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1:24 AM

@ThomasWard SPAM TO DEATH

4

Journeyman Geek

1:36 AM

@TheWanderer DEATH SPAM TO!

SmokeDetector

4:00 AM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL-only title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title, +5 more: newmusclesupplements.com/testo-boost-xs/ by juliancoolye on askubuntu.com

SmokeDetector

5:10 AM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL-only title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title, +2 more: eremaxadvice.com/aqua-refine/ by hpcr on askubuntu.com

SmokeDetector

6:43 AM

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[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL-only title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title, +3 more: healthprouds.com/biogenic-xr/ by noreenmalik on askubuntu.com

7:16 AM

@JacobVlijm Really busy at work is all...

@Fabby Hey, good morning!

How are you doing?

:D

Busy as always?

Guten Morgen!

Chat was open from last Friday, so logged on. It's an OK Monday-morning.

;) :) ;)

How are you doing?

:D

I was forced to reboot Windows this morning. Took me almost half an hour or so.

I had pending updates which got installed although all I wanted was my crashed wifi driver to get resurrected....

Other than that, I'm sitting in the university, database basics course.

Boring af so far.

7:20 AM

:D

Yeah... I sometimes wonder why we put up with Windows... but then I need Windows for work, so luckily i still have Ubuntu for pleasure!

;) :) ;)

Yeah, same.

Maybe I can get an Ubuntu system for work/uni in around 4 months or so though. We'll see.

Have a great day... Logging off

You too. Seeya

7:50 AM

Hi

I have Ubuntu 16.04 on My Laptop. I need software like Adobe Photoshop anyone can suggest me?

GIMP

eh

GIMP isn't that similar to photoshop

It is THE open source image editing tool.

How about Kritika?

It's not a PS clone and it might be seen as ugly, but it works. kinda.

7:56 AM

Sorry, Krita

If you need something between paint and paint.net, get pinta. if you need something between paint.net and photoshop, get gimp. If you need a digital art software, get krita.

Hmm... never used that, can't rate.

though you can install photoshop on ubuntu with wine

I need app like PS for create Portofolio apps

appdb.winehq.org/…

Portfolio apps?

Q: @-sign in samba username sometimes works and sometimes doesn't

7:58 AM

yes

I'm Android Programmer. And i want to create portofolio about my apps in android because i wanna publish the apps

b_jonas

9:27 AM

hello

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

10:10 AM

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my problem is on Ubuntu 16.04 with samba 4.3.11-ubuntu I have a number of users with an @-sign in the username. This has worked just fine over the last years (e.g. a@domain.com). Note: This is a standalone server. @domain.com is part of the username, not the domain of the server. Now I've added...

ubuntu samba

A: rsync error: syntax or usage error

CentOS askubuntu.com/questions/954714/…

Baby in Magento

10:52 AM

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A very simple solution would be to change your working directory to C:\wamp64\www. Your rsync command then would look like: rsync -avz -e 'ssh' magento3 user@111.11.11.111:/var/www/html rsync won't see C: then and accordingly won't consider it a remote system.

11:25 AM

@BabyinMagento windows=offtopic :P

Baby in Magento

11:36 AM

@Rinzwind windows is local system , but remote server is ubuntu..... please help me for this......

12:57 PM

this room is starting to look like charcoal hq

3

1:14 PM

→ 18 messages moved to Trashcan

@Avery Better now.

@BabyinMagento Help you with what?

Parto

@terdon Thank you. Much better.

Q: Boot stopped at "Started Update UTMP about System Runlevel Changes" - headless server... no X

1:51 PM

in Charcoal HQ, 13 mins ago, by CaffeineAddiction

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

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It's 8:27am. I haven't slept. I am exhausted. So I'm leaving this here and going to bed. I'll check it after. Pardon me if I'm slightly south of coherent. Ubuntu 16.04.3 LTS server running on a VPS. Got another VPS on the same host machine, CentOS6. CentOS vps is still chugging along. Ubuntu vps...

ubuntu systemd headless

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Q: Monitor file with Systemd service

I've got a file that is periodically written to by a service running on an ubuntu server. I've got another service currently running on a timer that checks the written file for changes from previous states and updates a mysql database table if changes are made. I'd like to setup some kind of se...

linux ubuntu systemd

2:12 PM

@terdon ssh on windows

(commandline ssh ...)

