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12:02 AM
We have some of the worst consumer protections in the world among industrialized nations.
In addition to the whole EMV debacle, we have much weaker requirements for warranties (no minimums for most products, whereas Europe has a 2-year statutory requirement for electronics).
We have little in the way of digital privacy protections while Europe has far more stringent requirements (mandatory cookie notices, etc.).
 
@bwDraco That is countered by the US having the concept of Class Actions (which exist in the UK but are very rare) ...
 
While California leads the way in consumer protection here in the US with New York closely following, federal-level protections are very poor compared to EU laws.
 
@bwDraco Probably. My provides sometimes is iffy.
Oh, my dell 1510 mine PCI card apparently supports the 5GHz band
I never noticed because I only just got my second 5GHz band device
 
12:26 AM
@Hennes If its older, A and AC are compatible
and abg was common pre N
 
it is older. Dell E6500 laptop from feb 2009
playing with inssiddr atm
the laptop is rather dated, but it still works and is only used about 5 times per month
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek bg was common, abgn was common. I don't think plain abg was that common... a sucked
 
52 networks detected... 3 mine
only one of them on 5GHz
 
@Bob Oddly, my R60 is ABG. My r61 is BG only ._.
and I have a bunch of bgn/2.4ghz only devices
 
Yeah, seems to be A only.
Temped to get an AC card
Max rate 450
Should be up to 1705mbps for ac
(And yes, I know I will not get that in practice)
 
12:44 AM
I'd love to do that for my thinkpad x220, but I don't really want to installc cracked firmware to remove the whitelist
 
Aye, whitelisting in firmware is awful
I could use the USB2 ports
 
Yeah, dongles are an option
 
No speed gain there though. Maybe some long range stability gains, but ...
Oh fun. I remember playing with this instable setups for hours.
 
1:03 AM
!!/help listen
 
@bwDraco listen: Forwards the message to my ears (as if called without the /)
 
1:35 AM
@JourneymanGeek: I just got a tpad yoga 460
touch screen and everything
 
Ah. I don't really do convertables
Looks nice tho
 
!!/bearhello
 
2:19 AM
ok so...
we just had our work night out
and it was fucking mental
i barely survived!
 
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Q: Would a USB drive or SD card survive in a properly sealed time capsule?

SputnicKI want to bury a time capsule that will be set to open in 50-100 years. This being 2016, I would like for it to contain digital data inside of it. So my question is, would a USB survive? How about a SD card? I am creating it on a low-budget so I'd preferably like to use a storage medium that is a...

I don't think a flash drive will retain data for that long, especially given that the TLC NAND in newer flash drives tends to be rather unstable over time. I'd use archival-grade optical media (e.g. DVD, BD) instead; even if the equipment isn't readable with the hardware in common use then, it would not be too difficult for a dedicated lab to read the data off the disc. Please see superuser.com/questions/374609/…bwDraco 4 mins ago
For something like this, optical media is your best bet.
 
Bob
3:05 AM
...until the dye degrades
 
3:22 AM
Pretty sure there's a dupe
 
totally not a scam; it's a real technology backed by big companies
 
Hard disk can survive..Anything which stores charge can't be reliable enough to hold data for that long
 
3:38 AM
I've seen actual M-DISC media at the local Best Buy. No kidding.
Several companies manufacture the discs under license, Verbatim being one.
Hard disks are probably good for 10-20 years unpowered if stored properly.
That's... not enough.
SSD, that depends, but quality MLC NAND is probably good for 3-5 years unpowered, often longer. TLC NAND, I'd say 2-4 years. Drives that have seen more extensive use are less stable.
Optical media and SSDs do benefit noticeably from storage in a cool, climate-controlled environment. Not sure about hard drives.
TLC NAND in cheap flash drives is probably only good for about two years unpowered.
Regardless, if you need to store something untouched for decades, your best bet (at least with equipment readily accessible to consumers) is archival-grade optical media, burned at a slow speed (ideally, no more than 4X for DVD or 2X for BD) with a high-quality optical drive.
 
