PPCG Blog

Downgoat

01:05

PPCG Blog!

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

:O

Downgoat

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ ... why did you make username in small caps

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

because WHY NOT!

Downgoat

background and more styling and all can be chagedo n blog too

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

and because you can change it later and seriously why not

@Downgoat can you add writers?

or is that a user?

Downgoat

01:06

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ added you as editor

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

... ninja'ed

Downgoat

(i.e. full perms)

styling is here: medium.com/code-golf/edit

Conor O'Brien

so are stories <=> blog posts

Downgoat

yeah

I can make a "Welcome to blog" post if its good idea

Conor O'Brien

cool

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

01:08

medium.com/code-golf/…

@Downgoat done

Downgoat

also, idk if I should set the style of the blog to the PPCG user design script styling

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

didn't read that message, sorry

@Downgoat yes, but tone it down a bit

less goat

Downgoat

;_;

btw, what should funny tagline be?

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ pls add picture and all, e.g. info to TNB to get added as author example

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

kk

added picture

Downgoat

:D

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

01:09

from the design script, it's that bracket and laurel

Conor O'Brien

@Downgoat "Birds of a feather golf together"

Downgoat

;_; what about goats

Conor O'Brien

none of us are birds so I don't think it matters. (unless if alex comes)

Downgoat

what about blog description?

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ i meant for welcome post :P

PhiNotPi

@Downgoat replied

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

01:11

@Downgoat oh lol

Conor O'Brien

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ you just copy-pasted the story?

from worldbuilding

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

no?

working on it though

copy-pasted + editing

you can see it? o_O

Conor O'Brien

yes

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

@Downgoat go make chat room

Conor O'Brien

because you overwrote my story >_<

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

01:12

@ConorO'Brien no i didn't

Conor O'Brien

"Your post was edited by riker.<bach+wler or something>, please reload"

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

what

how

Conor O'Brien

idk

Downgoat

Name request: funny/cool name for blog

idea: "PPCGBloggoat"

@ASCII-only @PhiNotPi added you

PhiNotPi

thanks

Conor O'Brien

01:15

@Downgoat noooo

ASCII-only

Yay

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

@Downgoat no.

@Downgoat @ConorO'Brien @PhiNotPi @ASCII-only medium.com/code-golf/744facf9ec

ASCII-only

> code golfing complex sport

Conor O'Brien

ಠ_ಠ no markdown

ASCII-only

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ edit your username here

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

01:17

I know.

@ASCII-only ?

@ConorO'Brien ?

oh yeah

:(

ASCII-only

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ What does that mean

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

i don't see that

Conor O'Brien

Ctrl+Alt+1 = Header big, +2 = smaller header, +5 = quote, * + space = bullet list, 1 + . + space = numbered list, +B => bold, +I => italic, +K => link

El'endia Starman

← 68 messages moved from The Nineteenth Byte

Conor O'Brien

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ get off my posts >_<

PhiNotPi

01:22

I need to figure out something to write about.

noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC

It shouldn't be just about PPCG. It can be anything of interest to the software engineering culture.

Cool tools, books, podcasts, anything

Conor O'Brien

well, it is the site's blog...

Downgoat

I feel it should be centered around PPCG and PPCG culture but yeah ^^^

Though to expand the scope we should really change our name from "Code Golf"

ASCII-only

@ConorO'Brien Don't forget CJam/Pyth/Jelly

Conor O'Brien

@ASCII-only what about them?

Downgoat

01:26

is this cenetered correctly?

ASCII-only

Looks like it

noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC

@Downgoat remember, visual center != actual center

ASCII-only

@ConorO'Brien Reading your draft atm

noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC

(humans are weird)

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

@ConorO'Brien that's not me -.-

Conor O'Brien

01:26

@ASCII-only oh

ASCII-only

Also not befungeandother, it's fungeoid

Conor O'Brien

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ it isn't?

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

nope

i was afk >_>

Conor O'Brien

@ASCII-only yes, I was typing that

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

any feedback on this?

medium.com/p/744facf9ec

Conor O'Brien

01:27

I'm looking at the esolang article right now

please, have patience >_<

ASCII-only

@ConorO'Brien Oh

noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC

PPCG Blog should be a loose blog about anything developers would be interested, loosely created by PPCG users, open and democratic.

