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1:00 PM
So yeah, Reversal is one tough old bird.
 
@PaulWhite oh 150 times. hahahaha. I don't think that will happen too soon.
 
@hot2use the silver badge is tough enough. Only Paul and Aaron have that, although several of us are working on it, apparently!
 
2 hours ago, by Paul White
@Philᵀᴹ Aaron B has 139/150 for Legendary
Epic really ought to be Gold.
Legendary, what, Platinum? :)
 
@PaulWhite on this site it should be.
 
legendary should get you some username flare
like a merlin hat or something
 
1:02 PM
Definitely.
 
a black diamond
 
jon skeet's soul
 
I must say, I'm surprised this answer apparently went totally unnoticed yesterday. I was expecting at least a comment from someone say "eh, CHECKSUM??!! That's CRAAAAAAPPPPP"
 
i missed that entirely
> asked Dec 20 '15 at 1:49
 
String    CHECKSUM value
-------    ----------------------
UQES    -646260358
SQMS    -646260358
RQQS    -646260358
QQSS    -646260358
UREQ    -646260358
SRMQ    -646260358
RRQQ    -646260358
QRSQ    -646260358
USEM    -646260358
SSMM    -646260358
RSQM    -646260358
QSSM    -646260358
UUEE    -646260358
SUME    -646260358
RUQE    -646260358
QUSE    -646260358
 
1:09 PM
@MarkStorey-Smith G'day - back in blighty?
 
@PaulWhite lol.... that was quick
 
:39225278 sup?
 
Paul - how did you come up with that so quickly?
 
Copy and paste from a Connect item
 
ahhh
 
1:11 PM
@PaulWhite nothing at all
 
sweet as
 
i'm surprised the indexed view question didn't get an answer overnight
 
Linky?
 
@sp_BlitzErik the one about the readpast hint?
 
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Q: Why does the READPAST hint cause indexed views to be ignored?

MarsI am investigating using the READPAST hint to reduce resource locking in our application's financial subsystem. It seemed like a good way to go because financial transaction records are only ever added, never updated or deleted. The only rows that would ever be skipped are brand new rows inserted...

 
1:12 PM
I was thinking the answer would be along the lines of the query optimizer doesn't know what the indexed view might looking at without a lot of extra work, making the readpast hint unusable.
but what do I know about that kind of thing... not a lot.
 
2 hours ago, by Paul White
Six giggly squeaky drunk kiwi women in one car is quite an experience
this describes several of my fetishes
 
@sp_BlitzErik the kiwi fruit or the animal?
 
@sp_BlitzErik Thanks!
 
first I've misread it as 'is quite expensive'
 
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A: Are there ways to only replace SQL Server stored procedures when the definition has changed?

Nick ChammasWe recently had this discussion at my workplace. First, I want to commend you for doing the "right thing" by using HASHBYTES() over CHECKSUM() to detect changes. Microsoft specifically cautions against using CHECKSUM(@input) for this purpose as its collision rate is very high compared to that o...

 
1:15 PM
@MaxVernon yes
 
@McNets Funny the first one we dropped off tonight asked to be let out at her house "just under the streetlight" ... "where I belong".
 
@PaulWhite ;)
 
@PaulWhite hat-tip
@sp_BlitzErik lol
 
six in a car -- do you have a limo or are these just tiny hobbit women?
 
@sp_BlitzErik Stationwagon.
 
1:17 PM
@PaulWhite wood panel sides?
 
Ha. No.
I wish.
 
@PaulWhite do they call them Estate Cars in NZ?
 
@MaxVernon Someone might do, but I haven't met them if so. example
 
oh someone shoot me :-) I recommended WITH (NOLOCK) to Aaron. dba.stackexchange.com/questions/99043/…
 
@sp_BlitzErik Front seat, 3 in the back, 2 under the cover. Every quality evening goes this way.
 
1:21 PM
@PaulWhite Holden?
 
