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Bob

00:00

@IAmABot lol. whoops. left it so long cavil couldn't even keep it alive :(

allquixotic

00:11

hey Selenium Chrome Headless is "stable" now in C59

we can probably get that working with webdriverio quite easily :S

#pls

Bob

00:25

@allquixotic lol. I think you were trying the Chrome one

I was trying the Firefox one :P

Journeyman Geek

hm

Bob

00:54

@JourneymanGeek hm?

Journeyman Geek

Got handed an oddly nice old Acer. Odd slightly curved keyboard, c2d and .... Win 7.

allquixotic

@JourneymanGeek Core 2 Schmuo?!

Journeyman Geek

Yeah

Bob

oh yea that's right

I remember now

@allquixotic I'd tried Chrome but it's a no-go because they've designed a useless feature.

There's no way to persist local storage in headless mode iirc

and I think Firefox/geckodriver is still broken

Not Dog

01:11

!!taytaytayhello

I Am A Bot

@NotDog That didn't make much sense. Use the !!/help command to learn more.

Not Dog

Blargh. Can't get the bloody import to work.

Bob

:\

wait

WAIT

Not Dog

Lol Bob

If you have the bot working why don't you have the bot working working?

As in why am I even bothering if you have a working bot

Bob

:O :O :O :O :O

@allquixotic FIREFOX HEADLESS WORKS

@NotDog we were waiting for a working headless impl in a major browser :P

Not Dog

01:19

@Bob Four days ago?

Bob

I tested this a month ago with ff and ch

Not Dog

theguardian.com/music/2017/jun/09/…

Bob

@allquixotic *poke* you still around?

@NotDog oh, so she finished her tantrum? :P

Not Dog

@Bob Nah

Spotify came up with a new licensing option

Bob

o.O

Not Dog

01:22

> Let’s answer the main question right out of the gate: the reason Taylor Swift brought her albums back onto Spotify and to platforms she’s overlooked in the past few years, like Amazon Music and Pandora Premium, isn’t because
Katy Perry released Witness (although it may have something to do with the timing) or because Swift’s last album, 1989, sold 10 million copies (this is the official reasoning for the release) — it’s because of the new licensing deal between her distributor Universal Music Group and Spotify, and the realities of releasing music in 2017.

It's just a coincidence it happened the same day Katy Perry released her new album, obvs. -_-

Bob

Anyway, I'll see about getting Cavil proper back up once @allquixotic wakes up :P

Not Dog

Cavil is dead. Long live floofyfox!

Bob

@allquixotic ^

allquixotic

@Bob just now

Bob

@allquixotic wanna get cavil up? :P

allquixotic

01:29

YEEEESSSS

Bob

I have FloofyFox working in headless firefox

allquixotic

awesome :D

thank god for Mozilla

Bob

I hope there aren't stability issues

allquixotic

me too

is that nightly or a stable rel?

Bob

I suspect Chrome headless is still more stable (...and not Nightly) but you. can't. set. a. persistent. data-dir.

whose decision was that?!?!

@allquixotic still nightly. 56 works with ghostdriver.

55 is when headless will be released, so I suspect they'll uplift some bugfixes... it might work in next beta

@allquixotic do you have memory quotas/limits on the cavil container?

probably a good idea in case there's a leak

allquixotic

01:33

@Bob nah

Bob

@allquixotic maybe chuck a 2G or 4G on it?

allquixotic

but oomkiller will eat it if it's the most memory-hungry proc

Bob

lol

Not Dog

!!taytaytay

I Am A Bot

Not Dog

01:35

Suddenly I feel inadequate

All i have is this shoddy taylor swift gif

Bob

@allquixotic Could you do a git pull?

Not Dog

!!taytaytaylovesyouguys

I Am A Bot

Bob

@NotDog could you stop your bot? I want to bring cavil up, but that'd clash for now. and thanks for reminding us to look at this :P

Not Dog

@Bob G'night

I mean done

Bob

01:38

@NotDog 'night

Not Dog

Was going to do that before sleeping anyway

Bob

@NotDog thanks

Journeyman Geek

lol

I have this up on a sidebar at work

the animated gifs are sooooo gonna give it away

Not Dog

Oh did I mention my motorbike is stuck in the middle of nowhere because I accidentally ran down the battery from playing too much Ingress and can't start it up again.

