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12:00 AM
@WillHunting Mhm.
 
It's a chat.
 
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@aediaλ Hehe.
 
We don't have any dress codes here.
 
You didn't even in school?
 
user19161
Maybe a few hundred years from now we will all be naked.
 
12:04 AM
@aediaλ No, especially not in school. Did you?
 
user19161
Some school uniforms can look quite bad. Luckily mine was all white.
 
School uniforms are unknown here. I don't know whether they ever existed; perhaps a century ago?
Certainly not 50 years ago.
 
@Cerberus I'm sure we had something about clothes covering our undergarments and not being unreasonably full of swears or shock or something intended to offend.
 
Heh.
 
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Actually it's not bad to have uniforms. At least you don't have to decide what to wear!
 
12:06 AM
I don't think we had any rules. But I presume extreme things would have been dealt with case by case.
Maybe things like a girl wearing only a bikini.
 
It was probably like two sentences in the student handbook and maybe one or two people got sent to the office every year for really flagrantly not clothing themselves or also being jerks (things that could be dealt with without much of a policy anyway, yeah).
 
Or extremely violent or racist slurs.
 
user19161
When I was in uni, I had a colour code for myself. Blue, green, grey, blue, green, grey, orange from Mon to Sun, hehe!
 
I went to a small public school and it wasn't a big deal; no uniforms or anything. As long as you weren't interfering with learning your clothes didn't matter.
 
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@Cerberus That happens on American Idol!
 
12:08 AM
@aediaλ Hmm OK, maybe that happened in my school too. I have never heard of anyone being called out on it by teachers or the principal, but there is a chance that I somehow never saw it and no gossip ensued.
Oh, but there was a sometimes-enforced rule of no hats in class.
 
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Not only is there uniform here, students are checked for their haircut too.
 
@WillHunting Heh, yes, it certainly didn't happen in my school.
@WillHunting Wow!
 
@Cerberus We probably had the same; I don't really recall.
@WillHunting Oh, man!
It was like that all through school for you?
 
user19161
@aediaλ By school the past few minutes I mean pre-uni.
 
Yeah, yeah.
 
12:11 AM
Singaporese principals would think their school would fall apart into anarchy if they had our rules...
 
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Well, I can't even buy chewing gum here...
 
Why not?
 
user19161
@Mahnax Because it is not to be sold here.
 
37 secs ago, by Mahnax
Why not?
 
user19161
@Mahnax Well, they don't want people sticking gum all over the place.
 
12:13 AM
@WillHunting So they ban it? Oy.
 
@Cerberus Not to mention all of the rules that just weren't enforced for being impractical, like how you weren't supposed to prop open the door near the art room that everyone propped open while we were going in and out to spray varnish and fixative on things...
 
You could get a € fine for throwing chewing gum on the street...
 
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@Mahnax I am also very careful what I say because I don't want to be sued.
 
@aediaλ Haha, yes.
 
@WillHunting I see.
 
12:14 AM
So why weren't you allowed to?
@WillHunting What do you mean?
 
user19161
@Cerberus What I mean is I take note not to say untrue things about politicians that may put them in a bad light for example.
 
user19161
There are people who have been sued for saying things about some politicians.
 
Then you can just rectify it?
 
user19161
@Cerberus Well, it depends. But it's best to play safe.
 
user19161
The chewing gum thing already says a lot doesn't it?
 
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12:25 AM
Just gave three people presents, shh...
 
Yeah your laws are strict!
 
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There are many things I would say if it were not for the transcript...
 
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Over and out!
 
Me too! Night, y'all.
 
does a little dance
 
1:07 AM
Hello!
J'ai mangé le dîner délicieux.
C'etait bon.
 
 
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9:27 AM
In the phrase "the dog that was green", is "that was green" a relative clause?
 
9:40 AM
How about "these people saw" in "The man these people saw flew the coop"?
 
Yes, I believe both are relative clauses.
 
thanks! I'm trying to learn linguist's jargon
 
I thought you were a linguist. From some of your comments in various places.
 
blush nah, I'm strictly amateur
I often feel like Alan Davies amongst a group of Stephen Frys when I'm chatting here! (QI reference)
Do you get QI in New Zealand, @DavidWallace?
Or, more importantly, do you watch QI?
 