Downgoat

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ yes

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

@ConorO'Brien that's not mine >_>

@noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC answer: no

Conor O'Brien

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ not talking to you >_>

Downgoat

01:27

you should paraphrase not copy-change

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

@Downgoat what's the ffeedback

@Downgoat kk

Conor O'Brien

hey @isaacg

isaacg

Hey

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

@Downgoat better?

refresh if needed

Destructible Watermelon

> whats... ~~office magic~~ an esolang?

Downgoat

01:29

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ +1 very good

(though remove last line maybe)

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

thanks

eh, I like it

Conor O'Brien

I don't like how people can see what I'm typing >_>

@DestructibleWatermelon read the article when it's finished

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

lol

not reading it :p

Destructible Watermelon

@ConorO'Brien you posted an image...

Conor O'Brien

@DestructibleWatermelon ?

Feeds

01:31

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ has added Downgoat to the list of this room's owners.

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ has added Conor O'Brien to the list of this room's owners.

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ has added ASCII-only to the list of this room's owners.

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

@ASCII-only holy shit you have so many rooms

Destructible Watermelon

Can I join soon pls

Feeds

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ has added PhiNotPi to the list of this room's owners.

ASCII-only

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ Yeah I'm lurking in most of them

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

o_o

@DestructibleWatermelon talk to teh goat

Downgoat

01:33

@DestructibleWatermelon send me medium username

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

woah there are posts already tagged with "code golf"

Destructible Watermelon

I'm signing up on medium now ˚_˚

PhiNotPi

The only thing I could probably write a blog article about, is language design or something. AKA Cogol/QFT stuff or something. Maybe I can do something on KOTHs.

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

KOTHs would work

Downgoat

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ pls add pictures ;_;

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

01:36

about what >_>

Conor O'Brien

Jelly
Pyth
05AB1E
MATL
Seriously/Actually
Jolf
Japt
Golfscript
CJam

any other golfing languages I should include?

El'endia Starman

room topic changed to PPCG Blog: Discussion about the PPCG Blog. (no tags)

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

thanks

@Downgoat my avatar maybe?

idk

what should I add >_>

El'endia Starman

........markdown doesn't work in the description? >.<

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

yes

El'endia Starman

01:38

room topic changed to PPCG Blog: Discussion about the PPCG Blog: medium.com/code-golf (no tags)

Downgoat

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ idk, maybe like green text on back background at an angle /s

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

>_>

@El'endiaStarman lol

El'endia Starman

@ConorO'Brien Minkolang? Well, it's not a golfing language per se...

PhiNotPi

@ConorO'Brien link to the meta post on user-created languages

Conor O'Brien

@PhiNotPi nice idea, except not all of those are golfing langs

PhiNotPi

01:40

A lot of them are, it's worth a link.

Conor O'Brien

true

@El'endiaStarman Yeah I'll have a separate section/post about my favorite esolangs ;)

Downgoat

maybe we should of created wordpress blog...

that way we can have mathjax and series

Conor O'Brien

too late now

El'endia Starman

SE did use Wordpress as the platform for site blogs.

PhiNotPi

I think Medium is good.

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

01:42

^

Downgoat

yeah, we can always embed rendered math

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

think I'm signing off for the night, see you all in the morning

Conor O'Brien

bye!

El'endia Starman

Yeah, I'm heading to bed too. G'night all!

Downgoat

pls

Conor O'Brien

01:52

first of my posts

@Downgoat maybe just beta blue until we get a design

Downgoat

okay :/

idk what to do for background photo then

Conor O'Brien

does there have to be one?

Downgoat

no but it looks a lot better that way

more photos = better

;_; their blog is so pretty

Destructible Watermelon

back

El'endia Starman

In many cases, websites that have a huge background photo irk me because I have to scroll to see more content.

Downgoat

01:59

true

but even without, a simple style can still look nice:

El'endia Starman

Aye, I agree.