5 mins ago, by Paul White
I wish.
Camry
@ConcernedOfTunbridgeWells Wife and I would both love an HSV ute one day
 
@PaulWhite - would you delete this comment, or turn it into an answer, in light of Aaron's already great answer?
 
Was trying for a cheezy pun: Holden -> hold'em -> "No, they wore seatbelts". Got nowhere. Help me out here, guys.
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BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
2
 
@sp_BlitzErik The joke or Paul's car preference?
 
1:27 PM
@TomV why not both?
 
@MichaelGreen Made me smile as was :)
 
you're too nice to be a mod
 
How he can be a moderator and not drink amazes me.
 
another one!
you have to have the soul of a monster to work with sql sober
2
 
You try to be nice then someone accuses you of not drinking.
No wonder Nelson's scared of you.
 
1:34 PM
poidh
oh wow, the initial question here
 
@PaulWhite I have 0 "great questions" that I want to answer at the moment, despite having 20 favorite tags
 
@JoeObbish you'll need to keep asking question yourself
 
@sp_BlitzErik I like how it has "pls" in the url
@Lamak asking questions is a huge pain
 
@JoeObbish that's about where user courtesy ends on that site
 
@JoeObbish I know, that's why I haven't post a question yet
 
1:38 PM
i have a question that i'm saving for a rainy day
 
how could you know if you haven't asked one?
 
Always frightens me when people post questions on here with stuff that looks like banking code, and they're migrating to MySQL. Shudder. dba.stackexchange.com/questions/182681/…
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@JoeObbish ....
 
@Philᵀᴹ or MangoDB (and no, that wasn't a typo)
 
you are right. Even thinking about asking a question is a huge pain
 
1:39 PM
that's more like it
 
you'd think that with oracle maintaining mysql...
 
Surely somebody will suggest moving to PostgreSQL instead
 
since that's a "real" database.
 
ahem
the only real database
 
oh, right. Thanks for clarifying
 
1:40 PM
@TomV someone will
 
Pfft, not even SQL Server is real. </Evan>
 
@Philᵀᴹ I remember one time I saw a question posted in SO by a coworker. How did I know?, because he was using our tables in his code, with a schema for his user, real table names and posted real data as a sample....
 
@Lamak I've run into a few of those, although they didn't leak IP or data
 
I heard that slap from here ;-)
 
answered one of them
 
1:41 PM
he probably lets SSMS save his passwords too
what a scrub
 
apparently the person never checked to see if an answer was posted
 
@JoeObbish a few?, guess I'm lucky then that I only saw that once
 
@Lamak a few as in asked by my coworkers
 
@JoeObbish that's what I understood
 
1:44 PM
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Q: Set Default Isolation Level to RSCI

Select 'DBA'Anyone ever set RCSI as their default isolation level across an org without testing every app? I understand the implications, just gauging risk / reward. We’ve had many performance issues that would be solved by using RCSI, and I haven’t heard of or seen any issues with the 10-20 servers we’ve se...

@_@
 
@MaxVernon I'd have my friend answer it
 
thank you
 
Oh, well it wasn't really a problem (from my perspective)
 
@PaulWhite i only see one glass there
 
@sp_BlitzErik and?
 
1:46 PM
@PaulWhite how do i know it's not just for mrs. white?
 
@sp_BlitzErik trust. also she's asleep (1:46am)
 
@sp_BlitzErik I only see "Imgur is over capacity!"
 
@Lamak I found the full source code to an ex-employers very expensive billing & rating software, all on GitHub. I contacted them & it took ages for them to get GitHub to take it down. Ended up being a DMCA github.com/github/dmca/blob/master/2017/2017-05-15-Amdocs.md
 
@Philᵀᴹ ok, you win
 
@PaulWhite well, i'm glad i'm not the only one who drinks alone here
@Philᵀᴹ we've found a lot of our code and training material on various code hosting sites. usually contacting the user who posted it gets things taken down pretty quickly.
 
1:49 PM
Is it Beer O'Clock yet?
 
