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12:24 AM
I don't think there's any way around it, the algorithm is going to make the cccc-info pin go down with time
 
Yeah but the last pin actually stayed on top until it fell off the board
This pin hasn't remained there even 24 hours.
I think mod-pin-weights are high enough to keep it on top with a few of them, but not with just one or two
 
12:42 AM
Deusoviosity! Please solve my latest number base puzzles before I get hospitaliszed for heat prostration. You solved my difficult ones.
It's 110 F in the shade here.
It's too hot to even spell correctly.
(quick to check to see if that worked)
Nope, still unsolved.
I never have any idea of how things appear to others.
I hope to get a clue before catching a hint and dying of ignorance.
... true, I can make anything look good for anyone else in almost any medium, but when it comes to self expression I am lost in the wilderness ...
 
If Humn can't spell ... what chance do we have understanding him?
 
I meant typing, not enchantment.
It really is so hot here today that I had to pull out the spare keyboard.
Even the cat melted, not just because of the name "Butter"
@JohnDvorak , I can still cast spells. Under my breath, where it's cooler.
(Sometimes I type incomplete sentences for fun. Gareth McC didn't like that so I tried to stop. Today it's just too hot to make it to the.)
 
1:07 AM
hi
 
Hawai'i?
 
😠
 
Aloha, terve, salud, salute', ave, and greetings!
Salam and shalom, even. Why not a puzzle that greets every language?
Namaste!
(Again, this stuff doesn't come from a dictionary or thesaurus, whether spelled right or cast recklessly. My mind echoes every loud voice that shouted at it.)
(Even shouted through print.)
 
1:25 AM
LOUD
 
Eh?
Thank you for reflecting the joke, @DestructibleLemon. Every whisper is as good as a shout.
 
@humn I SAID, "LOUD"
 
Say it with emphasis.
(Another piece where a brilliant bass guitar was undermixed ... another unsolicited opinion)
(Being a subbass clef player, I relish parts where they're not just 5ths and 4ths.)
("Subbass" doesn't mean what it looks like!)
(It means below the clef.)
(Though I am a baddass too. You want me at your side as well as in your band. I dare the improbable, against all odds. And heal well.)
(That looks like nonsense, doesn't it? It is, and it's not. In person I am disgustingly cute but frighteningly intense and have backed that up, and healed to live and tell.)
(Don't let that happen to you.)
Actually, I don't know what to advise anymore. Bookstores and libraries have security cams and street bullies seem to be wimps now. I might as well go back to being a bad example.
My friend's son got busted doing things that I do all the time. I said, "if you'd only asked me how to get away with it, you would have." He actually hates me so much that he didn't want to know. That's paternal loyalty.
And I like his father too! Just that my friend doesn't. I introduced them to each other.
If you live long enough, enjoy the irony.
 
2:09 AM
...
 
so do you just do a monologue here every day now?
 
... trying to get others to logue along ...
I step back when there's actual solvetry going on.
 
"solvetry"
I'm not so good at the "solve" but I do a bunch of the "try"
;)
 
!
Just looked at your record, @stacksfiller. Apparently you do a lot of "succeed." Wow.
 
2:22 AM
@stacksfiller get those nymphs away from the altar!
 
???
n _ n
better?
 
not far away enough
I need to sacrifice things there
 
I do not know what game is being referenced here
-if one at all
 
Skin a cat in your spare time. Not a live one. But don't kill one just to make sure!
... that came out way stranger than intended ... liistening to Residents while nobody else puts up a video ...
 
Anyone down for a game of Contact?
 
2:32 AM
I'm half-way down
 
good enough for me
 
2:51 AM
... and nobody puts up a music video? ... doesn't have to be the best in the world ...
... that's how Fun Game (newly dubbed) Theory works ... anyone who steps on the field is welcome! Just step on the field. You'll outperform everyone else as the game goes on.
 
Well, I'll put what I'm listening to, but it's not really a "music video"
 
Thank you!
 
OSTs are good for doing stuff at the same time because they're literally designed for stuff to be done at the same time
 
While everyone is eating popcorn and sipping sodas.
 
