 ending?
 
9:29 PM
someone shared that on one of my questions earlier
 
@BenBrocka I love sinfest!
 
@agent86 Considering the machine-devils are the reapers, unlikely.
 
@agent86 It's surely a reference to reapers but I wouldnt' call that a hint though
 
The text changed in ME3 to this:
Klencory is a rock and ice planet with an atmosphere composed of chlorine and argon. The frozen surface is mainly composed of potassium with deposits of iron.
Klencory is famously claimed by the eccentric volus billionaire Kumun Shol. His once-ridiculed visions of "beings of light" protecting organic life from synthetic "machine devils" don't seem quite so far-fetched now. His private army of mercenaries are well-established on the planet, waiting for husks to come knocking in on their door. In all likelihood, they will be obliterated by the molten metal of a Reaper orbital bombardment, on 
 
Besides, the Beings of Light are probably VIs like the Prothean VI protecting the Crucible
 
9:30 PM
Or just myths.
 
@RavenDreamer no you're a myth
 
To say that line predicts the ending from ME1 is grasping at emergency induction ports.
Considering they didn't implement the first draft of the ending anyway
(The Dark Energy one)
 
hahaha, I have started a ME ending debate! MY UNHOLY PLAN IS COMPLETE! BYAKYAKYAKYAKYA!
 
Mods are such trolls
 
It's the blue text.
 
9:32 PM
@LessPopMoreFizz Eh, I still don't like my edit, though it's better. The question should really be "Are there any retail versions of Mass Effect 1 and Mass Effect 2 which don't have SecureROM"? or some such
because as it stands even with my edit, it's still localized to a point in time
 
@RavenDreamer it does make us better than normal people
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@BenBrocka what, you didn't know modship was just a "get out of troll free" card?
 
@Sterno Not really. I think we can safely assume that they will never put Securom BACK on the discs once it's been removed.
it's a one way switch, so 'new' seems perfectly legitimate here.
 
I don't see them here, so no
 
@BenBrocka I detest the "normals" now. Once I had a taste of moderator power, I knew I could never go back.
 
9:36 PM
@LessPop_MoreFizz It'd be nice if mods had a "convert suggested edit to anonymous answer" button.
 
@RavenDreamer Yeah, as it is I need to reject them.
 
oh wait, this isn't our super-secret chatroom where we discuss how unwashed everyone else is? sigh I'm going to have to do some more memory erasing later, what a downer.
 
@agent86 It's cool, I'll set up the erasure beacon
 
@BenBrocka read this as "erasure bacon" and got (more) confused
 
@LessPopMoreFizz I just really don't like the word "new" in questions. It gets stale. "new" is going to look silly in 3 years. Anyway, I did one last edit. I think it still captures the intent of his question
 
9:38 PM
What's that? Two mods in the room?
I'll just leave this here then!
 
@BenBrocka this is worse than that time I accidentally revealed the location of the SE Mind Control chip all of them have installed. That took hours of work I could have been spending crushing people asking questions for the first time.
 
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A: Where are the Cerberus ciphers?

stargazerThe N7: communication hub doesn´t unlocks until after the Priority: Thessia mission.

 
@Wipqozn you could just flag as Not an Answer...
 
The ending caused it bulimia
 
9:40 PM
On the otherhand, we did get such engaging dialog throughout the game.
 
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Q: How should I be using the semi-automatic Sniper Rifles?

Raven DreamerMass Effect 3 has two main types of Sniper Rifle, the 1-shot clip heavy damage (Ala Mantis, Widow, Javelin), and then the Semi-Automatic multi-shot clip where each individual shot does much less damage (Viper, Incisor, Raptor). I know how to use the 1-shot sniper rifles (Find head in crosshair, ...

 
I liked this bit on Palavan's moon.
 
@RavenDreamer Heh, I still have an extra Xbox 360 copy to give away.
 
@RavenDreamer I always wondered how you spell that
 
9:41 PM
...WTF flags, WTF. |:
 
I just got that one
@TimStone thanks for making my click USELESS
 
Welcome!
 
Awww I missed it
Was it from Math?
 
Me too :(
 
@BenBrocka If you need me to ruin your fun again, just use the batsignal:
 
9:42 PM
@Sterno You're misreading new in this case. New is never going to be stale, because it means 'new in box from the retailer.'
 
@OrigamiRobot Nah, Super User this time.
 
