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3:00 AM
@benn idk what the command looks like.
 
> It robbed people of ambition and therefore the drive to work harder. Everyone was required to work. You either worked or went to jail. Sounds fair...even nice until you realize your job is never going to earn you any great luxuries, and it's not like you can become anything you want to be. The lazy bums at your job earned the same amount as you and no matter how badly they slacked off, they knew they weren't going to be fired.
You begin to wonder why you're killing yourself when there's nothing special to achieve....
 
Yes, my example If statement makes that comparison
 
@Avery ^^
 
@rahuldottech this is just a specific case though
the concept is a very big one and doesn't even only go under name of communism
 
3:01 AM
Regex substitutions: Is it best practice to use the absolute shortest string possible to perform the substitution?
 
@Avery Fair enough, I have limited knowledge of this concept.
I really should go do some studiez. Goodbisies.
 
Similar ideas are visible in socialism or leninism or marxism or stalinism or maoism or dengism or hoxhaism or titoism or luxemburgism etc, and while some may be hard to apply to current society, some are more possible.
 
@rahuldottech Night
 
I mostly wonder about how a world with one of the more feasible ones would be like.
not "how life in soviet russia would be like"
yuck.
 
@bwDraco Careful, some regexes can look great but have horrible growth patterns w.r.t. input length
Oh wait I misunderstood
 
3:03 AM
Sep 6 at 17:21, by Avery
well, that or socialism or leninism or marxism or stalinism or maoism or dengism or hoxhaism or titoism
Is this level of specificity necessary?
 
I'm mostly giving examples about how branched the whole concept is
 
@BenN I'm talking about things like s/ous/ence/ to correct "conscious" to "conscience" as part of a longer sentence.
 
Indeed. I'm not sure; I suspect it doesn't make a big difference
 
@BenN Haha, it's early morning here :)
 
I might be inclined to preserve the semantics
But if you're talking about chatbot purposes, do whatever comes naturally :)
@rahuldottech Ah. In that case, have a good morning of studying :p
 
3:07 AM
Does using the shortest unambiguous string produce better performance when operating over large texts?
 
@rahuldottech how early?
 
Not sure - you could probably test that
 
@GwenKillerby 8:30 AM
 
date?
 
@GwenKillerby 16/09/17
That's dd/mm/yy
 
3:10 AM
@BenN Hmm... I don't think the difference is huge. So I guess it's just a matter of being concise rather than any real technical advantage.
I'd tend to prefer readability.
 
I would be inclined to agree
 
@rahuldottech i could tell by the "16' which one it was
@rahuldottech are you sure it's not 08:11 ????
 
@GwenKillerby 8:42, to be exact
 
hmmm you do half hours?
 
@GwenKillerby UTC+5:30
 
3:13 AM
weird
i suppose its more accurate
 
@GwenKillerby how so?
 
Example:
Mar 9 at 0:22, by bertieb
Separators for none!
Mar 9 at 0:22, by Bob
!! s/n//
Mar 9 at 0:22, by ChatBot John Cavil
@Bob Separators for one! (source)
@BenN ^^^
@Bob, care to explain?
 
Ah, there are style points in golfing the regex :p
 
Heh.
 
Basically it comes down to personal preference
 
3:18 AM
because I thought timezones now all jumped by the hour. Jumping by the halfhour is so 1960s ... @rahuldottech
 
...I think I get it. The whole point of the joke is that only a single character is being changed. That would be lost if the substitution were s/none/one/. (@BenN)
 
@GwenKillerby Jumping by 30 minutes still happens all over the world
Even 15 and 45 minutes
 
@rahuldottech Yeah, timezones can be crazy.
 
and besides, most timezones were decided in the nineteenth century or so
@bwDraco Agreed
 
@bwDraco We have a winner
 
3:20 AM
lol
This rather silly question goes to show how lacking my sense of humor is :P
😛
 
@rahuldottech i wanna bet that jumps by 15 mins only happens inside India...
 
