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10:17 AM
Quaaaack
 
 
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11:17 AM
@PauloCereda I see nothing happened while I was at the barber's.
 
@egreg ooh I am going to the barber in a couple of minutes too. :)
 
@PauloCereda Great minds think alike. ;-)
 
@egreg <3
 
11:48 AM
@PauloCereda How's Sierra going?
 
@egreg How's Italy going? Germany is getting colder and colder... I'm starting to be as afraid of the Winter as Ned Stark was. :(
 
yo'
12:07 PM
@GuilhermeZ.Santos I'm looking forward to it eagerly.
 
@yo', why would you do that!? What's the problem with the warm and sunny wheater? Where you can eat icecream, go outside without a jacket and don't get sick...
 
yo'
@GuilhermeZ.Santos the problem is 27C at night in my appartment, lack of water in the nature, poor harvest, ticks, dust allergies, sweating. And for getting sick, believe it or not, but I'm always sick at summer, because of air conditioning and ventilation.
Anything above 25C is too hot. Nothing down to -10C is cold.
Yeah and also, getting sunburnt after 20 minutes on direct sun. Unless it's downtown, where you can't get sunburnt thanks to polution.
 
@yo' I have no idea where you are from, but in my hometown (Florianópolis - Brazil) the weather does not go to less than 5C so I'm really not used to it, that's the problem
And for the too hot Problem, I think more than 25C is too harsh of a Statement, but more than 27C is definitely too hot. Though this is purely a matter of taste... :-P
@yo' I have Brown skin so sunburns are not that often for me! :-D
 
yo'
12:31 PM
@GuilhermeZ.Santos if phototype 0 existed, it would be me...
and I'm from Prague, Czechia (so close to Germany actually)
 
12:41 PM
@yo' phototype 0 must be albine! ahaha
 
yo'
@GuilhermeZ.Santos well, my hair is brown, but my skin is paler than a newly painted white wall lol
 
@yo' new type of albine then... ahaha
@yo' I was thinking of going to Prague, but I have Little Money and too much places to go, so maybe I'll have to skip that. :(
 
@GuilhermeZ.Santos As far as I know, Germany is a tad colder than Italy. ;-)
 
@egreg good for you then! I will be stuck with snow on my doorstep :(
 
yo'
12:58 PM
@GuilhermeZ.Santos that's not the one to skip; if you want to get to touch European culture and history, Prague is an ideal spot :) The city is beautiful and you don't need much time to see most of it...
and good hotels for as cheap as 25 EUR if you know where to look
 
@egreg Still downloading. :(
 
1:14 PM
@GuilhermeZ.Santos Where are you located in Germany?
 
1:34 PM
@egreg das Bierhaus!
 
@PauloCereda :)
@PauloCereda Biergarten in the summer
@PauloCereda I think I'll go in the Dolomites for my next tour: the forecasts are good. Good way to start Fall.
 
@egreg ooh that's a nice place!
 
@PauloCereda Look for “passo Giau” on Google images
 
@egreg Wow!
 
@PauloCereda It's above Cortina d'Ampezzo
 
1:51 PM
@egreg One day I will be there. :)
 
2:22 PM
@yo' I'll take this into account, but I have a friend in England which I promised to meet with, and also I must go to Italy, since it's my family's origin, and finally there's Amsterdam _... (sorry for the delay, some work stuff happened)
@egreg In a small City called Ochsenhausen, it's near Stuttgart (more to the South)
 
@GuilhermeZ.Santos Not far from the Bodensee and Munich. Just 544 km from me: it would be a nice trip through Bozen, Innsbruck and Garmisch.
 
@egreg This is awesome! If all goes as planned, I'll be going to Citanova Marche by car, I'll definetily pass through this passo Giau!
@egreg Let me look those up
 
@egreg Bierhaus for everybody!
 
@GuilhermeZ.Santos Well, that would require quite a long detour. After Innsbruck and the Brennerpass, you have to go to Toblach, then Cortina, climb "Passo Giau”, descend to Selva di Cadore, climb “Passo Staulanza”, descend to Belluno and get again on the motorway to Venice, Padova (where I live), Bologna and then southbound to Civitanova Marche.
 