We need to make one of those for @Mana...
 
Mine would be a Tacosignal
 
@TimStone Really makes me wonder who flagged that... :/
 
Some jerk was editing <kbd> posts and it was OFFENSIVE
 
9:43 PM
Or a Piggysignal
 
in Root Access, Mar 14 at 21:59, by slhck
Uhh. Now Diogo's only editing keyboard shortcuts with <kbd> tags.
I really don't know who flagged that.
 
I like this note from the Dwarf Fortress Dev log
 
@Wipqozn %^&ing Diogo. What's is problem.
 
> opposition to life now overrides peace with wildlife
 
@OrigamiRobot What would mine be?
 
9:44 PM
Because Elf zombies never killed anything.
 
Also, @Sterno does this answer your question? because if so, you should probably just self answer and take the free rep.
 
@Raven So do you take the responsibility of having all the money or should I ask someone else?
 
Wait, what?
Why are we giving me money?
 
@LessPop_MoreFizz ...why are they doing that?
 
@BenBrocka I don't know, but I've been seeing an uptick in it lately.
They're usually quite polite about it too.
 
9:45 PM
@Tristan Beats me
 
You said you wanted to be treasurer, well you said you wante the treasure, but same difference.
 
And always anon so I can't ping them or do anything other than steal their rep if I want to make their contribution valid.
 
I'm genuinely, actually curious as to why someone would think to do that
 
@Tristan Would it not be your cutie Mark?
 
Do you have to give an email to edit?
 
9:46 PM
@LessPopMoreFizz It partially does. I'd already run across that in a forum post. I still haven't seen a good explanation of where the batteries come from though.
 
ponies keep friending me on skype and I really don't know why
 
@RonanForman That or a rabbit or something.
 
Let's see how much this gets down voted:
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Q: Can we have a method to convert invalid suggested edits into their intended content-type?

LessPop_MoreFizzI've done a fair amount of rejecting of edit suggestions over at Gaming lately, and I've noticed (presumably due to our recent surge of new users), a sharp uptick in invalid edits that should really be comments, or even answers. In one case, the only answer a question has gotten, has come in the...

 
@RonanForman I was commenting without any context. What's actually going on?
 
@BenBrocka Don't think so.
 
9:47 PM
@RavenDreamer YouTube monies.
 
I don't even know what a cutie mark is. DON'T TELL ME!
 
@RonanForman Another name for "tramp stamp"?
 
@RonanForman pony tramp stamp
 
@OrigamiRobot From what? And for whys?
 
It's the thing near their buttocks.
in this case, a fist punching a dolphin shark.
 
9:49 PM
@Raven We need someone to recive the cheques from YouTube ads.
 
@RavenDreamer From advertising and because you are a mod.
 
@RonanForman you're already getting youtube monies?!
 
@RonanForman I volunteer.
 
We probably won't actually have any ads, but if we do we need someone to get them.
 
Took me a year and I just got my first $100 for the last two months :/
 
9:49 PM
@RonanForman What are you even going to do with the youtube money?
I would volunteer, but I would also spend it all on beer.
 
@Ben We probably won't get any money, but were alowed ads.
 
@Wipqozn Let's not endorse X on Shark violence!
 
If that is okay, you may forward all youtube money to me.
 
@LessPop_MoreFizz I suggested buying server space for our community events.
 
@RonanForman was gonna say, your views are still pretty low
 
9:50 PM
Also competitons.
 
You may also forward any other money with which you are not currently sufficiently enamored to retain to my accounts. I assure you, it will be spent only on the finest of beers.
 
@RonanForman: If we did get money, may I suggest we put it towards prizes for any tournaments we decided to run?
 
@BenBrocka Just wait till @spugsley does an LP full of creative swearing.
 
@Ben Is this the same as YouTube partnership or do we need something else for the thumbnails and such.
 
@Wipqozn This is an inferior use of money that I could be using to buy beer. Just sayin'.
 
9:51 PM
@Wipqozn I like this idea.
 
that reminds me, my laptop is waiting at home!
 
@RonanForman I'd just set up a new account, and give the password to mods / yourself. I'd rather not use my personal paypal account.
 
@RonanForman monetization is separate from partnerships now
you need a partnership to set your own thumbnails tho
 
@RavenDreamer Yeah, this is the correct idea.
 
