Vedanta and Philosophy

Tezz

02:44

@TheDestroyer what does Vamakesvara Tantra contains..?..

The Destroyer

@Tezz I don't know much. it's a Shakta tantra with some info on Sri Chakra, Sri vidya.

@Tezz Shall i mail you?

Tezz

@TheDestroyer Oh ok... mail me... at least I will know how will Shakta Aagam look like...

The Destroyer

@Tezz In week days answer, you can highlight Sanskrit words. Good answer.

The Destroyer

03:10

@Tezz Mailed you. It's 41 MB in size.

Tezz

03:25

@TheDestroyer Oh.. Thanks for the edit... I didn't knew that it is possible to bold part of Words also...

Sree Charan

@Tezz @TheDestroyer शुभोदयः I thought of editing it but it is author's affiliation. So halted.

The Destroyer

@SreeCharan I have full rights to edit Tezz answers and Tezz has full rights to edit my answers. haha...

Tezz

@SreeCharan haha... you can also feel free to edit my answers...😀😀

@TheDestroyer haha... ✔✔✔

Sree Charan

@TheDestroyer haha...

@Tezz OK.

Sree Charan

03:52

@Pandya Keshav Srinivasan and I belong to same veda shakha.

Pandya

04:13

@SreeCharan Krishna Yajurveda Aapstamb Shakha? Ok

Sree Charan

@Pandya Yes.

Keshav Srinivasan

04:37

@SreeCharan Oh, Rama is your favorite? Then you would like the poems of Kulasekhara Alwar. Rama was his favorite too.

@SreeCharan Also, did you know that Nathamuni's death involved devotion to Rama? Nathamuni saw a king traveling with his retinue and he chased after them, thinking that they were Rama, Lakshmana, Sita, and Hanuman. And along the way he passed away.

SwiftPushkar

04:53

Good Morning To All 🙋🌞🌸🌷🍁

@Tezz - Wow , impressive find and answer abt.weekdays , i am giving u 5 sun's instead of 5 stars today ☀☀☀☀☀😀😀

Tezz

@SwiftPushkar haha... Thank you!... 🎯🎯🎯

SwiftPushkar

05:09

@Tezz - but actually i am not giving u the sun's cause sun itself is a STAR 😁

The Destroyer

@SwiftPushkar But Brahman is cause of Sun 😁

SwiftPushkar

@TheDestroyer - Yes , and in Hinduism sun is also said to be Brahman 👍

The Destroyer

@SwiftPushkar 👍

Sree Charan

@SwiftPushkar Scientific speculation is off-topic here. See related meta site. :P lol

SwiftPushkar

@SreeCharan - HaHa 😂😂lol , like that 👍👍👍

Tezz

05:15

@SreeCharan speculation in Hinduism is scientific by nature... 😀😀

@SwiftPushkar Sun is not a star... Stars are Sun... haha ....

Sree Charan

@KeshavSrinivasan Didn't know that. What is the story?

SwiftPushkar

@SreeCharan - but if we observed carefully in Hinduism texts like puranas and even upanishadas ,we surprisingly find some scientific theories , like motion of Planets , particle physics theories etc.

@SreeCharan - BTW , found Narayanopnishad same as GanapatiAtharvaShirsha , lot's of similarities in both😊

Sree Charan

@SwiftPushkar Yes. In sundara kanda of VR, Sita ma mentions about abortion. Valmiki mentions about a machine used to make boulders fly high in the air.

@SwiftPushkar Is it? any ways I don't know about both of them. I didn't read any upanishad.

SwiftPushkar

@SreeCharan - They both are upanishad's but they are like mantras Don't u know GanapatiAtharvaShirsha at least , How come?

Sree Charan

05:31

@SwiftPushkar I know they are mantras. But didn't hear the names before. Aren't they among 108 upanishads?

@SwiftPushkar It happened. When I see vedas and upanishads, I don't pronounce the mantras. Instead I only read the translation. Mis pronounciation will give bad effects.

SwiftPushkar

@SreeCharan - ohh ,ok but we can safely listen to mantras on web or in temple's or veda-Pathashala etc.👍 back in🔙🕛 Hour 😊

Keshav Srinivasan

05:52

@Tezz I just posted a question on Buddhism.SE about the Alankarabuddhi text quoted by Kumarila Bhatta:

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Q: Does the Buddhist text the Alankarabuddhi still exist?