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10:02 AM
@MattЭллен If you are serious about grammar you should get a grammar book.
 
user19161
The one by Carter and McCarthy is good.
 
@WillHunting I have plenty of books :) I just don't take the time to read them
 
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@MattЭллен No, I only know what IQ is.
 
it's not grammar that worries me, per se, but just how linguists talk about it
@WillHunting QI is a popular panel quiz
 
Yes, we do get it (QI), I've never watched it.
So I didn't understand your remark about Alan Davies.
 
10:08 AM
Fair enough!
 
Sorry that I just disappeared for so long, my light fitting fell off my ceiling.
 
Alan Davies is the guy they have on to make the audience feel good because he doesn't know the answers either
@DavidWallace golly! I hope no one was hurt
 
So I just disconnected everything, because it's too dark to fix it properly; and I don't want to go drilling holes and waking up my son.
I'll fix it in the morning; it's about 11:10pm now.
 
good plan
 
So, why do you feel thus, Matt? Has Reg Dwight been nasty again?
 
10:11 AM
Reg hasn't been nasty to me :D
I didn't think he was nasty yesterday
 
Will Hunting - is that a new name for you?
 
I just compare what I know to what everyone here knows, and I notice how short I come up
 
Matt, it's a myth. People seem smarter that they really are, when they're typing instead of actually talking.
@WillHunting - if I can ask it another way; are you the person formerly known as Jasper Loy?
 
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@DavidWallace Yes, indeed.
 
OK, sorry that I left yesterday in a hurry, when we were just in the middle of quite an interesting conversation.
 
10:16 AM
@DavidWallace maybe, but Reg, Robusto, Cerberus, Kit, Mr Shiny and New, Jasper and yourself all speak more languages than I do, and are better at expressing how language works. I don't mind - it gives me room to grow!
 
Speaking of Stephen Fry, earlier this evening I watched the first 15 minutes or so of a documentary of his, where he went to the Amazon to look for manatees. I had no idea that you'd find them there. It seemed rather like going to France to find penguins.
I shall watch the rest of the documentary tomorrow. I hope I don't find out that he was pulling everyone's legs.
 
:D yeah! that's surprising
 
@MattЭллен Matt - I speak only one language fluently - English. I struggle and get by in a number of others. But I have had the benefit of being married to a Bosnian woman for 13 years, and have had to communicate with all of her non-English-speaking relatives.
and I too am sometimes intimidated by RegDwight.
 
He is incredibly smart, as is Cerberus. If I chat to Cerb for a while I start to feel somewhat awed
I must get some work done, though. Been nice chatting to you!
 
Yeah, I should probably go to bed too. Good night.
 
10:34 AM
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Q: What does this sentence mean

PietroI am struggling with understanding of meaning of following sentence: "What time do we got to do this at?" I assume it "do we got" is "do we have got". I guess they are asking at what time it has to be completed..or how much time have they left?

ಠ_ಠ @JSBngs
 
 
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12:28 PM
@RegDwightѬſ道 What time do we have got to close this at?
 
I thought it was eight.
@MattЭллен pish posh.
So I have a new TV!!!!!!1!!!!!
It is OVER 9000 inches on the diagonal!!!!!!!!!!!!
OK, I used up all my exclamation points.
A little envy would be very much appreciated.
 
@KitFox envious at @Kit's OVER 9000 inches
ragequits at @Kit's OVER 9000 inches
 
Aww. Thanks, @Robusto. I didn't know you cared so much.
 
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12:43 PM
@RegDwightѬſ道 Somehow I can't view the smiley or whatever it is. I think I am lacking some fonts.
 
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@KitFox Congrats!
 
Thanks.
 
user19161
Why do people measure screens by the diagonal? They should just give the two dimensions. Giving the diagonal gives infinite possibilities.
 
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Now I am trying to figure out what fonts to install to view Reg's smiley.
 
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Or maybe they are meant to look the way they do now.
 
@Cerberus I did say something to that effect. Was I wrong?
@WillHunting Because it's a hold-over from televisions. And televisions all have the same aspect-ratio (more or less).
 
memes. bah.
anyway, @Reg, the question was retagged before i even got to it
 
Of course. BY ME.
I just thought you would like it. On Facebook.
 
well, thanks
congrats on your new inches, @Kit
 
Thank you!
 