@Rinzwind Is it? @BabyinMagento posted somebody else's (answered) question which was about using rsync over ssh.

yes he got an error due to a wrong command style between windows and rsync/ssh

2:43 PM

OK. I was just wondering since BabyinMagento never actually said what the problem was.

@terdon see the topic he posted @12:52

I did. But since that was not BabyinMagento's question but someone elses and since that has an accepted answer, I assumed the problem was something else which BabyinMagento forgot to explain.

2:57 PM

but the 13:36 message assumes it is the same user :=)

5:12 PM

We might want to talk about having SmokeDetector in this room.

Its usefulness here may be limited now.

And it makes the room look like a ghost town.

Yeah. To be honest, I'm not sure it's helpful at all.

The chat messages, I mean.

Yeah.

I think most spam is dealt with quickly enough without the messages here.

They were great before smokey started casting flags but these days, anything I see here has already been deleted and all I do is clean out the room.

Hang on

5:26 PM

Huh. For reasons I am unclear on, it isn't enough to just kick the bot. We need to wait for the charcoal folks to come in. Or maybe @ThomasWard will do. If so, Thomas, please remove smokey from the room. Let's try it out for a while and if the spam load increases, we can bring it back.

usmanayubsh

5:39 PM

Referring to askubuntu.com/questions/954836/…. @wjandrea, you are breaking down a complete error message into a part you are formatting as text and a part as error.

When the whole text itself is an error message.

Why would you do that? :(

6:41 PM

@terdon I don't know how helpful the chat messages are overall, but over half the time I click through to a question smokey has flagged, the question has not been deleted and I cast my spam flag. When I look back at old chat messages, those don't still exist, but I can see the message when I'm in another room, switch to this room, click through to it, look at it, and I don't usually have to rush to flag it in order to delete it before it's already gone.

Based just on my personal experiences, it seems like the bot's presence in here is decreasing the amount of time spam exists on the main site and decreasing both the value and profits to spammers and the risks to users who might click spam links. That could be wrong, though, and even if it's right, I appreciate that it doesn't justify keeping the bot here if most people here want it gone.

WAAAAT

SE rate-limited my IP

Too many requests

@ByteCommander Like more than the regular rate-limiting? Like, your IP has somehow gotten on a list for special rate-limiting?

Oh. From you or another user?

I don't think I've seen that even when I connect to SE from a VPN used by many other users.

I was on my edit profile page and clicked the upload picture a few times because it refused to open and only showed dots for a while.

But not nearly an amount to be rate-limited for IMHO

other than that, f*ck DSlite.

Huh. Yeah that doesn't seem right. Do you have a unique IP? If there's no explanation for how other people from your IP could be using SE extremely heavily, this seems like an error that should be reported to the team@ address.

DSlite?

dual stack lite

shared IPv4 assigned by ISP

6:49 PM

Oh.

basically an ISP-level NAT, if I get this right.

Your ISP does that?

yep

I only have my own v6

/shrug

seems to work again

Btw, this room is extraordinarily dead currently. Only 10 people, whereas two of them are bots.

@terdon I'd have to yank code out of the bot but I can get it to stop reporting here

wat

7:04 PM

2 hours ago, by terdon

Huh. For reasons I am unclear on, it isn't enough to just kick the bot. We need to wait for the charcoal folks to come in. Or maybe @ThomasWard will do. If so, Thomas, please remove smokey from the room. Let's try it out for a while and if the spam load increases, we can bring it back.

wai

Because no mod is alive in the morning hours when most spam arrives here, so the room looks like a battlefield full of dead spam reports.

If I were a mod though, these hours would be much better covered...

hmm

I sense insinuation

insensuation

insisuwat?

opens dictionary...

insinuation?

you don't know that word?

huh

~implication

7:08 PM

I checked it.

Whoa...

But the second one was just made up by you, right?

tmpfs makes such a huge difference when running sbuild.

Builds are easily 4x as fast.