@GwenKillerby India has a single timezone for the whole country, actually
 
even odder
 
I was talking about Nepal
@GwenKillerby It's not, actually
 
because thats what i thought
too
hmmm
too bad about Nepal
 
Bob
3:24 AM
@BenN @bwDraco generally only matters if backtracking occurs, which is impossible without quantifiers
 
Having a single timezone for the country is smart
@GwenKillerby Eh, how does it make a difference though?
 
Bob
ooh, well-written retro hardware question. If anyone has an answer, I think it'll HNQ:
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Q: Windows 2000 HDD to SSD migration- inaccessible boot device during normal boot but not safe mode

AdamI have a reasonable amount of experience with these kinds of issues but this one is just a little weird. I'm trying to keep a legacy computer going that's attached to a piece of equipment that my department can't afford to replace, but which is still used on a regular basis. I was going to try t...

 
because, it's not smart to have multiple timezones
 
@GwenKillerby India doesn't. Nepal is a separate country
The US has what, 5 timezones?
 
Bob
@rahuldottech not really
 
3:28 AM
it still took you this long to get rid of intra country borders and tariffs though. Good for you
 
Bob
China has a single timezone
 
4 time zones and russia has more
 
Bob
sunrise can be way too early or way too late
 
Chili on the other hand ....
 
Bob
it messes with your mind
really, depends on how wide the country is
 
3:28 AM
@Bob It is if there isn't a lot of daylight difference between the extremities of the country. We have like a 14 minute difference in sunrise
 
Bob
I can't imagine having the same timezone as Perth
 
@bob or, the continent. Poland vs France ets
etc
 
Bob
46 secs ago, by Bob
really, depends on how wide the country is
 
@Bob yep
@Bob Wait... does win 2k have diskpart?
 
only 14 mins?????? Seems too few
 
3:31 AM
@GwenKillerby Ah, no, I was wrong
Sorry, my memory failed me
It's more like an hour for most places
 
Even more for absolute extremities, but those places aren't really inhabited
 
So... time to become a full-time photographer, or should I continue searching for a job in the IT world?
(currently a part-time sports photographer)
 
Bob
whichever you like more
 
Most truly successful professional photographers operate their own business, which seems to be a requirement for a successful long-term career in photography (unless you work for a big, big company like the AP and shoot events like the Olympics and World Cup; this is actually harder than running a photography business)
The problem is, I see lots of horror stories about people going pro. Essentially, their hobby becomes their job, and the need to make a living means that photography is no longer fun.
To a degree, I'm already experiencing this, but I'm still primarily parent-supported so it's not a serious issue.
 
I'm not going to rule out photography as a long-term career path, but I suppose I'll just continue to look for a job in IT.
 
@bwDraco work your dead end job until you can live off of your hobby ....
 
I still like my current part-time job as a sports photographer but going full-time is probably untenable.
After all, while I enjoy what I do, going full-time involves far more than just taking pictures or improving them in post.
Apple still tries to present itself as the biggest innovator in mobile computing. Sure, Apple has the advantage of delivering new technologies in a single, cohesive package thanks to total vertical integration that's virtually impossible for others to replicate. But so much of this stuff isn't really new.
le sigh, AMP links.
(well, slow-loading pages do get SEO penalties, but AMP does not automatically confer an SEO advantage)
Night.
 
3:59 AM
Night
 
Bob
4:41 AM
@JourneymanGeek sounds like what you wish you had :P reddit.com/r/sysadmin/comments/70atmi/…
 
@rahuldottech random question: when you get approved, do you get a mail or something
 
5:34 AM
@Bob this man is a saint and a hero.
 
Bob
6:17 AM
what
 
Bob
6:41 AM
 
That's not right
 
Bob
No. It's not.
And I can't seem to sign in with a MS account in any apps now.
Great.
 
Bob
7:05 AM
Hm. That seems to be fixed now.
 
 
1 hour later…
8:23 AM
Hello!
 
¡ollǝH
 
Wait... a third hurricane?
 