1:10 PM
did you have to buy a new house to fit your TV in?
 
No, but we did need to cut a hole in the wall to get it in the house.
 
What kind of TV did you get?
 
It's just a 42" LG LCD.
But the last one was a knockoff brand 26" with a really annoying buzz.
 
42" is nothing to sneeze at
 
Well, we played with it last night, and my husband shouted "Look! I can read the text on the screen!" when he was playing Skyrim.
 
1:15 PM
aw, i like your husband
 
He's pretty awesome.
 
hehe I had the same reaction when we finally got an HDTV just before Christmas.
 
The funny thing is that we went out to get an idea of what was available with a bunch of notes I'd made. We were going to look up reviews and what not.
 
was your old TV HD?
 
Then the very last spot we looked in had this one that was out of the box, on clearance, on sale.
He looked it up on his phone, and it had great reviews.
So we said, "um, we'll take that one."
@MrShinyandNew安宇 Yes, but here's a funny story.
We got it because the old one crapped out on us right after my first child was born.
I was pretty nutso with cabin fever, so we really needed a new one fast.
Anyway, we got the little one because it was all we could afford (and not even really), and it was about the same size as the old tube TV.
This winter, almost four years later, I decided that I ought to plug the PS3 into the HDMI input instead of using the component video.
OK, that's not fair. We only had the PS3 for about a year and a half.
Anyway, I just about shit a brick.
The difference was miraculous.
 
1:21 PM
heheheh
 
We have cable now too, but we haven't plugged it in with HDMI because we've only got the one cable.
 
you "have cable" now? like, you didn't before?
 
So all this time we've had incredible picture available and just not taken advantage of it.
 
In Canada, just about any place where you CAN get cable, pretty much every single household gets it. There just isn't much over the air.
 
@MrShinyandNew安宇 We got it this summer, I think.
@MrShinyandNew安宇 Well, we don't actually watch much TV. We watch a lot of stuff on Netflix and DVDs, and play games.
 
1:22 PM
@KitFox That's like buying a computer in the 90s and not pressing the turbo button!
 
Yeah.
Kinda really dumb.
 
@KitFox yeah I can understand that. I would like to get rid of our cable. We only get basic and I NEVER watch it and I'm too cheap to pay for more.
 
It's particularly funny because we always admired his mom's TV.
 
@MrShinyandNew安宇 just go in and get rid of the TV entirely
 
@MrShinyandNew安宇 I wish I could convince my husband, but he's convinced that he watches a lot of sports.
 
1:24 PM
my wife and i subsist entirely on netflix and hulu, and we never miss the other glowing screen
 
@JSBᾶngs No! How will he play Ratchet and Clank?
 
@JSBᾶngs oh, no, I really like the TV. I use it for DVDs and blurays.
 
@KitFox oh, well that's fine
 
I just never watch CABLE
 
using the TV for video games is a perfectly worthy purpose
 
1:25 PM
In fact I'm perfectly ok with watching stuff on my computer, from time to time, but for a movie, you want a big screen and comfy couch.
 
I looked at my husband last night as we were watching Doctor Who and I said "You realized we are going to have to get Bluray discs instead of DVDs now, right?"
 
Hm our enemy is nonexistent now. @Kit @Rob @Vit
 
Huh?
Ahhh!
 
@Reg no war in this chat. that's what your other chat is for.
 
I wonder whom I will surge against if I click that button.
@JSBᾶngs Which other chat, if I may ask?
 
1:27 PM
@KitFox my friend borrowed my copy of Inception on bluray. But it comes with the DVD, which he accidentally started watching. Then he was like "Gee, this bluray kinda sucks", then realized his mistake, and the quality was so much better that he exclaimed "I'm only buying bluray from now on!"
Which is funny because he had previously tried to convince me that DVD was good enough.
 
@RegDwightѬſ道 didn't you used to have a dedicated WMT chat?
 
And I must admit: DVDs look frickin' awesome on my TV. And, for example, my Lost Bluray doesn't look a whole lot better than my Lost DVDs. But I blame TV-show production quality for that.
 
We had the Bluray on the computer plugged in to the old TV before we got the PS3, but it was so much trouble to set up that we hardly ever bothered.
 