@egreg 20 days trip can cover it? (that's how Long I have - to go and come back)
 
2:42 PM
@GuilhermeZ.Santos Definitely. I guess that finding accommodation in Toblach or nearby should be easy. After Giau, you can also do other beautiful mountains instead of going to Belluno. At Selva di Cadore you can go West to Arabba and climb “Passo Pordoi” to Canazei; the do the whole “Val di Fassa” to Predazzo, then “Passo Rolle” and down to Feltre and Treviso, where you find again the motorway. Val di Fassa is one of the best valleys in the Dolomites.
@GuilhermeZ.Santos Also “Val Pusteria” (from Brixen to Toblach) is magnificent.
 
@egreg Thank you so much, I just copied and pasted this to my friend. He was ansious to get an itenarary even though there are months to the trip... -.-'
 
@GuilhermeZ.Santos At the top of Passo Pordoi there's a cableway to "Sass Pordoi”; if it's a sunny day it's definitely worthy a trip. There's also a monument to Fausto Coppi, one of the greatest cyclists in the world. An alternative route is going past Brixen and enter Val Gardena (Grödnertal), climb “Passo Sella” and arrive at Canazei. Or, if you're bold enough, “Passo Gardena” to Corvara instead of Sella, then "Passo Campolongo” to Arabba and Pordoi.
The four passes Sella, Gardena, Campolongo and Pordoi surround a big mountain called "Sella” because of its saddle shape.
 
@egreg Have you been to all those places?
 
@GuilhermeZ.Santos Yes, of course; they're quite near to where I live. From May to October is the best period, but the roads are usually open also during the winter, barring big snow storms.
@GuilhermeZ.Santos From my house to passo Giau the shortest route is 160 km
 
3:08 PM
@egreg Awesome! This got me really excited! Unfortunately one here has to work and can't travel until February... :(
 
@egreg but have you got any real mountains like these: themountainguide.co.uk/england/oxfordshire the highest is over 260m!
 
@DavidCarlisle LOL
 
@DavidCarlisle ooh
 
@DavidCarlisle Really? Do you feel vertigo when on top of them?
 
@egreg too high to climb, I don't have all the right equipment.
 
3:11 PM
@DavidCarlisle you could use a bike.
 
@PauloCereda actually the highest of them is quite interesting:
 
@DavidCarlisle Like this?
 
@PauloCereda date uncertain but in the range 2-3 thousand years old
 
@PauloCereda Aliens, for sure.
 
3:15 PM
@egreg more like
 
@Canageek It's always @DavidCarlisle 's fault.
 
@DavidCarlisle When the English did that, in Italy they were doing things like this
 
4 mins ago, by egreg
@PauloCereda Aliens, for sure.
 
@DavidCarlisle Our aliens were smarter than yours.
 
@egreg not a trait that has continued to the present day:-)
 
3:24 PM
@DavidCarlisle Were your smarter aliens who decided for Brexit?
 
@egreg For the Brexiteers aliens were definitely part of the decision...
I never believed in aliens until I moved to the U.S. and became one.
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Sharelatex updated its software and can run biber now, making the problem obsolete. Should we close the question, since it is not relevant anymore?
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Q: ShareLaTeX and biblatex

peturI'm writing my thesis with my friend but I'm having serious problems getting biblatex to work with ShareLaTeX, it apparently has support (according to this blog: http://www.clarusft.com/sharelatex/). However, I can't get it to work properly, or at all to be honest. I have included this in the t...

 
@Johannes_B The answer by Marco already explains it.
 
@egreg I know. But look at the latest answer today. It doesn't seem to be very obvious to people trying to find an answer (presumably they did something wrong and suspect a general problem).
 
@Johannes_B Meanwhile I protected it and flagged the nonanswer
 
3:36 PM
@egreg Protecting, didn't remember that one. Thanks.
 
@Johannes_B I can't run biber:(
 
@DavidCarlisle Oooh, really? Are you joking? HEavy breathing
 
@DavidCarlisle I thought you meant on sharelatex. Puh! Sorry biber doesn't work on your machine.
 
3:55 PM
@DavidCarlisle What do you expect when running on a broken OS?
 
4:22 PM
@egreg I expect cygwin to paper over the cracks and make it all work:-) (in email with plk and Ken Brown to see if we can debug:-)
 
4:36 PM
@DavidCarlisle Adding a modern and comfortable penthouse at the top of a crooked house?
 
@David: see how much havoc you bring to the table when trying to make things work in Cygwin?
:D
 
@PauloCereda Well what do you expect, swans are mean. (Unlike ducks and parrots.)
 
@AlanMunn :)
@Alan: Sierra?
 
@PauloCereda Not yet.
 