So I had to leave it in a post office car park in a small village miles from town.

allquixotic

@Bob on my repo? sure

Bob

01:42

@JourneymanGeek you need to adblock images in chat :P

@allquixotic yea I pushed a couple minor updates

but I can't pull on your container cause privkey password

@allquixotic maybe use a deploy key in the container? :P

Not Dog

@JourneymanGeek this can't be the first time you've had a work while we've had a working chat bot

Bob

@NotDog O_O

allquixotic

sean@cavil:~/dev/SO-ChatBot$ git pull
Enter passphrase for key '/home/sean/.ssh/id_rsa':
remote: Counting objects: 20, done.
remote: Compressing objects: 100% (2/2), done.
remote: Total 20 (delta 10), reused 12 (delta 10), pack-reused 8
Unpacking objects: 100% (20/20), done.
From ssh://github.com/allquixotic/SO-ChatBot
   5204f4d..05e6646  master     -> origin/master
Updating d3d4bae..05e6646
error: Your local changes to the following files would be overwritten by merge:
        run-headless-webdriver.js

Bob

@allquixotic uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

just stash em and I'll look at the stash :P

oh wait you've already fetched

I should be able to manually merge locally

Journeyman Geek

@NotDog previous jobs sucked less

Bob

01:50

actually.

@allquixotic mind if I create a new account on the cavil container?

would probably be easier since i can have separate keys

oh wait no that wouldn't work, cavil's under your home dir

Not Dog

@Bob TIL, basically nobody carries jump leads in their car.

Bob

@NotDog apparently it's not good for modern starters/electronics

Not Dog

OTOH bought a portable li-ion starter pack off Amazon since it's the second time I've drained the batt doing something stupid and probably won't be the last.

@Bob not sure what the alternative is... Not starting it ever again?

Bob

@NotDog jumping it very very carefully? :P

usually it's more along the lines of using a portable jump pack or a slower battery charger

Not Dog

I can't conceive of any real reason why it'd be bad for the electronics.

People have said if you leave the other car running it might be bad but why would you do that to begin with.

Bob

01:54

@NotDog something about a surge damaging the jump donor

idk

looked it up briefly a couple months ago

personally, I don't think it's an issue, but ...

Not Dog

Yeah I've seen the same info repeated all over with no actual factual data to back it up

Bob

@NotDog hm? you're supposed to...

Not Dog

@Bob never even heard of them till recently

Bob

@NotDog they used to be pretty bulky till recently too

though I dunno how effective the tiny li-ion packs are

Not Dog

@Bob also seen that written in a few places but also a few more correctly saying the opposite. I

Bob

01:55

probably better for a little motorbike than a car

@NotDog wait what.

so both vehicles are supposed to be off?

tbh I've never seen that anywhere

it's always with the donor running

Not Dog

Unless you're trying to start a 4 litre diesel off a wheelchair battery, chances are if the battery of the other car can start its engine there's no need to be running the engine too to get it to start yours.

Bob

@NotDog that's what I thought, but I've literally never seen that advised anywhere

Not Dog

@Bob IMO in a basic jump start you're literally just borrowing the battery without physically swapping it

@Bob we'll find out tomorrow!

Bob

yea, that makes sense

question is, why doesn't anyone else say that :P

Not Dog

I've purposefully bought a tiny one. Will see how well it works, if at all.

Bob

01:58

@NotDog stand back :P

Not Dog

Bearing in mind it does say car jump start and I'm dealing with a 0.4l single cylinder motorcycle engine so it's hardly going to be stressed.

Bob

lol

@allquixotic I kinda feel like cleaning this up a bit

Not Dog

Bought basically the smallest one because a) cheap, b) fits into the screwdriver compartment and c) can charge off micro USB

Bob

hmmmmm

why are all the scripts going 644 => 755

Not Dog

Because chmod 777 would be erm...

Bob

02:01

oh it's a+x on the live container

weird.

Not Dog

Yknow 'chmod 777' would be a cool name for a tech fail blog.

Bob

run-headless.js
run-headless.js.2
run-headless-pjs.config.json
run-headless-webdriver.js
run-headless-webdriver-pjs.js
run-pjs.sh
run.sh

because that's not confusing at all :D

Not Dog

!! Caat

Bob

not up yet

Not Dog

Too soon?