@rahuldottech It's number 4 IIRC
 
@DavidPostill Wait, how?
Harvey, Irma, Jose...?
Which am I missing?
 
@rahuldottech Katia
 
8:38 AM
@DavidPostill It hit already? 2011?
Hurricane Katia was a classic Cape Verde hurricane that had substantial impact across Europe as a post-tropical cyclone. The eleventh named storm, second hurricane, and second major hurricane of the active 2011 Atlantic hurricane season, Katia originated as a tropical depression from a tropical wave over the eastern Atlantic on August 29. It intensified into a tropical storm the following day and further developed into a hurricane by September 1, although unfavorable atmospheric conditions hindered strengthening thereafter. As the storm began to recurve over the western Atlantic, a more hospitable...
 
@rahuldottech It hit Mexico Sept 08
 
@DavidPostill ow
 
The 2017 Atlantic hurricane season is an ongoing event in the annual formation of tropical cyclones in the Atlantic basin, the most destructive since 2005. It has featured Hurricane Harvey, the first major hurricane to make landfall in the contiguous United States since Wilma, and a storm which produced 51.88 in (1,318 mm) of rainfall in Texas, the highest-ever rainfall total for any Atlantic tropical cyclone in the United States and the fifth highest rainfall total for a tropical cyclone in the Atlantic basin. It has also hosted Hurricane Irma, the strongest hurricane ever to form in the Atlantic...
 
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8:58 AM
Any good Android launcher for senior/elderly person?
 
9:24 AM
But that's $10
 
Bob
@rahuldottech o.O
 
9:40 AM
 
Bob
@rahuldottech while true, if the typo is a missing ; then there's something very wrong with your IDE :P
 
> while true
 
Bob
lol
 
9:54 AM
@rahuldottech Where can I find description of this GIF?
@rahuldottech Cool
 
10:06 AM
The app for the prepaid sim I picked up is not.. completely terrible 0_0
 
Bob
10:35 AM
@JourneymanGeek lol, it does look alright
 
10:48 AM
@Boris_yo search for mind blown gif
 
@Bob it scales down well, gives me all the information I'd be interested in at a glance and no mystery meat navigation
 
11:02 AM
 
11:26 AM
Is it just me, or does the IHS look like its been badly sanded down?
 
@Avery Not sure, but I did get a ton of updates and stuff about "You have a message" or "Job needs actions" via email
 
@rahuldottech I thought it's Captain Obvious GIF
 
@Boris_yo nup
 
11:47 AM
@JourneymanGeek Aw. I want doggo, man.
 
 
1 hour later…
1:06 PM
> Family 23 Model 17 Stepping 0
 
Because removing a soldered IHS makes you "experienced at tuning"
 
That might provide some clues...
Family 23 (17h) is Zen.
 
@JourneymanGeek sanding down an IHS is a less experienced at tuning way to make better cooling
 
The model number is more interesting... 17 is 11h.
 
As is sanding down (aka lapping) a heatsink
Meanwhile I'm about to sand down or drill out parts of my laptop to put a bigger drive in
@Bob it says barracuda compute on it instead of momentus laptop, I hope that doesn't mean it's missing power management features...
 
Bob
1:12 PM
@CircusCat oof. 2.5"?
 
@Bob 2.5" 15mm
 
Bob
@CircusCat is that too thick?
inb4twss
 
Apparently that's the difference between the ST4000LM024 and the ST4000LM016
 
Bob
@CircusCat I'm actually thinking of pulling the HDD out of my laptop
 
@Bob well standard laptop drives are 9mm-12.5mm
 
Bob
1:14 PM
It's noisy, hot, and battery-wasting.
 
@Bob I've not had a HDD in any of my laptops for years. Or my desktops for that matter.
This probably wasn't a smart idea.
 
I've seen AMD increment the first hex digit of the model number with each generation of a particular architecture ...e.g. Bulldozer FX-8350 has model 2 (02h) and Piledriver A10-6800K has model 19 (13h). However, Steamroller A10-7850K is model 48 (30h) and Excavator Athlon X4 845 is model 96 (60h). So this doesn't prove much.
 