@AlanMunn I will try tomorrow. :)
 
4:41 PM
@PauloCereda I haven't even looked to see what's supposed to be "new and improved", but I suspect it will just be more stuff to turn my laptop into a phone.
@PauloCereda At least the laptop still has a headphone jack.
 
@AlanMunn Yes. I'd summon the new features as Siri is now being a douche in your computer.
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@AlanMunn ooh
Cortana is way better than Siri.
 
@PauloCereda Since I almost never use Siri this affects me very little.
 
@AlanMunn Occasionally, I fall in love with her everytime I try new accents.
 
@PauloCereda Just as I suspected: the headline of Ars Technica's review is "Apple's desktop operating system once again plays second fiddle to iOS."
 
Last time I checked, French and UK voices are from male recordings. This is surely a practical joke.
 
4:45 PM
@PauloCereda I have my Macs set to use Fiona.
 
@AlanMunn also McLarens. :)
@AlanMunn Shrek 2? :)
 
@PauloCereda Meanwhile also Aquamacs 3.3 has been released.
 
@egreg And vim 8.0!
 
@PauloCereda Aquamacs 3.3 is based on Emacs 25, so it's more than three times better.
 
@egreg Bah math. :D
 
5:02 PM
@egreg Or emacs has had 3 times more bugs to fix. :)
 
@AlanMunn Possible, as vim has just one bug: it exists.
 
hi!
 
@egreg that's so mean.
Sep 19 at 14:30, by Paulo Cereda
@DavidCarlisle: I am reading the Reddit thread about vim 8.0, and it's amusing. The tone of the editors flame war is simply hilarious. One the jewels include Let us have a moment of silence for all those who are still trapped in their first document.. :)
 
@AaronHall Hi!
 
@AaronHall Aloha!
 
5:07 PM
@egreg And they're tried to fix it 8 times unsuccessfully. :)
 
@AlanMunn LOL
 
I used emacs & orgmode to make a (fairly static) site:
in Emacs & Orgmode, Sep 14 at 17:37, by Aaron Hall
https://aaronchall.github.io/
 
@PauloCereda Did you see this?
Homebrew no longer needs to have ownership of /usr/local. If you wish you can
return /usr/local to its default ownership with:
  sudo chown root:wheel /usr/local
 
@egreg Oh my!
 
@PauloCereda Compiling Emacs 25.1 within Homebrew, ATM
 
5:39 PM
anyone else got a newish luatex and confirm
\font\EU2/lmss/m/n/10=file:lmsans10-regular:script=latn;+trep;+tlig;Segmentation fault (core dumped)
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Q: How can I avoid this segmentation fault while dumping my preamble?

JohnWConsider this minimal example exhibiting the bug: \documentclass{minimal} \usepackage{lualatex-math} \usepackage[partial=upright,nabla=upright]{unicode-math} \usepackage{amsmath} \setmathfont{XITS Math} put it in preamble.tex and precompile it using this: $ luatex --ini "&lualatex preamble.te...

 
6:00 PM
@DavidCarlisle \font\EU2/lmss/m/n/10=file:lmsans10-regular:script=latn;+trep;+tlig;Segmentation fault: 11
 
@egreg on the mac I assume? (writing email now)
 
@DavidCarlisle Yes, I can try on a Linux box tomorrow
 
@egreg thanks, if it segfaults on mac and cygwin, it's probably broken in the base sources:-)
 
@DavidCarlisle On the other hand Latin Modern Math is good.
Also STIX Math, but not Asana Math
@DavidCarlisle It seems a font specific problem
 
@egreg thanks, mail sent
 
6:23 PM
Just discovered this tex.stackexchange.com/users?tab=newusers I may be no egreg, but I'm top of the newusers tab... ^.^ lol
 
6:52 PM
:)
I fail to understand the importance of the Homebrew thing.
25.1 is available to compile? When did that come out? I just compiled the github a couple of weeks ago, I think that was 25.0.80something
So if luatex is for emacs, and I want to compile latex with emacs, am I required to install luatex instead of, what, tex live?
dumb questions?
 
@AaronHall It has a couple of tools that are very easy to deploy.
 
@AaronHall luatex and emacs aren't related (other than every document should be written in emacs) (luatex is part of texlive just as pftex or xetex are)
 
@GuilhermeZ.Santos Great!
@GuilhermeZ.Santos I started from 1 point too. ;-)
 
@PauloCereda I know what homebrew is but I don't understand the importance of the quote.
 
