Root Access

That Brazilian Guy

12:00 AM

We've had chip and pin for a decade now... A bit more maybe.

Machines have the sliding slot, and cards have the magnetic stripe, but nobody uses it anymore for payments.

Bob

@ThatBrazilianGuy can't use that with Visa/MasterCard here anymore

I think Amex still accepts those

and it still works with EFTPOS

That Brazilian Guy

I've seen ADs for those newfangled bracelet payments and IIRC samsung pay on TV but it's like super ultra new stuff from a few months ago during the olympics

I'm not even sure how they work

I don't know the technical difference between tap and pay, android pay, samsung pay, apple pay, payments involving NFC, where they overlap, etc

WHATEVER Dave

Good resource for people curious about Qfuses: bits-please.blogspot.com/2016/02/…

That Brazilian Guy

It's far from an everyday thing here

allquixotic

@Bob I've got all my dependencies linking together to form a .dll on Windows, now: qtgstreamer (and gstreamer and glib), Qt 5.6, and googleapis

C++

strategy was to chuck all the third party stuff into the gstreamer SDK's include, libs and bin directories and hard-code my .pro INCLUDES and LIBS variables accordingly

bwDraco

12:04 AM

Dec 8 at 23:33, by bwDraco

Finally got my new chip and PIN debit card in the mail \o/

We are way behind.

allquixotic

@Bob people have too much time on their hands

Bob

@allquixotic lol

bwDraco

Most folks are using chip and signature, which, while better than just the magnetic stripe in that it protects against skimmers, does not protect against loss or theft of the card itself.

Bob

@allquixotic now that I know (probably) why it was so crashy, I still want to try the C# route if only to prove to myself that unmanagedexports is viable for future use :P

will do tonight if I remember

bwDraco

PINs are expected to be added to EMV credit cards in a few years' time.

Bob

12:07 AM

uh, yea, if you ask me to sign something it's gonna come out different every time

what is a signature

Journeyman Geek

I literally have two signatures

bwDraco

Yup. Right now, debit card users here get the benefits of chip and PIN, but not credit card users.

wat

usa sucks in terms of adopting most new tech

Bob

@JourneymanGeek I have $thingsSigned signatures :P

Journeyman Geek

I think I hit the point where my backup backup method is not scaling ._.

Bob

12:08 AM

@wat ehhh... US has far more electric car charging stations

it's really case by case

bwDraco

2 days ago, by bwDraco

France has had EMV since 1992.

wat

for some reason whenever I see EMV I read it as "electric motion vehicles"

bwDraco

EMV means "Europay/MasterCard/Visa", the three companies that originally developed the standard.

wat

yeah, I know

Henry WH Hack v2.0

@JourneymanGeek Are you interested in the latest and great SE site IoT.SE?

Journeyman Geek

12:13 AM

@HenryWHHackv2.0 No

allquixotic

@Bob somewhat different, but there are some super strict parts of US verification bureaucracy (can't really say what they are) that require you to sign with a signature that's (1) "legible" (you can read it as your name) and (2) is something you commonly use, because they'll go compare it to your credit card signatures etc

Henry WH Hack v2.0

Ok well take care! :)

Bob

@allquixotic did they miss the whole "uncopyable" part?

actually, funny thing... I'm currently implementing a touchscreen-signature thing

wat

speaking of touchscreens

has Android been ported to the Raspberry Pi?

I'm currently installing Lubuntu on mine

That Brazilian Guy

I think you need a Raspberry 2 or 3 to run Android, definitely not a 1.

wat

12:22 AM

I have a 3B

That Brazilian Guy

Depending on the articles I've read, it's either doable and runs okayish, or is doable and runs as a complete mess

But yes, there are ports, possibly more than one. Happy googling.

wat

srsly

apt-get update is going at the blistering speed of 18 kB/s

WHATEVER Dave

vroom

HN Singh

good

bwDraco

RPi1 is ARMv6 which does not meet Android's hardware requirements. RPi2 is ARMv7-A, while RPi3 is ARMv8-A; both of these can run Android.

2

WHATEVER Dave

12:35 AM

yup

HN Singh

Can I contact any user in personal message on SuperUser? If yes how can I do that?

bwDraco

No, we don't have a PM system.