But I've unsealed it now so no sending it back.
 
But it still indicates a different die.
 
Bob
ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh boy.
> If you can't find the answer you're looking for, post a query on our Stack Overflow forum
 
1:18 PM
Regardless there's no other way I'd have got 4TB storage into a laptop for under £2k
 
@CircusCat lapping is polishing no?
 
@JourneymanGeek usually with sandpaper, which imo means it's just semantics
 
@Bob 9mm is the standard no
 
@Bob We are not a stinkin' forum ;)
 
1:19 PM
Also, why is the L3$ 4MB? I thought Zen had 8 MB L3 cache per CCX? This points to more significant architectural changes.
 
@CircusCat eh. Lapping means something specific.
 
The annoying thing is that they can make 5TB drives in 15mm there's no reason they can't make 3TB drives in 12.5mm except that they won't.
@JourneymanGeek for a dog maybe.
12.5mm would fit many larger or older laptops without modification. 15mm won't fit any laptop I know of yet they advertise a variant of this drive as a laptop drive.
 
@CircusCat the point of lapping is to make something flat. This looks like he took furniture sandpaper to it...
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek maybe they couldn't find a higher grit :D
 
@Bob also sanded in only one direction, looks dry sanded...
 
1:27 PM
@JourneymanGeek not when a dog does it
 
@JourneymanGeek lol. you don't buy sandpaper from the hardware store. try an auto parts store instead. on the other hand why bother? you might get a 5C reduction in temperature if you are lucky
 
@CircusCat oddly enough I've lapped silicon before. Engineering school...
 
Bob
@DavidPostill wha?
maybe a UK thing...
 
@JourneymanGeek I'm talking about lapping milk/water -_-
 
@CircusCat eh, that too...
 
1:28 PM
Anyway... Don't have my hot cutting blade or Pliers with me.... :-/
Looks like I'm gonna have to chop this thing up with regular scissors...
 
Yeah. This question is lulzy.
 
Bob
@CircusCat uhhh... I'd suggest not doing that -_-
 
@DavidPostill for that sort of thing, hobby stores probably have finer sandpaper
 
@Bob You won't get 2000 grit paper in a diy store here
 
@Bob I'd suggest not being me but that's another story... :-(
Should I just send it back and get 2x2TB SSDs?
 
1:30 PM
@JourneymanGeek It's not sandpaper. Sand is too coarse. Try aluminium oxide paper :)
 
Bob
@CircusCat that's probably a better, if more expensive, idea, yes
 
@Bob replacing the plastic midframe in my laptop is like $50-$100
Not to mention the old dell engineer broke the clips anyway
 
Bob
oh
 
The SSDs would be far better performance and power consumption too though
 
Bob
@DavidPostill ah. local hardware stores go up to 1200
past that I'd've suggested grabbing the brasso :P
 
1:36 PM
> Update CPU micro code to fix HT flaw issue
latest BIOS for my Skylake mobo... that's concerning
 
Bob
@DavidPostill I suppose 2000 before polishing makes the polishing a bit faster :P
 
what's a Hyperthreading "flaw issue"? a vulnerability? a stability problem?
 
Bob
@allquixotic stability, iirc
 
ooh, thanks
 
also... wet sanding ;p
(Very carefully)
 
1:39 PM
@Bob :-o how does Bob know these things
 
@CircusCat RSS feeds ;p
 
@Bob @JourneymanGeek for a change of pace (and something similar to that RPG we played a while back) we might wanna look into Divinity: Original Sin 2 at some point.
 
