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lol
you guys probably know most of my recent former employers, my country...
at least one person knows my address
@FleetCommand I don't know if you are aware but India is quite large...
@FleetCommand Hah, pretty easy to figure out from my name anyway.
and has a lot of languages
@Rahul2001 Well, he doesn't have to, I can see it from his name ;)
user226528
@Burgi So is United States and Canada and Australia.
14:01
@FleetCommand none of those countries have 1billion residents
On the internet no one knows you're a dog indian.
@JourneymanGeek beg to differ... ;)
user226528
@Burgi And ... China
@Burgi unless you ask someone to do the needful...
@FleetCommand my point is saying that you are Indian isn't immediately helpful to locate someone
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14:04
@Burgi Have you ever heard of "prejudice"?
user226528
People don't need to have your address to be prejudiced against you. They only need to know your continent.
user226528
Prejudice leads to discrimination.
@FleetCommand eh, I think that was primarily light hearted kidding.
I don't think anyone could guess my heritage if I hadn't mentioned it a few times
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@JourneymanGeek I know a person in Wikipedia who was going to become an Administrator. The word got out that he was Iranian. Despite rapid erasure of that rumor, he never became an admin. Instead, he used his right to vanish.
@FleetCommand chances that's unlikely to happen on SE
14:09
you should never be ashamed of your heritage/race/genus
wikipedia is a bit more po-faced
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@Burgi I am not. Yet, I won't give ammunition to those who should be ashamed of their conduct either.
May 1 '16 at 18:55, by Burgi
have you opened that shiny new VPN yet @RahulBasu?
user226528
@Burgi Not really. Their Oversight team shows no mercy to rumors and rumer-mongers alike.
14:10
@Burgi One year later and I still haven't
user226528
Neither does their American contributors do to Iranians.
@FleetCommand I like to think SU folk are geeks first
on RA... if you're going to be nasty to someone for who they are, you have to deal with me
user226528
@JourneymanGeek I like to. Even though I know for fact that they aren't. Only a small percentage.
@FleetCommand Why so cynical, man?
SU is one of thwe most decent communities on the internet.
user226528
@Rahul2001 That was not a fair assessment. I am a jolly person most of the times.
14:14
@FleetCommand And that was just a light-hearted comment asking you to chill :)
user226528
I am not prejudiced either. I even once chatted with a Muslim and asked him for an Islamic-themed joke.
Does anyone know which size of torx scredriver is needed to open the scanner part in an HP DeskJet Ink Advantage 3545?
@JourneymanGeek Homo Sapian Computatralis
@RogUE just buy a set. ;p
@FleetCommand I live in a multicultural country where people mostly get along.
user226528
@RogUE Or borrow one set.
14:16
I just myself a set of Bosch. It has T20 and T25.
They don't fit.
and where someone's from dosen't matter that much - not their gender, preferences, identifcation....
@JourneymanGeek my apologies: Canis Lupus Computatralis
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Microsoft Edge Browser Displays “123456” but Prints “114447”
14:25
@FleetCommand MS was never good with maths, especially simple calulations ;)
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Q: Windows file copy dialog: Why is the estimation so... BAD?

Maxim Zaslavsky xkcd I know that the Windows copy dialog (in Windows XP) stores the copy in memory first, and it is still copying after the dialog closes, so the time is off, but why is the estimation of the time it will take to make a copy so unaccurate, even when this memory copying has been disabled (in Vi...