@sp_BlitzErik I see it as a plus point
Hard to trust someone that doesn't drink alone regularly
 
@Philᵀᴹ Been and gone.
 
@sp_BlitzErik I'm fortunate enough to live next door to my local pub, and there's always someone awesome in there. No need to drink alone :)
 
@PaulWhite I must apologize - I was under the impression you were tea-total. And now I think about it, I think I may have made that incorrect assumption before.
 
Had THE BEST DINNER EVER last night. Behold!
 
1:55 PM
@Philᵀᴹ you can't be trusted then
 
Chillidog == success
 
from here it looks like a chicken breast
 
@Philᵀᴹ nice
we have those here too....but they're not called chillidogs
 
@PaulWhite Why a Merlot and not a Carbenet Sauvignon?
 
that's an odd coincidence
was looking at the lunch menu today and one of the items has cabernet sauvignon as an ingredient
 
2:02 PM
 
Showing off your mussels
 
No mussels, clams
 
Hungry now...
 
it was a pun
like everything Forrest says
 
oh, sorry
 
2:09 PM
Friday afternoon lethargy has set in
 
Yup, I mostly lurk to soak up SQL knowledge, but will throw a pun in sometimes. Maybe one day I'll actually contribute!
 
@MaxVernon I rarely drink at conferences, perhaps you were thinking of that.
 
@PaulWhite hmmm that does ring a bell...
 
@hot2use We're just going through a cheap Merlot phase. Was sparkling wine last summer.
 
@McNets I believe the intent was "showing off your [cooking] muscles"
 
2:18 PM
@Forrest By losing the identicon?
 
@JoeObbish Yes, yes now I've got it
 
@Philᵀᴹ What's a chillidog?
 
@PaulWhite Ouch. Fine, maybe...
 
@Forrest I kid. It's just a joke thing. If you're happy as a pink cross, that's sweet as.
 
huh, you've never said that to me...
 
2:21 PM
@PaulWhite Yeah, maybe random pink geometry is my thing
 
@JoeObbish Quite so.
 
his is better than mine though
he won the identicon lottery
this database has 21k views, is that a lot?
 
From an aesthetic point of view I rather prefer the orange one.
@JoeObbish Yes.
 
so contrary!
 
@JoeObbish how many of them are nested?
 
2:24 PM
Not at all. You don't really think some random on the internet cares one way or the other whether you have a picture or an identicon.
It's a thing because it has comedy chat value.
 
@sp_BlitzErik how would I check? the dependency functions?
that sounds like too much work
 
Are they even populated without schemabinding?
 
I'm going to say less than 1% of them
 
i'm not sure that's tracked
 
0% have schemabinding
@PaulWhite you're not a "random"!
 
2:25 PM
@JoeObbish Answer: 4
RFC 1149.5 specifies 4 as the standard IEEE-vetted random number.
3
 
@PaulWhite This is particularly true when ypercube™ answers your questions... I always picture this floating tesseract entering the room and giving me an answer... "oh, thanks mr. tesseract"
ok, thats me for the day...
 
so.... contrary...
 
@JoeObbish A bet's a bet
 
at least we can agree on that
 
2:34 PM
I don't understand that. Can I get a T-SQL version?
 
You wouldn't understand that either tbf
 
if n % 2 = 1
HARSH REALM PAUL
 
if he says that kind of stuff about me
just think about what he must think of everyone else
scary...
 
@PaulWhite A hotdog with chilli con carne on top
 
2:35 PM
I only tease people I like
@Philᵀᴹ Oh! Thanks
 
@PaulWhite that leaves me out. hmpf.
 