As I discuss in this question, by far the most popular school of Hindu philosophy today is the Vedanta school, which is based on the philosophical portions of the Vedas. But in the time when Buddhism was at its peak popularity in India, the most popular school of Hindu philosophy was the Purva M...

Keshav Srinivasan

06:22

@SreeCharan Here's the story: gdurl.com/by4b

Sree Charan

06:35

@KeshavSrinivasan Is the "sage" mentioned is nathamunigal? Did he live for 540 years?

Sree Charan

06:49

@SwiftPushkar I listen only when a priest or an expert recites it.

Pandya

Today is Birthday of Swami Vivekananda!

^^ @Tezz @SwiftPushkar @SreeCharan @KeshavSrinivasan @TheDestroyer

Swami Vivekananda

Swami Vivekananda (Bengali: স্বামী বিবেকানন্দ) Bengali: [ʃami bibekanɒnɖo], Shāmi Bibekānondo; 12 January 1863 – 4 July 1902), born Narendranath Datta (Bengali: নরেন্দ্রনাথ দত্ত) (Bengali: [nɔrend̪ro nat̪ʰ d̪ɔt̪t̪o]), was an Indian Hindu monk, a chief disciple of the 19th-century Indian mystic Ramakrishna. He was a key figure in the introduction of the Indian philosophies of Vedanta and Yoga to the Western world and is credited with raising interfaith awareness, bringing Hinduism to the status of a major world religion during the late 19th century. He was a major force in the revival of Hinduism...

Sree Charan

@Pandya Yes. I also thought of going to Ramakrishna mutt today. But didn't go.

Pandya

@TriyugiNarayanMani btw, where do you live?

The Destroyer

07:11

@Pandya yeah. Read few lines of his works :P

@Pandya Delhi.

Tezz

07:25

@KeshavSrinivasan Ok.. Nice... !..

@Pandya Ok... Thanks for reminding...

The Destroyer

07:36

hinduism.stackexchange.com/questions/12185/…

@Tezz @SwiftPushkar @Pandya Haha. See this.

Tezz

07:54

@TheDestroyer haha... nice!...

@TheDestroyer I think I should answer that question...

Pandya

@TheDestroyer I think he doesn't know how SE works! Yes Haha nice comment.

The Destroyer

@Tezz Yeah. Answer it.

@Tezz what is source of Rudra gayatri Mantra?

Tezz

@TheDestroyer YajurVeda Taittariya Aranyaka... and also Maitrayani Samhita...

The Destroyer

@Tezz Ok.

Sree Charan

08:28

@Pandya Which comment?

Pandya

@SreeCharan actually the parent answer to the comment @TheDestroyer linked is deleted. You'll be able to see deleted posts after 2k. Though you're so closer to 2k.

Sree Charan

@Pandya Oh!! that one, I know see this.

The Destroyer

@SreeCharan sources?? please. We worship gods by our soul, not by sources. If you actually observe, there is no physical existance of god. We must believe in him truly. Don't just search for sources of those which are beyond our intellect. God made us. We cannot study god. Please – Gitu May 19 '16 at 17:32

Sree Charan

08:44

@TheDestroyer Yeah I've seen it yesterday. The answer had 2 upvotes too.

The Destroyer

@SreeCharan ok.

Pandya

12:31

@SreeCharan I think you've read Puranas right?

Keshav Srinivasan

15:19

@SreeCharan Yes, the sage is Nathamuni, and yes, according to traditional Sri Vaishnava accounts Nathamuni lived for hundreds of years.

Keshav Srinivasan

15:34

@SreeCharan By the way, after Nathamuni passed away, his shishya Kurugai Kavalappan stayed in that place and started meditating. He meditated for many years there until Nathamuni's grandson Yamunacharya came to that place in search of him.

@SreeCharan You see, Nathamuni wrote a work called the Yoga Rahasya, dealing with the secret methods of meditating upon Vishnu in order to attain Moksha. Nathamuni offered to teach the Yoga Rahasya to his chief disciple Uyyakondar, but Uyyakondar refused to learn it, saying "When there is a corpse how can there be a marriage?" What that means is "When there are so many people suffering in Samsara, how can I just meditate upon Vishnu and attain Moksha by myself?"

Pandya

@KeshavSrinivasan Interesting!

Keshav Srinivasan

@SreeCharan So instead Uyyakondar chose to learn the poems of the Alwars from Nathamuni, because that way Uyyakondar would not only get Moksha for himself but he would also get Moksha for other people by spreading the Alwars' poems far and wide. In any case, because his chief disciple Uyyakondar refused to learn the Yoga Rahasya, Nathamuni instead taught it to one of his minor disciples, Kurugai Kavalappan.