this is too damned funny (around the 1.00 minute mark)
user226528
Huh!
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I thought that looked familiar :P
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15:02
15:20
@Bob a goth fox sandwich
@Burgi (splorf)
You owe me a packet of screen cleaners :)
lol
15:37
@Bob !!fooox?
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@allquixotic floofyfloof
@allquixotic something for when someone finally wakes up in a resurrection ship? ;p
I need to see if Chrome Headless is usable yet with webdriverio
@JourneymanGeek the resurrection ship is dependent upon Google fixing the resurrection code
there's an engineer Six somewhere at a desk in Mountain View, CA or Shenzhen, China dutifully hacking away at the fracking code to make it work with selenium webdriver
lol
(I just wanted to make a cylon joke ;p)
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@allquixotic Oh yea, they promoted that on the Chromium blog.
And Firefox headless is now marked as working with SlimerJS
(as of yesterday, funnily enough. you have great timing :P)
@allquixotic I kinda want to test myself, so I really need to make a sock one of these days :P
15:42
lol
@Bob all the cool canids are doing it
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I should use a gfycat-style name :P
that's me refusing to go back to Xvfb for headed web browsers
@Bob just use cavil on my cavil lxd container
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@allquixotic eh... but that's boring! :P
15:44
the password's in there, and the webdriverio code should just work with chrome/ff once the support is there for the selenium api
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I should name it FloofyFox
@allquixotic wasn't there something about selenium grid?
@Bob yeah; I was trying to use the selenium grid node/hub architecture in hopes the selenium-server node would be flexible enough to consume the FF/Chrome headless
@Bob fox sox?
thinking maybe the webdriverio code isn't flexible enough
DesiredCapabilities and all that
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@allquixotic I'm using outdated webdriverio, though?
the new API was just coming out when I wrote that
15:46
I updated it
see package.json
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oh, to which version?
I think we've had this conversation before :P
latest when I last hacked on it
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ah
@Bob I think we've had a conversation about having conversations before, before
but here's an opportunity for us, for the first time, to have a conversation about having a conversation about having a conversation before, before, before
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15:48
:P
I'm going to propose the Area51 site meta.meta.stackexchange.com
think it'll enter private beta?
also you just want to make a sock of your own who's a floofy fox, don't you :|
lol
Shouldn't it be a robot fox?
link the answers you post so we can non-serially upvote two of your answers apiece to get you the rep
15:51
Heh, MSE already has a [meta] tag for questions about MSE
proposes cavil be renamed beep beep I'm a robot sheep
@BenN but what if I have a question about the [meta] tag?
Here's a deep joke for programmers that nobody else might get: lisp.stackexchange.com doesn't need a meta.
Interestingly, Stack Apps has no meta
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> Oops! There was a problem updating your profile:

Invalid image type
O_O
I was just changing the profile text...
@Bob who dis?
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15:59
@jokerdino me
hi FF
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Hm. I kinda want to put in a birthdate of today but I also don't want to trigger any under-13 detection :P
Ok, time to find a question to answer
> You must have 50 reputation to comment.
welp
@Bob btw I got a Galaxy S8+ yesterday and put it on a new line, so now I have two phones and the best of both worlds lol
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@allquixotic you... O_O wait WHAT
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16:02
dammit, and here I was trying to avoid temptation for another year :P
@allquixotic @Bob so...
I must admit the hand feel and aesthetics of the S8+ are far far better than iPhone 7 Plus
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*repeats to self* "S7's good enough. S7's good enough."
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My dad and I have one of these each backed kickstarter.com/projects/jellyphone/…
I figure I could use it as a media player/spare phone
Why does chat keep scrolling up to the top every time I post on mobile
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16:03
@JourneymanGeek Yes. I am jelly :P
amusingly, I think it does more LTE bands than my chinese OP3
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@allquixotic so, uh... why'd you get that? o.O
@Bob poor Bob :( you'll be hugging yourself to sleep saying that tonight eh
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@allquixotic I was this close to hopping on one of the discounted S8 contracts :P
16:04
@Bob wanted to try Android Auto with my new head unit in my car to see if it can do Waze since you can only do Apple Maps on CarPlay
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Did you order too late for the pre-order Gear VR bonus?
o.O
@allquixotic my dad's new car does android auto it seems
Won't be long it seems :D
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16:06
wtf is android auto
What browser do you use on Android Bob? Is firefox still the best? Because fuck Chrome and its lack of support of extensions
@Bob basically lets your phone talk to your head unit
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hm. it's hard to find a good question to answer :(
The S8+ is SOOOOO PRETTY BOB YOU KNOW YOU WANT IT
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@allquixotic I'm still using Firefox.
16:08
@Bob could always do edits
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TBH Chrome performs better
But Firefox has Adblock/uBlock and I'm using Sync, sooo :P
@Bob CarPlay and Android Auto are ways to show your screen, audio and route touch inputs from an advanced car stereo head unit to your phone
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@allquixotic :<
It's not an exact mirror of your phone and only certain apps work
@allquixotic would work on older phones too no?
like those spare samsung A series you bought?
16:10
Yeah Android Auto works on almost anything except for my J3 interestingly
They're too outdated :D
can you Switch phones easily?
I don't care if you need to plug it in to set it up each time
They have two separate phone numbers and Sims
no no, I mean android auto
We have two people who drive in my family ;p
16:11
Yes, I don't see any reason why not
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I'm on page 7
where are all the good questions :(
@Bob THE S8+ DOWN AT THE CORNER STORE WILL HAUNT YOUR DREAMS AS IT WAILS PLAINTIVELY FOR YOU TO BECOME ITS OWNER AND CRADLE IT IN YOUR HANDS
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@allquixotic :L
you know what. it'd be easier for me to get the chat rep from PCCG :P
IT WILL TRANSMIT SAD EMOJI TO YOUR BRAIM WITH ITS LTE CHIPSET UNTIL ITS BATTERY DIES AND IT CRIES, WHY, WHY BOB, WHY DID YOU LET MY BATTERY DIE
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=[
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☹☹☹☹☹☹☹☹☹☹☹☹☹☹☹☹☹☹☹☹☹☹☹☹☹☹☹☹☹☹☹☹☹☹☹☹☹☹☹☹☹☹
@Bob If you're patient, there's tags that need fixing. I would totally suggest doing it when a reviewer who knows what's going on is around tho
@Bob You can just join 20 sites
@allquixotic *brain
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@BenN huh? does that actually work? O_O
I did that with Alter N
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16:15
10 pages in. bleh.
ok, quick show of hands
who here DOESN'T have a sock?
:P
@CalvT I suppose
@JourneymanGeek I've got a sock, just not in here ;)
lol
damnit
@Aibobot ... oh wait. She is the sock.
Worry not, little S8+ from Australia, I'll save you! Your brother from the USA will convince the one and only owner to come free you from the DARK, SCARY AND COLD BOX you're being IMPRISONED IN and show you the light, so you can scan irises or faces or fingerprints for the glory of the Tech God!
Hey wtf, my S8+ is typing messages on its own now... Bixby, is that you?
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o.O
@allquixotic Meow twice if you need help
16:22
@BenN lol
@JourneymanGeek just wondering why you deleted this? Do you consider it spam?
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page 16 :(
@CalvT That looks pretty spammy to me
@CalvT looked a lot like spam to me
@JourneymanGeek ok thanks :)
16:24
@Bob o/
single post, link, bad english, dodgy looking site...
Yup. Just checking for the Metasmoke records
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@jokerdino that's only because socks don't fit on your dino feet
lol.I grabbed it off tavern on the meta
@Bob no no
He can't get em on with those tiny arms
saludos a todos
16:25
@JourneymanGeek o.o Do you have moddy info on its spam-ness? It seemed like removable signature in a post to me
@M.A.R. I looked at the link, and the way it was written I suppose
and between the votes and the user there's no real loss from the post being deleted
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> Does PowerShell work on operating systems other than Windows?
ok, that one answer is probably @BenN's... ayup.
:D
@M.A.R. outside hunting down a gaggle of spammers in the same ip, there's little magic moddy tools there
we see flags, and we basically have to make a judgement call
I've never had anyone complain yet
Complaining
16:31
@Bob that's as close as we get to a Quora-like "Ask to Answer" functionality
mentioning PowerShell guarantees @BenN's involvement
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@allquixotic heh. In a very real sense, RA does that ;p
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anyone know how I can insert a ^H character (BS) in vim?
I read that as "in vain"
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oh, ctrl+v, ctrl+H
16:34
You can also enter the four-digit hex code after Ctrl+V
Which in this case is 0008
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@allquixotic looks vaguely interesting, but... scaleway still wins on pricing :P
@Bob for GPUs?
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@allquixotic no, no GPUs
yay, found an answerable question
btw @Bob I also ordered a MBP w/ TouchBar 15", with the Radeon Pro 460... yeah yeah it's a crap GPU etc etc, it's basically an RX 460, but I'm sure I can play most modern games at near 60 FPS at 1366x768 res or so, and older games at 1680x1050 or w/e
gonna sell my existing 13" MBP for as much as I can get
basically a 3x faster GPU than the 13" MBP, and double the CPU cores and L3 cache so should see a boost there too
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16:49
0
A: Does bash have a hook to determine when child shell exits?