@ByteCommander ye

k

@NathanOsman I use a tmpfs for /tmp for a while now for a reason... :)

7:14 PM

hue

I should make a filesystem: HueFS

better not

it would be huerrible.

On another note, I'll probably finally get the epic badge tonight.

I'll base it on FAT32 except with a 512MB file size limit :D

Q: How to unboot my ubuntu 16.04 LTS?

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my ubuntu 16.04 LTS shows "booting in insecure mode", now i wan't to get rid of this booting. How to unboot my ubuntu?

boot grub2

WAT

unbooting?

srsly ಠ_ಠ

wat

idek what they're asking

I just said so, you don't have to repeat me

(should have come after the wat, I type too slowly)

7:19 PM

I'm case-sensitive; I said something different

>_>

Mark Yisri

7:41 PM

in Raiders of the Lost Downboat, 1 min ago, by Eliah Kagan

They probably don't know quite what booting is and want that message to go away, or perhaps they are concerned the message indicates a security problem and they want to fix that.

"don't know what booting is"

8:05 PM

does Verizon know that its website is terrible?

Prolly not.

what's that website grader?

also, my computer is delivered but no one can drive it down to me :(

and I need it tomorrow

Seth

8:31 PM

hire a courier.

hue

what is UPS if not a courier

@Seth come visit the east coast

while you're at it, stop by my house and school

Seth

@TheWanderer UPS is not a courier.

or is it

ACK. Why can't GPG be intuitive?

raisins

8:40 PM

gpg: [...]:error 58: Invocation of gpgme_op_verify
Invocation of gpgme_op_verify: GPGME: No data

What does that even mean?

@NathanOsman Well well I just stumbled upon your Stack Overflow Q while Googling :D

@TheWanderer wat? why didn't you have it sent to you?

because it was supposed to come last week

wait I'm confused

I'm at school

you're not where you had it sent to?

oh

I see

hue

well dock the seller points for slow shipping :P

9:00 PM

how can I check if the return of a shell command was not empty?

I'd say you either pipe it to wc -c and compare the byte count of the output with 0, or you pipe it to e.g. grep -q '.'

apparently -z is a thing?

Oh, seems so.

Well, then use that.

wtf is dc

Probably a calculator like bc?

9:10 PM

it's some command line tool on Android

dc is a reverse-polish desk calculator which supports unlimited precision arithmetic.

from man dc

tiny RPN calculator

agh

@AndroidDev do you know anywhere on the Android FS that isn't noexec?

Hmm... I can't get it to produce any meaningful output

Do you happen to know how to operate such a thing?

no

I found it because I tried to type cd

Great.

9:12 PM

and got it backwards

@TheWanderer uhh are you doing chmod +x ?

yes

You better not install sl then.

but /sdcard/ and /sdcard1/ are mounted with noexec options

@TheWanderer try /data/local/tmp

9:13 PM

ah

good idea

doth it work?

gotta fix some headers

yehs

bleeps

no

@ThomasWard just the fellow I was looking for.

I haz this: mentors.debian.net/package/qmdnsengine

9:18 PM

@TheWanderer wait so it didn't work?

no it worked

no to thomas

oh

ono

no file binary on Android?

install busybox

Android has a pretty slim userspace.

If you have root, give BusyBox a try.

9:19 PM

@NathanOsman cool, what do you need from me

Lineage OS has nano by default which is really nice :)

You have one of these built in somewhere?

maybe. but the switch itself is broken

@ThomasWard no, you meant to say it's permissions are 400

so now it's triggered by coffee, I guess

9:21 PM

@ThomasWard I can't remember what I'm supposed to do next - after uploading to mentors.

no, it's a physical switch, @AndroidDev. The actual switch mechanism is broken.

@NathanOsman find a sponsor by emailing the mentors list?

@NathanOsman though I'd fix that lintian warning

Okay.

maybe

@ThomasWard Which one?

BusyBox doesn't have file

9:21 PM

the yellow one, @NathanOsman

@TheWanderer Wat.

@ThomasWard I know. but I was trying to be funny :P

/shrug

@ThomasWard You mean lower the standards version? :P

The package conforms to a newer spec.