As much as I enjoy FREE MONIES
 
9:53 PM
@Raven Sure, but we need an address to send the cheques too.
@Ben How do we get that then.
 
@RonanForman Then you definitely don't want me. I don't have a stable address at the moment.
 
@Wipqozn Harold and the purple Crayon.
 
@RonanForman Why not ignore the money aspect completely for the moment, it's likely no significant sum at the moment and the whole handling only leads to complications.
 
Hunh.
 
9:55 PM
@RonanForman high quality "original" content
 
Looks like the winners are gonna be announced tomorrow.
 
@Fabian I was kinda assuming it was a partnership thing too, but now I know it isn't maybe you're right.
 
@LessPopMoreFizz I don't know. Now he changed the question back because he wants to know if the specific copy he has has SecuROM
I wash my hands of it!
@Wipqozn You can substitute "snuggling with the spouse" and it works out pretty much the same.
 
@sterno oh calm down. I fixed it.
 
10:07 PM
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Q: Get public IP via console

ThiefMasterDo source engine based games (in my case Portal 2) have a console command to display the public IP steam will use e.g. when inviting someone for coop? Please do not suggest me windows commands like ipconfig or one of the "get my ip" websites; I know very well how to find out my current public IP...

 
Hm, I could probably increment my "Helpful flags" count, but I don't really want to flag my own question.... decisions, decisions...
I started another playthrough of VVVVVV today. GAH TRIANGLES WITH SQUARE HITBOXES!
 
Between the speed of the StackExchange employees and Amazon, my ME3 promo prize arrived today after sending my info on Tuesday. You rock, @Lauren!
 
10:23 PM
@DaveMcClelland Stop making me regret telling them to delay shipment for 3 weeks.
 
@LessPop_MoreFizz I didn't get a badass TV though
 
@DaveMcClelland What did you get? Keyboard?
 
@LessPop_MoreFizz Headphones. I use ergonomic keyboards since I'm always at my computer
 
@DaveMcClelland nice.
 
10:26 PM
@LessPop_MoreFizz If anyone's looking for a keyboard, check out the Microsoft Ergonomic 4000. I <3 it
 
@DaveMcClelland I hate ergo keyboards.
can't use them for the life of me.
 
@LessPop_MoreFizz The best way to get used to them is just to buy one and force yourself to use it. I'm in love with them now
 
@DaveMcClelland I use a laptop for all of my computing needs, so no thanks.
Given my need for portability, the last thing I want is to become dependent on a split keyboard.
 
Everyone talking about getting their ME3 prizes already makes me sad. =(
 
@tristan I hear ya buddy
Totally addicted to this YouTube channel:
 
10:36 PM
Can somebody edit my answer on the Ultra-Hardcore sign up on meta? Mobile site doesn't provide markdown editing for bulleted lists.
 
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Q: Quake 3 won't install on Windows 7

Ernest Friedman-HillToday I tried to install Quake 3 from my original 1999 CD on a Windows 7 laptop. Windows 7 resolutely refused to run the installer, helpfully explaining that I might need a 32- or 64-bit version, depending on what my OS is (you have to love those Windows error messages: absolutely correct, but as...

 
Nevermind. I got it. =P
1800 UTC = 1200 CST, right?
@Wipqozn pokes
 
FAE
@Tristan CDT, yeah
 
@FAE Oh right... We're in DST now, so... It's not CST. <.<
 
@Tristan ?
 
10:46 PM
@Wipqozn Nevermind. FAE got it. =P
 
ah, well. Way to go @FAE. Go girl power and what not.
 
FAE
@Wipqozn I feel like you need to cue up a Spice Girls song or something
 
I HAVE NO PICKAXE AND I MUST MINE
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@badp PUNCH TREES.
 
I don't think I know where the nearest tree is
 
10:51 PM
@badp PUNCH ROCKS.
 
crashes through the system to get that SPLENDID MASS EFFECT BAG
 
@Tristan I want to know how much time is wasted discussing DST
 
@BenBrocka Probably too much
 
I'msure the man hours lost vastly outweigh the slight theoretical decrease in energy usage
especially since studies have shown that moving DST earlier causes an increase in energy use
Not to mention it's THE STUPIDEST IDEA EVER
 
FAE
10:59 PM
@BenBrocka There's supposedly an increase in fatalities on the Monday after the clock change due to people getting less sleep or something.
 

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