@sp_BlitzErik You're saying I've never teased you, correct?
:wow:
 
he knows that he deserves it
he lives in NYC
 
Erik's got too much meme game anyway
You have to pick your battles
Luckily I only understand about 40% of what he posts here
 
@PaulWhite you've got me beat there
@JoeObbish you should take a bus here sometime
 
2:39 PM
whoosh
 
I'm pretty sure that's possible
wonder how many days it would take
 
@sp_BlitzErik Is it only me that has an image of Joe in shorts and a cap carrying his cartoon lunchbox on the bus?
Care Bears or somesuch
 
There it is
 
wow
it's under 24 hours
 
2:41 PM
joe strikes me as more of a brony than a care bears type
 
MODS
 
@sp_BlitzErik with you up to "brony"
Noun: brony (plural bronies)
  1. (slang) A (usually major) fan of the animated television series My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic, typically an adult male.
  2. For more examples of usage of this term, see Citations:brony.
  3. brony f, f pl
  4. genitive singular of brona
  5. nominative plural of brona
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Oh!
 
(6 more not shown)
D:
 
Spookily, My Little Pony was my first thought, but Care Bears crept up on the outside.
Pretty sure that's a unique chat message.
 
@Forrest You're in the right place. I just talk bollocks most of the time. I'm sure @gbn will agree.
 
2:53 PM
@PaulWhite spookily indeed
 
> I am using SQL Server 2014 Management Studio installed in my system.
I'd see a doctor (VtC: Off-topic)
 
@ConcernedOfTunbridgeWells Hey buddy! Bucharest most of the time through the summer months as no footy on :)
 
@McNets Your answer will probably get downvoted on this dba.stackexchange.com/questions/182693/…
 
@Philᵀᴹ why, OP said there is a unique ID
@McNets there is a unique id field yes — Peter 14 mins ago
 
A unique ID does not imply an order
 
3:02 PM
See you guys later on
 
adios muchacho
 
@Philᵀᴹ is right there =(
 
@Philᵀᴹ ok deleted
 
Your answer was technically correct, hard-coding the order :)
 
This can be solved other ways too, I think.
At least, in PostgreSQL it can be.
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3:18 PM
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A: Why does the READPAST hint cause indexed views to be ignored?

Paul WhiteThe READPAST hint is semantic-affecting. Reusing the example table and indexed view from my article Another Reason to Use NOEXPAND hints in Enterprise Edition: CREATE TABLE dbo.T ( col1 integer NOT NULL ); GO INSERT dbo.T WITH (TABLOCKX) (col1) SELECT SV.number FROM master.dbo.spt_v...

 
@PaulWhite check out this sql mastermind larping as a humble kiwi
 
A live action role-playing game (LARP) is a form of role-playing game where the participants physically act out their characters' actions. The players pursue goals within a fictional setting represented by the real world while interacting with each other in character. The outcome of player actions may be mediated by game rules or determined by consensus among players. Event arrangers called gamemasters decide the setting and rules to be used and facilitate play. The first LARPs were run in the late 1970s, inspired by tabletop role-playing games and genre fiction. The activity spread internationally...
Yes I had to look it up
 
@sp_BlitzErik you misspelled "aussie"
 
i'm really not sure where in canada either one is
 
yesterday, by Paul White
grrr
 
3:36 PM
paul is drunk and angry now
 
Only way to live a fulfilled life
 
i'm gonna get a lot of living done this weekend, boy howdy
 
@sp_BlitzErik me too thanks
 
@JoeObbish what are you baking?
 
@sp_BlitzErik 😁
 
3:42 PM
if I bake anything it'll be fancy rice krispie treats
 
Ooo chocolate cornflakes
 
chocolate... cornflakes? at 3 am?
 
after 2 bottles of skinny girl shiraz paul starts feeling peckish
 
Actually I have a craving for red velvet cupcakes
 
I do need better equipment
had to whip something by hand for 45 minutes the other day
5
wasn't a good experience
 
3:46 PM
@sp_BlitzErik merlot!
Ok that's getting starred
 
Has no one told you that this is a family friendly website?
 
Baking is family friendly. Whatever do you mean?
 
actually it isn't always
some things have a lot of alcohol in them
maybe that's what I should make for Erik
pick the recipe with the most booze
 
Does the alcohol survive the baking process?
I expect some of it does
 
@JoeObbish impressive
 
3:50 PM
If you use enough I think it can
 
@PaulWhite in fact, some of it almost always does
 
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A: Cooking away alcohol

JoeYou will never fully cook away alcohol, only reduce the amount. See Alcohol retention in food preparation, or for the quick table, see wikipedia. They covered this on an episode of America's Test Kitchen, and concluded that surface area matters -- a wider vessel would cook off more alcohol; it ...