I was in a record store the other day and they had the box-set of harry potter movies, all 8, on bluray. I was -> <- this close to buying it, just so I could have a nice set of blurays. But then I remembered that while I liked the movies, I didn't LOVE them that much.
 
My lost VHSes and Betamaxen look just as good as my lost Blu-rays...
 
1:31 PM
Holy crap! Loading the listview templates programmatically totally worked!
@MrShinyandNew安宇 Yes, that's the really difficult thing. I felt the same way between buying VHS and DVD lo those many years ago.
 
And if only George Lucas hadn't fucked with Star Wars AGAIN. I would have given him more money for SW on bluray. But no. He fucked it up again. Well, THIS abused housewife isn't taking any more! Screw you, GL!
 
Good for you.
Nobody deserves abuse, @MrShiny.
Except George Lucas. We can heap it on him.
 
Well GL still gets to keep all the monies Mr Shiny has already given to him over all these years.
Just sayin.
 
@KitFox At least the DVD format is pretty much completely superior to VHS in so many ways. I've replaced almost all my VHS movies and not felt guilty or ripped off. But I can't justify replacing a DVD... not until I already own all the NEW BDs that I want.
@RegDwightѬſ道 Yeah! But he ain't getting any more for those films! He'll need to make new ones!
 
Dear God, nonono, please no!
Have you seen any of his new movies?
 
1:34 PM
@RegDwightѬſ道 the prequels? yes. I...uh... bought them on dvd. (ducks)
 
Congratulations.
Customers who liked Episode I also bought Indiana Jones: the Holy of the Crap.
 
Anyway: Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter took photos of the Apollo 15 landing site:
@RegDwightѬſ道 I have that on DVD too. But: it was given to me as a gift before I'd seen it.
It was pretty awful.
 
See.
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Q: Problems with constructing sentences with a few ideas together

xEnOnI am trying to write a sentence that tells the reader that the works displayed that they are about to see will bring them back and forth the real and virtual realms, in a figurative manner. The "borders" that I mentioned in the statement reflects some of the earlier references in the paragraph. T...

> The displayed works will set forth its viewers through a journey from the physical, passing the borders, into the virtual realm and back.
OMG.
Looks like heavy editing to the point of it stopping to make sense in English. Some more editing, and it might become comprehensible in Tamil.
 
voted to close; make writers deal with it
@MrShinyandNew安宇 that's obviously fake. everyone knows that the moon landing was faked on a soundstage in arizona
 
@JSBᾶngs Yeah, you can tell it's photoshopped. There's no text on the moon!
 
1:39 PM
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Q: When an Britain say "interesting" , is he approving my idea or just sarcasm?

Aaron LewisI had some interview days before , when I mentioned how I get over some technical problem , the officer said "Interesting" , does it mean he accepted my solution or just don't like it , but comforting ? Thanks

Why do people jump on it and start speculating?
I will now delete all answers.
 
but i really wanted to know what an Britain means when say "interesting"!
 
He is approving your sarcasm.
 
Interesting.
 
Though not your idea.
 
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@RegDwightѬſ道 I can sing a Tamil song, hehe.
 
1:42 PM
Mar 9 '11 at 22:33, by Robusto
@valya — "That's interesting" is a statement that can mean anything the speaker wants it to mean. How you should interpret it depends on tone of voice and other things. It could mean something is very interesting, is not very interesting, is not interesting in the least, or that the speaker just wants you not to bother him or her.
 
@RegDwightѬſ道 that's interesting
 
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@RegDwightѬſ道 Almost anything can mean almost anything.
 
@JSBᾶngs go on. Last time the meme lasted for a full day.
 
never mind! i take it back! i hate memes!
 
TO THE GROUND
 
1:46 PM
@JSBᾶngs Do you? That's interesting.
 
runs and hides from the memes
 
I need some help thinking about code. Anybody up for it today?
 