3:57 AM
You'd need a reader tho
considering you have trouble reading media that's 30-40 years old
 
> even if the equipment isn't readable with the hardware in common use then, it would not be too difficult for a dedicated lab to read the data off the disc
The chances are better with optical media.
...unlike NAND, whose content is most likely scrambled and difficult to read even in a properly-equipped lab.
Hard drives, better, but it's still not trivial for a lab to read data.
Optical discs, it's a series of pits in an otherwise flat surface. That's not too hard to do.
 
May 11 '15 at 16:37, by allquixotic
 
4:03 AM
Last time I researched that, I got entirely contraditory answers
 
That's why AnandTech and Tom's Hardware are the first places I check.
 
lol
I'm talking actual papers written by researchers
 
> In a worst case scenario where the active temperature is only 25-30°C and power off is 55°C, the data retention can be as short as one week, which is what many sites have touted with their "data loss in matter of days" claims. Yes, it can technically happen, but not in typical client environment.
SSDs retain data best if you write to them at high temperatures and store them unpowered at low temperatures.
 
fridge? ;p
 
18 mins ago, by bwDraco
Optical media and SSDs do benefit noticeably from storage in a cool, climate-controlled environment. Not sure about hard drives.
It takes utterly unrealistic conditions to cause an SSD to lose data in a matter of days.
> In reality power off temperature of 55°C is not realistic at all for a client user because the drive will most likely be stored somewhere in the house (closet, basement, garage etc.) in room temperature, which tends to be below 30°C. Active temperature, on the other hand, is usually at least 40°C because the drive and other components in the system generate heat that puts the temperature over room temperature.
Typical storage temperature in a home environment is more like 15-25 °C.
Typical operating temperature in a consumer environment is 35-50 °C (and often higher with PCIe SSDs or very thin/compact systems).
The punch line?
> If you buy a drive today and stash it away, the drive itself will become totally obsolete quicker than it will lose its data.
"SSDs can lose data in days when left unpowered" is just a sensationalized headline.
(temperatures in °C, times in weeks)
 
4:20 AM
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A: How do I export all images from Excel and give a name from a related cell

asifhi dear 'Kyle' you code is working well but please solve another issue i.e.: This code does not saves images taken from web-url using vba. It although inserts from web url but not saves into folder just like image-urls placed in the current system. please help.

^^ Troll
 
Flagged. Question protected.
 
/me high five
/highfive
 
whaever
 
Nuked!
Also. not a troll, just HVing ;p
 
4:21 AM
Hving?
 
@JourneymanGeek: Look at the comments.
 
Help Vamping
;p
@bwDraco Never attribute to malice what you can attribute to stupidity mild cluelessness?
 
No; the comments were trollish
 
This looks a heck of a lot like trolling.
 
Trollhunter
 
4:23 AM
It's hard to assume good faith here. However, the post does not warrant a spam or offensive flag, nor was it deleted as such. The ultimate reason for deletion is the fact that it doesn't answer the question.
Nonetheless, this kinda straddles the line between a desperate user looking for help ASAP and intentional trolling.
The three "please attention" comments were all posted within a 61-second timespan.
Clearly, my lack of soft skills here are still hurting me.
Don't worry, I've been trying to fast-track developing these skills and have seen some success already.
 
And the best way to deal with people who want attention is to not give it to them
 
Oct 21 '15 at 12:06, by DavidPostill
@DragonLord Take regular breaks. Learn to meditate and do so during those breaks.
 
I have to decide if I want to upgrade my OpenWRT to LEDE or not hmmm.
 
@JourneymanGeek lede-project.org
Recent experiments in meditation have proven fruitful so far, but there's still work to be done.
 
4:36 AM
OpenWRT fork which apparently is merging back
Because neither project release anything since the fork happened
 
So, your thoughts on this?
 
On people being unable to lip sing at the Christmas party?
They were pretty bad
 
...on meditation in an effort to resolve ongoing behavioral and self-control issues.
 
