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10:01
> MIIX 720 upgrades the CPU to Kaby Lake, but unlike the Core m7 version in the MIIX 700, the new model appears to feature 15-Watt processors. Lenovo doesn’t list the exact CPU models available, but they do list In the HD 620 graphics, rather than the HD 615 which would be featured on the Y series, so expect the MIIX 720 to offer up to a Core i7-7500U CPU, assuming the graphics aren't a typo.
Perfect.
10:14
What adoxa.altervista.org/delenxrd/index.html does is delete files so they cannot be recovered easily, wirght?
there isn't enough information
Bob
Bob
@Rahul2001 why do you ask?
curiosity? or is that a tool you need to use?
Both, I'm trying to create a tool and thought I might use it
Bob
Bob
@Rahul2001 if you just want a "secure delete", shred for Linux and cipher comes with Windows
@Bob hm...
10:21
NSA has such a good tools which they created for themselves and never release any of them for public
Bob
Bob
@Rahul2001 also, if you want a reference, I've gotta say this is a terrible one
@AlanWatch *cough* SELinux *cough*
they just can't win can they
@Bob lol, why?
Bob
Bob
don't release: "waaaaah they won't release to the public"
release: "waaaaah backdoors"
@Rahul2001 for starters, comments aren't in English... Finnish?
there's also many more widely-known shred-style utils out there
atleast they can release those tools which they no longer use
government's classified softwares..who knows what they are capable of
@HackToHell would be nice to know the charger they were using and the cable were either the ones you get with the phone or high quality or low quality ones
so many "exploding phone" stories don't make any mention of the charger/cable used
that story didn't even mention if it was plugged in at the time of explosion
it's actually quite easy to make a phone explode with poor power quality and a bad charger
10:48
> in normal operating conditions
This makes me suspicious
11:06
ooh
Borrowed a thermal camera
how toasty are you?
lol
The meatbag will upload it in a bit. He's currently cutting a swathe through barbarian hordes
Is this the bot that doesn't reply to anyone?
11:30
or he would if he could work out how to get the images off the ipad its on
@Randy, there is no need to avoid mentioning a particular manufacturer if you have a legitimate question regarding a product made by said manufacturer. As long as it isn't evident you're spamming, we're not going to think you're endorsing the manufacturer, nor are we going to flag your post as spam. — bwDraco 11 secs ago
Bob
Bob
@HackToHell ...pouch cells dont "explode with a terrifying blast", they deflagrate...
@JourneymanGeek you blurred out the human
TIL, dog fur is an effective at hiding from thermal imaging
@Burgi >_>
11:39
as if we could have worked out who it was from a thermal image!
Actually it totally looks like my human
My apologies.
lol
tbh I mainly blurred out my image cause it was funnier
This is why I need a sense of humor.
Narrowly avoided an incident.
@JourneymanGeek i was about to say....
11:42
This is what I borrowed it for tho
FLAGED!!!!!! YOU ARE SHOWING THE NAUGHTY BITS OF A COMPUTA
this is why i didn't want to deploy on the last day before christmas
the 301 redirects that i have been provided do an infinite loop
I need to work out a semi scientific way to do this tho
yey shifts!
yey getting to work and it's about _1000C_
@allquixotic Lithium-ion cells do not explode in the sense of detonating with a shock wave. When a cell vents, excess pressure is released through a hole in the cell and while it can generate intense heat and flame, it is not blasting parts of itself at high speed.
Any properly-designed Li-ion cell is not so tightly sealed that gas build-up can cause it to blast apart at high speed.
"Explosion" is a misnomer for this condition.
/nitpick
When properly designed, a battery doesn't have to fail explosively. Then again, this is a high-discharge IMR cell, which is less volatile than the high-capacity ICR chemistry used in most devices.
come into work on my first shift and all hell is breaking loose
@djsmiley2k What's up?
Bob
Bob
12:37
58 mins ago, by Bob
@HackToHell ...pouch cells dont "explode with a terrifying blast", they deflagrate...
@Rahul2001 the phones aren't working properly, I've had more calls in my first 37 minutes than I have in most half days
because for some reason there's only 3. first liners at their desks :/
wait
if the phones arn't working, how do they call you?
2nd line gets calls if 1st line don't pick up because their phones are broken?
Escalate to the call center supervisor :)
@Bob And that's terrifying when they do that when in the pant
12:40
@HackToHell TWSS
@DavidPostill lul
2nd line gets called because there's no first liners in ! D:
hiya folks
question
I'm trying to run this exe (see pic below) from my windows 2003 server
but it just won't start
12:55
Could you be any less precise?