Pandya

@KeshavSrinivasan Do we have that "Yoga Rhashya"?

Keshav Srinivasan

@SreeCharan In any case, Uyyakondar's shishya was Manakkal Nambi, and Manakkal Nambi's shishya was Nathamuni's grandson Yamunacharya. Now right before Manakkal Nambi died, he told Yamunacharya, "Your grandfather Nathamuni wrote a work called the Yoga Rahasya, but he only taught it to one person, Kurugai Kavalappan. So you should find that person and learn it from him."

@Pandya I'm getting to that.

@SreeCharan @Pandya Yamunacharya searched far and wide for Kurugai Kavalappan. Finally he found him in the place where Nathamuni passed away. Kurugai Kavalappan was deep in meditation, so Yamunacharya approached quietly. Kurugai Kavalappan, without even opening his eyes, said "You must be someone from Nathamuni's family." Yamunacharya was shocked and asked "How do you know that?"

@SreeCharan @Pandya Kurugai Kavalappan responded "Because when I meditate, Vishnu is always with me. Even if Lakshmi comes, Vishnu never leaves my side. But as soon as you arrived, Vishnu left my side and went to you. If Vishnu loves you that much then you must be from Nathamuni's family."

@SreeCharan @Pandya So then Yamunacharya introduced himself and asked to learn the Yoga Rahasya. Kurugai Kavalappan said "I can only teach this knowledge at a very auspicious time, specifically at the moment of my death. So come back here right before I'm going to die and I'll teach it to you. I'm going to die many years from now; I've already planned the time and date of my death. So come back at that time."

@SreeCharan @Pandya So Yamunacharya wrote down the time and date on a piece of paper, and then many years passed. One day, Yamunacharya's son, who was a priest in the Sri Rangam temple, was reciting an Alwar poem, when he suddenly and uncontrollably kept repeating a single line from the poem again and again. The line said "Go to the Padmanabhaswamy temple right now."

@SreeCharan @Pandya Yamunacharya took that as a message that Vishnu wanted him to go to the Padmanabhaswamy temple in Trivandrum, Kerala for some reason. So Yamunacharya immediately went to the Padmanabhaswamy temple. When he arrived there, he suddenly realized "This is the exact date and time when Kurugai Kavalappan was supposed to die!" So Yamunacharya was not able to learn the Yoga Rahasya. And so the Yoga Rahasya was lost.

@SreeCharan @Pandya Maybe Vishnu wanted the Yoga Rahasya to be lost, haha

Pandya

16:02

:(

Keshav Srinivasan

@SreeCharan @Pandya But there is a modern-day descendant of Nathamuni named T. Krishnamacharya who claims to have rediscovered Nathamuni's Yoga Rahasya; see my question here:

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Q: Is Iyengar Yoga really based on Nathamuni's Yoga Rahasya?

The Alwars (also spelled Azhwars) are a group of 12 ancient Vaishnava saints who lived in Tamil Nadu and are famous for their poetry in praise of Vishnu. The 4000 verses of the Alwars were compiled by the Vaishnava Acharya Nathamuni into a book called the Naalayira Divya Prabhandam, which is cons...

history vaishnavism yoga sri-vaishnava

Pandya

@KeshavSrinivasan Btw, what do you think about Yoga Sutras of Patanjali?

Sree Charan

@Pandya Not all. Some parts of all puranas.

Pandya

@SreeCharan Btw, I found one easy question on Purana that you can answer:

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Q: What is the difference between Puranas, Upapuranas and Mahapuranas?

Is there any difference between Puranas, Upapuranas and Mahapuranas? What should we follow?

vedas puranas history teaching

Keshav Srinivasan

@Pandya Well, Patanjali's Yoga Sutras are refuted in Adhyaya 2 Pada 1 of the Brahma Sutras.

Pandya

16:12

@KeshavSrinivasan oh! I don't have Brahma Sutra right now, will check tomorrow. Thanks for pointing out.

Sree Charan

@KeshavSrinivasan I knew Uyakkondar and manakkal nambi as Pundareekaksha and Sri Rama misra respectively.

Keshav Srinivasan

@SreeCharan Yeah, those are their Sanskrit names.