I took up boxing
 
4:41 AM
brb
...okay.
My experience shows that meditating on my breath for just a few minutes calms me down on the spot and refreshes my mind.
I think I just need to do it more often. In many cases, just 60 seconds can make a decisive difference.
I hope to practice this to the point where I can truly clear my mind given ten or so minutes' time.
Mar 13 at 6:41, by bwDraco
...and we have a chicken-and-egg problem. Without patience, you can't take the time to cool down, but without taking the time to cool down, you can't build self-control, which is a prerequisite to patience.
Hindsight is 20/20, but it's now clear that there's no excuse for not cooling down. It only takes a few minutes.
 
5:18 AM
@Ramhound lip sync?
Lip singing sounds like something nomads on the fjords of siberia would do...
 
lip singing = you say the words (with your mouth) without actually saying them. did I say lip sync?
 
I am confused myself hence the reason I asked :-)
 
I thought that's lipsyncing
 
it is
apparently
"Lip Sync is moving your lips to the music, and Lip singing is singing really low so that you can be hardly heard, letting the recorded track overpower your voice " according to some random dude
grown dude lip syncing "I am a single lady" is just plain funny
 
5:24 AM
I totally don't judge. His singleness or his ladydom.
 
T-Shirt when he leaves that says "I am not a single lady..." and on the back an image of him dancing at the party with the caption "but this guy totally is...." to much?
 
5:39 AM
Maybe he is!
Unrelatedly, its amusing when you see a question, click on it to answer... and there's one selected answer...
and its yours
Baaaaats
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1 hour later…
6:53 AM
...so, took another look at the impressive MyDigitalSSD BPX I talked about earlier.
Nov 1 at 21:47, by bwDraco
Gave the endurance numbers another thought on the MyDigitalSSD BPX, at 1,400 TBW on the 480 GB drive (http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/mydigitalssd-bpx-nvme-ssd,4780-4.html). That's 1.6 DWPD over five years, just short of a full 3,000 P/E cycles on the NAND, which is insane. The drive manufacturer MyDigitalDiscount clearly has a lot of confidence in the drive...
It is evident that the Phison PS5007-E7 controller is compressing data as it is written to the NAND, SandForce-style.
The claimed 1.3 GB/s write performance is with incompressible data. Faster performance will be attained with compressible data.
(credit eTeknix)
This is why MyDigitalSSD is able to warrant the drive to such a high level of endurance. The controller is compressing data before it hits the NAND.
 
7:11 AM
hm
You guys are flagging spam faster than I can nuke the users ;)
oh, I just missed that one.
 
7:40 AM
#eTeknix #MyDigitalSSD BPX review: Is #Phison pulling the same compression tricks #SandForce pulled five years ago? http://www.eteknix.com/mydigitalssd-bpx-480gb-nvme-m-2-solid-state-drive-review/5/
 
Bob
7:54 AM
@allquixotic I'll believe it when I see it has actually lasted that long in real-world conditions...
Really, your best bet for hundred-year storage might be printing on paper.
Or, failing that, etching on aluminium and then anodising it.
 
8:12 AM
Or just put it in bob's head.
That seems to be pretty good at long term data retention
 
Bob
@Annaduh My memory is very selective :P
I forget ... everything ... except some rather specific things.
 
8:30 AM
@Bob hmm qr codes on metal plates? :P
 
8:54 AM
@Bob but the ones you do remember stay around for decades
Plus it has proven self recall capability that doesn't need a special drive/reader/decoder
 
9:54 AM
@DavidPostill ping>nul 1.1 -n 1 -w 250 does 0.25 seconds!
 
10:07 AM
Okay, is simply 1 in a batch file a quine?
 
@Rahul2001 <shrug>
 
10:47 AM
! ! Wat
!! Wat
 
11:12 AM
!!what
 
It depends how accurate you need the data to be
the bibles survived ~2000 years ? :D
 
11:58 AM
I'm pretty sure its altered a lot in that time
 
Lol
At all the whiny indignant armchair warriors on Arstechnica today...
 
"People still using a Note 7 are a public menace because they are posing a risk to everyone around them and to society"

... Meanwhile, hair straighteners, electric heaters, gas cookers, and automobiles continue to catch fire at a far higher rate than Note 7's ever will... why's nobody complaining we should ban people from using them too!
 