@KitFox I'm willing to look at your problem. Just tell your clients that I'm a consultant. TELL THEM! I have over 50 years experience in Android and Iphone development.
 
giggles
That's great.
I am thinking about writing a custom control, and I am getting myself all talked up into a great big ball of confusion.
I have all these sortable, filterable, paged listviews. Well, they should be, but they aren't.
So I thought "Hey, I'll write a control for that."
But although the sorting, filtering, and paging is more or less the same for all of them, the table layouts aren't. So I thought, "Hey, I'll write controls for the templates too."
Now I've gotten all mired down in trying to figure out how to pass events and properties out and in.
I've made a huge mess of my test page.
OH, wait. Oh, wait. OK, I think I maybe figured it out.
 
@Kit: Wait, you mean I ragequit over 42"? That's not OVER 9000!
 
2:00 PM
Quit harshing my mellow, man.
 
@KitFox Hey, you started it. You totally made me ragequit this morning.
 
I thought you were just being nice!
 
Pfft! Me? Nice? Nevah.
I went online and looked up HD TVs in the OVER 9000 category and didn't find any. I decided you had yours made special.
 
Yes, YES! (in the fashion of Dr. Nefarious in R&C4)
 
Look whom you've summoned.
 
2:16 PM
@KitFox I don't really know much about ASP.net custom controls. (sorry, I was afk, work interrupted me)
 
@MrShinyandNew安宇 Neither do I, but I'm finding my Java experience is helping somewhat.
 
"Java" and "experience" in one sentence. Wow.
 
So far it has been going together like an OVER 9000 piece puzzle, now that I figured out how to write my getters and setters.
 
@RegDwightѬſ道 Don't knock it. I've been experiencing Java for OVER 9000 now.
 
I thought them was over 50?
 
2:21 PM
It's funny that Java uses a steaming cup of coffee as their logomark, because it flat puts me to sleep.
 
Shit.
 
Okay so I've migrated that question to Writers. @Kit should make provisions to witness my balls getting kicked.
 
What? Where?
After this long?
 
@Robusto Coffee puts me to sleep as well, so the metaphor is solid.
 
@RegDwightѬſ道 That's because owls are supposed to sleep in the daytime. Corollary does not imply causality.
 
2:23 PM
Except sometimes it does.
 
@RegDwightѬſ道 Coincidence.
 
So?
Last I checked coincidences were even allowed in Nazi Germany.
 
@RegDwightѬſ道 Yeah. Filed under "why they lost the war."
 
Yeah.
Their loss coincided with our win.
 
@RegDwightѬſ道 Why did you delete the answers and not the question? At least one question was serious and the others weren't terrible (if you're deleting like this, there's a whole bunch I'd like you to delete first).
 
2:25 PM
Usually I don't delete questions right away, so the OP gets a chance to defend/improve.
I guess there are cases where I might as well nuke them.
 
@RegDwightѬſ道 Then they got the order wrong. "Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. Three times, it's enemy action." — Auric Goldfinger
They put the enemy action first. A rookie move.
 
That movie was nice though.
 
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Q: When do I add a comma before an "and"?

xEnOnSometimes, I see an extra comma before an "and" but I don't know when I should and should not add a comma before an "and". For example: There are apples, oranges and pears in the basket. In this sentence, I don't think that there is no need for a comma before the "and pears". But sometimes,...

Kill it with fire! Quick! Thou shalt not suffer questions about Oxford commas to live!
 
> In this sentence, I don't think that there is no need for a comma
That litotes is pro, dude.
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Q: What's the word for the condition where you need to defecate?

Alf P. Steinbach"hungry" describes the condition where one craves intake of more food. what is the English name for the condition where one needs to expel the end result?

 
@RegDwightѬſ道 Why are people suddenly wanting to defecate in ELU? I can see it making you want to throw up sometimes, but what is the mechanism that provokes the defecation response?
 
2:33 PM
Peristalsis.
 
@RegDwightѬſ道 shittiest ever
 
So, is my comment there over the top? If so, I'll delete it.
 
I dunno, is it? Could be a valid answer from where I look.
@JSBᾶngs Wrong.
Jul 16 '11 at 11:48, by RegDwight
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Q: Euphemisms for the act of defecation?

bracho monachoSome of my favourite euphemisms for the act of 'pooing' include: Growing a tail Having a bog Dropping the kids off at the pool Laying cable for Telstra (telecommunications provider) Giving birth to some brown twins Negotiating the release of the chocolate hostages Downloading some brownware. ...