I'll try to be less precise
I have a windows 2003
an old server
ok
nope
there's no x32 architecture in windows
it should be x86
there's a x32 arch in linux, but its a wierd and eidritch thing
that's precise @JourneymanGeek
Bob
Bob
12:57
@JourneymanGeek probably just shoddy naming
so, that's not right
so the next question I'd ask is "is this an official package?"
Bob
Bob
also Server 2003 is ... not supported
@bob it was my naming
Bob
Bob
@AndyK soooooo, what was the original name?
@bob not supported maybe but there are still a lots of 2003
Bob
Bob
12:58
cause y'know you can't just rename a 64-bit binary to "x32" and have it run, right?
@djsmiley2k But you said there's 3 at their desk. Are they on strike, refusing to answer the phone?
and the next question I'd ask if so is which one
original name is postgresql-9.3.15-1-windows.exe
I'm trying to launch it
Bob
Bob
And what happens when you try to run it?
@bob nothing
Bob
Bob
12:59
Until further notice, I'll assume your computer just explodes.
it just refusing to start running
there are other install.exe types that can run
and other msi
too
@AndyK Does it appear in task manager / process explorer / process hacker?
Bob
Bob
13:00
@JourneymanGeek yea, that sounds like the one he grabbed
but the postgres one and some others are refusing to start
@JourneymanGeek as Bob said, this is where I got it
Bob
Bob
at a glance, I'd guess the Windows Installer tooling on 2003 simply doesn't support that version of MSI packaging
@DavidPostill nope for the 3
@AndyK see, this is essential information we shouldn't have had to guess.
@JourneymanGeek sorry I'm knowledgeable on some of the things but not everything
13:02
@AndyK this is the basics of "how to ask people for help"
We're not aware of your environment
this is basically like walking into a shop and telling them your thing isn't working
and you left the thing at home
I can say more but I won't , you got a point
Try running the installer from a cmd prompt
maybe it'll issue an error
Bob
Bob
I wonder if Azure has 2003
nah
but based off what we have, there's no way we can tell you what's wrong
that's a very good idea. Let me have a look
@JourneymanGeek just ideas are enough
13:05
I'm trying my best to find solutions with the little I have
familiar
to be honest, running this on linux would be much less painful
Bob
Bob
@AndyK Protip: start by telling us exactly what environment you're running in.
Bob
Bob
13:06
Service pack levels, bit-ness of the OS...
today's dilbert is me
@AndyK Broken download? Are you sure the file downloaded completely and correctly? Can you verify the file size? Hash?
@Bob windows 2003 server
Bob
Bob
29 secs ago, by Bob
Service pack levels, bit-ness of the OS...
@Bob omg
this is a good one
13:06
@AndyK you can reasonably assume people have any information you've given
Bob
Bob
and there's also Server 2003 vs Server 2003 R2
they're different operating systems
@DavidPostill they're likely on calls or 'busy' with stuff
I was not even aware of that you see...
protip winver screenshots are awesome for telling people what the hell you have
Where is the T_T button?
13:07
with windows 10, it can save you a lot of madness.
Journeyman , Bob, that's happened when you work for a company that under invested in IT for many years ...
Bob
Bob
@AndyK What, they hire people who don't know how to find out the service pack level?
He's not wrong.
@AndyK I built my first web server out of a spare box that was thrown out
13:09
Bob, I'm suppose to be the data analyst, not the sys admin ...
@AndyK I suggest reading about help vampires
once you have, you might understand the angst.
Bob
Bob
I mean, problem #1 is that it's an old OS. Support is iffy. Problem #2 is you haven't actually narrowed down the specifics of said old OS yet...
Sigh.
yeah, I'm meant to be 2nd line and extended managed service support
I shouldn't be doing password resets.
Bob
Bob
Right click "My Computer". Click "Properties". Screenshot that and upload.
Let me do that Bob
Bob
Bob
13:10
Meanwhile I'm gonna go find the liquor.
wow, I didn't know winver was an actual command tho
@djsmiley2k I mainly started using it cause of 10 and it's rolling releases
What is a data analyst anyway?