BAN ALL THE THINGS!
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"Fuck Samsung having a remote kill switch on my phone, it's *MY* phone I should get the choice to do whatever I want with it! FUCK THE SYSTEM! How dare they send an OTA update to disable my phone without my consent"

... Meanwhile, all OTA updates require user approval, if they have a method for installing an OTA without the user's consent, I haven't seen it. Also, Samsung actually refuses to allow you to OTA update even if you wanted on rooted phones, so....
 
12:10 PM
@Annaduh from samsung's perspective its liability mitigation
 
@JourneymanGeek Yeah, stupid people will find a way to sue over anything even when it's entirely their own fault
But still, there are plenty of ways around it, and all my phones are rooted so Samsung doesn't think me worthy of OTA updates anyway
 
yup
I mean at this point, if you have a samsung note 7 and it catches fire...
 
Heck, unless it wipes the bootloader there's always reflashing your phone via a cable.
 
its your own damned fault
 
@JourneymanGeek Still, what's the rate of fires on the Note 7 though? Last known report was a confirmed rate of less than 0.01%
 
12:12 PM
@Annaduh People panic
 
@JourneymanGeek I know
 
To the point where the recharge stations in my local hypermarket ... ban em
 
One of the hostels around here has banned hairdryers and other electric items in rooms because FIREEEEEEE
 
Adults can't be trusted with an electrical socket! Must remove all electrical sockets!
 
12:13 PM
My room's probably a fire hazard
;p
I need to redo my power cabling at some point tho
 
Meanwhile other (read: all the new ones) hostels are putting electrical sockets in every bed
Heck usually more than one electrical socket and multiple USB sockets for each and every bed
 
Well, the older ones might have shoddy wiring.
Granted I do not see the brits fucking that up
 
@JourneymanGeek It's mostly fear of people plugging in hairdryers
 
They did design the One True Socket.
@Annaduh while showering?
 
Which I don't use
 
12:14 PM
In bed?
@Annaduh being a cat and all, you just lick yourself clean?
 
(I've converted all my electricals into europlugs, mostly flat type but a couple Shuko's still)
 
0_0
WHY?
WHYYYY?
THE QUEEN WOULD NOT APPROVE!
 
Much smaller and more convenient plugs. Easier to pack. Take less space. Can travel just about anywhere in the world outside the Americas and don't need an adapter.
 
hm. Point.
We probably have a few. And indian, pre 1940s UK style plug
 
UK plugs => Adapters literally everywhere you go (maybe except Singapore and Hong Kong)
 
12:15 PM
and I have some chinese style ones
@Annaduh I think the malaysians use the one true plug too
 
Europlugs => Adapters required in UK, and nowhere else, at least in Europe
 
Yeah
The french use their own sort right?
 
I have a allocacoc cube thingy which is pretty cool
 
with the ground sticking out of the socket?
 
Yeah, but pretty much all Europlugs support both
 
12:17 PM
Yeah, if you're willing to give up ground
 
Has the hole for the french earth and the tab at the side for the most-other-places earth
 
ah
I THINK we had something with that
 
All my adapters also support both, it's trivially easy to do in the form factor
 
once
not counting those place that give you 3 different styles of kettlecord
 
Oh yeah, my Allocacoc powercube takes a normal kettle plug input too, so anywhere you can get a PC power lead, you can use it
TBH one compelling thing was the Europlug sockets in the powercube are recessed inside the cube, so plugs barely protrude
And you can fit a euro => UK adapter inside the recess and it basically sits flush with the surface, being no bigger than the regular UK powercube, except you have the flexibility of removing the adapter
 
12:20 PM
ah
(I doubt anyone non british would call them one, or know why we call them that. Also they arn't actually kettle cords. As someone once lectured me ._.)
 
Kettles used to use the same type of plug?
I remember before most of our kettles became hardwired it was the same/similar plug they used
 
Oh they use something very similar
 
Trying to find a picture to show you but it looks like I lost it when I accidentally wiped my phone.
 
a kettle plug could power a PC but not vice versa
 
Very common on personal computers and peripherals. Commonly but incorrectly referred to as a "kettle cord", but kettles actually require the C15/C16.
 