Sree Charan

@Pandya Still a learner. I don't know the difference to answer the question. I don't think my answer would be suffice to that question. Thanks for searching a question for me. :)

Keshav Srinivasan

@SreeCharan So did you know the story of the Yoga Rahasya I discussed above?

Sree Charan

@KeshavSrinivasan Yeah. I read them daily in the guruparampara.

@KeshavSrinivasan I read just now. Thanks for the story.

Keshav Srinivasan

16:18

@Pandya Adi Shankaracharya says that the methods given in Patanjali's Yoga Sutras do not lead to Moksha. Only the Upanishads lead to Moksha.

@Pandya Adhyaya 3 Pada 3 of the Brahma Sutras gives the Vedanta school's techniques on how to attain Moksha by meditating upon the 32 Brahma Vidyas found in the Upanishads.

Pandya

@KeshavSrinivasan Yes, I remember he criticized Yoga method in "Sarva Vedanta Siddhanta Saara Sangrah" but it is not believed to be an authentic work.

Sree Charan

@KeshavSrinivasan While I was searching on the internet about our acharyas, I found a poem (taniya) praising Manakkal nambi as this We have three Ramas'. The first one is Dasharathi. He had a blemish that he killed all the rakshasas and done himsa(violence). Then Balarama who turned pink by drinking excessive alcohol. But we have our acharya Manakkal nambi who is the best of Ramas' and the blemishless one.

Keshav Srinivasan

@Pandya He also criticizes Yoga methods in the Brahma Sutra Bhashya.

Pandya

@KeshavSrinivasan These sentence can be found in your most of questions on Upanishad! Haha

Keshav Srinivasan

@SreeCharan Oh, that's nice, it shows the fervor of Acharya Bhakti. Who composed that Taniyan?

@Pandya Haha yeah

Pandya

16:22

@KeshavSrinivasan Ok. As you know I've not read Adi Shankaracharya Bhashy on Brahma Sutra, btw, I've found that recently in Sanskrit+Hindi on Internet Archive

Keshav Srinivasan

@Pandya Oh, that's nice.

Sree Charan

@KeshavSrinivasan I don't know. Some disciple of Rama misra.

Keshav Srinivasan

@SreeCharan Maybe it was Yamunacharya. By the way, do you know how Yamunacharya became a disciple of Manakkal Nambi?

Sree Charan

@KeshavSrinivasan No.

Pandya

@KeshavSrinivasan Btw, thanks for sharing that information. I liked it and bookmarked:

Nathamuni & Yoga Rahasya

1 hour ago, 45 minutes total – 17 messages, 2 users, 0 stars

Bookmarked 8 mins ago by Pandya

so that we can share anyone with simply linking :)

Keshav Srinivasan

16:27

@SreeCharan Nathamuni composed a work on logic called the Nyaya Tattva (which is now lost). As a little boy, Yamunacharya read his grandfather's work and became an expert on logic. So one day he decided to go to the court of the Pandya king and challenge him to a debate. When the king heard that a little boy wanted to debate him, he laughed and said "Aalavandharaa?" meaning "Has he come to rule over me?" That's how Yamunacharya acquired the name "Alavandhar."

Pandya

@SreeCharan don't read "@Pandya king" by mistake! Haha /cc @KeshavSrinivasan

Keshav Srinivasan

@SreeCharan In any case, the king agreed to debate the little boy, just for the fun of it. Yamunacharya was so good at logic that he could use logical fallaciesto prove anything he wanted. So he proved all sorts of things, e.g. that the king's wife was unfaithful to him, that the king was an illegitimate child, etc.

@Pandya Haha

@SreeCharan The king was so impressed with Yamunacharya that he gave him half of the Pandya empire! So Yamunacharya spent most of his life as a king.

Sree Charan

@KeshavSrinivasan Oh!!!

@Pandya Till you said your real name, I thought you as a king..:D

@KeshavSrinivasan How did yamuna muni turn become a monk?

Keshav Srinivasan

@SreeCharan In any case, in due course of time Nathamuni passed away, then Nathamuni's shishya Uyyakondar passed away, and so finally Uyyakondar's shishya Manakkal Nambi had the responsibility of bringing Yamunacharya into the Sri Vaishnava Sampradayam. Yamunacharya was a king and he had absolutely no interest in spiritual matters. So Manakkal Nambi came to the court of Yamunacharya and said "Your grandfather Nathamuni left you a very big inheritance."

Pandya

@SreeCharan no-problem. Redirecting to @SwiftPushkar.. : How about answering hinduism.stackexchange.com/questions/10323/…?