HN Singh

ohhh.....don't you think its a necessary feature>

?

WHATEVER Dave

not sure id enjoy my messages being available on data.stackexchange.com imo

if it were ever implemnnted

HN Singh

oHH!

Ben N

12:44 AM

428

Q: Any way to send a personal message to another user?

There has been quite a few times that I wished I could send a message to another user on SO - not ask a question for everyone to see, but just a short message informing them of something or requesting them to do something. Are there any plans to allow this to happen in the future? Related: Ho...

Journeyman Geek

@HNSingh the SE model's designed around having almost no non public content.

Other than mod messages (which is typically 'sensitive' content), nearly everything you do here is in the open

Bob

@JourneymanGeek didn't those usually go through private chatrooms?

Ben N

Mod messages are on-site things; they show up in the inbox for recipients

Bob

oh *shrug*

Ben N

Mods do sometimes create private chatrooms and summon users to them for a little chat; this is less severe than a mod message

Bob

12:56 AM

@BenN yea, that's the only one I've experienced. was in response to a flag for serial downvotes.

so not severe at all :P

Ben N

:)

Journeyman Geek

@BenN no, there's a special mod message thing

Ben N

The first one I mentioned, right? Or is there a special chat mod message feature?

That Brazilian Guy

Hmmm... Corn... Yummy!

Journeyman Geek

@BenN Its not a chatroom ;p

I do mean the on site thinggie

Ben N

1:04 AM

Yes

I was mentioning the chat thing as a different thing, sorry for being unclear

That Brazilian Guy

@wat I have a screenshot somewhere of apt-get going at whooping THREE BITS PER SECOND. I took that screenshot.

Journeyman Geek

1:18 AM

eh, I was distracted

Posting an answer ;p

Ben N

It happens :)

Unrelatedly, why are there so many disk image formats, and why can't the Internet Archive pick one?

Because !!xkcd 927

!!xkcd 927

We should just !!standards that

bwDraco

1:22 AM

!!/learn standards <>https://xkcd.com/927

ChatBot John Cavil

@bwDraco Command standards learned

bwDraco

!!/standards

ChatBot John Cavil

@bwDraco xkcd.com/927

bwDraco

!!/forget standards

ChatBot John Cavil

@bwDraco Command standards forgotten.

@bwDraco Command standards learned

bwDraco

1:23 AM

!!/standards

ChatBot John Cavil

bwDraco

Okay.

@JourneymanGeek ^^^

Journeyman Geek

;p

We're a lazy bunch

3

@Ramhound FYI, some people have set up gaming boxes inside dell cases before

I nearly did myself

They're terrible but ironically having a better PSU probably would end up in better cooling, especially if they use that terribad side mounting method.

wat

1:41 AM

I have a Q9550 and a 750ti inside an optiplex 760

+ 8GB RAM

The SFF model

I have it stuck under the TV, I play TF2 on it

Journeyman Geek

(for reference superuser.com/q/1155552/10165 )

eww

I kinda hate dell's SFF gear.

and their cases are terrible

but I have trouble with smaller cases. I need to fit ~~myself~~ my hands in them.

Bob

A C2D/C2Q with a 2014 GPU o.O

Journeyman Geek

lol

apparently its not that bad

hothardware.com/reviews/…

Bob

@JourneymanGeek Granted, I'm using Sandy Bridge with a 2016 GPU. But IIRC C2Q is significantly behind.

Pre-DDR3, pre-integrated-northbridge...

bwDraco

I'vr said this several times: my father's Dell desktop is nine years old :\

Bob

1:53 AM

thenib.com/this-is-not-fine

This is fine v2 (some swearing in text)

Journeyman Geek

lol

My dad has a 2007 ish c2d laptop

and he dosen't want to upgrade

Offered him my x220 (with upgrades) even

Bob

Eh, really depends what you use it for.

Gaming is one of those things where modernising tends to make more sense

Word processing? Bleh.

Web browsing? ... depends on the site

Music? Bleh.