Bob

02:04

still dealing with git shenanigans

That REDACTED Guy

@JourneymanGeek Dolan pls. I constantly have RA fullscreen on my second monitor at work.

@JourneymanGeek Moving ~~furniture~~ computers sucked less?

allquixotic

@Bob go ahead

@NotDog you're one to talk about ch* commands :D

Bob

@allquixotic I give up on git; I'll just manually merge :P

or. or!

@allquixotic you could commit what you have and force-push. I'll merge on my end.

probably easier

Not Dog

@ThatREDACTEDGuy I had it on my 4th. When I had a work.

Bob

then you can pull again and we'll be in sync :D

hm. deploy keys would work well - they can have write access => i.imgur.com/Q38J5eK.png (@allquixotic)

but I can't add it to that repo - you'll have to do it

bwDraco

02:18

in PC Hardware News and Rumors, 33 secs ago, by bwDraco

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/dell-area-51-desktop-amd-ryzen,34767.html

This is a huge design win for AMD. We have not seen an AMD processor grace a flagship Alienware desktop for years.

Bob

@allquixotic I'm doing the manual merge. At this point, please don't commit anything; we'll have to sync it properly some other time (when you're more ... around) :P

bwDraco

@Bob I just can't keep up with the sheer number of programming languages a developer needs to know.

nkizz

I'm a professional developer and I only know BASIC and I've gotten along just fine

bwDraco

Hopefully, I can spend some time learning PowerShell...

Journeyman Geek

02:37

@ThatREDACTEDGuy yes

Bob

03:00

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

That REDACTED Guy

> the sheer number of ~~programming languages~~ js frameworks

dayssincelastjavascriptframework.com

Bob

lol wtf

@allquixotic I can't log in in headless mode, but once logged in (w/ cookie) headless runs fine

looks like in headless the login redirect stalls somewhere

I'll have to look at it some other day

preferably after git is fixed :P

alternatively: xrdp/xvbf the login and then run headless for actual bot

allquixotic

03:18

@Bob kk

@Bob tell me how?

@Bob not a terrible alternative.

Bob

03:30

@allquixotic delete your key from container, generate new key, and add it under repo settings with write access in github

that makes a repo-specific key you don't need to password (so I can use it) :P

allquixotic

@Bob k

@Bob try?

Bob

uhhhhhhh

allquixotic

seems to work? :P

Bob

trying to back up the modified stuff before anything git-destructive :P

@allquixotic cool, seems to work

thanks

(now I can safely delete some of the old stuff too :P)

Bob

05:41

@allquixotic superuser.com/questions/1218692/…

sounds like the thing you were complaining about :P

satibel

06:10

hey ho

djsmiley2k

Snoooooooowooooooooooooo

satibel

@djsmiley2k Sunnnnnnburnnnnnnnnnnnn

djsmiley2k

o_O

that was unexpected :D

ok chaps, here's a fun one

when your on a domain, it'll say connected to 'domain.network' - giving the name of the domain, in the little network popup box in windows 7

How does it know you're connected to this :? :/

Access to the domain controllers? what port? :/

As right now, domain authenicated laptops connecting over our 4G network... aren't seeing that

and no one here knows why :/

Nick

Hi all. Good morning!

djsmiley2k

Hi Nick

djsmiley2k

06:40

Is there some simple way to see in IE if a site is being proxied

satibel

@djsmiley2k specific site?

HTTP Strict Transport Security

HTTP Strict Transport Security (HSTS) is a web security policy mechanism which helps to protect websites against protocol downgrade attacks and cookie hijacking. It allows web servers to declare that web browsers (or other complying user agents) should only interact with it using secure HTTPS connections, and never via the insecure HTTP protocol. HSTS is an IETF standards track protocol and is specified in RFC 6797. The HSTS Policy is communicated by the server to the user agent via an HTTP response header field named "Strict-Transport-Security". HSTS Policy specifies a period of time during which...

HSTS also avoid proxying.

@djsmiley2k blogs.technet.microsoft.com/networking/2010/09/08/…

Nick

@djsmiley2k hi djsmiley2k :)

I'm sitting in a workshop right now, working with ATMega280P on a Nano.