 
@RegDwightѬſ道 okay, second shittiest ever
 
2:38 PM
I am not clicking on any video link posted directly under that question.
Okay I have clicked on it.
 
@JSBᾶngs Also, in medical terms, it is generally described as the defecation urge.
 
And I don't get it. Just like the top commenter.
 
I have some friends who are computer programmer or I have some friends who are computer programmerS - which one is correct?
 
Hi!
 
2:42 PM
@Anonymous Programmers.
@RegDwightѬſ道 I still don't get this, but it looks funny, which is what you wanted, I suppose...
 
Thank you @Cerberus :)
 
@Anonymous since friends is plural, you want the predicate to also be plural. So I have friend_s_ who are programmer_s_.
 
My friends are a mess.
 
@Cerberus Hai in German means "shark". So Germans, usually children, reply to it with a scared "where?"
 
So if friend is singular I should say - I have a friend who loves cat. Add s to love since it's singular correct?
 
2:45 PM
@Anonymous "A friend who loves cat." sounds like a friend who loves to eat cat meat.
 
Yes, except that "to love cat" means to love eating cat meat.
Jinx.
 
@RegDwightѬſ道 Ah! I see. In Dutch it is with a long a: haai. And we sometimes pronounce "hi" long like that, but somehow it never makes me think of sharks.
 
Usually you would say "A friend who loves cats."
 
really?
Thank you :)
 
Yeah. There's a question about it...
 
2:46 PM
... on Cooking...
 
I have a friend who loves cat.
 
@Anonymous You would say "my friends like water", because "water" is a substance that normally has no plural. But "cat" is not a substance: it has a plural, and so you would use the plural if you mean cats in general.
@Anonymous This means "cat" as a substance, so your friend likes cat meat.
 
Or you can say "loves a cat". Which would refer to a particular feline.
 
Right.
 
Where is that damn question?
 
2:48 PM
Googling the question usually works better than the native search function...
 
I can't really remember it. Something about orange/oranges? Or dog/dogs?
 
woof
orange
 
@KitFox elephants.
 
oranging all around the room Ahh, I needed that.
 
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Q: About using singular as food

StanleyConsider the following : He likes dogs. He likes dog. (1) would mean he likes dogs as pets and (2) refers to dog as food. My question is, does the same apply to nouns such as orange and oranges? He likes oranges. He likes orange. Just wish to confirm that (1) and (2) ...

Found it!
 
2:50 PM
Ah that.
I really did mean elephants.
Except that that one was a completely different question.
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Q: "The (Cobra)" vs. "An (elephant)", articles with nouns denoting a class

WebMAOhist[ 1 ] tells on p.5 that "Singular nouns denoting a class" are preceded by the definite article "THE" (Example: "The Cobra is dangerous"), while on page 7 (Table 6. THE INDEFINITE ARTICLE) it tells that "Singular countable nouns denoting a class" are preceded by indefinite articles ("An elephant n...

 
Oh hey! I wrote an answer to that one.
 
And Cerberus apparently wrote a comment.
 
Did I?
Oh, yes.
 
Huh.
> thanks for your detailed and very clear explanation.
Really? It was?
 
Post that as a comment. "Thank you, but my explanation wasn't intended to be detailed or clear. Or an explanation at all, for that matter. Will fix ASAP."
 
2:54 PM
@KitFox I gave it my up-vote at the time, so, yes.
 
@RegDwightѬſ道 hai in romanian means "come here", so i can only imagine the fun you'll have if you put a bunch of germans, romanians, and a shark in a room together
 
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@Robusto 42 inches is over 9000 micrometres. QED.
 
So a bunch of Germans, Romanians, and a shark walk into a bar, and the bartender says "HI!"
OMG! I beat out Kosmo for an accepted answer on that one.
puts feather in cap
 
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@jsb What the hell is WC?
 
2:57 PM
A Romanian shark walks into some Germans and says "hi."
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@KitFox that one i like
@WillHunting WC = Water Closet = poop pot
 
I was going to keep going until I got something completely nonsensical. Instead, I'll just stop there.
 
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@KitFox I am not getting this.
 
@WillHunting Walter Cronkite
Hi!
 
Generally I should use plural form for things such as cats, dogs, computers. I love cats, he loves dogs, we love computers right?
 
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2:59 PM
@Anonymous Right!
 

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