Floofy FoxYou were on the right track with trap. What you want is the following: trap "stty erase ^?" SIGCHLD You can add that to .bashrc. Note that this will run when any subprocess ends. If you are editing the file with vim, I find the easiest way to add the ^? is to stty erase ^H first and then use B...

also the AMD GPU drivers on MacOS are far, far better than Intel's, so it'll probably make SWTOR in wine run better :P
hah
Now that I have a job again, I can restart the clock on a few things I want <3
-1 because foxes are inferior to meow-cows. — allquixotic 19 secs ago
@allquixotic that's going to confuse people ;p
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16:52
yay
@allquixotic not gonna wait for the next gen? :P
I'm curious what MS is going to announce in two weeks
@Bob Flagged for sock promotion :)
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@DavidPostill :(
We have a user on PPCG that has managed to accidentally run rm -rf 3-4 times in a few months.
We need a intervention. It is the user Downgoat. Please send help
@Bob I'm sure people are going to wonder how such a low rep user manages to write such brilliant answers ;p
@Christopher ... that's just odd
16:56
@Christopher PPCG = ?
@ThatBrazilianGuy Code Golf
@JourneymanGeek He once made a file named "~"
OH MY
@DavidPostill ... like aibobot and her HNQ? Oh wait, was oneliner
16:57
Ah, programming puzzles
@ThatBrazilianGuy no. Programming puzzles
no "and"
That's exactly what I said!
I suspect you can alias rm to something that doesn't blow away a big folder structure without confirmation
At least modern systems won't let you rm -rf / without --no-preserve-root
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17:00
@BenN now all you need is rm -rf /* :D
(3 month old roomie, the week we formally adopted him)
@Bob :'(
@JourneymanGeek The top left looked NSFW till I opened the full size image :)
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@DavidPostill Beginner's luck? :P
17:05
@JourneymanGeek You have this way of looking like an old wise man dog even at 3 months old
lol
Wauzer puppies look like gumpy old men
then age backwards
17:36
@Bob the next gen macbook? hello, 2019! or 2020
@FloofyFox Knock, knock. I'm a sock.
the last 3 GPUs in my 3 most recent laptops
NVS 5400M in a Lenovo T530; Iris 550 in 13" MBP; RX 460 (ish; more GPU cores but lower clock) in the 15" MBP
17:55
nothing close to a 1080, but I also don't want a 6 pound laptop
or worse
18:32
roar
There's a certain joy to virtualization that's hard to describe. It opens up a whole world of operating systems and software that would otherwise require another set of hardware to run.
I discovered Microsoft Virtual PC, and later, VirtualBox, in high school, and I spent countless hours fiddling with Linux and whatnot with the software.
......when i was a kid....
 
2 hours later…
21:05
@BenN or just join area51
superuser.com/users/54785/richie086 Every single one of this user's 6 suggested tag edits was copied content.
@Ramhound Thanks. I'll take care of it.
21:23
NP if it wasn't every single pending edit I wouldn't have noticed, in fact, it wasn't until I recognized the words of one suggested edit before I started to reject it for the copier reason
Looks like he plagiarizing other stuff also...
From last night: I was able to install a full openSUSE KDE system with 512 MB of memory, but swap must be configured. The desktop will boot with as little as 256 MB, but suffers from unresponsiveness due to heavy swapping.
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A: Difference between RAM bandwidth and speed

Richie086DDR is just an acronym for Double Data Rate. Compared to single data rate (SDR) SDRAM, the DDR SDRAM interface makes higher transfer rates possible by more strict control of the timing of the electrical data and clock signals. Implementations often have to use schemes such as phase-locked loop...