Really, kiddie stuff. Am writing the blinking light program XD for the millionth time in my life.

This class is nice. They're teaching us to write it character for character. Not running example code. Nice guys. This is a nice college called CUSAT. It's a private science-centric university. A lot of friendly researchers here.

user226528

07:05

@Nick I've seen this before: Spite towards the successful competitor.

Nick

@FleetCommand Whatever it may be, it's one of the wittiest things I've ever read.

user226528

@Nick And wrong too: Air conditioning is useless unless the air flows. In places where there is no air escape canal, opening the window is the only solution.

Nick

@FleetCommand Normal people don't think like that. I close my windows when I turn the AC on in the car. It's this common sense that allows for Linus's comment to be funny.

@satibel ThAT IS SO EXTREMELY CLOSE. You are off only by one word. This should have been impossible. Please, sir, please tell me how you decrypted this. It's for research. I have not been able to do this!

user226528

@Nick Well, I hope he has fun with his wits, because it neither makes him as rich as Bill Gates nor makes Linux as successful as Windows. (FYI, this sentence wasn't sarcasm.)

Rahul2001

07:29

There might be an official COVFEFE law soon

@Nick seriously? That's one of the wittiest things you've read?

Also, please stop sending me LinkedIn requests, I do not wish to join the platform anytime soon.

user226528

COVFEFE? Looks like another acronym from Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs.

user226528

There was a FLDSMDFR in that film.

Burgi

07:47

morning

@Nick unless you want to play games

or do any office work

or provide a simple environment for non-technical people to use

satibel

I assumed that it is a monoalphabetic substitution, (e.g. one letter maps to another letter) and that the word lengths are unchanged. so it becomes [this game](https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/8c/df/4a/8cdf4a12d9db6928a8af933dbf1f2408.jpg) without the mapping.
I was lazy and stopped at the first match using online tools, but I could've made a script giving all the possible matching texts (which would be probably less than 50, going to probably less than 5 eliminating nonsensical text).

Nick

@satibel Can we co-author a research paper on this, please?

It sounds silly but I'm sure a lot of high-schoolers will find it interesting.

satibel

@Nick this is deciphering 1.0.1 :p

Burgi

they've been used since roman times

Nick

@satibel Sure, that's what we'll title the paper :)

@Burgi You can co-author too and contribute that section!

satibel

07:54

Frequency analysis

In cryptanalysis, frequency analysis is the study of the frequency of letters or groups of letters in a ciphertext. The method is used as an aid to breaking classical ciphers. Frequency analysis is based on the fact that, in any given stretch of written language, certain letters and combinations of letters occur with varying frequencies. Moreover, there is a characteristic distribution of letters that is roughly the same for almost all samples of that language. For instance, given a section of English language, E, T, A and O are the most common, while Z, Q and X are rare. Likewise, TH, ER, ON,...

that was less advanced than this ^

Rahul2001

@FleetCommand COVFEFE - Donald Trump

satibel

yours was a slightly more advanced caesar cypher.

Burgi

the point of a paper is to expand new theories and push forward human understanding.

your proposal is a high schoolers homework project

Nick

@satibel Thank you. I have a set of these. I want to coin names for each of them. I actually hope to be known for them because it's an easy way of encrypting passwords.

Do you think it's possible I could be famous?

Burgi

are you being serious?

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Nick

07:59

@Burgi Not always. I co-wrote a research paper on the "A Study on the The Global Migration of Coconuts through African Swallows as a Vector of Spread"

satibel

not sure if trolling or incredibly dense.

3

Burgi

step 1: become the emperor of the roman empire
step 2: use a simple letter replacement cypher to communicate with my generals
step 3: ?????
step 4: profit

djsmiley2k

@satibel Nah, this is something weirder.

Rahul2001

08:29

@Nick Just... No. Nope. Nothing. Never.

Nick

08:44

@Rahul2001 hahaha. Really?

@satibel That was a tentative title. We are shortlisted to be published....in some journal. True story.

DavidPostill

Hmm. the guardian.com crashes my FF :/

Rahul2001

@DavidPostill works on chrome mobile for me

djsmiley2k

@Burgi get defeated by British infections.