The Destroyer

16:37

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Q: Why would a scientifically advanced future community believe in multiple gods?

Polytheism was a common form of religion in ancient times. People believed that different gods lived and controlled various parts of nature (ie the sun, the moon, thunderstorms), and praying to these gods gave them a sense that they had control over their lives. In modern and scientifically adva...

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Keshav Srinivasan

@SreeCharan Yamunacharya was excited and said "OK, give it to me." Manakkal Nambi said it was too big to bring, so he offered to take Yamunacharya to it. Yamunacharya agreed, and so Manakkal Nambi took him to Sri Rangam. He showed him the Ranganatha statue and said "This is your inheritance." Upon seeing the statue Yamunacharya was completely changed. On the spot he decided to give up his kingdom and become a Sanyasi and shishya of Manakkal Nambi.

Sree Charan

@TheDestroyer The OP quoted @SwiftPushkar's answer.

The Destroyer

@SreeCharan Yeah.

Sree Charan

@TheDestroyer They write hardly a paragraph or two and get 28votes!!!!

The Destroyer

@SreeCharan Exactly. That too not upto the mark answer.

Pandya

16:51

@TheDestroyer Btw, have you visited Haridwar?

The Destroyer

Ganesha didn't say this dialogue. hinduism.stackexchange.com/questions/16719/…

@Pandya No. I didn't visit. Why Haridwar?

SwiftPushkar

@SreeCharan - which answer of mine ?

Sree Charan

@TheDestroyer Yes. They are debating on a topic which they have no idea about.

The Destroyer

@KeshavSrinivasan @SwiftPushkar @SreeCharan @Pandya Bori Critical Edition removed Vyasa and ganesha story. Lol..

Sree Charan

@SwiftPushkar Why take a different avatar every time?

SwiftPushkar

16:52

@SreeCharan - ok got it 😊

Sree Charan

Finally @SwiftPushkar gives up his mouna vrata!!! :D

SwiftPushkar

@TheDestroyer - yes , offcourse possibly they didn't found any mentioning ,but it's popular belief 😊

The Destroyer

@SreeCharan Why did @SwiftPushkar perform mouna Vrata?

Pandya

@TheDestroyer As I wanted to know whether you have seen the statue in Haridwar near Ganga:

SwiftPushkar

@SreeCharan - oh , no , not like that , There was no electricity here since morning , and yesterday i Sept while talking so forgot to charge my tab , so ,i was not online most of the time 😊

The Destroyer

16:55

@Pandya Saw in Movie.

Sree Charan

@SwiftPushkar It's OK. I was kidding.

Keshav Srinivasan

@Pandya I think I saw it on the way to Haridwar.

Pandya

@TheDestroyer ok

The Destroyer

@Pandya Did you visit Haridwar?

Pandya

@KeshavSrinivasan yes, were you were going or passing through?

@TheDestroyer yes.

The Destroyer

16:58

@Pandya ok. What all places you visted?

Sree Charan

@KeshavSrinivasan In my profile page, Impact of posts changed from 11k to 45k how is it possible? @Pandya

SwiftPushkar

@TheDestroyer @KeshavSrinivasan @Pandya @SreeCharan - BORI is in pune , also there is collage named Deccan collage here , which is famous for archeology & ancient literature studies 😊

The Destroyer

@SwiftPushkar Yeah. They prepared a critical edition collecting various versions of Mahabharata all over India and removed possible interpolations.

bori.ac.in/mahabharata_project.html

You can read BORI critical edition here

sanskritdocuments.org/mirrors/mahabharata/mahabharata-bori.html

Bibek Debroy, famous economist, translated it into English.

Pandya

@TheDestroyer "Har ki pauri" is main place, visited some site seen you may find en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haridwar#Places_of_interest, Also visited Rishikesh, Masuri and Nilkantha Mahadev.

SwiftPushkar

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/…

The Destroyer

17:04

@Pandya Saw that place in Video.

Keshav Srinivasan

@Pandya I passed by the Shiva statue, but the places I was actually visiting were Rishikesh, Haridwar, Devprayag, Joshi Mutt, Badrinath, and Mana Village.

The Destroyer

@KeshavSrinivasan Kedarnath?

SwiftPushkar

@TheDestroyer - These people from BORI & deccan collage ,often write in magzines about new findings ,purans , upanishadas etc. we are subscribing some ,but they are in marathi language

The Destroyer

Rudraprayag?