Downgoat

maybe i could invert the colors on our logo

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

PPCG Blog

6

just in case we need that

even though it's in the description of the room

@El'endiaStarman we both tried to go to bed and both failed :P

Downgoat

PPCG > Sleep

3

El'endia Starman

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ -_-

Well, I had to brush my teeth...

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

02:03

lol

Conor O'Brien

so... did I do good on the article? :P

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

yes!

Conor O'Brien

\o/

Downgoat

@ConorO'Brien +10 very good post!

Conor O'Brien

5#'\o/'

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

02:06

@ConorO'Brien tag code golf not golf

Conor O'Brien

how do I edit

Downgoat

@ConorO'Brien click edit in top right and click arrow next to publish

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

click the little button bottom right of article

click edit

Conor O'Brien

nvm

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

or there

kk

Destructible Watermelon

02:08

@Downgoat Destructible Watermelon

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

night for real

Downgoat

@DestructibleWatermelon added

Conor O'Brien

@Downgoat thanks so much for making this :D

should we make a post on mother meta for this?

Downgoat

mother meta? meaning meta.ppcg or meta.se?

Conor O'Brien

meta.ppcg

Downgoat

02:20

oh >_> I thoguht you meant meta.se and I was like wat

Conor O'Brien

XD

mother probably isn't correct

Downgoat

Yeah, I think we should

Conor O'Brien

do you want the honours?

Downgoat

you can >_> I am not very good at typing :P

Conor O'Brien

okay. what should it consist of?

@Downgoat of course not, you're a typogaot :P

Downgoat

02:32

you mean tpyogaot :P

@ConorO'Brien What the blog is so I guess copy-paste or paraphrase from first/second blogpost. Add a link to blog post, screenshot or two maybe

imo top looks nicer but Idk if I should stick with bottom for now

Conor O'Brien

hmm

I think top actually

Downgoat

oh :|

I'll leave it plain for now but now that I have all the assets for medium i can change it tomorrow when i can get more opinions

if it is officialized (is officialized even a word?) as the ppcg blog then i should probably let it be plain design

Conor O'Brien

kk

Downgoat

ill ask in tnb

PhiNotPi

I'm not going to have time to finish a post tonight.

Downgoat

02:52

@PhiNotPi thats OK, you can save a draft IIRC

PhiNotPi

I saved it as a draft. It's titled "Crowning a King: Intro to KOTHs"

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

03:23

cool!

Downgoat

> Custom Language: Bots must be written in a specific language, which can often serve as a core gameplay mechanic. The controller typically interprets these custom languages.

:O Cheddar could be helpful for KOTHs

with user-defined literals and all

Destructible Watermelon

06:19

halp I don't know how to use this?

Martin Ender

11:30

oh nice, so this is finally a thing :)

PhiNotPi

14:00

are there ways to edit something after it has been published?

@DestructibleWatermelon do you have a medium account?

if not, you can create one. Then someone can add you to the author list.

Downgoat

15:08

@PhiNotPi he has been added already

PhiNotPi

okay

Downgoat

@MartinEnder would you like me to add you to the blog so you can post? :D

Martin Ender

Sure, why not. No guarantees though. ;)

I'll create a medium account later.

PhiNotPi

16:14

in The Nineteenth Byte, 1 min ago, by PhiNotPi

https://medium.com/code-golf/crowning-a-king-intro-to-koths-22b3dc7bd947#.mewud8‌r59 my first blog post, on KOTHs. I'll probably add more details to "tips for winning" eventually. Read it and let me know what you think. There's probably some minor proofreading/editing to do.

Conor O'Brien

17:09

@Downgoat did you add the picture to my article? if so, thanks :D

Downgoat

Yup :D

Conor O'Brien

btw how did you do that?

add the picture

Downgoat

If you go to empty line you'll see a + and if you click on that you can add section breaks, images, etc

PhiNotPi

We need another tab, to include posts that aren't about golf or esolangs.

Conor O'Brien

@Downgoat ah

@PhiNotPi you can make tabs from within your post

that's how I made the esolangs tab

Downgoat

17:23

Actually I made it >_>

Conor O'Brien

oh

well, you could see how I thought that :P

Downgoat

you gotta click PPCG icon in top right corner and click settings then navigation

PhiNotPi

what should I call the tag? / what tag should I use?