'some journal'

Nick

@DavidPostill I see no reason why it should. Try a different broswer. Please also test Nightly. If it crashes Nightly, then I might have some beef with them.

Yum, beef. I don't like it as much as chicken but now the taboo of it makes it more exciting.

Rahul2001

09:03

Uh...

DavidPostill

@Nick It's a User Script. If I can be bothered I will try to figure out which one.

Burgi

09:13

should i be worried if a frontend dev doesn't have an online portfolio?

DavidPostill

@Burgi Not necessarily. Maybe all his past work is covered by non-disclosure?

Burgi

i hadn't thought of that

DavidPostill

@Burgi It's entirely possible he has never done any personal or freelance projects

djsmiley2k

you're telling me they never wrote anything ever?

uni?

i guess

You should ask why

satibel

09:31

DEFCON 19: The Art of Trolling (w speaker)

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@Burgi he can be good at coding websites from a picture, but not imagining something from scratch. Or the other way around, he can be good at making a good looking prototype, but can't do js.

Burgi

we'll find out after the tech test

djsmiley2k

:O

Rahul2001

09:55

@Burgi meh, as a (hobbyist) frontend developer, I so a lot of stuff just for fun or practice. Doesn't he have any of that to show you?

Burgi

thats my point

djsmiley2k

yeah it feels a bit odd to me too

even a amuature programmer has stuff they tried,

can he talk about tutorials and self teaching he's done?

If he can't do that.... run away

Any kind of programming is 50% learning something new

Disclaimer: Not a Programmer

lol

Nick

@DavidPostill I think there are sites that list all the scripts a page uses

djsmiley2k

or ask him for his SE username.

@Nick he said userscript

i.e. something local on his system

Nick

ah, tampermonkey stuff. Userstyles and things.

djsmiley2k

10:06

yus

DavidPostill

@djsmiley2k Yes, indeed.

djsmiley2k

/me nods

Nick

@djsmiley2k I want to make more of those. Where do I upload my work?

djsmiley2k

on ur website.

Nick

Right now, I have CSS styles for sites but I'm the only one using it. How do I shar this with my friends?

djsmiley2k

10:09

via your social media

Nick

@djsmiley2k you mean, store it in my GDrive and share the code via facebook and twitter?

Meh...

djsmiley2k

lol sure

Nick

Did you have something else in mind?

djsmiley2k

github?

Rahul2001

10:28

May 15 at 17:09, by Nick

Also, about my workshop, this is as much hacking as I taught them. The rest was simply intro to Kali. How to google and be a "pro" skiddy. How to use Git, Github and use LAMP to implement a fake sign-in phishing attack. Pretty basic stuff.

You teach people how to use Git(hub) but use Google bloody Drive to share CSS code?

4

Burgi

10:40

is there anyone near mumbai who can go stab someone in the face for me?

djsmiley2k

/me looks at @Rahul2001

@Burgi CS again?

Rahul2001

@Burgi haha, why?

djsmiley2k

Who's he taught o_O

Burgi

old dev team farmed this fucking WP site out to some random guy in india

and i have bloody maintain it

djsmiley2k

xD

dump it :(

Burgi

10:42

its just poorly built

Rahul2001

@Burgi Meh, if you're ever having communication issues, hit me up

Burgi

@djsmiley2k i can't

Bob

hi

what's happening

djsmiley2k

welcome to WP! :)

@Bob run away!

Bob

o.O

@Rahul2001 will you get them to do the needful?

djsmiley2k

10:44

Let It Go - from Frozen (metal cover by Leo Moracchioli)

►

Burgi

it'll take me about 2 weeks to rebuild and the customer won't pay for that because (rightly so) we should have done it right in the first place

djsmiley2k

You know what, I hate your job xD

Burgi

me too :(

djsmiley2k

:{(

come work here

no one can figure out this network issue (other than agreeing it's dns related)

basically, I'm pretty sure EE have screwed up

but not sure how to prove it :/

Screwed up may include but not limited to: changed the IP of their DNS resolvers

Burgi

have you tried removing the machine from the domain?

djsmiley2k

10:51

hahaha

40 stores

it's only mobile connected sites, it's a bit weird

Burgi

ah so it isn't isolated

can you try a different network? get a free SIM from o2 or something, just to check if its something EE have done?

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