12:26 PM
Dangit
I'll have to draw it in mspaint
 
IEC 60320 Appliance couplers for household and similar general purposes is a set of standards from the International Electrotechnical Commission (IEC) specifying non-locking appliance and interconnection couplers for connecting power supply cords to electrical appliances up to 250 volts. Appliance couplers enable the use of standard inlets and country-specific cord sets which allow manufacturers to produce the same appliance for many markets, where only the cord set has to be changed for a particular market. Interconnection couplers allow a power supply from a piece of equipment or an appliance...
 
IEC 60320 Appliance couplers for household and similar general purposes is a set of standards from the International Electrotechnical Commission (IEC) specifying non-locking appliance and interconnection couplers for connecting power supply cords to electrical appliances up to 250 volts. Appliance couplers enable the use of standard inlets and country-specific cord sets which allow manufacturers to produce the same appliance for many markets, where only the cord set has to be changed for a particular market. Interconnection couplers allow a power supply from a piece of equipment or an appliance...
 
Mine's more precise ;p
@DavidPostill was it you? ;p
 
Was it me what?
 
12:27 PM
Who corrected me for calling it a kettle cord ;p
 
Ah. No I don't think so.
@JourneymanGeek It was @allquixotic
Dec 11 '13 at 15:38, by allquixotic
are you sure you aren't confusing it with the C15/C16, @JourneymanGeek ?
 
Size difference between a UK multiplug and a flat euro one, banana for scale
 
It's really hard to convey in mspaint, vs. the actual IRL picture (which I don't have anymore) :-(
Ah, C15 plug
Got the little notch at the bottom that computer plugs usually don't have
My powercube does this:
 
12:33 PM
So you get the white adapters with it, to plug directly into a wall socket or you can use a kettle plug OR PC plug :-P
Bit like the ol' Macbook chargers
The one with UK plugs has all the plugs flush, so yeah, you can use the euro version with euro => UK adapters recessed inside the plug, and not lose any space while gaining a lot of flexibility
 
I prefer flat pins
 
....
flat pins are the worst design
They're cheap, sure
 
I just uploaded a screenshot of my imgur to my imgur
Because my imgur images are telling...
 
@JourneymanGeek they still look better than round pins
 
12:35 PM
"Look better"
 
as opposed to nice big brass ones?
 
I say round pins look better, but I can see the aesthetic appeal of flat pins
 
Mine keep dropping off.
My phone and amp use em
and its terrible
 
does shape of pin matter anything?
 
12:38 PM
British plugs are basically overengineered.
and better.
Other than being huge, and being likely to hurt you if you step on one.
 
And bigger
And more likely to be stepped on
 
well that's a valid point
 
But you shouldn't leave plugs lying around
 
Although you can step on Schuko Euro plugs, the straight ones make less pain than the right angled ones (and with Schuko you get a choice). Also overall smaller, makes them statistically less likely to be targeted
 
europlugs are unlikely to be stepped on
but lack earth
 
12:39 PM
Most european plugs don't have fuses either, but have been fully moulded for a long time
UK plugs have only fairly recently become moulded as standard because apparently it's safer than a (dis)assemblable plug?
 
that's another nice thing about UK plugs ._.
 
That it's moulded or hasn't been moulded for long?
 
You can go buy a plain plug and rewire inferior plugs the rare broken plug
 
I don't mind shape of pins..chargers should be made to charge phones very fast
 
Basically for me it comes down to this: If you don't need earth, UK plugs are unnecessarily big and over-engineered (and obnoxious to pack because of right angle sticky out bits) compared to plain Europlugs
The fact that you can fit a europlug neatly inside a typical UK plug illustrates this nicely:
(And there's space for a fuse in there too!)
 
12:46 PM
I'm tired of my charger..its USB keeps getting broken after few moths
 
Mine never has...
 
which is the fastest charger in the world?
 
The one on the concorde
 
Although the first result there is actually for the world's fastest charging charger which is't the fastest at charging but fast at being charged by the fastest charger which charges the charger not the charger itself which does the charging of non-chargers
So is the world's fastest charger is actually a charger that charges a charger that charges non-chargers or is it the charger being charged by the charger that charges the charger?
Which came first, the fastest charging charger, or the charger that charges it?
o_0
That's some serious chicken and egg shit right there
 
I charge you with trying to sow confusion. :)
 
12:54 PM
Met a cute German girl yesterday who was into board games, role play, and martial arts. She was also good at sowing confusing in that Code names game.
And that other game I forgot the name of.
 