7:07 PM
@egreg Now that's hard to believe, but I suppose it's true... :-D
 
@DavidCarlisle ok, good to know, then. I guess. So does that mean when I use emacs for Latex I'm using luatex that I'm getting from TexLive?
 
@AaronHall From Yosemite on, some folders could not be chowned, even with root. One of them was /usr/local.
 
@AaronHall er no if you are using latex from emacs you'll be using latex from texlive, it just picks up the path same as if you typed latex on the commandline. luatex is a extended tex derived from pdftex but using unicode and opentype fonts and including the lua scripting language.
 
oh shoot, I'm confusing luatex with AUCTeX
:(
 
@AaronHall ah but anyway I just found this so:
 
7:11 PM
@AaronHall Both suck. :) /ducks
 
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A: The differences between TeX engines

Joseph WrightTeX engines There are currently five engines (binaries) which can process TeX input, although not all are used to the same extent. Knuth's TeX, as described in The TeXbook. This is of course the definitive TeX, but is only used as the standard engine in modern TeX distributions if you are usin...

 
@PauloCereda Both duck, you wanted to say
 
@AaronHall you can ignore @PauloCereda, he is under the mistaken impression that vim is an editor
 
@egreg <3
@DavidCarlisle :q
 
@PauloCereda C-xC-q
 
7:14 PM
ok, and LaTeX just extends Tex? Is that how it works?
 
@AaronHall no latex is written in tex and so (essentially) the same sources produce latex (if used with tex) pdflatex (if used with pdftex) lualtex (if used with luatex) and xelatex (if used with xetex)
 
@DavidCarlisle M-x please-take-me-out-of-this-insane-editor
 
@AaronHall LaTeX is a bunch of TeX macros
 
@PauloCereda no
 
@DavidCarlisle <3
 
7:17 PM
ok. that makes sense. Hey, did you guys see I built a home-page in orgmode? I'm kinda excited about working on it, but my free-time is taken up with teaching a class on the side...
 
@PauloCereda clearly you are confused, it is esq : q that gets you out of the insane editor
 
@DavidCarlisle In other news, will you attend our user meeting? I might include a slide or two about editors...
 
@PauloCereda probably, remind me when it is
 
@DavidCarlisle 15 Oct I guess.
@DavidCarlisle: Or 13 Dec, I dunno what base @Joseph was using.
^^ beware, nerd joke above
 
@PauloCereda I've only got 15 incompatible pointer messages left (down from around a thousand yesterday:-)
 
7:25 PM
@DavidCarlisle ooh
 
@PauloCereda the power of emacs to add * in random places required by C compilers.
 
@DavidCarlisle :)
 
8:07 PM
The problem with not reading the documentation is you don't know what you don't know and when you try to search for the answer, you have no clue where to start searching...
 
8:27 PM
Mar 26 '12 at 19:37, by David Carlisle
@Canageek moral of the story: never read the documentation, bad things happen
 
8:45 PM
blasphemy!
If you'd read the docs you'd know that.
 
@AaronHall Only if you know exactly what you want to find. :)
“Would you tell me, please, which way I ought to go from here?”
“That depends a good deal on where you want to get to,” said the Cat.
“I don’t much care where–” said Alice.
“Then it doesn’t matter which way you go,” said the Cat.
“–so long as I get SOMEWHERE,” Alice added as an explanation.
“Oh, you’re sure to do that,” said the Cat, “if you only walk long enough.”
(Alice’s Adventures in Wonderland, Chapter 6)
@AaronHall ^^ :)
 
@egreg yay
 
 
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10:52 PM
Do \usepackage[left]{showlabels} instead of \usepackage{showkeys}. The showlabels package is usually more robust than showkeys. David will appreciate. — egreg 20 secs ago
 
@egreg: Sierra still downloading! Grrr.
 
11:17 PM
@PauloCereda Wow! How's the hour counter like?
 
@egreg It's done now. :)
@egreg: you scared App Store, so it finished the download. :) Now let me create the USB installer, just to be safe.
 
@PauloCereda That's like Totò and Peppino in Milan asking a policeman: “Per andare dove dobbiamo andare, dove dobbiamo andare?” The movie is “Totò, Peppino e la malafemmina”. “In order to go where we ought to go, where do we have to go?”
 
@egreg ooh I love it!
 
@PauloCereda Totò is trying to speak French: “Noio vulevon savuar l'indiriss”
 
@egreg LOL
 

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