Pandya

@KeshavSrinivasan Yes, then you might had seen that statue.

Keshav Srinivasan

17:06

@TheDestroyer No, I didn't go to Kedarnath. That requires going by helicopter and we didn't have time. I wanted to go though.

@Pandya By the way, Joshi Mutt is the only Shankaracharya Mutt I've ever gone to. It has a beautiful Narasimha statue.

The Destroyer

@KeshavSrinivasan ohh..ok. That was the place where Nara, Narayana worshipped Shiva. you might know the story.

Pandya

@KeshavSrinivasan I'm not talking about Kedarnath. The statue is at Haridwar. I think you wanted to reply @TheDestroyer

Keshav Srinivasan

@Pandya Sorry, that message was for @TheDestroyer

Pandya

@KeshavSrinivasan yes, got it. no-problem!

The Destroyer

@Pandya @KeshavSrinivasan Sri M describes all these places in his book. He also disparages Gaudiyas in his book and he goes to Swami Sivananda Ashram at Rishikesh. haha..

Keshav Srinivasan

17:09

@TheDestroyer Do you know if that story is mentioned in any Puranas?

SwiftPushkar

What abt.first question on main , do we need to close it as duplicate?

The Destroyer

@KeshavSrinivasan yes.

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A: What is the story of Kedarnath Jyotirlinga?

Nara-Narayana were two prominent sages, who were sons of Yama and previous births of Arjuna and Krishna respectively. They lived in Badrikashrama and they were known for their fight with Sahasrakavacha. These sages did Tapasya for Lord Shiva daily and Shiva used to come here as Parthiva Linga pl...

Pandya

@TheDestroyer @KeshavSrinivasan Btw, I've not visited Joshi math and Kedarnath.

SwiftPushkar

or is it about vyasa?

Keshav Srinivasan

@TheDestroyer Thanks. I'm surprised Arulnandi Shivacharya didn't mention it in his list of stories, haha: gdurl.com/ohbJ/download

@Pandya Did you visit the rest of the places I mentioned?

Sree Charan

17:14

@SwiftPushkar Which question? about delivery in mother's home?

The Destroyer

@KeshavSrinivasan Is he the same one who talked about Supremacy of Shiva (you shared a doc with me and Tezz)?

SwiftPushkar

@SreeCharan - No , Reference to this statement in MB , that one 😊 , but i think not , its about specific quote , haven't noticed that before 😀

Pandya

@KeshavSrinivasan I've not visited Badrinath, and Mana Village.

Sree Charan

@SwiftPushkar First we need to answer the question with references that the said statement is not in the original MB. After the OP is satisfied, we may close or leave open. It is not off- topic.

@SwiftPushkar Duplicate is not the apt. flag regarding this question.

SwiftPushkar

@SreeCharan - no , my comment was " possibly this question already has an answer " 😊 but did somebody flagged it as off-topic? , cause i haven't

Pandya

17:21

@SreeCharan I don't have an exact idea. Following post discuss how it is calculated that may help you:

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We've got a new statistic on the shiny new Profile Page Prototype. It's not perfect yet. And we did a pretty crap job of explaining what it's all about! Let's talk. What you do here isn't just about solving one person's problem. A while back, a user contacted us about his friend's account. His...

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Keshav Srinivasan

@TheDestroyer Yeah, I'm referring to the same document I showed you earlier.

The Destroyer

@Pandya Do you know we can watch live darshans of some temples?

Pandya

@TheDestroyer yes, I think you or someone else have discussed it earlier. (Probably about watching Mahakaleshwara)

Sree Charan

@Pandya I was just curious. It climbed from 11k to 45k overnight.

The Destroyer

@Pandya yeah. It was me.

Pandya

17:26

@SreeCharan surprising.

@TheDestroyer Ok. Had you discuss as The Destroyer or Anil Kumar. Haha

The Destroyer

Sep 22 '16 at 10:45, by The Destroyer

@Tezz i watched Bhasma Arti of Mahakala temple.

:P

Pandya

:)

The Destroyer

@SreeCharan Now, do any channel show live Darshan of tirupati Venkateswara?

Sree Charan

@TheDestroyer Darshana of mulavirat on TV and photography inside temple is prohibited. But sevas like kalyanam, tomala, are live daily on SCVBC.

The Destroyer

@SreeCharan I think for Kalyanam they use Malayappa Swamy.

@SreeCharan It's bad that they don't telcast Mulavirat. They are getting so much money and anyways people visit tirupati even if they telecast it live.