One for @DavidPostill Veroordeelde crimineel wil premier van Nederland worden
(teletext 111)
 
Where you're supposed to sow confusion
Except I just managed to confuse myself
14 days till Christmas...
 
14 days until the end of xmas music in stores
 
Will it be?
 
Hopefully.
 
12:57 PM
Or will they just... let it be
 
Except in Texas. There you can just shoot a place up if you have a bad day or do not like the music
 
Wait never mind, it's let it go not let it be
See, managed to confuse myself again
@Hennes "can" lol
 
@Hennes lol
Moah spam flags please superuser.com/a/1155099/337631
 
1:17 PM
I wonder why Android can automatically cycle through multiple wallpapers for the lock screen but can't do the same for the home screent
 
one user, two spams
 
1:28 PM
@DavidPostill nuked the user ;p
 
Happy birthday @allquixotic!
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Bob
1:53 PM
Happy birthday @allquixotic!
 
Happy birthday @allquixotic!
 
Happy birthday @allquixotic!
 
Happy birthday @allquixotic!
 
Is this automatic "Happy Birthday-Wishing" script you are all using?
Am I risking it with this cable exposed?
 
2:04 PM
5DC... Nah it's just a scratch.
Output is what matters.
 
Bob
@Boris_yo ...you broke it.
 
It's my Nexus 4 charging cable...
 
@Bob Will you replace it? I have warranty. Not...
 
@Boris_yo there's utterly no point in asking for opinions here if you're not going to listen to them
 
2:06 PM
@JourneymanGeek I said I won't?
 
Bob
s/said/showed/
 
Will it do something to smartphone though?
 
@Boris_yo it could
You shouldn't use damaged cables.
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As we told you.
 
Will replace it with Anker.
At least there is no need to worry about MFI compliance.
 
"In 2008, electrical fires, electrical failures or malfunctions resulted in an average of 53,600 home fires. These fires caused more than 500 deaths, injured 1,400 people, and accounted for $1.4 billion in property damage. [Similarly,] the Bureau of Labor Statistics of the U.S. Department of Labor reported that in 2007, private sector workers suffered 1,100 electrical burn injuries and 1,480 electrical shock injuries."
@Boris_yo ^^^
 
2:12 PM
@DavidPostill How can cable shock you with 5V output?
Will find out. Don't worry bro. I got it.
 
2:40 PM
OMG poor cat I wanna hug him not laugh ó_ò
Looks quite traumatized by something
 
2:56 PM
Troll?
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Q: My home network was hacked and the hackers still have control after 4 weeks, I need assistance

user673593I am not new to this either. The hack was, I believe, a brute force attack on my CenturyLink modem/router. I imeadiately pulled the plug on the modem, but they have control of my computer whether it is attached to the New network with a modem only modem (DM200), the WAN separate from the LAN and ...

I'm sure I've seen something very similar but I can't find it ...
 
Bob
@DavidPostill Poe's Law
I'm sure there exists at least one person paranoid enough :P
but yea it does look mighty sus
 
The "logins" he's mentioning are probably just the normal Logon events in the Security log; the LSA generates a boatload of them all the time
I'm pretty sure there's one for each token that's created; it's perfectly normal for there to be plenty for SYSTEM and the like
 
There was definitely someone who complained about being bombarded by radio waves.
 
Bob
@BenN most of it has a perfectly rational explanation, but paranoia...
 
And yeah, the X: drive is always there in WinPE; I think it's the RAM drive of boot.wim?
 
Bob
3:03 PM
yup
 
Me VTC too broad
 
3:42 PM
I'm 31 :(
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@Bob That's the problem, though: in the year 3016, won't someone have better archival tech and claim it lasts for "millions" of years, so why would anyone use something so pedestrian as a 2000s-era system that "only" stores 100 GB when they can store their stuff for millions of years?
@ThatBrazilianGuy Thank you, everyone.
 
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