@JourneymanGeek Ahem. To polish metal use wet as in oil not wet as in water ;)
 
recent AAA-ish (at least AA+? :P) multiplayer co-op RPG
 
@DavidPostill actually water in small amounts
 
Bob
1:42 PM
:O
ah gadammit
I did a bios update a couple days ago ... and it's not even the latest
latest is availablea s a download on the site but not via the auto checker
asus, whyyyyyyyyyy
 
@Bob Gigabyte pulled that on me, too O_O
 
Bob
... it's a CAP file
I'm too lazy to dig out a flash drive
maybe some other day
 
Bob
@allquixotic on the plus side, Windows should've included the microcode fixes so I'm not too worried :P
 
it might be part of a conservative rollout strategy, where they let people who download it from the site break it first, then roll it out to all the updaters
 
Bob
1:46 PM
Linux too if you've got the (nonfree) microcode package installed
 
Bob
@allquixotic how are your updates, btw? every time I do one it resets all my settings so I have to go turn on RAID and hotplug again before I boot
I've already given up on maintaining the fan profiles
if gigabyte can avoid that, ...
 
@Bob mine does that too, but I don't actually use any custom BIOS settings; I think the only thing it changes that I dislike is turning off VT-d, but I don't use it anyway
 
Bob
ah
dammit
 
My Dell BIOS settings stay fine when I update
 
Bob
1:48 PM
@allquixotic yea, I still have two drives in ol' IRST RAID1
 
it boots up from my Adaptec HW RAID array automatically with default settings
 
Bob
so it breaks if I get toggled into AHCI
@CircusCat unfortunately Dell doesn't exactly sell mobos by themselves
 
I think my old Gigabyte board used to reset but became able to save settings between updates in a recent version
 
that bug where I/O is only responsive for a few seconds out of every 2-3 minutes reoccurred last night, btw... while I was trying to update my Adaptec everythings to the June 2017 release
 
Bob
I really should break the RAID and add it to my backups
but... lazy
 
1:49 PM
By recent I mean 4 years ago, when they stopped doing updates for that board
 
upgraded the firmware, AACRAID Windows driver, and GUI built on a customized Tomcat 6 toolchain and a web interface
 
Bob
@CircusCat Asus is smart enough to show a warning on first boot that you need to enable RAID if it was previously enabled
now if only they could figure out how to migrate that setting...
@allquixotic oh. ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww.
 
yeah, they run it on the default port too
also to keep arcconf (the command line client) from telling me my RAID card temperature is "abnormal" at 104 C, I have to run my GPU's fan at >65% whenever my PC is on
so I fire up MSI Afterburner :P
running the GPU fan harder vents more air out the back of the case
a few percentage points of GPU fan speed drops it from 104 C on the RAID card to like 92
 
Bob
@allquixotic poor airflow?
 
@Bob ya
 
Bob
1:53 PM
I'm sticking with either software or no RAID :P
not much benefit to hardware RAID, I think
 
Maybe I should put my laptop together and make sure the drive actually works before chopping it up
 
@CircusCat good idea
 
@Bob indeed
Back in the days of 1Ghz single core CPUs there might have been a benefit
 
._.
I keep it mostly simple...
OS, data, games (SSD), backups, backup NAS...
 
Bob
2:09 PM
@JourneymanGeek "simple"
one sec
 
@Bob at some point, I'd be throwing offsite backups into the mix...
 
Bob
and that's not including the 6 external drives I keep disconnected :P
 
@Bob compared to most folk here... it is
and a dead drive is shrug, replace and restore mostly
 
Bob
lol
that was my last two drive failures
well, the first one was
the second one was missing the restore... didn't have backups of it
(there's the whole bit of it being the backup drive)
 
tho backing up the backups from the NAS to the data drive is a bit slow :(
 
Bob
2:13 PM
lol
 
(I think I'm hitting 9.7Mbps at best...)
 
Bob
...ow
Mbps or MB/s?
 
Pretty sure the cable between the router the homeplug and the router is naff
the former
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek well, time to use those new cabling skills, eh? :P
 
2:16 PM
@Bob debating it actually....
 