:/
I mean for games, over movies
 
3:00 AM
?
(nice soundtrack, anyhow, thanks again)
(ay, the part at 9:34 is just what i needed)
 
3:20 AM
yeeeeeeeow, @stacksfiller, now at 12:34 they're resounding "Soon" by Yes!
(Really? took 20 minutes to get just 3 minutes ahead in the piece? The time ticks tell the story.)
Whoever is behind that soundtrack was inspired!
Now they're channeling "Le Sacre du Printemps" by Stravinsky.
And now "Peter Gunn" theme by Mancini.
And now "Firebird Suite," back to Stravinsky.
Nice melange!
 
3:40 AM
@humn, do you like rap?
 
When in a lilting voice.
 
hah ok
 
I don't mind other voices either, in other contexts.
But rap is a jig, far as i'm concerned, and has to pick up its heels.
 
Jig? What's jig?
 
A dance on tiptoes, not a saw for making puzzles (this time).
It's almost like having hot coals at your feet.
Better dance!
That's how i listen to rap. As if someone were dancing on embers, with their voice.
 
3:51 AM
Got it
Shouldn't have said rap. It's not really rap, at least not the traditional form. I like the experimental versions like this
 
Thanks in any case, my speakers needed that.
 
4:34 AM
...
It just doesn't end. My main musical muse just told he that her mother (well into her 90s) got arrested for leading a jailbreak from the retirement home where she's held hostage.
Like I said earlier, enjoy the irony if you happen to live so long.
And while at it, lead a jailbreak!
Can you imagine a squad car bearing down on people who need walkers just to move? Must've been some wild chase.
(It's not a real jail, but if you've even visited any place like that you know that most inhabitants are not present by their own volition.)
(But she really was arrested. My heroine!)
(For some pretense such as jaywalking. Streets are dangerous.)
... not at all the same corner of the world or the same situation, but a timeless classic worth repeating:
Legend: Car phone = an automobile telephone before handheld/laplaid/earplugged phones.
Legend: Yuppie = Young Urban Professional. An equivalent epithet before "Millenial."
(Show's how far behind the times i am. "earplugged" = "budded." Probably "handsfree" by now. See you in the future.)
 
5:07 AM
@stacksfiller osts are the best kinds of music videos
 
That's a riot!
 
"every time he says pen it gets weirder"
nah, the original video is weirder
 
too weird to link?
... think i found it ... now need an expectorant.
That really makes my face hurt from smiling so.
Gotta pass that along to my musical muse. She takes music so seriously - teaches it - but also has a sense of humr that needs a fresh tickle.
She also would understand all the dirty little references in that video.
My favrite part is where only the performer's face shows but you can tell what's meant outside the video frame.
Compulsory follow-up. "Penguin in Bondage":
 
 
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7:22 AM
@Rubio I think it's QUATERNION (group of four soldiers in Ancient Rome) = QUA(r)TER (heartlessly tear apart, namely into four parts) + (leo)NI(das) + O(rder) + N
 
By Jove, I think you've got it.
 
(I was missing something for QU for a long time, because I thought ATER was TEAR*. And it took ne some time to see that it's "before N, O". Nice surface and nice misdirection.)
 
yeah. Deus will probably yell at me for the missing comma, so ... like ... we'll just pretend that didn't happen :)
It was worth it for the surface
 
Did they have commas at all in Ancient Rome?
 
Nice :) I was racking my brain for ??????NINO words and came up short
 
7:26 AM
I like how that clue not only misdirects about what it's about, but even what part of the world it pertains to
 
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Q: Grid based color changing puzzle

SATI am trying to identify the minigame used in the game Fontanero (the code for it is here). It consists of a 3x3 grid of squares, and each square is red or green. You can click on a square to invert the color of every square in the row and column of the square you clicked on. The goal of the ga...

 
you could have said "four soldiers (10)" and I was still not getting that
 
CCCC: Fondness of gravity, firm mass, flat, without a space for travelling things (5, 11)
 
Hmm that first word
G+LOVE CO+M+[a]PARTMENT
????G wasn't helping very much :P
 
Yep, that's it.
 
7:40 AM
CCCC: Even leaders of alpine race followed sledder going the wrong way (7)
 
REGUL<+A_R_
 
Yup
 
This clue is, perhaps, not entirely legit. If nobody gets it relatively quickly I'll probably yank it.
CCCC: Regular infantry, perhaps, drain the blood, perhaps, from a British officer, perhaps, and they cover the walls with it. (7)
 
Are you sure it doesn't end in 'perhaps'? :P
 
It originally was going to end with a question mark.
I decided against it. :)
 
7:49 AM
@Rubio How's the new puzzle?
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Q: Mum certainly doesn't like it

Soha Farhin Pine Where a mass lives and which the mass dislikes. When one of the arms eats with a friend. If you do it up, you ruin. I've warned you already, don't do it with me! While in a it, you’re entangled in trouble An icky mash, also a gooey muck. What is "it" I am talking about? Let'...

second part still not solved
 
I'm not sure why the second part is there.
 