Downgoat

If it's for your KOth post I think a koth tab is OK

Conor O'Brien

I don't think there should be a general umbrella for other posts, if they can be classified as something of its own right.

Downgoat

17:26

^

there is always the all posts button

Conor O'Brien

@Downgoat btw do we have blog statistics?

Downgoat

Yeah

under the PPCG drop down

PhiNotPi

made a "King of the Hill" tag and tab.

Conor O'Brien

whoa, 610 views

that's not too shabby for two days

PhiNotPi

do those count staff?

Conor O'Brien

17:30

idk

what is a read ratio? how much of the article that people have read? or how many people have read the entire article compared to views?

PhiNotPi

it's "reads / views" however they measure those

Conor O'Brien

ah, okay

PhiNotPi

18:07

@ConorO'Brien I just saw your "draft"

Conor O'Brien

yes, isn't it beautiful

PhiNotPi

what esolang are you gonna write about?

Conor O'Brien

18:24

still deciding

any ideas? I'm going to do one of the simpler, more common esolangs, liek ><>

I hate how medium auto-sends drafts

El'endia Starman

Me too.

Conor O'Brien

19:14

@Downgoat is it possible to do code blocks

if it isn't, we really need to either move to a different site or hack it in

PhiNotPi

@ConorO'Brien ctrl-alt-6

Conor O'Brien

oh, fantastic

PhiNotPi

they're not inline snippets though, just blocks

Conor O'Brien

darn. I guess that it will be manageable

El'endia Starman

19:30

Does Medium not allow you to use HTML tags? If they do, then <code></code> for inline code and <pre></pre> for code blocks.

Conor O'Brien

no, it does not afaict

El'endia Starman

Wordpress does.

Conor O'Brien

yes. it disturbs me that wordpress would ever outshine a blogging software in any respect >_>

El'endia Starman

Wordpress also has, as far as I know, a better permissions system, so you can allow people to write posts but have just a couple editors who can schedule/post them.

Uhh...Wordpress was built for blogging.

Conor O'Brien

yes, sarcasm. I should stop using it so much on the web :P

El'endia Starman

19:35

It's seeming to me more and more like choosing Medium over Wordpress may have been a hasty decision... :P

Conor O'Brien

yes. I wish I had some input on the choice

El'endia Starman

Well, it is early enough that we could switch if everyone/a significant majority wanted to.

Conor O'Brien

@Downgoat

what do you think?

El'endia Starman

@Do- welp. Ninja'd. :P

Conor O'Brien

while Medium is nice, it perhaps doesn't meet all the requirements and extensibility that we as programmers would require/like.

I do like the WYSIWYG behaviour of medium tho

I haven't used wordpress much--is it also WYSYSWYSDTWE?

El'endia Starman

19:41

.... what?

What You See You See What You See Do Tell Were Essential?

Conor O'Brien

xD I just didn't like spelling out "WYSIWYG" so I keyboard mashed

El'endia Starman

Anyway, Wordpress has both an HTML editor and a WYSIWYG editor. I never use the latter.

Conor O'Brien

ah. usually, the two don't mix well. so only use one. and if I were to use one... well, I'd use HTML too

El'endia Starman

Yeah, the two editing modes don't play nice. At least, when I last tried...

Downgoat

22:09

@El'endiaStarman I did propose Wordpress but people said medium was cool

anh reason though?

(besides markdown)

Destructible Watermelon

yo

Downgoat

@ConorO'Brien yes it is. You can also embed gists

Ghost is also applicable platform

though it's expensive iirc

Use cmd/ctrl+alt+6

El'endia Starman

22:30

@Downgoat: Do you have control over who can publish their posts?

As in, is it possible for people to write up their posts but not be able to publish them?

Downgoat

Yea, editors can publish posts

authors can send posts to editors for approval

El'endia Starman

22:53

Ah, okay, good.

PhiNotPi

23:34

I assume that we can be pretty liberal in handing out authorship permissions (to pretty much anybody who asks).

El'endia Starman

Authorship, yes. Editorship? Nah.

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