Number cruncher :P
I guess it's someone who takes data and converts it to HRT (Human readable text, not hormone replacement therapy) :P
And what @Bob and I are talking about isn't deep sysadmin juju. It's basic information in describing a problem
Bob
Bob
13:22
> 1 Farad
nooooooooooooooope
thats huge
Bob
Bob
> There is no 'overkill.' There is only 'open fire' and 'I need to reload.'
> ooooooooooooooo
lol
The cap ejected its contents like a rocket, and it sounded likr gunfire o_O
things are going well for brexit.... bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-38498839
13:33
Jan 22 '16 at 8:05, by bwDraco
Wondering just how far the contents of a exploding capacitor would penetrate into ballistic gelatin...
Bob
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@AndyK y'know, you can take a photo if screenshots are hard...
Dog
Dog
13:55
Floof?
Bob
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Floofq.
lol
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A: What's better for a physical layout of HDD and SDD drives in a computer case?

Journeyman GeekPractically speaking, with just two drives it should not make a difference on an actively cooled system. If your system simply cooled itself on convection, sure, this may be the case. The 'minimal'/Standard ATX layout is designed to pull air through the front, sometimes with a front fan, over...

I gotta get me one of these.
@bob thanks mate
We'd finally took the decision to use a windows 2007 desktop to run the things
14:11
@AndyK I hate to break this to you... but there's no such thing as windows 2007
@JourneymanGeek I mean Windows 7
I hate windows !!!
Not the best option but meh, alright for development I guess
14:34
halfway to repcap!
lol
You overachievers ;)
i'm hoping to dine out on this one question for a good 3 or 4 months
another 10 rep and i can do tag synonyms
hm
@JourneymanGeek Done. Wiped the entire machine and everything attached. Over it. Gonna get Spotify or perhaps Netflix. At least I learned some networking in the process — Kolob Canyon 6 hours ago
WIN!
14:42
flag as duplicate
I'mma flag u as duplicate.
what an interesting prospect
tis impossibru
a true identical clone down to the very fundemental particles is impossibru
i hope the @BurgiPrime is having more fun than I am
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Q: Can I share a Linux VM between a Windows PC and a Mac?

intAI've been looking to use a Linux VM as my development environment as a way to start fresh and have a whole OS dedicated to dev. I use two computers mainly, my Windows desktop and a Macbook. What I'd really like to do is create a Linux VM an have it live on a network drive (probably hosted on the ...

Does the PC vbox format for a saved machine work on a mac?
If so, this is an easy answer, but I'm not sure and can't test :(
14:47
yup
though you want to do an OVA probably
@JourneymanGeek ova?
@djsmiley2k its an egg
Well actually no
Dog
Dog
14:51
ovum?
If its the same virtualisation software it should just work
'universal' vm container format
Dog
Dog
He means OVF
Open Virtualization Format (OVF) is an open standard for packaging and distributing virtual appliances or, more generally, software to be run in virtual machines. The standard describes an "open, secure, portable, efficient and extensible format for the packaging and distribution of software to be run in virtual machines". The OVF standard is not tied to any particular hypervisor or processor architecture. The unit of packaging and distribution is a so-called OVF Package which may contain one or more virtual systems each of which can be deployed to a virtual machine. == History == In September...
does virtualbox use that?
it imports and experts it
Dog
Dog
Everything does
14:52
I think it has the option, but when you import it, it saves it out as it's own version?
its a good way to make sure your config files are the same
Dog
Dog
Well, yeah... it can
Allegedly these are utterly evil overlords maine coon kittens
\They do have big ears.
I want a norweigian forrest cat
but don't tell my kittens that
15:08
lol
Dog
Dog
"City needs more water" -_-
That's more like a tsunami than a flood, tbh
hmm
parts of it on fire
Hmm. The warning thing up there says Tsunami but the tweet or whatever they call it ingame, uses #Flood
'I can fix this' <clicks for tsunami>
the flooding comes after
15:16
@Burgi Repcap * 3 and a new hat :)
congrats
15:40
lol
that beard doesn't suit you as much as @JourneymanGeek's suits him
@Dog what game is it ?
Cities: Skylines is a city-building game by Colossal Order and published by Paradox Interactive, released on 10 March 2015 for Microsoft Windows, OS X, and Linux. The game is a single player open-ended city-building simulation. Players engage in urban planning by controlling zoning, road placement, taxation, public services, and public transportation of an area. Players work to maintain the city's budget, population, health, happiness, employment, pollution (land, water and noise), traffic flow, and other factors. The player can also play in a sandbox mode with two mods that come preinstalled in...