Journeyman Geek

music dosen't really need all that much power

Bob

Videos? ... depends on the screen, but most codecs work fine on $old CPU/GPU

Journeyman Geek

yup

Bob

1:55 AM

@JourneymanGeek Bleh as in, meh, old machine is fine

Journeyman Geek

unless you're doing stuff like madvr

ah ;p

Bob

Reasons to upgrade for those simpler uses would be for battery life, cooling/heat/fan noise, portability, power consumption

Processing power itself... not necessarily an issue

Journeyman Geek

yup

Bob

(long as you're happy waiting a bit for updates to complete :P)

Journeyman Geek

the r61's upgraded with one of my dodgy chinese SSDs

bwDraco

2:01 AM

lol

Dog

2:29 AM

@Bob Not Netflix 4K! Or YouTube VP9 HDR

Bob

@Dog s/screen/resolution/, sorry :P

Dog

@Bob :-o

Bob

oh wait, that was the key storage thing for Netflix, yea?

Michael Frank

I can't log into my pabx.................

Oh it's working now.

allquixotic

2:50 AM

!!tell 34055230 xkcd standards

ChatBot John Cavil

@JourneymanGeek Something went on fire; status 403

Journeyman Geek

!!tell 34055230 standards

ChatBot John Cavil

allquixotic

@ChatBotJohnCavil that's odd; I thought that used to work

Journeyman Geek

;p

Dosen't that use the google API?

Michael Frank

2:58 AM

Yea, I think you need to reference the XKCD number directly if you to use the !!XKCD command.

!!XKCD 1675

ChatBot John Cavil

I tried to send a message back, but I accidentally hit 'reply all' and now the ocean is clogged with message bottles.

bwDraco

3:35 AM

Jun 17 at 13:34, by bwDraco

@qwertyuiop The chatbot can't do Google searches. It's using a legacy API that is no longer available and likely will not be updated for the new API.

Michael Frank

Oh, is that what happened? I always thought the bot got banned from Google.

bwDraco

Yup.

bwDraco

3:59 AM

kotaku.com/…

Best Buy employees decided to buy a Wii U for a teen who walked into the store every day to play Super Smash Bros. on the display unit.

Best Buy Employee Buy's WiiU For Stranger

►

This shows that there are still truly kind-hearted people in the world who care about making people happy.

'Tis the season for giving...

allquixotic

4:17 AM

@bwDraco partly to get rid of the little ****er? :)

KronoS

4:35 AM

anyone run into a 0x8030024 install error when doing a fresh install of Windows 10?

bwDraco

!! s/3/30/

ChatBot John Cavil

@bwDraco anyone run into a 0x80300024 install error when doing a fresh install of Windows 10? (source)

bwDraco

> Windows is unable to install to the specified location

allquixotic

@KronoS most likely due to lacking storage drivers

if your storage solution is anything but perfectly ordinary (ordinary = an Intel or Marvell SATA 3 or 6 Gb/s controller on a modern-ish consumer desktop motherboard), you very well might need to load a driver disc with SATA or SCSI or whatever drivers

KronoS

it's a kingston SSD

I've installed on this before

BUT... this was a dual boot with ubuntu

I may not have fully deleted all the parts

I think

oh and happy belated b-day

bwDraco

4:47 AM

If you don't mind losing all data on the drive, try running diskpart clean, then repartition and reformat.

KronoS

ya tried that

still didn't work

bwDraco

...then the drive is faulty and needs to be replaced.

KronoS

I'm not so sure

it's a brand new SSD

not ruling it out

but I'd be really surprised if it was that

bwDraco

Try running a secure erase on it.

HackToHell

0

Q: Working with a IP URL in a Java's URL in Android

I am making an application that uses REST communication with a HTTP server running on the hosts laptop. The problem is that I can't use a URL with http://192.168.1.1:3000/api/poststuff. I get hostname lookup failure for 192.168.1.1. OkHttp refuses to get that that's an IP address and lookup can b...

java android url okhttp

bwDraco

4:49 AM

ata.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/ATA_Secure_Erase

Then repartition and reformat the drive. If it still fails, send it back.

Hennes

weird.

Rahul2001

Hello

HackToHell

@Hennes I know, I am pretty darn sure I have used IP based URLs before.

KronoS

ha! figured it out

I had to reset BIOS

XKCD

KronoS

5:03 AM

forgot to set the HDD config to AHCI

wait... is @XKCD a bot or an actual user?

allquixotic

@KronoS no; @XKCD is user -1, an RSS feed reader built into the chat code; neither a "bot" nor a user

just a snippet of code built into the chat engine that we as room owners have configured to subscribe to the XKCD feed

KronoS

Ah...