Letter count, actually.
It's about a number.
NUMB-ER
 
Ok but - again - I'm not sure why it's there.
The rest of it seems to be cluing "square" in more than one way, though I didn't spend a lot of time trying to figure it out
 
I was going to ask why firm was co but then I realized it while I was typing
 
Umm...another clue?
 
7:56 AM
Rubio's entirely legit clues already last for days, I'm scared of a not entirely legit clue
 
I initially thought the riddle would be tough
so...
 
but why are you making the solver work out some number, apparently, when the first part is already fully solved and is MESS, clearly not a number or anything related to one
 
It could be solved because of the hint.
And I edited it in
before the answer
was posted.
 
It's really not a good idea to paste something new onto an existing standalone riddle. It's likely to just be redundant at best (and it's, honestly, annoying having to solve the same riddle more than one way), or frustrating and confusing at worst (if, for whatever reason, the new part doesn't solve to the same thing the old part did - now what? what's the actual answer then?)
 
I'll play devil's advocate here and say that extra lines can provide good hints
I don't think it is the case here, though, since we even know what the solution is already and still can't get them
 
8:01 AM
Sure, but these seem to be a completely different section that is unrelated to the first stanza in clue type and in what they seem to point at in terms of an answer - I admit it's possible they may, again, point at the word "MESS", but it doesn't seem all that likely to me that they do
Also, adding lines to help give more info/hints to solvers is fine as it goes, when time has passed and nobody has solved it. That's not the case here.
 
It was there before any answer was posted.
So, it's not like I knew the riddle would be solved quickly.
And it tells you the number of letters there are in MESS.
 
Yeah but you added this within, like, an hour of posting the riddle. no?
 
for this second part - there's nothing telling us that the numerical answer is the letter count
The main part was well-clued (which is why it was solved much quicker), but the hint suffers from some of the guessing issues your earlier riddles had
 
Soha just added a line that purports to do just that. but again - none of this is even needed.
It's like me saying "Ok here's a puzzle: (What Shakira or Katy Perry do), (First Letter), (A hole in your skin)"
and then tacking on to the end "⌊ (10^3000) ⋅ π⌋ − 10 ⋅ ⌊ (10^2999) ⋅ π⌋ + 5"
and then being all like, ok go solve that
 
8:20 AM
hmm...
i wanted to make my puzzle a little different
a riddle for the word and a riddle for the letter count
 
At the risk of repeating earlier commentary on your puzzles -
Nothing in the second piece tells the solver what it is, or how it relates to the first part
Even the new line you just recently stuck on, doesn't look like it's telling me what to do with the answer, it looks like part of the second riddle
 
let-ter
allow-short for territorial
 
You should not be pasting two separate riddles together into one puzzle, first of all, without a really really good reason - even if someone is able to perfectly interpret all the clues, they end up with this:
MESS

SMALLEST NUMBER with equal factors, where the number of factors equals the factors themselves; also it's a SQUARE; count of LET-TER
 
SOURCE -> root
in the world without large
WORLD-L
=WORD
 
ok see
even knowing the right answer I still can't parse all these clues
 
8:28 AM
Hmm...
which means the second riddle is totally and absolutely pointless
 
Look through the other riddles on the site. (No. Really, Please, do this.)
 
How many of them do you see doing what you've done here, grafting on a second riddle to solve that (a) doesn't have the same subject as the first riddle, and (b) is there only to give a word length or something similarly ancillary?
 
Okay, can I just delete the second riddle?
I do get your point
 
Good. Cuz it's the point I led with. "I'm not sure why the second part is there." :)
 
8:30 AM
I always know I might be wrong
Done.
Now, satisfied?
 
It's not about pleasing me. It's about trying to help you make better puzzles.
 
It's both. :-)
 
In software design there's a thing called the Principle of Least Surprise -
 
ohh, lets hear it!
 
The general idea is that "People are part of the system. The design should match the user's experience, expectations, and mental models."
I bring this up because it applies to a lot of areas beyond just software design
A good puzzle shouldn't take the solver by surprise in a bad way.
 