Sree Charan

17:39

Many sevas are performed to malayappa swamy as he is the presiding deity of tirumala. THere are other srinivasa forms also they are ugra, koluvu, bhoga, main deity.

@TheDestroyer Many temples in south India don't allow photography. I also support the decision that the main deity should not be on TV.

The Destroyer

@SreeCharan Yeah. South temples don't allow it. Tirupati, Srisailam, Rameswaram don't have this facility. But Many north Indian temples do have this facility such as Kasi, Somnath, Shirdi, mathura..

SwiftPushkar

@SreeCharan - is SCVBC means -Sri Venkateshwara Bhakti Channel

Sree Charan

@SwiftPushkar Yes. It is administered by Tirumal tirupati devastanam.

The Destroyer

@SreeCharan I think it can be allowed. What's wrong in telecasting live?

Sree Charan

@TheDestroyer I don't know.

But I don't like it for no reason.

SwiftPushkar

17:44

@TheDestroyer - yes , Pandharpur vithoba ,Mahalaxaumi temple kolhapur , many iskon temples ,Tuljapur Temple ,Omkareshwar Temple, Mahakaleshwar Temple ,SiddhiVinayak (Mumbai) telecast live darshan

The Destroyer

@SwiftPushkar Yeah. Is Mumbai Siddhivinayaka Swayambhu?

Sree Charan

@KeshavSrinivasan btw, yesterday was Kudarai pasuram..

SwiftPushkar

@TheDestroyer - no its not swayambhu , like Dagdu Sethhalwai temple in pune , both are famous , but have murties :)

@TheDestroyer - Astavinayakas are swaymabhu

Lenyadri

Lenyadri (Marathi: लेण्याद्री, Leṇyādri) represents a series of about 30 rock-cut Buddhist caves, located near Junnar in Pune district in the Indian state of Maharashtra. Cave 7 is a famous Hindu temple dedicated to the god Ganesha. It is one of the Ashtavinayak shrines, a set of the eight prominent Ganesha shrines in Western Maharashtra. Twenty-six of the caves are individually numbered. The caves face to the south and are numbered serially from east to west. Caves 6 and 14 are chaitya-grihas (chapels), while the rest are viharas (dwellings for monks). The latter are in the form of dwellings and...

The Destroyer

@SwiftPushkar ok.

@SwiftPushkar Yeah. I read Mayureswara Story.

SwiftPushkar

@TheDestroyer - ok :)

The Destroyer

17:50

@SwiftPushkar how far are these caves from pune?

SwiftPushkar

@TheDestroyer - 90 km

The Destroyer

@SwiftPushkar ok. Bhima Shankar Jyotirlinga?

@SwiftPushkar Did you visit those caves?

SwiftPushkar

@TheDestroyer - almost same 80 to 90 but route is same , pune Nashik Highway

The Destroyer

@SwiftPushkar Maharastra is famous for Astha Ganesha temples just like how Telugu states are famous for Nava Narasimha Kshetras.

@SwiftPushkar ok.

SwiftPushkar

@TheDestroyer - oh ok :) interesting , i would like to know more abt them (Nava Narasimha):)

The Destroyer

17:58

@SwiftPushkar 1. Ahobilam Ahobila Lakshmi Narasimha Swami
2.Yadhagirigutta Jhwala Narasimha Swami
3. MalaKonda(Malyadhri)Malyadhri Lakshmi Narasimha Swami
4.Simhachalam Krodhaakara Varaaha Lakshmi Narasimha Swami
5.Dharmapuri Bhargava Narasimha Swami
6.Vedhadhri Yoga Narasimha Swami
7.Antharvedhi Aanandha Narasimha Swami
8.MangalaGiri Panakala Narasimha Swami
9.PenchalaKona Chathravati Narasimha Swami

Ahobilam is famous.

temple-of-secrets.blogspot.in/2013/09/…

SwiftPushkar

@TheDestroyer - yes , as you have posted , i was looking same site :) the Murties are grt.:) are some of these ancient murties ? i mean 1000-1200 years old

@TheDestroyer - are these different forms of lord Narasimha ?

The Destroyer

@SwiftPushkar I think so. Not so sure. Simhachalam temple says the spot where Narasimha saved Prahlada.

Sree Charan

@TheDestroyer Of those nava narasimha kshetras, how many have you visited?