Journeyman Geek

5:25 AM

er, that

as a room owner, I think you can manage feeds on chat no?

chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/info/118/root-access?tab=feeds

wat

5:52 AM

Bob

6:48 AM

floff

Rahul2001

8:29 AM

Q: How many clickbait articles does it take to change a lightbulb?
A: The answer may shock you.

Journeyman Geek

......

Bob

9:08 AM

> Q: How many clickbait articles does it take to change a lightbulb? The answer may shock you.
A: <Next page>

> Q: SHOCKING number of clickbait articles needed to change a lightbulb! You won't believe it!
A: <Next page>

djsmiley2k

@bwDraco I once got a job kinda like that

Lan gaming center

I litterally spent all my money there

then just kept asking if I could have a job

Journeyman Geek

9:48 AM

@Bob more accurate, but you there's one simple trick to changing a lightbulb...

Elie

Um no luck with execution set to bypass

Any other solution ?

Journeyman Geek

@Elie er... there's a certain complete lack of context

Bob

10:04 AM

@JourneymanGeek was a convo earlier this afternoon

I think. I wasn't really here.

@Elie Checked event logs?

Journeyman Geek

10:18 AM

@Bob which was essentially the point I was trying to make ;)

Alan Watch

is it true that Windows secretly captures your photo through webcam and send to Microsoft when you login windows?

djsmiley2k

@AlanWatch erm, not that we know of.

Malware exists that takes photos tho, as well as security software for the same thing

Elie

Event logs show nothing

I'm not sure the script is running on startup

Alan Watch

I don't know from where this rumour was spread but it's not tough for Microsoft to design Windows like this

Journeyman Geek

@AlanWatch You can't believe everything you read on the internet.

and shrug, most of my systems don't have webcams anyway.

Elie

10:26 AM

So is there any way around for running a power shell script on login ?

Bob

@AlanWatch The question is why

Do you really, honestly think they have good reason to?

Elie

Data collection

Bob

That's millions of dollars in data transfer and storage. For what reason?

You should go evaluate use of Facebook first...

Elie

For the future face recognition maybe

Bob

And Google.

Elie

10:28 AM

Something related to govs I suppose

Hi fbi

Bob

I find it funny how many people are willing to believe Microsoft is this giant boogeyman, while ignoring Facebook and Google...

...who both make the majority of their money off ads and personalisation/big-data.

Alan Watch

NSA asks so much user information..Microsoft may agree to work with them

Elie

Some kind of magic happened now

Hold on everyone the script worked but guess why

Bob

@AlanWatch And they benefit ... how, exactly?

Elie

It turns out when before you login if the network status is yellow ... some policies wonlt apply

Bob

10:31 AM

So far I haven't really heard a rational explanation for how any of these claimed acts are supposed to be good for them *shrug*

Only a "they're probably evil"

Elie

I tried to login on a machine with a white network status the policy worked

Can anyone relate ?

Bob

@Elie You should probably ask a main-site question. With as much context/information as you can include. Probably on Server Fault because you're dealing with GP.

Elie

Nvm I don't want to even know as long as it works

Happy wife happy life who cares

Alan Watch

what is the name of network engineering chatroom?

when fingerprint scanner is adopted by every smartphone then websites will be able to identify you more precisely.

specially google and facebook

Bob

...that's... uh... not how any of this works

sigh.

Journeyman Geek

10:40 AM

@AlanWatch we don't usually deal with unsubstanciated rumours

Or as I like to say "I heard" is the most dangerous words in IT-dom

Bob

@allquixotic Stable with cdecl

brb while I go bash my head into a wall

djsmiley2k

11:13 AM

i did a thing!

@AlanWatch rofl

Journeyman Geek

11:53 AM

@djsmiley2k I do many things

Nearly all of them legal.

djsmiley2k

damnit my rear windscreen steams up so dang much

djsmiley2k

12:18 PM

I need a cloth thingy

Journeyman Geek

a disk towel?

djsmiley2k

disk towel?