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A: Definition of a processor vs core (multiprocessor vs multicore)

Richie086Yes, A processor is a generic term used to describe any sort of CPU, regardless of cores. Same goes for CPU, it does not imply single or multi-core and can be used to refer to either. A central processing unit (CPU) is the electronic circuitry within a computer that carries out the instructio...

^^ copy and paste from the Wikipedia article...
Oh. Tis worse that I thought. Thanks.
@DavidPostill Suspend the user?
21:34
.....
for a professional technical writer I expect more... :-)
I could link other borderline examples where references are provided but quotations are not used.
The VM will not boot with 192 MB of memory.
But those examples would be considered plagiarism in the education
(I really hate plagiarism)
@Rahul2001 It missed WinME becomeing a steaming pile of manure, and Win10 turning into a wiretapping device that reboots when it wants.
🙋‍♂️
21:48
@Ramhound That didn't quite work :)
It's a high five emoji?
or wave emoji
@DavidPostill Unless he wanted to say "female transgender" in emoji.
newest Injustice 2 trailer isn't about the base game but of the DLC, lol
@Ramhound Yes. But it doesn't display correctly on most devices ...
iOS for the win :-)
lol
> It was approved as part of Unicode in 2010 so it should be displayed properly on all devices.
I see a person, gender unclear, plus a male/Mars symbol
Right because I used the male 🙋🙋‍♂️🙋🙋🏿🙋🏽‍♂️🙋🏾‍♂️🙋🏼‍♂️🙋🏽 Are others
> The Man Raising Hand emoji is a sequence of the 🙋 Happy Person Raising One Hand and ♂ Male Sign emojis. These are combined using a zero width joiner between each character and display as a single emoji on supported platforms.
> Man Raising Hand was added to Emoji 4.0 in 2016.
anywys :-$
off to home!
21:56
At least if I say \o people know what I mean :)
If anyone sees that 7700k overheating Intel Burn Test question link then to that article:-)
@DavidPostill Yeah! That's literal lowercase o, obviously!
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A: Kaby lake i7 7700K overheating

NilushanI think it may be a problem with the PSU and not an issue with an overheating CPU. Overheating CPUs usually cause the computer to shutdown if the CPU temperature exceeds the threshold set in BIOS. PSU problems such as a faulty PSU, underpowered PSU etc.. usually cause the computer to freeze. F...

@ThatBrazilianGuy Lol. Don't you recognize a lefty waving?
@DavidPostill Both your comments indicate you "fixed" it for them but no edits exist?
22:05
@Ramhound Oops. Wrong canned comment. Thanks.
@Ramhound I only fix up answers from new users. Not those from people who should know better.
He can come back and fix them himself later :)
@Ramhound This is why Intel needs to stop skimping on the thermal connection between the CPU die and IHS.
AMD got this right in their Ryzen processors by soldering the IHS to the die. Why does Intel insist on using low-quality TIM?
@bwDraco They took their market advantage for granted :-)
If AMD can get the tools to the developers that required them for optimizing performance, AMD can deal a serious blow, but sadly I don't think it will happen fast enough
the MS patches should already be out, the compiler optimization tools should be out, but they delayed them until after release
now Ryzen has the potential to out perform Intel CPUs but people only find artiicles saying otherwise:$
PR101
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A: Kaby lake i7 7700K overheating

bwDracoThis is a known problem with the i7-7700K. I'd blame it on the low-quality thermal paste Intel uses to conduct heat from the processor die to the integrated heat spreader (IHS). There is plenty of evidence that this is a major factor; among other things, users who "delid" the processor (remove t...

This will very likely make it to HNQ.
40 reputation needed to hit the rep cap with less than 90 minutes to go.
Also, another piece of great news for Ryzen users: wccftech.com/…
That's why people call AMD hardware "fine wine". It gets better as it ages.
Ah. Alas @bwDraco... No more interesting milestones until 100k
Broke 30k rep today 🐲🎉
🎉🎉🎉
23:43
@DavidPostill How do you know stickman is a commie? What's he waving, a URSS flag?
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