Wait - you can edit a suggested edit and it doesn't go back into the review queue fresh?
 
It would be completely unexpected to find a riddle has two separate, unrelated solutions - because "A riddle gives indirect clues about an unnamed object or concept to be identified." ONE unnamed object or concept.
 
@boboquack correct
 
A puzzle that looks like a riddle but doesn't behave like one in that way wouldn't be very satisfying, and would violate the principle of least surprise for a solver.
So - don't do that.
 
@Mithrandir but what about audit history or whatever it's called?
 
8:39 AM
What do you mean?
 
@SohaFarhinPine sigh Look, again, edits to other people's posts are supposed to improve formatting, spelling, grammar, etc. - NOT to change the content of their post to what YOU think it should be. If you add or remove actual content - ideas being expressed in the post - you have made an edit that goes against the author's intent. Unless you have their permission to do that, or unless you're making editorial notes clearly marked as such, you need to stop doing that.
 
When people look back through the reviews and see how people have done reviews
 
I have no idea why anyone approved that edit.
 
If you think it's a problem, raise it on Meta Stack Exchange
@Rubio oh, whoops
I thought that she was the OP
Did I get all confused?
 
No. She's mucking with puzzledPig's answer.
 
8:41 AM
@Rubio No way! I'm not "mucking" with his answer
 
She's the OP of the question. So she was removing the part of the riddle that no longer is part of the riddle.
 
@Mithrandir I thought so too.
And I just removed irrelevant fluff in the answer
 
Thats how you see it
 
@Rubio if you seriously think that was a bad edit, you can override it.
 
"Ah, ok"
is that important to the explanation?
NO.
 
8:44 AM
Oh ok then - sorry it's hard for me to see what changed in that edit right now, I just saw a block of text that looked like part of their answer and not part of the question
Apologies for the lecture. (But the lecture was correct in its content. hehe)
 
Heh. Bad dog ;P
 
oh I meant to ask, your previous puzzle, my answer is no longer Accepted?
 
Umm...you said I can change the puzzle
 
Sid
I would say this puzzle of "mess" is better than your previous puzzle...
 
8:46 AM
and so I thought the new version
 
(For Rubio: Are all those "perhaps" really needed? o_O)
 
sure, but the puzzle solution is still the same, is it not?
 
@Sid In what ways?
 
Sid
At least, it was obvious that "mess" was the correct answer once someone got it
and it didn't feel too much of a stretch for the other explanations to fit. (At least to me)
 
@Sid This time, I spent more time on the puzzle
and did a lot of research before posting it
 
8:47 AM
Also, @Soha, feel free to pop in here and ask for a test solver for your new puzzles. Or you can make use of the sandbox on meta. I'd be willing to take a look at new puzzles, even if I'm not the best, and give some feedback. It might help with your puzzle quality.
 
@Sp3000 one of them is attempting to patch a bit of badness. one of them is there because I honestly can't tell for sure if it's needed or not, but I think it is. one of them is pretty necessary.
 
@Mithrandir Thanks for the offer! :-) I don't really like the sandbox, so totally yes.
 
Wow, that CCCC
 
yeah. I got a little silly :)
 
perhaps it is possible to solve..
 
8:50 AM
I'm very confused by "blood, perhaps" and "British officer, perhaps"... what could those be examples of?
 
see my comments a few moments ago to sp3000
 
I love it
 
Ditto ffao - it's mainly the third one I'm concerned about
 
In general, what does perhaps indicate?
 
At least blood, perhaps can be "fluid" or something (although if the intention was a blood type from AOB then I'd be concerned)
 
8:51 AM
yeah, if blood were AOB etc, then the example would be on the other side
 
Sid
@JohnDvorak could mean many things actually. Maybe anagrind, maybe citing an example, etc.
 
Anagrind DansGame
 
Anagrind = a fancy word that cruciverbalists use to describe almost every word in the English language
3
 
Usually "perhaps" is definition by example, e.g. : "Volkswagen, perhaps, dog, perhaps, Persian, perhaps (6)" (No attempt at a surface was made)
Sometimes it's an anagram indicator, but usually def by example
 
ok so I'll drop a necessary hint here because otherwise I doubt that second "perhaps" is going to cover my sin sufficiently. "blood, perhaps" is intended to yield "red", because "blood red" is a specific thing, but that probably still doesn't really patch it enough to be fair. So there, the ugliness revealed.
if "red" had worked in the surface how I wanted I'd just have used it, but - alas.
 