DavidPostill

@djsmiley2k Is your rear window heater broken or have you forgotten to turn it on? ;p

Journeyman Geek

Not all cars have one.

djsmiley2k

12:38 PM

it's broken on a single strand

but it's just not good enough.

it melts ice on the outside perfectly fine

Hennes

Morning (mentally at least, almost 14:00 over here in what other call realtime)

bwDraco

roar

So, WD, via HGST, now has 12TB and (soon) 14TB helium-filled hard drives: anandtech.com/show/10888/…

However, there is a catch, and it's that the 14TB model uses SMR, requires special software, and therefore will only be made in small batches for business use:

> The Ultrastar He12 14 TB SMR version will be available to select customers only because this is a host-managed SMR HDD that requires applications to manage data transfers between SMR and PMR bands. Typically drives featuring SMR technology manage themselves automatically, which guarantees predictable performance, but does not take into account peculiarities of end-users' applications. Host-managed SMR HDDs rely on software to optimize their performance and/or power consumption.

Perhaps, as SMR gains more widespread acceptance (which should happen as hard drives are starting to fall out of favor in the mainstream) and performance expectations for hard drives continues to drop, we will start seeing consumer SMR drives.

The 10TB Seagate BarraCuda Pro, which represents the current state of the art for high-density consumer hard drives, is helium-filled but uses PMR technology instead of the slower SMR. SMR is really bad for random I/O.

!!/wiki Shingled magnetic recording

ChatBot John Cavil

Shingled magnetic recording

Shingled magnetic recording (SMR) is a magnetic storage data recording technology used in hard disk drives (HDDs) to increase storage density and overall per-drive storage capacity. Conventional hard disk drives record data by writing non-overlapping magnetic tracks parallel to each other (perpendicular recording), while shingled recording writes new tracks that overlap part of the previously written magnetic track, leaving the previous track narrower and allowing for higher track density. Thus, the tracks partially overlap similar to roof shingles. This approach was selected because physic...

Hennes

12:53 PM

SMR is nice for backups.

bwDraco

Yeah. By the time most people are using NAND and 3D XPoint starts to enter the mainstream, people will probably treat hard drives like they treated tape drives a decade ago: great for storing huge amounts of data sequentially, but not great for random I/O.

(Tape drives are gone from the consumer market but are still widely used in datacenters in situations where maximum storage density and long-term reliability are required. LTO Ultrium tape cartridges are utterly reliable and can last a very long time in storage.)

Bob

oh shit

I just found out my last backups were in August

...shouldn't this thing have, I dunno, notified me?

bwDraco

I think I took a full system image about two weeks ago...

Bob

what, did it just cancel my whole backup schedule forever? O_O

bwDraco

(using legacy Windows 7 Backup and Restore for system images, File History for file backups; the two are on separate drives)

I've looked into Backblaze, but I need the ability to restore from bare metal while being able to run backups online (as opposed to having to reboot the machine to boot from a special disc and leaving it unavailable for several hours).

The only readily-available solution I could find is Windows Backup and Restore (and yes, I have successfully restored from system images).

I would really not want to have to resort to third-party tools to image the machine, nor do I want to have to use the wbadmin tool to do it through the command line.

Hennes

1:12 PM

ugh, my backups from from July. I really need to fix that.

djsmiley2k

@bwDraco layered approaach

bare metal image backup (just the os image)

then backblaze for all the files

bwDraco

My concern is that Windows Backup and Restore is deprecated and therefore could be removed by some future update.

I hope the system image functionality is here to stay...

djsmiley2k

wtf, win7 had the ability to remember the logged on user, through reboots?

or has this machine not actually rebooted :/

Hennes

uhm, I think it has that abilty. Not sure if it has that out of the box.

djsmiley2k

1:35 PM

yeah, seems it did reboot, weird

Wasn't expecting that.

Journeyman Geek

@bwDraco I run veem for bare metal backups

third party tool, but free and decent

allquixotic

@Bob niiiice

Elie

Does it happen that computer policies are applied from DC1 and user policies are applied from DC2 ?

Bob

@allquixotic it all seems to work, but since you're going ahead with gstreamer I'll just leave it as-is (can't be bothered with setting up the Google account :P)

eh, it proved unmanagedexports, and it'll be sitting here in the unlikely event you want to do something with it

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