Bob
@CircusCat now you just need to print it out and scan it :D
 
Nothing astonishing. Power usage seems reasonable. 12w total system power while benchmarking
9w while idling with drive on. Fairly quiet. No discernable vibration.
Waiting for the thing to spin down... Doesn't seem to want to
 
heh, now that I primarily do my development and testing on slow Sandy Bridge Xeon E5 VMs (shared by other users, too) with slowish HDD arrays, even if I upgraded the HDD in my work laptop to an SSD, it wouldn't do a bit of good
wish they'd upgrade to servers with at least a lower hypercall latency like Skylake
 
Bob
@allquixotic VMs on Sandy aren't that bad, last I tried...
Then again, I'm comparing against core2 :P
 
@Bob they're worlds better than Core2 (though the biggest single-generation VM perf improvement was Nehalem's introduction of EPT, obviously)
but they're still pretty slow compared to Haswell+, IIRC
 
2:26 PM
Doesn't spin down or hot plug. But seems to use about 0.6w while idle.
 
Bob
@allquixotic hm. you might see Haswell next decade :D
 
@JourneymanGeek Uhhhhh no I don't? There's no warranty label over the RAM / HDD compartment.
 
@Bob -_-
 
Bob
@CircusCat not a low-power model, eh?
 
Pretty reasonable, considering my desktop 4TB drives use 3.7w while idle.
 
Bob
2:26 PM
first comment:
 
considering these VM servers were purchased in like 2013, I think I have to agree
 
@Bob well as I say it's marked as barracuda compute rather than laptop but 0.7w is very reasonable for a laptop drive regardless
 
> rrgarlo
 
what
 
2:27 PM
Smells a lot like the sorta drives we'd shove into blade servers
 
Bob
> EVOLUTION OF THE INTROS

The first movie intro is innocent and infantile, everithing is fine
The second is infantile but not so innocent... all goes well
In the third, things change, not all is golden, but at least it is silvery, the world is still good, It's dark because night.
The four intro is darker, not night, just dark. But things go well, people have value and hope, but... Something is coming...
The fifth intro is so fucking hopeless and silent. In this point, Lord Voldemort is back. The logo is not silver anymore, now it´s iron, cold iron. At least, the music and the light at the
@JourneymanGeek compute 2.5"? yea most likely
 
@JourneymanGeek smells like that's what it became marketed as after they stopped advertising it as a laptop drive when it wouldn't fit any laptop
 
(at job -3, hottdamn)
 
servers with 2.5"? huh, I guess that's for servers that aren't supposed to do a lot of I/O, like memcached servers
 
Bob
@allquixotic 2.5" is a common config option. lets them cram a lot of drives in
 
2:29 PM
@CircusCat Some of these were old Sun boxes... so...
 
Bob
it's for more drives
 
@allquixotic mainly boot drives in that case.
 
@Bob does it yield better storage density?
 
@allquixotic kinda, and more flexibility
 
Bob
@allquixotic maybe. we're talking small SAS drives
 
2:31 PM
they could probably squeeze more NAND chips into a 3.5" and save on housing surface area, electronics, cables, etc. couldn't they? I mean they could have multiple NAND PCBs in a 3.5" enclosure
 
@allquixotic actually 2.5" drives overtook 3.5" for performance servers. Smaller drives are faster because the heads don't need to move as far. Which is why 15K RPM 3.5" drives usually had tiny 2.5" platters in them
@allquixotic well there's the 16-40TB 3.5" SSDs..
 
@CircusCat :D
40 Petabyte SSD? how many houses do I have to sell to buy one of those
 
Bob
@allquixotic cooling? idk
 
@allquixotic oddly rare
 
2:44 PM
@CircusCat WHAT
 
@rahuldottech yeah, data centre models
 
Hmm I do wanna keep the drive but don't wanna cut up my laptop
 
@CircusCat USB enclosure, obviously /s
 
2:46 PM
@rahuldottech helpful, for an internal laptop drive
 
High Sierra GM Candidate (probably going to be the final) loading up now, will be out for a bit
 
usb enclosures suck
I just carry a sata 3 to usb 3 cable
 
@Avery I need to get me one of those
 
0_0
superuser.com/review/suggested-edits/691580 How is this not a review audit?
 

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