8:56 AM
see, Sp, I had reason to be concerned about the second perhaps too :P
 
@Sp3000 What is the answer to this one (I suck at CC's)
 
still can't quite tell if it's patched enough, but I'm tending towards no (as blood by itself is not a color)
 
Volkswagen in an example of what? A dog is an example of what? A Persian is an example of what? (Persian is the definition.)
@ffao Oxblood is, though. (That's just me being a smart alec, not an excuse for Rubio to clue red as blood, perhaps)
 
CAR+PET
wow, I actually solved a CCC---C---
 
Is that really it?
 
8:59 AM
yeah that's really it
 
what does "Persian perhaps" mean?
 
A Persian rug is a kind of carpet.
 
Sid
Persian Carpet. Definition by example.
 
@MOehm the things you learn
 
Sid
British Officer,perhaps looks weird. I mean,if it points to an example, it is probably unfair. I only know one British Officer. So, clearly perhaps is not for that. It's probably something else..
 
9:03 AM
"perhaps" used that way doesn't point to an example - it says what's literally in the clue is an example of something else you're supposed to use
I could put "dog" in the clue and expect you to come up with "pug" in the wordplay,
but I couldn't put "pug" in the clue and expect you to use "dog" in the wordplay, unless I said "pug, perhaps" or "pug, for example", or similar.
 
(I should also mention another way "perhaps" might appear in a clue is as a direct synonym, usually for "say" - just for completeness. Or as anagram fodder of course.)
 
So if you see that kind of formation, it may be signalling you to use a less specific thing, of which the text of the clue is an example.
hence - "definition by example".
 
Is there a word for foot soldier, that contains the word red?
 
not sure, but a British officer could be an example of a redcoat
 
That... actually sounds pretty good (assuming it's right, not good with history here)
 
9:07 AM
that is historically correct
 
Weren't redcoats just British soldiers, not necessarily officers?
 
thus "perhaps"
 
(But "coat" works superbly with the "cover the wall" thing, of course.)
 
Sid
But definition can't be in the middle of the clue, right?
 
correct - it has to be at either end (or be the entire clue, for a &lit)
 
9:11 AM
(From what I see so far I don't see a problem with clue legitimacy wordplay-wise, but it's just rather indirect. (indirect word) delete (indirect word) is usually quite tricky, let alone both parts being definition by example)
 
But it could be "and they cover the walls with it", so that "Regular infantry, perhaps" plus redCOAT could give some kind of paint coating.
 
red $\notin$ blood
 
Well. When you put it like that, it doesn't seem hard at all.
@micsthepick (yeah - I don't buy that and I wrote the damn thing. hehe. hence the "hint")
 
@Mithrandir Need your help
@Rubio Could you review a puzzle I made up just now?
 
probably
 
9:18 AM
Sure. You have an existing room?
 
No.
A new private chatroom can be created.
 
There is one already.
Join it.
 
Mention me on that.
 
@Rubio that's what I was asking. Link?
 
had to add you sorry
 
9:26 AM
@Mithrandir He unfroze that room.
Oh, you weren't there to begin with.
 
Sid
Ah, so that "haters" puzzle got so many lovers err, upvotes
 
link?
 
I thought it's a nice one
 
Sid
I am not saying it's a bad one. The OP just changed the question multiple times..
 
9:36 AM
They did?
Wait that's bad
 
the first revision of the question did not say that hate was mutual
then it said "no one hates anyone in the summoned group", which was changed to "no one in the summoned group hates someone else in the summoned group"
the second I think is just an English mistake
 
Huh
 
I feel like Rubio's clue is very nearly solved, but I don't know any words for stuff you cover walls with and I need to sleep
other takers feel free to deal the final blow to it
 
I feel the same way but I have no idea what relevant coat??? or ???coat words there may be
 
@ffao wallpapers, paint
 
9:44 AM
@Mithrandir ok, you got me. Words that have 7 letters and end in coat, preferrably :P
 
Plaster could work if Redster were a name for a British officer (but it isn't even a word) and the regular infantry could be pla (but I don't see that).
 
qat gives just a few 7 letter *coat words: boxcoat carcoat peacoat redcoat surcoat topcoat
 
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