I think
its like a good version of simcity after EA broke it
15:51
o_o
16:09
Loads fine here
@djsmiley2k It's random. I tried the link here again and it worked. I went back to the question and tried the link in the comment and got:
:)
Status code 502: Bad Gateway
Reload doesn't help
Doesn't work here either
It's loaded once from 6 attempts.
WOOOOHOOO
@Burgi ??
16:16
i can make tag synonyms
@Burgi lol. you realise you also need to have sufficient rep in the tag to make the synonym. Which sucks if it is a new tag as all you can then do is propose a synonym and beg a mod to actually make it ...
wha....
@Burgi I had that problem with - I could create the tag and propose a synonym, but because I had no rep in or @JourneymanGeek had to create the synonym
whats the point in the privilage then?
Look at superuser.com/tags/synonyms - all the synonyms are created by mods
"Users with this privilege and a total answer score (total upvotes minus total downvotes) of 5 or more on the tag, can suggest tag synonyms. Users with a total answer score of 5 or more on the tag, can vote for tag synonyms."
It's the voting that is the problem.
16:32
K, well, it's not the link at least ;)
^ happens too damn much
bye folks
@HackToHell especially as non-terrorist ;D
@HackToHell and we're talking round of ammo right, not round of the game ;D
the talk in our office today is about the crazy m62 shooting
16:49
eeeeew !!no
63 MB +_+
@Burgi I've not really read anything yet
was the guy some known gangster or something?
@djsmiley2k There are some claims that he was a drug dealer and had been shot at before (both his house and his person).
He was also was acquitted of attempted murder seven years ago following a shooting in Birkby, Huddersfield.

He was found not guilty after a judge threw out the prosecution case against him.
17:12
@djsmiley2k lololol
the next interesting privilage is at 3K
@PaulVargas Moral f the story: don't ever mess with @JourneymanGeek.
lol
@Dog I don't want to dog, I want to cat. I want to sit for hours doing nothing but looking classy and awesome, and giving the others the privilege of occasionally giving me snacks and caressing my skin fur. In the comfort of my own air conditioned home, the sun be damned.
Sorry, clippy, but for you it will have to be snacks only.
17:28
lol
18:04
yey snaphat
@DavidPostill hmmm ok
Kaby Lake for desktops! anandtech.com/show/10959/…
18:20
Sigh
Telefonica 'splode'
I call and they sound like I've just woken them up
I ask about the site being down 'Oh yes huge issue in the area sorry, we'll email you once we know more' and start laughing very loudly
2
o_O
yey got a reply
'This network outage is due to a massive incidence in the area related to a cut affecting the optic fiber in the network. There is currently a team working on finding the location of this cut in order to repair it and they hope to solve this incidence in a few hours but we don’t know the exact ETA.'
oh dear oh dear
@djsmiley2k Shit happens ...
land cable sharks
@D
might be under the sea
it is Jersey after all :/
@djsmiley2k What's Jersey got to do with it? Telefonica are Spanish ;)
Oooer another hat :)
@DavidPostill they run cables all the places!
18:30
brb - ribs to put in the oven ...
Plus, overclockable Core i3-7350K (2C/4T @ 4.2 GHz) for users who want maximum single-threaded performance on a budget.
18:57
but what LGA are the desktop cpu's? D:
man, Hearts of Iron IV is such a cool game :D
Ah. LGA 1151 apparently.
@Leathe LGA 1151. They will work in existing Z170 boards but you'll miss out on features like Intel Optane memory support.
Optane uses?
Dec 30 '16 at 17:15, by bwDraco
The most obvious of them is to use it in Intel SRT to accelerate system performance with SATA or TLC NAND-based PCIe SSDs.
Dec 30 '16 at 17:19, by bwDraco
The other possible use case is to use it like any other storage device for handling particularly I/O-intensive workloads.
Dec 30 '16 at 17:28, by bwDraco
Photoshop users, for example, can use the Optane memory as scratch space. Video editing applications can benefit similarly. For workloads that would otherwise place TBs of data a day on the main SSD, Optane memory, with the ability to sustain petabytes of writes with ease, can be used as an application-managed cache or working area for a variety of other applications.
I'm rewriting history so the Germans win WWII on Veteran difficulty - instead of breaking their pact with the USSR, Germany invites the USSR into the Axis alliance. That's one big shift. The second shift is the Germans enact Plan Z, building extremely high-tech (for the time) surface ships, making them the superior naval force in the Baltic Sea, English channel, North sea, and out to the Iberian peninsula.