The Destroyer

@SwiftPushkar My mother's kula Deva is MalaKonda (Malyadhri) Malyadhri Lakshmi Narasimha Swami

Keshav Srinivasan

@TheDestroyer Ahobilam is where Narasimha rescued Prahlada.

The Destroyer

18:04

@KeshavSrinivasan haha. Simhachalam Temple also claims the same.

SwiftPushkar

@TheDestroyer - oh ok :) so Malyadhri is village or name of the place right or else

The Destroyer

@SreeCharan I visited Malakonda Narasimha Temple.

@SwiftPushkar Yeah.

Sree Charan

@TheDestroyer I visited Yadagirigutta, dharmapuri, mangalagiri.

The Destroyer

@KeshavSrinivasan There are some claims that Ramanuja converted a Shiva temple into narasimha Temple at Simhachalam near Vizag.

@SreeCharan I haven't visited Managalagiri though it is very near to my place.

Sree Charan

@TheDestroyer There are five forms in Yadagirigutta(Yadadri) Ugra,jwala, Lakshmi, Yogananda and Gandabherunda nrusimha.

It is believed that Gandabherunda nrusimha resides in a shila there.

The Destroyer

18:09

@SreeCharan KCR improved yadagiri Gutta. He wants that temple to compete with tirumala temple.

Sree Charan

@TheDestroyer Anyway, that is a great temple and any government did not focus on development of the temple.

@TheDestroyer @KeshavSrinivasan Interestingly, to the shila of Lakshmi nrusimha swamy, there are nammalwar and ramanujacharya on the top.

The Destroyer

@SreeCharan Yes. Still there are many temples which are in ruins. Hindu endowment act is partially responsible for this. Because of that act, Brahmins are behaving like beggars asking money and also begging mafia outside temples irritating devotees. People go to temples for peace but they don't get it.

Sree Charan

@TheDestroyer There is also patha yadagirigutta temple aat lower yadagirigutta. There is a claim by local people that the lord who is unsatisfied due to the worship of HIm and came to Yadadri.

@KeshavSrinivasan Do you know the story behind Ramanujacharya called Godaagraja?

The Destroyer

@SreeCharan who is your kula deva?

Sree Charan

@TheDestroyer Our family have been worshipping VIshnu since many generations.

The Destroyer

18:22

@SreeCharan ok. Vishnu only or his avatars?

Sree Charan

@TheDestroyer From my father's side Venkateshwara and from my mother's side Narasimha.

The Destroyer

@SreeCharan ok.

SwiftPushkar

@TheDestroyer - have you heard or know the word "mahamohanaka" in any texts ?I want to know what is the meaning , this is related to lord Shiva , but wht is it?

Sree Charan

I have noticed that when @KeshavSrinivasan and @sv edit their own posts, it does not appear as "edited just now" but "remains answered x ago". But it doesn't happen to me. Does it have anything with rep?

The Destroyer

@SreeCharan You can edit within 5 min time span just after posting question. It shows answered x min ago. but after 5 min, it shows modified y min ago.

Sree Charan

18:31

@TheDestroyer Ok. Thanks.

The Destroyer

@SwiftPushkar i think i read about it but i don't remember anything.

SwiftPushkar

@TheDestroyer @SreeCharan - here shree ganapati is Buddhi Daivata ie. of intellect , knowledge and wisdom , but dont know why we consider him god of wisdom do you know why ?

@TheDestroyer - ok , never mind , just curious , never heard this word with lord shiva ..

The Destroyer

@SwiftPushkar I think due to his wife Buddhi.

not sure.

SwiftPushkar

@TheDestroyer - ok , but what is the story , is it given in Ganesh puran ? I have Hindi version of that :) i will upload that into your drive

The Destroyer

@SwiftPushkar @SreeCharan Bye! Sleeping. GN

Sree Charan

18:37

@TheDestroyer THere are several theories whether Ganesh is a brahmachari or married. many say that siddhi and buddhi are his attributes.

@TheDestroyer@SwiftPushkar Bye. GN.

The Destroyer

@SreeCharan Shiva Purana clearly says He is married.

SwiftPushkar

@TheDestroyer - ok bro , TC GN and take a nice sleep :)

Sree Charan

@TheDestroyer Oho.. Let's check it tomorrow.

SwiftPushkar

@SreeCharan - Gn to you also :) TC bye , and u too take nice sleep

Keshav Srinivasan

23:32

@Tezz I just posted a question related to the Shivajnana Siddhiyar and Purva Mimamsa:

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