@NathanOsman then leave it alone.

9:22 PM

Okay.

unless they tell you to fix it :)

Right.

@NathanOsman well hmm actually Zach is right... it doesn't: busybox.net/downloads/BusyBox.html

Interesting.

I would have thought file was a ubiquitous command.

Apparently not.

^

9:36 PM

@ThomasWard I think novices may read the first paragraph there as saying that Linux systems can't circumvent Unix-style permissions on external storage, not realizing root can always get around them (on a normal device), that UIDs and GIDs may not match up across systems, etc. I know you're probably trying to keep it simple, but would you be willing to make clearer that the main issue is that the OP doesn't control the systems that will use the device? Maybe:

> Because this drive is going to be used on systems you do not control, or that are not Linux and don't otherwise support the Linux permissions scheme, you're a bit out of luck here.

Sorry for not just editing. I don't want to make it say something you're not trying to say, though, especially since the answer is already covering a wide breadth of security concepts and trying to make it make sense to people who aren't familiar with them.

Here we go: bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=875511

@EliahKagan just go edit it, if it's not what i want to talk about i'll just revert.

:P

we forget I have the diamond of pwnage and will just hit you with the hammer of power if you break my answer too badly:p

Sounds good, thanks. :) Edited.

9:54 PM

I'm suffering from the cross-browser compatibility blues.

@NathanOsman you put sponsor requests on the bugtracker?

weird

Not that kind of sponsor.

I just need someone with the right permissions to upload the package.

I know

but still weird that it's on the bugtracker

yano?

10:28 PM

@TheWanderer So I published an app yesterday and I've already gotten an email from "Your App On Top" and "Anna Appszoom" - are you getting scam emails too?

Apparently Appszoom is a company that you can buy reviews from

What the heck?

That's stupid

:(

Indeed.

rep cap is 200 a day right?

Sorry you and other app developers have to deal with that crap.

if I remember right?

Yeah, the rep cap is 200, but it excludes accepts and bounties. But for the rep cap related badges, I think you get them for 200 or over even if part of it is from bounties and accepts.

10:31 PM

then I've reached my rep cap for the day

first time in a while

all thanks to that single HNQ

OH YEAH AND I FORGOT TO MENTION IT'S UNDERHANDED...

Gosh

Congrats on hitting the cap!

it's all because the question ended up on the HNQ list.

which I wasn't expecting lol

I guess people were interested!

this has happened before too but meh

10:34 PM

Or actually I have no idea how the hot questions algorithm works.

it's rare I hit rep cap :)

@ThatBrazilianPony you need the community to agree to reopen it

or a moderator to do so

which question? because it depends on the question and closure circumstances

@terdon Smokey shouldn't report here anymore by the way

we snipped that out of its code base

@ThatBrazilianPony you don't

it's a bot

@ThatBrazilianPony link to the question

@ThatBrazilianPony okay let me say something

when I say "Community" i mean the close vote reviewers

or the moderators

in this case that question is ancient, why do you want it reopened

That Brazilian Pony

I had suggested and edit it to make it (at least a bit more) on topic, and the suggestion was accepted

a lot of the close voters are in here by the way :P

That Brazilian Pony

@ThomasWard Because the issue affected me, I found a way to solve it, wanted to add a new answer, but I couldn't because it was closed.

@EliahKagan you're one of the close voters there, still think it's offtopic?

it's a really old question (2012)

That Brazilian Pony

10:39 PM

Ok, forget it then.

@ThatBrazilianPony erm, what?

... that... was weird?

What question? Is this about How do I change the name of a printer in GNOME 3?

mhm

which I just reopened because I don't see how it's offtopic anymore

since our scope has changed over time :P

Yeah I had edited that with the idea we might reopen it, but didn't decide if I should vote to reopen. I'm definitely fine with it being open. Btw @ThatBrazilianPony please feel free to ping me in chat (works if I've been here recently enough so my name autocompletes) or comments about anything I've commented to say should be closed/reopened. I've deleted my "off topic" comment, but earlier @EliahKagan in a comment on the post would've notified me.

Q: How to install Mint Debian over OpenMadriva?

10:58 PM

@AndroidDev all the time

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