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@JoeObbish yes, please bake me a bottle of laphroaig 18
 
that's discontinued
 
3:52 PM
with that attitude maybe I'll give something to Brent instead
 
@JoeObbish he'll just make @sp_BlitzErik eat the alcohol part anyway
 
hottest contestants? you guys are so direct down there
I'll make that for you if you come to pass
pretty good deal imo
 
Send to P.O.Box 3604, Paraparaumu 5032, NZ.
 
that website is so pink
 
3:54 PM
Appeals to bronies
 
why is there a cursor in this code
 
because you're typing it?
 
@PaulWhite I though you didn't know "pop" culture or whatever
 
More dynamic that way
@Lamak @sp_BlitzErik educated me earlier
I'll have forgotten it by tomorrow
 
I don't use cursors
ask Paul
 
3:57 PM
@PaulWhite so that's why you are drinking
 
@sp_BlitzErik you're lucky I don't flag this
flagging things brings in the swat team, apparently
 
2 days ago, by Joe Obbish
never seen a dynamic cursor
 
@JoeObbish you can move it to trash, though
 
@Lamak how?
 
moving that to the trash is a declaration of war
fyi
 
3:58 PM
it belongs in the trash
move it there yourself if you don't want war
 
@JoeObbish I realized now that I don't remember how
 
73
A: A guide to moderating chat

bluefeetWhat tools are available to room owners? Room owners are users that have some elevated permissions in a chatroom. Typically, they will be the first line of defense when it comes to inappropriate content or behavior in a room. Users will look to the room owners to guide the room. The room owners...

amateurs
 
@PaulWhite thanks!
 
25% to 200 rep today
 
post more
 
4:01 PM
how do I find our trash room?
also I've never clicked the arrow before
 
alt + f4
 
@JoeObbish Type Trash in the name box and choose the one with the dba logo

  Trash

DELETE FROM "The Heap" WHERE message IS NOT DISTINCT FROM tras...
 
doesn't show for me
do I need permissions there or something?
 
@JoeObbish hold please
 
try now
 
thanks
 
no worries
I think this wine may be evaporating faster than I'm drinking it
 
> @CheckDate = CAST( EndDate as nvarchar(50) )
> mfw
 
Has to be written that way.
App restrictions.
 
@JoeObbish where are you seeing that?
 
4:18 PM
@Lamak in code I'm reviewing
I just don't understand
 
4:36 PM
hm.
i hate that this runs
IF 1 = 2
    BEGIN
        DECLARE @i INT;
    END;
SET @i = 1;
SELECT @i;
 
Yeah.
 
Can I join the fun?
 
@sp_BlitzErik Arguably worse:
IF 1 = 2
    BEGIN
        DECLARE @i int = 5;
    END;
SELECT @i;
 
which springbank is that?
 
@hot2use cool
 
4:44 PM
@PaulWhite sql is garbage
 
@sp_BlitzErik No the S is from a different brand. It's a 1994 Benriach
"S"ignatory.
But yes, I do have the occasional Springbank now and then.
 
@hot2use ah, cool. how's the caol 18?
 
With a wee drop of H20 very good. On its own: depends on my attitude. Sometimes I love and other days I'll not enjoy it at all.
 
cask strength?
why the agua?
 
Somedays it's just too much. Other days, I'll even drink the Big Peat neat.
43%
 
4:56 PM
@hot2use I love some of the Ben riach flavours
 
Erik I have a noob question for you
so the "18" means it was aged for 18 years before being put in the bottle, right?
does that kind of stuff make that big of a difference?
 
My favourite is Laphroaig though
In case you haven't tried it you should
@JoeObbish yeah the liquid evaporates through the cask over time
 

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