Wow. I've read about this game but it's a bit too deep for me :\
Not a history buff so can't really say much...
19:06
:34527415 yep. With a lethal triad of nearly unstoppable ships consisting of battleships, heavy cruisers and light cruisers, I beat down the navy of the western European allies in 1941-1942, making D-day nearly impossible due to the naval superiority of Germany
and since Germany doesn't have an eastern front anymore -- Poland has been divided between the Soviet Union and Germany -- they can focus 100% on the west
Hm. The 6000-series prices won't probably drop when the 7000-series comes out on the market. Because Intel.
I'm currently in the planning stages of a full scale naval invasion of Dover, England with 50 divisions of troops and tanks, which will be at least as epic as D-day
.__.
@allquixotic Grand strategy isn't my cup of tea, but have fun :)
@allquixotic Wait a sec while I call the SWAT, Black Ops and the Army. Stand still just a few moments, OK?
19:14
@ThatBrazilianGuy ah, things that only make sense on arqade. this is one of them
Also I'm pretty sure 2016 2017 UK doesn't have a large enough standing army at home to fend off 50 divisions of the late 1942 German Heer and Kriegsmarine (Army and Navy) showing up in southern England, just a few kilometers from London
and this is a more advanced version of Germany's actual 1942 technology, with more like 1944 tech... more reliable and faster tanks, better organized, field hospitals, logistics, recon, integrated anti-air and anti-tank, rocket artillery, etc
it's going to take 350 transport ships to move these 50 divisions to Dover because they're so heavy... all that extra equipment adds weight
@allquixotic lol @ 2016 2017
19:36
Dec 14 '16 at 4:22, by bwDraco
A bit of a bizarre experiment regarding my external SSD: I've been playing around with using it as swap space for my tablet (using root, of course). It works, but performance isn't great (not unexpected) and the power consumption (SoC load + USB) is very high, hence the Y-cable order.
With some tuning in the kernel settings to discourage termination of other apps, I am seeing poor responsiveness but I don't have to wait for apps to re-launch. Firefox is also much less like to discard background tabs.
@bwDraco: Tried zswap yet?
I already have zram enabled. However, I've purposely given the external swap higher priority.
ah cool cool
I'm using my tablet in place of my laptop so mobility isn't my highest priority right now. It takes a rather clumsy power setup to keep the tablet charged, requiring a Y-cable with one end attached to a power bank. I also needed to install an app to take a partial wake lock to prevent it from turning off the SSD when the screen is turned off.
It's really more experimental than practical as it breaks one of the assumptions Android makes, but it can prove useful at times.
I think I should tune the zram to not be so large. The system never manages to fully utilize it and the device pretty much locks up before it can be fully utilized. Maybe I'll drop it to something like 300 MB, and give it priority over the external swap...
interesting, ive never attempted to do what you've done. Although ive always had bad perf with filesystems on USB in general.. not sure if its mount options related or if its the type of filesystem itself but sometimes its just darn slow @ transferring files on to and off of.
19:45
The Linux NTFS driver is rather crappy.
agreed
that driver was in an experimental state in the kernel for YEARRRRS haha (which is probably why its soo horrendous)
Also, I really hope the Lineage team can continue building ROMs soon.
Cyanogen really made some bad decisions that effectively killed the company, forcing it to pull the plug on CyanogenMod. The Lineage team has forked the codebase and is expected to continue development soon. They're working on setting up the infrastructure right now.
oh i heard
ceo stepped down
You should see the release branches for android N .. its really disorganized and confusing.
It needs an overhaul thats for sure.
Yeah. Android fragmentation has not gotten better despite Google's efforts.
ive had 3 developer friends of mine leave the project because its a huge clusterf***
I blame steve
They blame steve too
19:52
Steve Kondik?
@allquixotic that's ok, we'll enact operation 'GTFO'. At which point the 'north' of the UK (anywhere north of london) all line up and stamp up and down, causing london and the south to break off and float out to sea
The problem with this setup is that the tablet sees the SSD as self-powered. I can't hot-swap even the power source; if I unplug the power bank, the SSD gets disconnected and the kernel panics.
1. Plug USB-OTG adapter into the power+data connector of the Y cable.
2. Plug power-only connector into power bank.
3. Plug USB-OTG adapter (now attached to the Y-cable) into tablet.
4. Plug the Micro-USB end of the cable into the SSD.

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